Time  Nick            Message
00:10 MinetestBot     02[git] 04juhdanad -> 03minetest/minetest: Lighting: Update lighting at block loading 13f17c9c4 https://git.io/vDrwT (152017-02-13T00:05:49Z)
00:58 MinetestBot     02[git] 04VanessaE -> 03Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #321 from Jeija/animated_turbine 130cb286b https://git.io/vDrKs (152017-02-13T00:56:29Z)
00:58 MinetestBot     02[git] 04VanessaE -> 03Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: make "on" water turbine animated! 1346cbc76 https://git.io/vDrKG (152017-02-12T18:57:30Z)
03:22 redblade7       hi
03:23 redblade7       i just wanted to know
03:23 redblade7       my server has gotten kinda slow, especially since pizza server came back
03:24 redblade7       i was wondering if any other server admins noticed anything similar
03:25 redblade7       Creative Gardens is kind of like "creative mode pizza server with lots of plants and only killing animals"
03:26 redblade7       s/only killing animals/no damage except when killing animals
03:26 redblade7       s/except towards animals
03:26 redblade7       you cant get killed or kill other players, but you can kill animals
03:26 redblade7       but regardless
03:26 redblade7       is there less activity it seems or has just everyone else moved over to pizza?
03:27 VanessaE        my servers aren't as active as they once were, either
03:28 VanessaE        where everyone's going, I don't know
03:28 VanessaE        (though you can see what's popular in http://servers.minetest.net/ )
03:33 redblade7       cashbox and pizza seem to be at the topof the list
03:33 redblade7       and another one i cant think
03:33 redblade7       sually
03:33 redblade7       but yeah my creative server has become kind of a ghost town
03:34 redblade7       lots of stuff but only one or two people every so often and they probably get bored and leave
03:35 redblade7       it's been online for a year this month (though i've had short-lived servers before)
04:12 Benrob0329[m]   Minetest needs a Tardis Mod
04:13 cheapie         Benrob0329[m]: That would do what?
04:13 Benrob0329[m]   Add a Tardis
04:13 cheapie         Which would do what?
04:14 Benrob0329[m]   Teleport, be bigger on the inside (by teleporting the player to a separate interior), possibly fly if its an entity
04:15 cheapie         Sounds easy enough (aside from the flying), but should probably be saved for someone that's actually watched that movie.
04:16 Benrob0329[m]   Movie? You mean 50+ year old forerunner of Sifi television!
04:16 Benrob0329[m]   (And a movie, but that didn't do so well...)
04:17 cheapie         I mean "whatever it is, I haven't seen it".
04:26 Fritigern       Someone should start watching Doctor Who post haste!
04:26 Benrob0329[m]   Its on Amazon Prime
04:27 Benrob0329[m]   I'd recommended starting with the 2005 series on
04:27 Fritigern       I remember a mod that would add something like phone booths. It should not be too hard to modify that mod
04:27 Fritigern       I  mean, phone bnooth, police box.....
04:27 Benrob0329[m]   Its a, "Fantastic" series :D
04:28 Fritigern       The biggest difference is that the police box is bigger on the inside :-)
04:29 Benrob0329[m]   The basics would be cool, and other stuff can be added later on
04:29 Benrob0329[m]   (You should never be able to mine the Tardis, period)
04:30 Fritigern       It would just fade away and return to the same spot after a random time interval
04:31 Fritigern       It should also be lockable, for private TARDIS'es
04:54 Benrob0329[m]   And be cloak -able (ie turn invisible)
04:54 Benrob0329[m]   You should be able to call it with the sonic screwdriver
04:55 Benrob0329[m]   And if it teleports onto someone, they should teleport into the tardis if they don't move (can we do fading bud textures?
04:55 Benrob0329[m]   *hud textures
07:46 Baffy[m]1       i have a badass tardis on second life
07:46 Baffy[m]1       it does all kinds of shit
07:48 fireglow        I'm using leveldb for world, and the rollback database is in sqlite. How can I use PgSQL for the rollback database?
07:56 Baffy[m]1       i can't figure out worldedit
07:56 Baffy[m]1       i guess i'm slowly getting it
08:03 Baffy[m]1       ERROR[Main]: get_biome_list: failed to get biome 'taiga'
08:04 Baffy[m]1       i'm getting this error, any idea what's up
08:04 Baffy[m]1       a get a few of them
10:05 JamesTait       Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Clean Out Your Computer Day! 😃
10:19 agaran          JamesTait: you mean I have to clean my computer?
10:20 agaran          hmm.. find / -type f -iname "*~" -delete or like?
10:20 JamesTait       That'd do it!
10:24 PureTryOut[m]   `sudo rm -rf /*` would also do that. WARNING: DON'T ACTUALLY RUN THAT
10:25 yusf[m]         Good stuff… https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=16652
10:43 zyabin101       PureTryOut, it will fail to run by default.
10:44 zyabin101       If there was `--no-preserve-root`, *that* will be a *problem*...
10:44 PureTryOut[m]   nope
10:44 PureTryOut[m]   `/*` will run fine, `/` is what would fail
13:42 PureTryOut[m]   have there been talks of being able to edit the mainmenu in a subgame using client side modding yet? would there be any interest for it as well? is it worth posting an issue for?
13:44 PureTryOut[m]   it would be awesome to have an unique look for a specific subgame
14:07 fireglow        Anybody else noticed how the mesecon switches switch back to their previous state when switched? That's rather annoying.
15:12 Benrob0329[m]   (Offtopic) http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/mesa-17-0-0-released
15:19 kaeza           meow
15:19 PureTryOut[m]   is that a hint to a cat mod?
15:20 Jordach         Benrob0329[m], now checks for invalid hex colours http://i.imgur.com/3X1kGFJ.png
15:21 sfan5           fancy color chooser when
15:22 PureTryOut[m]   fix your texturepack Jordach :p
15:22 fireglow        in two minetest weeks
15:22 fireglow        (about 5 years)
15:22 Jordach         PureTryOut[m], it's no texture pack :^)
15:23 PureTryOut[m]   well that's the problem then
15:23 PureTryOut[m]   fix the chest textures
15:23 PureTryOut[m]   is that a character customizer?
15:23 Jordach         yes
15:23 Jordach         with complete HEX controlled colours
15:23 PureTryOut[m]   cool!
15:23 Jordach         there'll be a book containing a list of common colours
15:24 Jordach         the preview button should display the current state onto an entity
15:24 Jordach         haven't got there yet
15:28 PureTryOut[m]   definitely cool though
15:28 PureTryOut[m]   I wonder, if a dependency of a certain mod is in a modpack, will that dependency be fulfilled?
15:30 Jordach         PureTryOut[m], it's legit exclusive to my prototype subgame
15:30 PureTryOut[m]   ooh ok, I understand ;)
15:30 Jordach         currently it stands on that it has more content than minetest_game
15:30 kaeza           <sfan5> fancy color chooser when
15:31 kaeza           would be nice to be able to get the mouse coords when an image is clicked
15:31 Jordach         kaeza, do i smell web1.0 hyperlink maps?
15:31 kaeza           you could make a nicer color chooser or something
15:32 Jordach         kaeza, if that ever happens the current style formspec will just become the advanced tab
15:32 Jordach         for finer control
15:32 Jordach         they'll still save to rgb_table[pname][field.*]
15:33 kaeza           you could hack something around with lots of little small image_button[]s :P
15:33 Jordach         ew
15:33 Jordach         i already have 40+ buttons
15:33 Jordach         fook that
15:33 kaeza           see how mapp mod made the minimaps (okay, not clickable, but still...)
15:34 PureTryOut[m]   > currently it stands on that it has more content than minetest_game
15:34 PureTryOut[m]   Jordach: what are you making then?
15:34 Jordach         PureTryOut[m], it once started as a texturing project
15:34 PureTryOut[m]   it has grown out of hand I would guess
15:35 Jordach         :O
15:35 Jordach         gimme a minute
15:35 kaeza           Jordach, make a TP using the PICO8 palette :D
15:36 Jordach         http://i.imgur.com/YmhhZMb.png
15:37 PureTryOut[m]   I [made a thing as well](https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/1565836/22839893/97a753e2-efcb-11e6-9a23-7488a88fce28.png) ;)
15:37 Jordach         nice meme
15:37 sfan5           8/10 doesn't looks enough like minecraft
15:37 Jordach         i give it a 5/7
15:38 Jordach         >mesh not found
15:38 Jordach         you're worse than me
15:38 PureTryOut[m]   lol I fixed that since
15:38 Jordach         http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/446/460/866.gif
15:38 PureTryOut[m]   and I agree doesn't look enough like Minecraft. if only I could change fonts in formspecs :/
15:38 PureTryOut[m]   well and if only I had access to the fonts using a no copyright license :p
15:39 Jordach         https://68.media.tumblr.com/d2e11ba5bed19f5dc452021c333051d2/tumblr_noknpbUBY61s4cvdqo1_500.gif
15:40 kaeza           PureTryOut[m], https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/tmp/KPixelFont.ttf
15:40 Benrob0329[m]   Google Fonts are often under copyfree licenses
15:40 Benrob0329[m]   there's a Github report of then somewhere ...
15:40 Benrob0329[m]   *repo
15:41 PureTryOut[m]   I know, but it has to look like the Minecraft one lol :p
15:41 PureTryOut[m]   although I guess we could just extract the one Minecraft uses and provide an alternative ourselves
15:41 Benrob0329[m]   Press Start 2 Play?
15:42 ^7heo           Does anyone here knows a good free RTS?
15:42 ^7heo           (for a LAB Party)
15:42 ^7heo           LAN* even
15:43 zyabin101       Jordach, tumblr image is "Access Denied" for me :/
15:43 PureTryOut[m]   Benrob0329: Start 2 Play?
15:43 PureTryOut[m]   zyabin101: it's a meme anyway, you shouldn't care :p
15:44 Benrob0329[m]   PureTryOut: Press Start 2 Play is a Retro style font
15:44 Benrob0329[m]   I use it as my main font on YouTube
15:46 PureTryOut[m]   picture somewhere?
15:47 * Benrob0329[m] uploaded an image: Benrob0329_title.png (0KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/kCHGMKNKmhPpWdZXzsakAZhU
15:48 * Benrob0329[m] posted a file: PressStart2P-Regular.ttf (68KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/uCsJtKNlvWPAemcYtXaCqhIQ
15:48 Benrob0329[m]   Its an apache licensed font
15:48 PureTryOut[m]   ooh nice
15:48 PureTryOut[m]   but is it even possible to change font in formspecs?
15:48 PureTryOut[m]   and text color?
15:49 Benrob0329[m]   i dont think so, but you can change the global font
15:49 Benrob0329[m]   (i do believe color was recently added though)
15:50 PureTryOut[m]   global would be good enough for the font itself. although I do need to change the color in the formspec itself :/
15:50 PureTryOut[m]   there are no docs for changing color yet though
15:52 Benrob0329[m]   take a look at listcolors
15:52 Benrob0329[m]   it looks like you can change everything but font color :-/
15:53 Benrob0329[m]   you can change the color of a textlist though...
15:54 PureTryOut[m]   lol
15:54 Benrob0329[m]   but not the basic label
15:54 PureTryOut[m]   well that's the one I need haha
15:54 PureTryOut[m]   that and font size
15:54 Benrob0329[m]   logic == out the window
15:55 kaeza           ^7heo, Warzone 2100 ?
15:55 PureTryOut[m]   something else: have there been talks of being able to edit the mainmenu in a subgame using client side modding yet? would there be any interest for it as well? is it worth posting an issue for?
15:55 ^7heo           kaeza: thanks :)
15:57 PureTryOut[m]   ^7heo: 0AD?
15:57 kaeza           there's also 0 A.D.
15:57 kaeza           bah
15:58 PureTryOut[m]   ha ;)
15:59 PureTryOut[m]   0AD is awesome, but the pathfinding sucks right now
16:01 ^7heo           :D
16:01 ^7heo           Thanks guys
16:53 Calinou         the story of 0 A.D:
16:53 Calinou         A persian soldier told me to build this.
16:53 Calinou         The other one said, "[SpiderMonkey exception at...]"
16:53 Calinou         end of 0 A.D. story
16:54 PureTryOut[m]   huh, it's quite stable ime
16:54 Benrob0329[m]   was that found along with the Dead Sea Scrolls?
16:54 Benrob0329[m]   or was it another anchient manuscript?
16:55 zyabin101       Calinou, didn't know 0 A.D. used a dumb version of SpiderMonkey XD
16:56 Calinou         :)
16:58 Benrob0329[m]   I love being able to send Ctrl Although L from my phone to my computer
16:58 Benrob0329[m]   *Alt
17:00 Calinou         as long as you don't send Ctrl+Alt+Backspace :p
17:00 Calinou         (that kills X server on old distros)
17:01 Benrob0329[m]   Still does on a lot of them
17:01 rubenwardy      PureTryOut[m], the main menu is completely unrelated to client side modding
17:02 PureTryOut[m]   but it could become related right? ;)
17:02 rubenwardy      nope
17:02 agaran          Calinou: unless you have DontZap set.. :) (that disabled alt-ctrl-backspace Xserver kill)
17:02 Benrob0329[m]   Calinou: although that could be usefully as well
17:02 rubenwardy      they will never become related, as when you're in the main menu you're not connected to the server
17:02 rubenwardy      and the game's not running
17:02 rubenwardy      also, we already have main menu scripting
17:03 PureTryOut[m]   no but you do have a subgame selected
17:03 PureTryOut[m]   so outside of a mod, the subgame could do it no?
17:03 Benrob0329[m]   Its planned
17:04 PureTryOut[m]   it's really? awesome!
17:11 Benrob0329[m]   PureTryOut: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3818
17:12 PureTryOut[m]   ooh awesome!
17:39 zyabin101       What mods do you deem *necessary* for a new subgame?
17:39 zyabin101       In my list there's a block I can put my feet on, water, river water, lava and a creative inventory.
17:44 VanessaE        zyabin101: some people would consider homedecor a necessity ;)
17:45 VanessaE        (and a few of my other mods)
17:45 VanessaE        moreblocks is a de-facto standard too
17:46 Calinou         "de-facto standard"
17:46 Calinou         time to announce the More Blocks Steering Committee
17:46 VanessaE        heh
17:46 Calinou         :)
17:47 zyabin101       De-facto Mod Steering Committee? I'm in favour. :)
17:48 ^7heo           I'm in flavour personally.
17:48 zyabin101       Calinou, how do I map your mod to my blocks?
17:48 Calinou         what do you mean?
17:48 Calinou         you can create aliases if need be
17:50 zyabin101       Not every game has a mod called `default` (PilzAdam's `minimal`), and I might want to use names other than i.e. `default:cobble`, choosing something like `default:cobblestone`.
17:52 agaran          VanessaE: and we will need to have 'standard' blocks hidden under double glass envelope in severes near paris?;)
17:52 VanessaE        heh
17:52 agaran          cast from Pt-Indium alloy?
17:53 agaran          Sorry I really couldn't resist..
17:53 Calinou         zyabin101: I think you'd need to use aliases or search-and-replace, I don't know
17:54 zyabin101       Oh k :/
18:55 kaeza           test
18:55 kaeza           test
18:55 Benrob0329[m]   succsess?
18:56 kaeza           did that appear doubled? O.o
18:57 Benrob0329[m]   yes
18:59 agaran          kaeza: I'd say squared success..
19:03 rdococ          success^2
19:05 Taose           success²?
19:08 rdococ          it's ridiculous how Microsoft needed to add <!--[if]> tags - I mean, cmon, just add support for standard stuff already
19:09 agaran          :)
19:11 rdococ          love how IE needs "special instructions" as one site puts it
19:13 rdococ          internet exploder -_-
19:19 Krock           internet explorer, best joke after microsoft bob
19:25 rdococ          heh
19:25 MinetestBot     02[git] 04VanessaE -> 03Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: fix wrong UV mapping on "on" turbine blades 13dd2b36c https://git.io/vDKEx (152017-02-13T19:24:29Z)
19:26 rdococ          wow, Microsoft is a jackass
19:26 rdococ          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish
19:27 Krock           #define WIN32_LEAN_AND_MEAN
19:27 Krock           that's really a thing
19:27 rdococ          probably
19:34 rdococ          thank god I didn't upgrade to Windows 10 while I had the chance
19:34 Krock           I never had the chance so I must be even luckier with that logic
19:35 rdococ          true
19:35 agaran          :-)
19:36 rdococ          thank god IE is discontinued... I hope edge is slightly less crap
19:36 rdococ          but I don't even have high hopes for that
19:37 rdococ          do you know what IE says? "Portal 2 confirmed!"
19:40 rdococ          http://tinyurl.com/h2acypk should happen
20:13 * PureTryOut[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot_2017-02-13_21-13-29.png (12KB) - https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/LFoDAPzqlbLIPLrFdSmDGYbZ
20:13 PureTryOut[m]   why does that print 0?
20:15 * PureTryOut[m] is making his mods more modular and now that fails without a good reason where it worked before
20:15 PureTryOut[m]   actually, I might know this
20:15 PureTryOut[m]   I think I had this problem before
20:16 PureTryOut[m]   yup nvm I'm being awfully dumb again
20:32 Alcyone         oups still here (f**** wifi)
20:35 Alcyone         Feb 13 21:22:57 raspberrypi systemd[17383]: Failed at step CHDIR spawning /usr/games/minetestserver: No such file or directory
20:35 Alcyone         Feb 13 21:22:57 raspberrypi systemd[1]: minetest.service: control process exited, code=exited status=200
20:35 Alcyone         Feb 13 21:22:57 raspberrypi systemd[1]: Failed to start Minetest Server Latest.
20:35 Alcyone         the issue should be there
20:41 sfan5           Alcyone: it might be a good idea to actually install minetestserver if you want to use it
20:42 Alcyone         sfan5, it is :D
20:42 Alcyone         if I run my command it works
20:42 Alcyone         But I failed trying to create a deamon
20:43 Alcyone         (this command "minetestserver --world /var/games/minetest-server/.minetest/worlds/Latest --port 30000")
20:43 Alcyone         minetestserver is installed with a Debian backport
20:44 sfan5           check where the binary actually resides
20:45 Alcyone         pi@raspberrypi /etc/systemd/system $ which minetestserver
20:46 Alcyone         .
20:46 Alcyone         which minetestserver => /usr/games/minetestserver
20:47 agaran          sfan5: I see you did not ask why I made one big struct for all datum/union.. :)
20:47 Alcyone         if it is the right command to find the binary
20:47 sfan5           agaran: you must've had a good reason, it looks a little unnecessary to me though
20:49 agaran          sfan5: well I wanted to avoid memory fragmentation simply and all those pieces are always used together..
20:50 agaran          plus union was cleanest way to get binary keys which are good for gdbm..
20:55 sfan5           agaran: i'm not questioning your usage of an union, but the struct is really not needed
20:55 sfan5           "memory fragmentation" is not a problem
20:55 sfan5           since these should be allocated on the stack anyway
20:57 agaran          I can fix that.
21:25 agaran          sfan5: extern GDBM_FILE gdbm_open __P((char *, int, int, int, void (*)()));
21:25 agaran          not every gdbm has 'const' qualifier for first arg..
21:25 sfan5           sloppy interface design
21:26 sfan5           just pass c_str() the compiler will warn if it's not const
21:26 agaran          okay, on one of my boxes it is not const.. thats why I wrote it around..
21:26 agaran          I did read docs..;)
21:27 sfan5           in any case your memory allocation should use the c++ way of doing things (except for freeing the stuff created by gdbm)
21:29 agaran          I saw that builds failed, and here builds were okay.. well :)
21:41 sfan5           agaran: maybe you are trying to import gdbm headers even if it is disabled
21:45 agaran          sfan5: I think I am not.. but okay trying to rework that on second box where different gcc throws lot more errors.
21:46 agaran          sfan5: and on my debian 8 gdbm db name isn't const.. (even if manual for same version says it is, headers say otherwise)
21:48 sfan5           wtf why does the implementation violate the manual
21:48 agaran          I don't know..
23:57 TheInformer     can someone help me?
23:58 TheInformer     I need help creating a formspec