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IRC log for #minetest, 2017-01-12

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00:00 Fritigern My MT pull+build script : http://pastebin.com/D0d6hJU2
00:01 twoelk I had a stick with portableapps providing the windows stuff and a set of apps working pretty well on Ubuntu organized by a portablemenu . Bricked it though on some stupid public pc
00:01 KaadmY make them installed on a read-only partition
00:01 KaadmY partition/dir
00:01 garywhite I used to use PortableApps, may start again now that Hexchat is available through it
00:02 kaeza most of their apps lag behind "official" releases
00:03 twoelk my current minetest installs are all on a portable device organized by portableapps and ASuite
00:03 kaeza still quite nice and tidy
00:03 KaadmY is it basically a VM?
00:03 KaadmY seems small, they say 9mb install
00:04 twoelk just yesterday I corrupted my sqlite database that feeds ASuite though
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00:10 twoelk hm, my main PortableApps folder includes nearly 170 apps weighing some 11GB
00:12 twoelk ha, the about 90 games in my gaming PortableApps are a little lighter with about 10GB
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00:33 * twoelk just found out his minetest and related programs folder is 29GB large taking up 41GB of space. The screenshots alone take up 4GB
00:34 KaadmY wow
00:34 KaadmY that's 60% of my SSD size
00:34 KaadmY i have a 64Gb SSD
00:40 twoelk well I use some 350 of 500 as it functions as my mobile office
00:42 twoelk the CAD stuff is usually large as it sort of piles up. I have to watch that I keep transfering videos and pictures to other devices
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03:15 swift110-phone Hey
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07:54 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Dye: Simplify recipes. df19b4e https://git.io/vMuyf (2017-01-12T07:53:44Z)
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09:38 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Thursday, and happy Poetry At Work Day! ūüėÉ
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12:35 Bukki Hi, is there a Mod which restarts the Server on Chat Command?
12:36 Bukki or reload Mod Files?
12:38 Shara Just use /shutdown command.
12:39 Bukki Using Shutdown it doesn't restart, or?
12:39 Shara If it's a server anyway, most people have it on a script so server just restarts after that.
12:40 Bukki Have an Link for that script?
12:41 Shara I wrote my own, but you can probably find ones people have made available.
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13:13 Taose Is there some reason why minetest favours spawning in Snow zones?
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13:27 Taose It would really help if I could preview the map before -_-
13:34 agaran Taose, why not join some internet server and toy there?
13:35 Taose I'm still experimenting with mods and such
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13:36 Taose and I generally have different interests from most people. Quite often they install something that drives me nuts.
13:37 Taose Like...creatures that drop Mese crystals for instance.
13:37 Taose -_-
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15:44 rdococ -_-
15:44 rdococ why would a creature drop a rare ore
15:44 rdococ creatures can't even MINE
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16:17 twoelk they could be stealing ;-P
16:21 rubenwardy https://gaming.youtube.com‚Äč/c/rubenwardyOfficial/live
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16:29 Taose rdococ, why would creatures drop gold necklaces? Old style rpgs wore off fast. I'd much rather harvest their parts. ;).
16:30 * rdococ is thinking about salt ore
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17:00 DS is there a reason why the sound_volume option is not limited?
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17:05 DS seting the sound_volume to a negative value seems to make it sound as loud as with the positive value
17:06 DS and a too high value makes it sound eh
17:06 Calinou DS: make an issue on GitHub
17:07 Calinou personally I think sound_volume should be able to go up to 2.0, but not below 0.0
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17:07 DS +
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17:11 DS im testing now how high it should be max
17:12 DS 5 is too high
17:12 DS 2 is ok
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17:13 DS 3.5 is bad
17:14 DS 3 is also bad
17:15 DS issue: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/5026
17:16 DS Calinou: I hope, it's ok that I copied your "I think sound_volume should be able to go up to 2.0, but not below 0.0" . :D
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17:20 Calinou sure
17:21 DS btw do you know why the sound is that iih if the minetest sound volume is that high?
17:22 KaadmY does MT use openal btw?
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17:25 Calinou I think so, since it doesn't use SDL
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18:00 rubenwardy !server Last Man Standing
18:00 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Last Man Standing! (Spleef) | minetest.rubenwardy.com | Clients: 0/16, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.15-dev / last_man_standing | Ping: 1ms
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18:44 xerox123 !server JM-Creative
18:44 MinetestBot xerox123: No results
18:45 xerox123 how do I get mods to load with minetestserver (placed them all in minetest/mods?
18:58 garywhite minetest.conf file
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18:58 garywhite I think, hold on
18:59 sfan5 xerox123: world.mt
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18:59 garywhite Sorry, go to minetestdir/worlds/worldname and open the world.mt file in a text program, then enable the mod using changing the false in load_mod_modname to true
19:00 xerox123 thanks!
19:03 garywhite sfan5 can I ring the !next bell?
19:04 sfan5 yes
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19:05 garywhite !next
19:05 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
19:05 garywhite :)
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19:20 * cheapie had entirely too much fun drawing textures today
19:20 cheapie https://cheapiesystems.com/media/im‚Äčages/screenshot_20170112_131630.png
19:20 agaran nice cabinet..
19:21 agaran 1 node tall or 2 nodes tall?
19:21 cheapie 2 nodes.
19:21 cheapie I have zero blender experience, so it's using nodeboxes.
19:22 agaran understood, texture looks great
19:22 cheapie Heh, thanks.
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20:45 MinetestBot [git] baptistepouget -> minetest/minetest_game: Add support for custom bed sounds 57eb906 https://git.io/vMgWJ (2017-01-12T20:42:38Z)
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20:57 TelepathicVampir Hey guys, i want to keep track of all node types the player knows (has dug). Is loading, saving and comparing (on_dug) a list that can have the size of all available node types any performance concern?
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21:03 sofar TelepathicVampir: shouldn't be too bad, assuming one table per player
21:03 sofar tables with keys (hashes) in lua are fairly efficient
21:04 sofar has_dug[nodename] = true
21:04 sofar if has_dug["default:dirt"] then ...
21:05 TelepathicVampir excellent thanks
21:06 TelepathicVampir also i like to make a request for the minetest engine/api to add global factor for digging speed, like with walking speed but i'm unsure where to put the request exactly
21:06 TelepathicVampir never used github before
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21:19 sfan5 a global factor for digging speed?
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21:20 TelepathicVampir so you can add a player effect slow/fast digging
21:21 TelepathicVampir for example when the player gets cold, has a disease or wears heavy armor
21:22 TelepathicVampir or as it would be the case in my mod: smoked too much weed ;)
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21:27 sfan5 huh nice
21:32 TelepathicVampir same with a damage modifier, for strength and weakness potions/effects
21:33 TelepathicVampir easy to implement, no change in default game and more freedom for creative modders
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21:43 sfan5 open an feature request issue on github
21:43 sfan5 it should be done is approximately 2 years
21:50 TelepathicVampir do i put the request in the minetest or minetest_game directory?
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21:56 TelepathicVampir And since i am an experienced coder i am confident i could make the changes myself, if this would speed up the process.
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23:40 garywhite Minetest Survey https://goo.gl/forms/PPQD6Sp0Xqwpyysi1
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23:51 paramat Taose "Is there some reason why minetest favours spawning in Snow zones?" odd that some are saying this. area of cold biomes are still < 50% of the world, although it has risen slightly in the new set of biomes, see the diagram here https://forum.minetest.net/vi‚Äčewtopic.php?f=18&amp;t=15939
23:53 paramat 4 out of 12 are snow biomes ICE TAI TUN SGR so their area will be close to 33%
23:55 paramat the previous set of biomes had 3 snow biomes out of 10, so slightly less area, 30%
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23:58 paramat maybe cold biomes just make more of an impression: "ooh crumbs a snow biome, cold, why did i spawn here?"
23:58 paramat there's less reason to complain with a temperate spawn :]

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