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02:09 kaeza anybody remembers how to do IRC channel redirects?
02:09 kaeza anybody remembers how to do IRC channel redirects?
02:25 kaeza forgot to disable the failing addon, sorry
02:26 kaeza nevermind, got help on #fn
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03:04 TheInformer Can someone help me set up a server?
03:07 TheInformer i compiled minetest as -DBUILD_SERVER=TRUE
03:08 TheInformer I just need to know how to setup mods and worlds and stuff, also how do i give myself permissions
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03:10 TheInformer also how do I change the location of the minetest.conf and the mods folder as I have two seperate minetest installations and I dont want them to interfere, I am on Ubuntu 16.04 btw
03:11 lumberJuice TheInformer most of what you need to know is already explained @ http://wiki.minetest.net/Installing_Mods
03:12 lumberJuice as far as mods go
03:12 TheInformer I know how to install mods, I just need to know how to change the directory
03:12 TheInformer I already downloaded a bunch of mods
03:14 lumberJuice the article explains where you need to put them and how to enable them in your world.
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03:15 lumberJuice having two versions could be problematic. both will look in the same .minetest folder for minetest.conf
03:16 TheInformer yeah
03:16 TheInformer I know...
03:17 TheInformer But I want a different conf for the server
03:19 TheInformer also am I doing something wrong, isnt ethreal a mapgen?
03:19 TheInformer For some reason I cant find it when i make a new world
03:21 kaeza how are you running minetestserver?
03:21 lumberJuice ethereal is a mod. it will need to be in mod folder and enabled when you configure the world
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03:21 kaeza for a different conf: --config foobar.conf
03:21 TheInformer from terminal
03:22 kaeza :I
03:22 kaeza I mean, show the actual command you run
03:22 TheInformer sudo ./bin/minetestserver
03:22 kaeza you're...running as root?
03:23 TheInformer yep
03:23 kaeza don't do that, please
03:23 TheInformer where would I put that config file in .minetest or the root of minetest server
03:23 TheInformer ok
03:23 kaeza always run minetestserver with its own user, or at least with your user
03:24 TheInformer ok
03:24 TheInformer what about  a seperate mods folder?
03:25 kaeza mods are always in ~/.minetest/mods
03:25 kaeza or worlddir/worldmods
03:25 TheInformer ill do that
03:25 kaeza probably better since you don't need to explicitly enable them (AFAIK)
03:26 kaeza you can also bundle a full subgame in worlddir/game IIRC
03:28 kaeza TheInformer, this may also help: https://gist.github.com/kaeza/8​3bf160f0f853e3f4130daa42caf76ee
03:33 TheInformer Some mods arent working
03:34 TheInformer almost all of them
03:34 TheInformer nvmd
03:34 TheInformer im an idiot
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03:45 TheInformer ok I have another problem
03:46 TheInformer Im getting the error "AsyncErr: Failed to bind socket (port already in use?)"
03:47 lumberJuice sounds like you already have an instance of the server running on that port
03:48 TheInformer nope I checked system monitor and there is nothing else running
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03:50 TheInformer brb im gonna reset my pc
03:50 TheInformer restart*
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03:53 TheInformer back
03:54 TheInformer that worked
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06:08 kaeza <random>a StackOverflow-like Q/A site for modding questions would be nice</random>
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07:43 Baffy[m]1 do nodes in minetest have unique identifiers
07:44 Baffy[m]1 like can you track a specific block all over the place
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08:30 est Baffy[m]1: no
08:31 est if you mine a node at place A and one at place B and they are the same type, they become indistinguishable
08:34 kaeza maybe we can find a solution if you tell what you're trying to do
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08:48 Baffy[m]1 ehhhhh
08:48 Baffy[m]1 i'll figure it out
09:10 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest: FreeType: address font license issues (#5230) eb49009 https://git.io/vD6de (2017-02-14T09:08:17Z)
09:15 sofar http://i.imgur.com/ulO8aTJ.png how about this font XD
09:19 PureTryOut[m] that's not that bad tbh
09:19 PureTryOut[m] it fits the game
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09:24 yusf[m] Pixel fonts makes less sense when the rest of the forspec isnt pixely.
09:28 Persi[m] Somebody should work on a 3d voxel based font spec, it would be a perfect fit for the game
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09:52 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Extraterrestrial Culture Day! 😃 👽
10:03 yusf[m] Persi: Ellaborate, how would it look?
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10:19 Persi[m] yusf: it would look exactly like a bitmap font, it was meant to be a joke
10:20 yusf[m] Persi: Right… I haven't had sufficient amount of coffee yet, it seems. :)
10:24 yusf[m] sofar: Like it, but needs to have less horizontal spacing imo
10:30 yusf[m] Is this a good player shadow implementation? https://github.com/minetest-australopithec​us/minetest-australopithecus-player-shadow​/blob/master/mods/player_shadow/init.lua
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11:05 xunto yusf[m]: looks ok but I'm almost sure there'll be shadow entities lying everywhere after server crash
11:13 yusf[m] xunto: Not that great then. Thanks! Engine support would be preferable…
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11:46 PureTryOut[m] I see param1 could be used for my own data of the block if paramtype is set to "none". is it possible to edit this value later if you have the node's position?
11:47 PureTryOut[m] "node.param1 = 'whatever'" doesn
11:47 PureTryOut[m] *doesn't seem to work
11:47 sfan5 it's an 8 bit integer
11:48 sfan5 you're better off using the metadata in almost all cases
11:49 PureTryOut[m] well I only need to store 0 to 7
11:50 PureTryOut[m] so I have the node object. how do I store it then? is there something like node:set_param1() or whatever?
11:51 sfan5 you read the node, set param1 to your number and set the node
11:51 PureTryOut[m] ooh wait nvm I just need to set the noe at the position
11:51 PureTryOut[m] yeah just figured that out ;)
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11:57 * PureTryOut[m] sent a long message: PureTryOut[m]_2017-02-14_11:57:12.txt - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/down​load/matrix.org/TxOtkNdEHBhfrjsqQYyfNaEq
11:57 sfan5 no obviously not
11:57 sfan5 node is a table that contains name, param1 and param2
11:57 sfan5 that's it
11:58 sfan5 it's seperate from the nodedef which specifies how the node looks
11:58 PureTryOut[m] yeah thought so
11:59 PureTryOut[m] no problem I guess, I'll just register another block for it
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14:38 hanna hola
14:40 zyabin101 alola :)
14:40 hanna hi
14:41 hanna im cant good espoñol
14:41 hanna and im need help onMinetest Server No.521
14:41 ^7heo huehuehue.
14:42 ^7heo (sorry)
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14:42 hanna ?
14:42 ^7heo s/?/br&/
14:43 hanna im need help onMinetest Server No.521 then a poeple grif spawn and make spawn kill
14:44 ^7heo please try again in English or in Google Translate.
14:44 hanna ok
14:45 hanna in minetest.no521 make a people spawn kill ( killing poeple on a spawn) what can im do??
14:46 Benrob0329[m] run away, that's about it
14:46 hanna and what is then he folow me or other people ?
14:47 Benrob0329[m] Unless the server sets up a no pvp area, you just have to run
14:47 Benrob0329[m] And defend yourself
14:47 hanna oh ok
14:47 Benrob0329[m] He'll loose interest eventually
14:47 ^7heo or just stop playing
14:47 ^7heo or make your own server.
14:47 ^7heo so you can kick people who do that.
14:48 hanna and how im make owner setver?
14:48 hanna *servern
14:49 ^7heo I find "setver" easier to read than "servern"
14:49 ^7heo but maybe that's just me.
14:49 ^7heo in all cases, "server" is the easiest to read ;)
14:49 ^7heo and to make your own server, I guess you need a server.
14:49 ^7heo and then download minetest on it, and run it.
14:50 hanna ok thx
14:53 yusf[m] hanna: You can also setup a server on your own machine, look in the server tab in the main menu http://www.linux.org/attac​hments/minetest_02-png.829
14:57 ^7heo yusf[m]: the user left long before you answerd.
14:57 ^7heo answered*
14:57 ^7heo but maybe you don't know that since you're using a crappy client.
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15:09 yusf[m] At least I'm trying to help ;P
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15:20 ^7heo true.
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15:51 rdococ for gods sake
15:51 rdococ when I ctcp someone I can never find where the response is
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17:21 IhrFussel It seems that Opera 43 for Linux broke my server website lol... this is what it looks like in the development console http://i.imgur.com/e5ZqZlsl.png
17:23 IhrFussel That's Jquery code...unmodified Jquery...that is a huge bug it seems cause it works in Firefox, Opera for Android
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17:34 Calinou your web server isn't encoding files right, perhaps
17:34 Calinou what web server is it?
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17:35 IhrFussel Calinou, it's lighttpd with fast-cgi enabled...if it's an encoding problem why doesn't it happen in other browsers?
17:36 Calinou browsers can interpret things differently
17:36 Calinou personally, I stopped caring about lighttpd, I use nginx or Apache
17:36 Calinou maybe try Caddy if you want something lightweight, too
17:36 Calinou https://caddyserver.com/
17:36 Calinou so unfortunately I can't help about this
17:36 Calinou (also, curious, why did you rename the jQuery file?)
17:36 Calinou just call it jquery.js or jquery.min.js :P
17:37 IhrFussel lighttpd isn't the problem...the website worked in Opera 42...I updated 1 hour ago and now it's broken
17:37 Calinou yes, it works fine in Edge 14, just tested
17:39 IhrFussel Calinou, i renamed it cause it's shorter =P also if the encoding was the issue wouldn't the browser also display the index.php source wrong?? It doesn't
17:39 Calinou you can set encoding guidelines per file extension, IIRC
17:41 IhrFussel Well I posted it as a bug in the Opera forums and wait for moderator approval...we'll see what the devs have to say about it I guess
17:42 IhrFussel Opera doesn't even have a public bug tracker (which is stupid IMO)
17:44 Calinou proprietary software is starting to have public bug trackers, but it's slow to happen
17:45 IhrFussel Calinou, Opera uses Chromium as engine though AFAIK
17:45 Calinou sure, it's still proprietary software
17:46 IhrFussel Can you tell me where I need to set the character encoding? In lighttpd.conf?
17:52 Calinou IhrFussel: I don't use lighttpd, so I don't know, however, I found this via searching: http://serverfault.com/questions/303661/ligh​ttpd-sending-wrong-headers-for-utf-8-content
17:52 Calinou http://stackoverflow.com/questions/29349348/sp​ecifying-charset-in-http-header-with-lighttpd too
17:55 Alcyone Hi all ! Does someone manage a Minetest Server with a systemd deamon here ?
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17:57 IhrFussel Calinou, when I add this line mimetype.assign = ( ".js" => "text/javascript; charset=utf-8" ) Lighttpd won't start :/
17:58 Calinou do a "systemctl status lighttpd" or whatever is the equivalent on your init system :)
17:58 Calinou you can see the error message this way
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18:00 IhrFussel It just says code=exited, status=255
18:02 IhrFussel Calinou, sudo service lighttpd status tells more: Duplicate config variable in conditional 0 global: mimetype.assign
18:02 IhrFussel 2017-02-14 18:56:32: (configfile.c.957) source: /etc/lighttpd/lighttpd.conf line: 34
18:03 Calinou IhrFussel: you probably have a file somewhere else, already defining mimetypes
18:06 IhrFussel Well there is a /etc/mime.types file with all the extensions but I don't see charsets anywhere...should I just add it after "application/javascript                          js" ?
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18:27 IhrFussel Calinou, it's not the encoding...I created a 2nd .js file and it loads fine...both files are "ASCII text"
18:30 IhrFussel WHAT...renaming the file helped
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18:48 IhrFussel So it was most likely a browser cache issue...I cleared it and now even jq.js loads
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19:09 Taose Is there any way to move all nodes between x1, y1, z1 and x2, y2, z2 to another set of coordinates?
19:10 garywhite WorldEdit
19:10 Taose Looks like I'll be grabbing that eventually
19:10 Taose Thank you
19:10 garywhite yw
19:10 garywhite !next
19:10 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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19:29 GreenDimond I would like some modding help for anyone who is willing: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.ph​p?f=47&amp;t=4668&amp;p=251515#p251515  (bottom of page)
19:33 Telesight Hello all; how do you make a block explosion proof?
19:35 GreenDimond perhaps look at the stuff here http://wiki.minetest.net/Category:Explosion-proof
19:36 agaran sfan5: I probably fail to understand how you want to not use struct, if I use struct allocated in v3s16_to_key() then it may stop to exist once I return from it.. so I need to make it at caller.. so I am doing, or you want simply to avoid using struct?
19:36 rubenwardy Telesight, on_blast
19:36 rubenwardy I believe
19:36 rubenwardy there's a callback that you'll need to return false in
19:37 GreenDimond hi ruben
19:37 rubenwardy hi
19:37 GreenDimond maybe u can help with my problem?
19:38 Telesight Ok, not on_blast = true or something like that ...
19:38 rubenwardy GreenDimond: wrong syntax
19:38 GreenDimond D: wat?
19:38 GreenDimond how so?
19:38 rubenwardy the only thing you can do in a table is add things to the table
19:39 rubenwardy you can't declare a global function
19:39 GreenDimond well using this    function replace_donemodel(pos, node) minetest.set_node(pos, {name = "waffles:wafflemaker_open_done", param2 = node.param2}) end, on_place = minetest.after(2.0, replace_fullmodel)    doesnt work either
19:39 rubenwardy so, 1) move replace_donemodel to be above or below register_node(name, {})
19:39 GreenDimond ok....
19:39 rubenwardy oh, you've done 2
19:39 GreenDimond I have?
19:39 GreenDimond what was 2?
19:40 rubenwardy 2) was replace function() with function
19:40 GreenDimond oh yes I dunno why that was there :P
19:40 GreenDimond i was prob just trying things
19:41 GreenDimond trying...
19:41 rubenwardy GreenDimond, https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy​/3c6f49995b83a0366f9a6c1cdd86724e
19:41 rubenwardy wait
19:42 GreenDimond I keep getting invalid core.after invocations.
19:42 rubenwardy updated
19:42 rubenwardy updated again
19:43 GreenDimond trying...
19:44 GreenDimond game crashes when placing it.
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19:45 GreenDimond 2017-02-14 11:44:17: WARNING[Server]: Undeclared global variable "replace_fullmodel" accessed at /home/alex/.minetest/mods/waffles/nodes.lua:115 2017-02-14 11:44:17: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: Lua: Runtime error from mod 'waffles' in callback item_OnPlace(): /usr/share/minetest/builtin/game/misc.lua:41: Invalid core.after invocation 2017-02-14 11:44:17: ERROR[Main]: stack traceback: 2017-02-14 11:44:17: ERROR[Main]: [C]: in fu
19:45 GreenDimond also, will this code work if the item is placed using set_node?
19:45 rubenwardy replace minetest.after(2.0, replace_fullmodel, pos, node) with minetest.after(2.0, replace_donemodel, pos, node)
19:46 GreenDimond lol that would make sense :P
19:46 GreenDimond trying...
19:47 GreenDimond thats a new one.
19:47 GreenDimond 2 things happen
19:47 rdococ waffles
19:47 rdococ mm
19:47 GreenDimond I place it and it disapears instantly
19:47 GreenDimond i placed it too fast in a row and my game crashes
19:48 GreenDimond 2017-02-14 11:46:52: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: Runtime error from mod 'waffles' in callback environment_Step(): Invalid position (expected table got userdata). 2017-02-14 11:46:52: ERROR[Main]: stack traceback: 2017-02-14 11:46:52: ERROR[Main]: [C]: in function 'set_node' 2017-02-14 11:46:52: ERROR[Main]: /home/alex/.minetest/mods/waffles/nodes.lua:92: in function 'func' 2017-02-14 11:46:52: ERROR[Main]: /usr/share/minetest
19:48 GreenDimond hi rdococ
19:48 rubenwardy you're using the wrong callback
19:48 rdococ hi
19:48 GreenDimond wrong callback?
19:49 rubenwardy on_place is used to place the node, and isn't a callback ran after placing a node
19:49 rubenwardy you want     after_place_node = function(pos, placer, itemstack, pointed_thing)
19:50 GreenDimond it is currently on_place = function(pos, node) so why the itemstack, placer, and pointed_thing?
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19:51 rubenwardy it's a different callback
19:51 GreenDimond oh duh :P
19:51 rubenwardy and on_place isn't defined as that anyway
19:51 GreenDimond the world is loading. thats a good sign,
19:51 rubenwardy if you needed to use on_place, the correct arguments would be    on_place = function(itemstack, placer, pointed_thing),
19:52 rubenwardy (but you don't want on_place in this case)
19:52 GreenDimond after 2(ish) seconds, game crashes.
19:52 rubenwardy local node = minetest.get_node(pos)     above the minetest.after
19:53 GreenDimond and under the after_place stuff?
19:53 rubenwardy yeah
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19:54 GreenDimond ok, so um...problem.
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19:55 GreenDimond code worked. great :)  but it doesn't work for its intended purpose. i explain:
19:57 GreenDimond I have one model, that when punched with a tool, changes to another model. That model, when punched, changes into this current node we are working with. My goal was for when I punch the one model, it becomes another, waits a few seconds, and changes to another model. So obviously my set_node stuff does not work with after_place or whatever.
19:58 Telesight @Rubenwardy It is on_blast = function() end,     ;-)
19:58 rubenwardy set_node doesn't call after_place
19:58 rubenwardy iirc
19:59 rubenwardy in the on_punch handler of the node, you'll want something like:
20:01 GreenDimond rdococ: just so you know, I am making a waffle mod (useless for the most part, but hey. its waffles). I hope for it to be up by today.
20:02 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy​/9d5aa4cc87a45fd790bd546e62af2094
20:03 GreenDimond where does that go?
20:03 GreenDimond it looks like for one node...
20:04 rubenwardy the node which you punch to go to another node then back to the original
20:04 GreenDimond :/ i dont think you got what I meant
20:05 GreenDimond Node A node B node C. Punch nodeA ----> turns to nodeB. After a few seconds, nodeB turns into nodeC.
20:05 GreenDimond i will post the code in a comment on the link you just posted
20:08 rubenwardy oh
20:08 rubenwardy well, will update
20:09 rubenwardy updated, GreenDimond
20:09 GreenDimond this goes on nodeA...oki...
20:10 GreenDimond so should I comment out the code currently on nodeC?
20:11 GreenDimond oh
20:11 GreenDimond you edited my comment.
20:11 GreenDimond now im confused.
20:13 GreenDimond ok, I got an error.
20:13 GreenDimond (while ingame
20:13 GreenDimond )
20:14 GreenDimond 2017-02-14 12:13:05: ERROR[Server]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "waffles:wafflemaker_closed_full" at (5015,9,5112) (block (313,0,319)) 2017-02-14 12:13:05: ERROR[Main]: Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "waffles:wafflemaker_closed_full" at (5015,9,5112) (block (313,0,319))
20:17 GreenDimond rubenwardy maybe it was cuz i commented out the other code?
20:19 yusf[m] How can I add a trash in survival inventory?
20:19 GreenDimond you dont need to. hold an item you want to trash and type /pulverize
20:21 rubenwardy invalid node name
20:21 rubenwardy you've mistyped the name of the node in set_node
20:21 rubenwardy that's what "Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE" means
20:22 GreenDimond yup. forgot the waffles:
20:23 GreenDimond wooohooo!!!
20:23 GreenDimond Thanks ruben!
20:23 sfan5 agaran: just avoid using struct at all
20:24 yusf[m] GreenDimond: My players won't be able to do that I'm afraid.
20:24 agaran sfan5: that I made already, but looking at those serialize inlines
20:24 rubenwardy yusf[m]: are you using sfinv?
20:24 yusf[m] rubenwardy: Not at the moment, no. Why?
20:25 rubenwardy my answer depends on whether you're using that
20:26 rubenwardy you'll need to create a detached inventory for each player, which deletes and stacks placed into it using callbacks
20:26 rubenwardy and then modify the inventory using set_inventory_formspec
20:27 GreenDimond quick n00b question: uses = 3 doesnt work for a tools I made i think because the tool does an on_use and I want it to only be able to be used 3 times. how do this?
20:27 GreenDimond *tool
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20:34 GreenDimond nevermind that question.
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20:40 kaeza greetings
20:40 garywhite Minetest Census is still active https://goo.gl/forms/SCTWl5c59h5oqU4D2
20:41 GreenDimond i believe mah waffle mod is ready for release :D
20:41 GreenDimond thx ruben for helps.
20:43 rubenwardy welcome
20:44 sfan5 agaran: here'S how it should look http://sprunge.us/hTBC?cpp
20:44 agaran sfan5: I can commit my version already
20:45 agaran sfan5: you used key identifier twice but yes, I got that
20:46 sfan5 hm where did I use it twice?
20:46 agaran 5,6 line
20:46 agaran u8 key, datum key
20:46 sfan5 oops
20:46 agaran :-)
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20:50 yusf[m] rubenwardy: Sorry, I'm not a coder. :/
20:52 sfan5 agaran: why are you allocating a new buffer for 6 bytes
20:52 agaran sfan5: because datum has pointer only not buffer there?
20:53 agaran but maybe I don't understand c++.. (surelly I am not..)
20:53 sfan5 char buffer_on_stack[123];
20:53 sfan5 char *pointer = &buffer_on_stack;
20:53 sfan5 no need to allocate anything
20:53 agaran that I know but you wanted it c++ way.. so I thought thats what you mean..
20:54 sfan5 you should prefer the "new[]" operator over "malloc"
20:54 sfan5 but if it doesn't make sense to allocate a buffer then don't use either
20:54 agaran heh.. I like malloc;)
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21:41 kaeza IRC mod works on 0.4.3 :D
21:42 VanessaE 0.4.3 still works? :)
21:42 kaeza except it does not cleanly shut down because apparently there was no register_on_shutdown yet O.o
21:42 kaeza yes it does. did a sinple script to compile everything from 0.4.3 to 0.4.15
21:46 kaeza everything seems to work fine
21:46 agaran why so testing?
21:46 kaeza the wibbly wobbly hand animation was funny
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21:50 kaeza http://imgur.com/a/69NxR
21:54 kaeza yay had forgot about crahes because recursive nodeupdate
21:57 agaran sfan5: atabase-gdbm.cpp:64:48: error: invalid const_cast from type ‘char*’ to type ‘unsigned char*’
21:58 agaran sfan5: I tried const_cast first..
21:58 sfan5 huh
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