Time Nick Message 02:35 kaeza yarg 02:35 kaeza gettext sucks so much 02:37 kaeza https://gist.github.com/kaeza/c5c9bdb9d41a68510503aba7a10aebf3 02:48 swift110 hey 03:27 * Taose wonders why Pine Trees are growing out of Apple trees... 03:27 mystik pineapple trees! 03:58 paramat hehe 03:59 paramat are the trunks within the same node column? 04:39 Benrob0329[m] We need a doctor who mod 04:43 Taose Yes Paramat, one on top of the other. Literally growing out of the top of it 05:17 paramat weird, i added tree roots to avoid that 05:50 cheapie Well, this mod I'm making is going to have a formspec with 128 blank buttons... yay? 05:52 cheapie It's a sort-of GAL for mesecons, and those buttons are going to be used for editing the fuse map. They *do* have labels, just not on the buttons until you press them. 06:28 cheapie Looks like I counted wrong, but still, 64 blank buttons :P 06:49 cheapie Here it is, now that it's more or less done: https://github.com/cheapie/mesegal 06:50 cheapie It's similar to the device shown in this video (even though that's in a different game, and more sophisticated than this one): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTwGsGb-ktw 08:17 agaran cheapie: next level will be mese fpga? 08:17 agaran including bitstream compiler made out of cobble? 08:19 Hawk777 :O 08:19 Hawk777 agaran: You know I had this crazy idea of making a VHDL-to-Redstone synthesizer back when I played The Other Voxel Game. 08:19 agaran :) 08:20 agaran that is doable, and emit mt schematics that can be just dropped in 08:20 Hawk777 Oh, I completely agree it’s *doable*. Also lots of work and kind of insane. 08:20 agaran use custom mapgen to place schematics... then make them die when they don't work together.. and you create sort of life form ;) 08:21 Hawk777 Place-and-route would be a much more interesting problem than a typical FPGA synthesis toolchain because, in Minetest, the target is 3D! 08:21 agaran yup 08:21 agaran with teletubes you can make 7D too;) 08:23 agaran and unlike with normal fpga, you can walk between its internals;) 08:33 Hawk777 Yeah, walking around giant circuits is kinda fun. 08:36 cheapie There aren't a whole lot of those left on VE-Creative, at least, as digilines+digistuff+rgblightstone+etc. is slowly killing off mesecons there. 08:43 XeonSquared digi... stuff? 08:43 XeonSquared is that an actual mod or just a term? 08:44 agaran cheapie: well digilines are workaround for overall slowness caused by extensive mesecons use.. 08:45 agaran and for that you can't toss 4 signals via one node.. 08:45 cheapie XeonSquared: https://github.com/cheapie/digistuff 08:46 cheapie agaran: Well, I also can't have 32 mesecons coming out of my traffic light controllers (and that would just be the outputs). 08:46 agaran yep :) 08:47 agaran thats what I mean 08:47 cheapie I would also need 12 inputs, and who knows how many for the UI. 08:47 XeonSquared Is there a current digilines terminal? 08:47 agaran I think so 08:48 cheapie You could make one with a LuaC and a touchscreen (from digistuff) :) 08:48 XeonSquared I'm trying to avoid luacontrollers 08:48 XeonSquared I have a super simple stack machine that can be programmed in machine code at the moment 08:48 XeonSquared Runs at a whopping 1Hz 08:49 cheapie Well, that's further than my mesecons computer has progressed... 08:49 XeonSquared It's a mod 08:49 XeonSquared ie it's written in Lua 08:49 cheapie Oh, OK. 08:50 XeonSquared I'm too lazy to build stuff like that now 08:50 XeonSquared It's about as powerful as a PDP-8 but a hell of a lot slower 08:51 XeonSquared But yeah I'm sorta writing adapters for peripherals and stuff that map into the address space 08:52 XeonSquared So I'm looking for a digilines terminal to write an adapter for, maybe multiple terminals (8 would fit in a single, 16-word page) 08:53 cheapie I think I'll stick to writing overly complicated traffic light controllers :P 08:54 XeonSquared :P 08:55 cheapie XeonSquared: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/screenshot_20170121_025500.png 08:56 XeonSquared uhm 08:56 XeonSquared Are there cars? 08:56 cheapie Nope. 08:57 agaran I saw cars in one or two servers so there is mod for those 08:57 Krock add cars, otherwise it's like a train station without trains 08:57 Krock looks nice but has no special use 08:57 XeonSquared Subway stations make great underground bases though 08:57 agaran Krock: isn't station without trains normal state in MT? 08:57 Krock well, I'd count carts as trains too 08:58 Krock because you can travel faster with them 08:58 cheapie Huh? All the carts mods I've seen were slower than running. 08:58 Krock lol.. https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/4vyej2q8bu.jpg 08:59 Krock cheapie, because the default run speed it overpowered. It's like you'd have a jetpack on your feets 09:03 Krock s/feets/feet/ 09:06 cheapie I don't even know how many I have any more, as I never built a total function into my inventory system. 09:06 XeonSquared Is that big one a Quantum Fireball? 09:06 XeonSquared wait 09:07 XeonSquared are those just multiple looking very similar? 09:07 Krock some WD, some Maxtor and Quantum 09:07 cheapie There's a Quantum Bigfoot TS in there, but it's not the biggest. 09:07 XeonSquared wait Fireballs are the smaller ones, aren't they? 09:07 cheapie Fireballs are 3.5". 09:07 XeonSquared Bigfoot were the 5.25" ones 09:08 cheapie I just queried the database directly, and I have 125 drives. 09:08 Krock wow shit man 09:08 Krock I want some of them :P 09:08 XeonSquared Do you have any spare SCSI drives? :P 09:09 cheapie XeonSquared: Quite a few, actually :P 09:09 XeonSquared https://a.uguu.se/5HQPW3kkeDVJ_2305.jpg here's my collection, no obvious drives because I pack everything into boxes 09:09 Krock I don't have an SCSI drive yet.. only PATA 09:09 * cheapie generates and screenshots an "all drives" report 09:10 XeonSquared I really need to clean that corner out 09:10 cheapie https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images/alldrives-2017-01-21.png 09:11 XeonSquared Maybe I need to get some shelves or something 09:11 Krock XeonSquared, cheapie won in terms of neatness. You've just put it on a table using a strange random sort function 09:12 XeonSquared And under a table! 09:12 agaran cheapie: :) I never got to make proper list like that.. but I'd rather keep it as csv.. easier to grep;) 09:12 Krock ah 09:12 XeonSquared Maybe the idea would be to put those two little racks along the wall... no, that won't work 09:13 Krock XeonSquared, why not? That would make it better 09:13 cheapie Drive #148 is a fun one. 09:13 cheapie 15K RPM, 146GB, SAS. 09:13 XeonSquared Krock: that eMac is a CRT 09:13 XeonSquared it's like half the width of the desk 09:13 XeonSquared there'd be no space in front for it 09:13 agaran cheapie: we use 10k/900G sas @work 2.5" 09:13 Krock oh 09:14 XeonSquared so no keyboard for it 09:14 XeonSquared Then again I could just stick it up one end 09:14 cheapie That drive is also a bit old: "number of hours powered up = 65265.07" 09:15 Krock why is PATA red colored? that looks like it would be bad 09:15 cheapie It's also seen over a PB of reads. 09:15 cheapie I more or less randomly chose the colors. 09:15 * XeonSquared has 4 15kRPM 36GB Ultra160 SCSI HDDs and 4 15kRPM 70GB Ultra320 HDDs 09:15 agaran hmm, 900G nvme pcie card @ work have up to 250PB writes.. 09:15 cheapie I only had SATA and PATA when I started it, so I gave SATA green and PATA red at the time. 09:15 cheapie I then extended that with more colors as I got more. 09:16 XeonSquared Maybe when I clean that area out I should do inventory... 09:16 agaran I am slowly scrapping old drives I have.. especially old as under 1G.. 09:16 cheapie I only scrap the broken ones. 09:16 agaran well 40MB WDC is not big deal aside of historical/sentimental value..:) 09:17 cheapie I have a 41MB Seagate in there :P 09:17 cheapie ST-251N, still works. 09:17 agaran I still have 40,80,120 and few more drives in MB region.. 09:17 agaran yes those ancients are noisy, but still working fine 09:17 XeonSquared cheapie: how much storage do you have in total? 09:18 cheapie Dunno. 09:18 cheapie I do know that I have 4 drives sitting on the shelf that add up to 10TB. 09:18 XeonSquared I have a server with 10TB :D 09:18 agaran XeonSquared: personal one? 09:18 XeonSquared yeah 09:18 XeonSquared for all my uh 09:19 XeonSquared linux isos 09:19 agaran neat, my personal @home has 3x1TB constellation ES.. 09:19 cheapie My storage server has 2 2TB drives in RAID 1, with a third for backup. 09:19 cheapie agaran: Heh, I have one of those sitting on the shelf collecting dust. 09:19 XeonSquared I've got 5 2TB HDDs in RAID 5 with a 120GB SSD for / 09:19 agaran cheapie: I had 4x but one has issues so removed it from raid.. 09:20 cheapie My main computer has a 256GB SSD, which is sort of overkill: /dev/nvme0n1p2 235G 34G 190G 15% / 09:20 XeonSquared That's the only SSD I own 09:20 agaran heh. nvme are neat 09:20 XeonSquared q_q 09:20 XeonSquared My desktop has two 500GB HDDs I got for free 09:20 XeonSquared just like every other computer I won 09:20 XeonSquared I own 09:20 agaran cheapie: you know that most recent smartctl has support to read statistics from nvme? 09:21 cheapie agaran: Yep, I've used it before. 09:21 Krock XeonSquared, donated from friends or what? 09:21 XeonSquared I have so much spare storage I got for free and not a huge amount of money so I can't really justify SSDs 09:21 cheapie XeonSquared: Heh, I have a few computers I got free. 09:21 XeonSquared Krock: friends, clients, workplaces... 09:21 XeonSquared I'm sort of an electronics disposal of sorts 09:21 Krock hehe, got my stuff on the same way :3 09:21 agaran Krock: it starts to be sad when you can get next computer for free and you have no room for that.. 09:21 XeonSquared I take whatever people give me and either rebuild and sell it or dispose of it properly 09:22 Krock agaran, oh yes, I know that problem 09:22 cheapie I'm trying to see if I can find a suitable stand to replace an old P1 box at school that's being used as one. 09:22 XeonSquared Most recently I could've gotten literally hundreds of Lenovo IdeaPad S10es but I only took 20 because space 09:22 XeonSquared They're worth <$50/piece nowdays so I'm pretty much giving them away to people without reasonable computing ability 09:23 XeonSquared ie no computer or really ancient computer 09:23 XeonSquared met someone a while back 09:23 XeonSquared they were using an iBook G4 09:23 XeonSquared OS X 10.4 09:23 cheapie This old P3 box I have is decent at most stuff as long as you don't try to do anything online with much JS. 09:24 XeonSquared I have a wonderful dual P3 1.133Ghz box with 768M of RAM 09:24 cheapie Mine is only 1x 933 MHz with 256MB of RAM :( 09:25 XeonSquared It has the 4 15kRPM SCSI Ultra320 HDDs 09:25 XeonSquared the wonders of schools disposing of old servers 09:25 cheapie I have a WD Vantage 9.1GB 10K RPM hard drive in it. 09:25 cheapie Some sort of SCSI, not like I care aside from it being wide and LVD. 09:25 XeonSquared What do you use for your inventory stuff? 09:25 XeonSquared I uh 09:25 cheapie Custom PHP scripts and MySQL. 09:25 XeonSquared feel a need to do inventory now 09:26 XeonSquared Ah okay 09:26 XeonSquared well 09:26 XeonSquared I'm not gonna do that, at least to start 09:26 XeonSquared Time to fire up LO Calc I guess 09:26 cheapie I've considered moving it to some kind of Lua-based solution, as I have way more Lua experience than PHP. 09:26 XeonSquared Lua CGI scripts are wonderfulk 09:26 XeonSquared Wonderful 09:26 XeonSquared I use them for my site and they're so nice to use 09:27 XeonSquared at least on apache2 09:27 cheapie I was thinking more CLI than CGI. 09:27 agaran but you will need to implement a lot instead of using ready php.. 09:27 cheapie (although CGI could be an option) 09:27 XeonSquared Inventory as Lua tables could be nice 09:28 cheapie I have connected a LuaC to a hard drive before, not that that's related :P 09:28 cheapie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeiJxJPCn2U 09:30 XeonSquared ... 09:42 XeonSquared Hm 09:42 XeonSquared Different sheet for each type? 09:42 XeonSquared Yeah, why not?> 09:43 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Do not force deletion of players when mapblock is full (#5081) 132ea6015 https://git.io/vMHx1 (152017-01-21T09:41:00Z) 09:44 cheapie ...OK, so I was just ranting about that on a different network, and now, less than half an hour later, it gets fixed? 09:45 agaran yes;) you rant good way 09:49 XeonSquared How does one store graphics cards/ 09:53 agaran in box? 09:53 Krock into a box: carton, card, carton, card, ... 09:53 Krock or just card on card if they're not worthful 09:53 XeonSquared Well, stacking them together in ESD protection bags doesn't seem ideal 09:53 agaran get more bags 09:54 agaran bbl 09:55 Krock depending on the age of the card you can ignore ESD - no idea how many times I'd have destroyed this Riva TNT card 09:55 XeonSquared These are this-decade NVIDIA cards 09:55 XeonSquared mostly not low end either 09:55 Krock ah, well then it's better to put them into bags 10:00 XeonSquared All the old ones are in an old motherboard box 10:00 XeonSquared probably the nForce 4 Albatron box actually 10:30 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Warning fix for 2ea60156437962d7d29d20606bf5d9189059f76b (#5082) 130eede97 https://git.io/vMHhv (152017-01-21T10:29:18Z) 10:33 XeonSquared https://i.imgur.com/qVwSeEN.png 10:33 XeonSquared It begins. 10:35 Krock +1 for libreOffice 10:35 XeonSquared Well, it has the sanest interface and works well. 10:36 Krock also index all cables and PSU's you have 10:37 Krock not to forget all PCI(-E) and AGP cards 10:38 XeonSquared I should probably generalize Graphics Cards to just Cards 10:39 agaran how about turbochannel, isa8, isa16, isa-vlb cards?;) and eisa.. and mca? 10:40 XeonSquared Only got 4 ISA cards 10:42 XeonSquared ... 10:42 XeonSquared The 8-port switch on my desk only has two things connected 10:42 XeonSquared the big 48-port switch in the rack and my deskop 10:42 XeonSquared why is it even here 10:48 agaran heh.. I have two 5ports and they are barelly enough 10:49 agaran especially when I connect ethernet-equipped mcus 10:56 XeonSquared ... 10:56 XeonSquared These monitors have their serial numbers in chinese 11:27 rdococ yaw goes counterclockwise, right? 11:40 rdococ yay got my thing to work 11:44 rdococ I modified a portal gun mod I found to better set the player's yaw on teleportation 11:52 Kurolox Hello. Why am I seeing random purple cubes with the "missing object" text in them? 11:55 Kurolox Also there's a way to make the minetest client save my password and put it automatically in servers? 11:56 sfan5 nope not possible 11:56 sfan5 also about "missing object": that can happen when mods are removed from servers 11:58 rdococ you can also use /spawnentity with an unknown entity name to spawn one in 12:05 Kurolox Hm. I'm getting missing objects in a new generated map, so I don't think that's the issue 12:05 Kurolox there are mods tho, but I haven't interacted with the world yet or modified any mod since the world was generated 12:46 juli @Kurolox u can compile it yourself and write your Password into code ... 12:46 juli but i think that is not a good solution 12:48 Kurolox I could, but I'll pass. Also, how demanding is to have rollback enabled in a server? I guess that quite a lot, but I'd like to know for sure. 12:49 red-001 I think est31 made a basic password manager some time ago 12:50 red-001 you can modify builtin to make it enter the password 14:14 rdococ ĸrø¢ĸ 14:14 rdococ :þ 15:11 MinetestBot 02[git] 04red-001 -> 03minetest/minetest: Detach the player from entities on death. (#5077) 1372535d3 https://git.io/vMQtq (152017-01-21T15:11:55Z) 16:05 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sapier at gmx dot net -> 03minetest/minetest: Add Entity get_texture_mod() to Lua API 13c57b4ff https://git.io/vMQmy (152017-01-21T16:01:02Z) 16:14 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sapier at gmx dot net -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix unknown command message not providing number of cmd 13238b021 https://git.io/vMQYZ (152017-01-21T16:13:53Z) 16:17 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sapier at gmx dot net -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix unknown command message not providing number of cmd 13b9c1a75 https://git.io/vMQYE (152017-01-21T16:16:22Z) 16:32 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Revert "Detach the player from entities on death." (#5087) 13bc29e03 https://git.io/vMQO8 (152017-01-21T16:30:55Z) 16:58 CWz i am wandering why that was reverted 16:58 CWz *wondering 17:01 red-001 there is a bug that happens when the player is killed by lava 17:07 passant hi there, i am currently a bit confused - i ran cmake with -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 but it only works when the server is started within the directory but not outside: error while loading shared libraries: libspatialindex.so.4 17:23 agaran passant: ldd ./ 17:23 agaran see from what patch it got library 17:24 agaran it may be systemwide OR build along minetest 17:26 passant ah, thanks for the command, agaran, good to know about. however: libspatialindex.so.4 => not found 17:26 passant *the bin/minetestserver is available 17:26 passant odd? 17:27 passant *i mean the path is correctly set in the bin/minetestserver while it is 'not found' in the installed binary 17:48 sfan5 passant: looks like you compiled minetest with a locally installed library and LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. or -rpath . 17:48 sfan5 easiest solution is to not do that 17:49 sfan5 other solution would be to install said library system-wide 17:50 passant sfan5, this is the full version: -DBUILD_SERVER=1 -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 -DENABLE_REDIS=1 -DENABLE_LUAJIT=1 -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release -DENABLE_SPATIAL=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DCURSES_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include -DCURSES_HAVE_NCURSES_H=TRUE -DRUN_IN_PLACE=0 while my latest attept was with -DSPATIAL_LIBRARY=/usr/local/lib/libspatialindex.so.4 17:50 sfan5 well it looks like /usr/local/lib is not in your library path 17:52 passant so i should define LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib ? 17:54 sfan5 that might help 17:58 passant same result, sadly 17:58 passant i noticed 'Set runtime path of "/usr/local/bin/minetestserver" to ""', maybe it helps.. 18:02 agaran you can add /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf, then ldconfig -v 18:02 agaran sorry for delay, focused on other window 18:04 passant woooo, thanks agaran \o/ 18:32 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Add show_statusline_on_connect setting (#5084) 136d5a407 https://git.io/vMQcg (152017-01-21T18:30:42Z) 18:38 crazyR sfan5 is there any reason why minetest.override_item() would fail to change "default:glass" definition?? 19:08 sfan5 crazyR: default:glass is not an item but a node 19:08 sfan5 but i don't know whether there are different functions for that 19:10 crazyR from what ive read it works for both items and nodes.. but doesnt seem to be working.. ive also tried minetest.register_node(":default:glass"...... etc with no luck.. il continue to search for the reason thougth lol :D 19:59 IhrFussel sfan5: what was the command to check the segfault function again? addr2line called with some options? 19:59 IhrFussel Cause it happened again 19:59 sfan5 Jan 05 14:25:58 run addr2line -pfC -e 20:00 IhrFussel Ok thanks 20:00 agaran if you got core, you can load it to gdb, and run bt as well 20:01 sfan5 indeed 20:02 IhrFussel It is the exact same function again SendMovePlayer 20:03 sfan5 well probably something called SendMovePlayer for a player that doesn't exist 20:07 IhrFussel Could be... 20:28 Calinou just stumbled upon this, http://sqlitebrowser.org/ 20:31 Krock yeah, pretty nice tool but not very usable for compressed data 20:32 sfan5 it's of zero use with minetest 20:34 Calinou indeed, I tried 20:35 rdococ ih 21:07 MinetestBot 02[git] 04nerzhul -> 03minetest/minetest: Remove os.exit from the Lua secure sandbox (#5090) 1339123fc https://git.io/vMQEW (152017-01-21T21:05:54Z) 22:14 thePalindrome Any regular players here? 22:16 Calinou thePalindrome: yes :p 22:18 thePalindrome I'm trying to think what would make for a decent unit of power for mt 22:18 thePalindrome mc managed to standardize Redstone Flux, and I'd rather start a power system right in mt :P 22:23 thePalindrome Now, I understand that mesecons are basically redstone, but I'd like to at least pretend I'm creative :P 22:23 Calinou MesepowerTuxGNUMSEvil 22:23 Calinou how about this? 22:24 Calinou every open source game needs Tux! 22:24 Calinou ;) 22:24 thePalindrome You misspelled M$ 22:24 thePalindrome :P 22:32 swift110 hey guys 22:32 thePalindrome Heya 22:32 swift110 Solus OS has the latest version of Minetest 22:32 swift110 how are you thePalindrome 22:32 Benrob0329[m] How about bits? 22:32 thePalindrome As in mese bits :P 22:32 Benrob0329[m] Since mesecons doesn't have power kevels 22:32 Benrob0329[m] *levels 22:32 thePalindrome touche 22:33 thePalindrome which imo is rather irritating 22:33 thePalindrome @swift I'm just getting around to filling out my forum profile 22:33 Benrob0329[m] Id rather see mesecons become more reliable before I see power levels though 22:33 thePalindrome Figured I should ask the forum what mc mods they want ported :P 22:34 swift110 thePalindrome: I need to do that myself 22:38 thePalindrome Do we have any "extra entity api" mods? 22:39 thePalindrome Core game doesn't have passive vs. hostile 22:44 thePalindrome What do you guys think about pretending the "far lands" are a thing? 22:45 thePalindrome Like for tracks 17,18, and 19 here: https://musescore.com/blackavar/sets/2408326 23:32 cong how do i fix this area https://puu.sh/tuWts/32c4d97e4f.png 23:33 cong game glitched the area 23:33 Benrob0329[m] You could try to regenerate it 23:33 Benrob0329[m] ```/deleteblocks here 10``` 23:35 cong it worked! thank you.