Time Nick Message 00:00 Wuzzy otherwise, they fucked up being authoritaritan xD 00:00 Fixer Wuzzy: it has, look Russia, China etc 00:00 Wuzzy well that just proofs they can learn a lot from North Korea :) 00:00 GreenDimond Fixer wrote: "GreenDimond: done https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable " 00:00 Fixer Wuzzy: just recently rusnacionalist who posted a blogpost about russians bombing assad opposition (but not ISIL much) got 2 years in prison 00:00 GreenDimond oh. 00:00 GreenDimond DUH. 00:01 GreenDimond i forgot to run sudo apt-get update xD 00:01 Fixer Wuzzy: or.. guy who reposted some picture about Ukraine resistence get sentenced for year or more 00:01 GreenDimond offtopic forum still not cleared... 00:02 Fixer Wuzzy: it is happened, free speech is been destroyed in East Europe/Asia (China already destroyed it I think) 00:02 Fixer everyone wants control 00:02 emunand i see a lot of chinese people over ZeroNet 00:02 Wuzzy true story 00:02 emunand also just found out about zerotube 00:02 emunand or zeronet youtube 00:02 GreenDimond upgrading minetest.... 00:03 Fixer lots of fear of people, after african revolutions, authoritarian regimes pay much more attention to internet 00:03 GreenDimond YAY. 00:03 emunand havent seen the update yet 00:03 Fixer also, lots of propaganda from russian/chinese paid trolls 00:03 emunand GreenDimond: where is it? 00:03 Wuzzy lots of propaganda from basically all countries? :P 00:03 GreenDimond run sudo apt-get update 00:03 GreenDimond then run 00:03 GreenDimond sudo apt-get upgrade minetest 00:04 Wuzzy propaganda is normal politics :D 00:16 Wuzzy interesting. i didnt know that bots are "he's" in English. you learn something new every day. 00:16 GreenDimond better idea.... 00:16 GreenDimond maybe it will work 00:16 emunand it 00:17 GreenDimond uninstalling and reinstalling 00:19 GreenDimond why the heck does it take 5 seconds to install?! 00:19 GreenDimond that should not happen! 00:19 Wuzzy maybe u jsut installed it from cache 00:20 Wuzzy GreenDimond: have you already looked for similar-named minetest packages? 00:20 GreenDimond How was I able to do it before?!?!?! 00:20 Wuzzy idk 00:21 GreenDimond when I got 0.4.14 all i did was ad the repo update and install! 00:21 GreenDimond *add 00:21 Wuzzy according to pkgs.org there are 3 packages: minetest, minetest-data and minetest-server 00:21 GreenDimond ik it installed all of them 00:21 GreenDimond but not this time 00:21 Wuzzy installed AND updated? 00:21 GreenDimond by using the repo it installs latest 00:23 GreenDimond how do i completely remove something?????? 00:24 Wuzzy with a hammer 00:24 Wuzzy or wipe 00:24 GreenDimond remove a PROGRAM. 00:25 Wuzzy wipe removes everything securely 00:25 Wuzzy but i dont know which os ur using, so sorry 00:25 GreenDimond xubuntu. 00:25 Wuzzy apt-get omgidontknowthecommand 00:26 GreenDimond why is .minetest still there?! 00:26 Wuzzy because this is your user data 00:26 GreenDimond what the heck? 00:26 Wuzzy package managers dont touch those and should not touch them 00:26 GreenDimond oh yeah :P 00:27 Wuzzy well, would you really want to lose all worlds after uninstalling minetest? 00:27 Wuzzy because thats where your worlds are 00:27 GreenDimond i copied the data to a different folder 00:27 GreenDimond lemme check the usr/share/ 00:27 GreenDimond its not there.... 00:27 GreenDimond so why is it giving me the wrong one?! 00:28 GreenDimond LOL 00:28 GreenDimond of course. 00:28 GreenDimond minetestc55 not minetest. 00:29 GreenDimond nope. nvm. wrong post. 00:31 GreenDimond D': 00:41 Fixer Water reflow! \o/ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0SK8O1WgAEVTwg.jpg 00:47 GreenDimond ! 00:47 GreenDimond WHAT?! 00:48 Fixer GreenDimond: 0.4.15 has fixed water reflow, that means there should be no stuck water in 99.99999% cases 00:48 Fixer liquids flow 00:48 Fixer and thats good 00:48 GreenDimond well i cant get 0.4.15 D: 00:48 GreenDimond and thats bad 00:49 Fixer try harder, meanwhile - good night 00:49 GreenDimond night :( 00:49 Fixer GreenDimond: make sure you are installing never version from PPA 00:49 GreenDimond i am :( 00:49 GreenDimond its not working 00:50 Fixer make sure you are using correct ppa 00:50 Fixer and updating from correct ppa 00:50 Fixer etc 00:50 GreenDimond that too :( 00:55 jordan4ibanez #minetest-dev 00:55 jordan4ibanez Oops :P 00:59 GreenDimond https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16218 00:59 GreenDimond help D: 01:02 GreenDimond hi rdococ. 01:15 Wuzzy I just updated for you. :-) 01:15 Wuzzy Minetest Game has LOADs of new fuels for you to burn 01:16 GreenDimond :( 01:16 Wuzzy i thought it might interest you which items can now be burned 01:16 Wuzzy why ":("? 01:16 GreenDimond doesnt matter for me since I cant get the new game. New fuels are useless atm. 01:18 Wuzzy oh and before someone thinks i actually wrote all the fuel times in by hand: NOPE. I mostly generated this table with a script :-) (see discussion page) 01:29 freelikegnu new fuels? 01:30 freelikegnu poor nyan cats... 01:31 freelikegnu burning books should cause something awful to happen 01:37 XeonSquared ignite the whole area 02:01 garywhite octacian: You want me to run an update build of the server OS? Tomorrow morning is gonna be my last chance till possibly after the new year 02:03 whitephoenix0 So did everyone just decide to quit testjam? 02:03 garywhite idk whitephoenix0 02:18 jordan4ibanez freelikegnu: I love your sheep model! 02:19 jordan4ibanez It's funny to watch them jive around the world, haha 02:21 jordan4ibanez https://github.com/jordan4ibanez/open_ai/issues/1 I think this is a minetest.conf thing though 02:28 garywhite Guys if I were to make a server OS build with SUSE Studio for running MT servers, what should I include? 02:34 jordan4ibanez garywhite: Mumble 02:38 OldCoder garywhite, Hi; server OS build? 02:41 whitephoenix0 garywhite, alpine linux + minetest and mumble deps 02:42 whitephoenix0 keep the iso size small, suse studio will install all kinds of extra junk 03:11 freelikegnu jordan4ibanez: glad you like it :D 03:12 freelikegnu jordan4ibanez: oh I did not make a collision box for it :o 03:13 jordan4ibanez Dont' worry I made one 03:13 freelikegnu I'll make some grazing anims for ti too 03:14 freelikegnu is it possible to sue the jump anim? 03:14 freelikegnu use 03:15 freelikegnu also to shear the sheep you only need to swapt the texture (wool) becomes alpha 03:24 freelikegnu I wonder why mobs were oriented to Y? 03:53 octacian garywhite: sure, go ahead. I'll test it tomorrow. 03:56 freelikegnu ugh... jordan4ibanez dont bother with that last PR, I have to fix some bones :P 04:25 jordan4ibanez I already commited it! 04:55 jordan4ibanez freelikegnu: Could you make a fish? 10:15 fireglow gz on the release! 13:38 blerttt is there a way to change subgame folder path as we can do to textures path? 16:36 Amaz Just released Lord of the Test v1.1.0 :) https://github.com/minetest-LOTR/Lord-of-the-Test/releases/tag/v1.1.0 16:38 freelikegnu nice 17:09 est31 cool! 17:37 willvarfar I recently added ppa:minetestdevs/stable to my kids xubuntu laptops and upgraded minetest to 4.14. (I see there has been a release just today! I upgraded yesterday.) The menu doesn't show any mods, although the mods already in their existing worlds still work. 17:38 willvarfar Previously, when they had 4.11 IIRC, there was a button for an online mod store but it didn't seem to do anything. 17:38 willvarfar Now there is no obvious button to do anything. 17:38 willvarfar is there a mod store? And, importantly, are there mine carts now? :) 17:39 sfan5 the mod store was removed because it was horribly broken 17:39 sfan5 minetest_game now includes carts by default 17:39 sfan5 (in 0.4.15) 17:40 willvarfar still lots of mods? 17:43 whitephoenix all of the mods are still around 17:44 willvarfar how should they be installed? 17:44 whitephoenix I download them from the forum or git clone them, but I think theres mod managers 17:45 willvarfar are there release notes for 4.15? Can't spot any on the website 17:45 willvarfar going from 4.11 (is that the last one packaged by debian? sad) to 4.14 was absolutely gorgeous 17:47 whitephoenix I don't think so, its kinda messy but you could look through commits since 4.14 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/compare/0.4.14...master 17:47 sfan5 willvarfar: no release notes yet 17:47 sfan5 but here are the changes you likely care about https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=243697#p243697 17:50 willvarfar hurrah that looks like awesome :) 17:54 willvarfar thx all for working on minetest 17:55 willvarfar installing mods manually seems a bit daunting, shame there's not a mod manager 17:55 willvarfar my kids really love minetest and build massive worlds together in creative mode 17:55 willvarfar will go upgrade :) 18:31 AlexINF Hey all! 18:32 AlexINF I just wanted to thank you all for making the 0,0,0 bug disappear! 18:32 AlexINF You guys rock! 20:05 IhrFussel New possible bug: Player connects, everything loads fine but when they join they only see a gray background...reconnecting doesn't solve it, deleting cache folder doesn't solve it, changing MT client version doesn't help either...It seems to be a problem with the server version (0.4.14-dev Dec 18) cause it happened to me too (0.4.14 Android), the other player uses a PC (0.4.15 and 0.4.14) 20:07 IhrFussel Only a server restart solves that bug 20:09 IhrFussel I'm posting here first cause maybe someone already discussed that bug with you guys 20:10 GreenDimond 0.4.14? 20:10 GreenDimond thats outdated D: 20:10 GreenDimond and daily is unstable 20:12 IhrFussel GreenDimond, my Android version is 0.4.14...there was no update for the Play Store yet AFAIK ... my server uses almost the latest dev but the client version seems to not matter cause it happens on PC and phone, on 0.4.14 and 0.4.15 20:12 GreenDimond 0.4.15 for android will be out soon 20:12 GreenDimond as for your bug, im not a code person. dunno wat to do :P 20:12 GreenDimond srry 20:13 IhrFussel It's definitely server-side since a restart fixes everything 20:16 garywhite What's wrong IhrFussel? 20:17 IhrFussel garywhite, read above 20:18 garywhite Hmm...Use the PC client to reproduce the bug and press F5. Then tell me what the coords are 20:18 Shara IhrFussel: Checked coords on join? It sounds like the 0,0,0 bug to me. 20:21 GreenDimond 0,0,0 was fixed in 0.4.15 right? 20:21 Shara Should be. 20:22 Shara But needs server update. Which client you use won't matter. 20:22 IhrFussel Shara, yes 0,-0.5,0 is the position but new is that the player sees only gray...AFAIK the older bug is "player sees the map but can't move" 20:22 Shara IhrFussel: From my experience, it's grey for a time, then moves to normal colour. 20:23 Shara But difficult for me to judge, as even at its worse I don't ever get the bug for more than a second myself. 20:23 IhrFussel Shara, it's been over 20 minutes now...also my server is on the (almost) newest version like I said I compiled it Dec 18 from github 20:24 Shara Some players used to tell me they had these kinds of wait times as well. 20:24 Shara Will see if I can connect there though. Curious now 20:24 GreenDimond i have never had grey on redcat. 20:24 GreenDimond have had on other servers long time ago tho 20:24 IhrFussel It won't happen to all players..it's random it happened to me yesterday on Android, now it's happening to a player with PC 20:24 Shara Grey on RC was normal for me. For about a half second. 20:25 Shara IhrFussel: Straight in with no grey 20:25 IhrFussel Cause it only happens sometimes 20:26 Shara Don't know what else it could be other than same 0,0,0 bug 20:26 IhrFussel Shara, now he says it works again without restart 20:27 Shara No idea then :) 20:27 IhrFussel He says he reconnectet 10 times and it suddenly loaded again 20:28 Shara With any luck new version fixes it for you anyway. 20:29 IhrFussel I doubt it unless it was fixed in the last 5 days 20:31 Fixer GreenDimond: right 20:31 Fixer alsk 20:31 Fixer also 20:31 GreenDimond right? 20:31 Fixer if you have 0 0 0 bug on 0.4.15 - UPDATE your mods 20:32 Fixer mods also got fixes for 0 0 0 20:32 Fixer default, bags, unified inventory, armor 20:32 GreenDimond bags? 20:32 GreenDimond oh that was merged? 20:32 Shara Bug was related to inventories. 20:36 IhrFussel Mods can cause SUCH major bugs in the engine? Not sure how I should feel about that 20:41 Fixer IhrFussel: some mods created lots of detached inventories, every player on join downloaded them ALL causing the 0 0 0 bug, now it is fixed in game and main mods, you download only your inventories 20:42 sfan5 IhrFussel: you need to update both the engine and your mods to fix the 0,0,0 bugf 20:53 GreenDimond Something random: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsU3B0W3TMs 21:23 Krock o/ MT 0.4.15! 21:24 agaran whereee? 21:30 Krock agaran, hereeee 21:35 Fixer \\\\o 21:35 Fixer Krock: you are slow 21:35 Krock Fixer, yesteday I left a hour before it was released 21:35 GreenDimond Its been out since noon (pacific standard) yesterday :P 21:35 Krock and was busy today 21:43 * cheapie is making some progress on connecting luacontrollers to the internet 21:44 cheapie (in a reasonably non-abusable way, too) 21:44 cheapie And by "progress", I mean "I pretty much just need to make some textures now". 21:53 cheapie As a proof-of-concept, I do have the "modem" working with a 9-line LuaC program to automatically download and install the latest version of my LTC-4000 traffic light controller firmware on the LuaC (using the new program() function that I've opened a PR for). 21:54 cheapie I have to head to work now, but the "modem" will likely be finished later tonight or tomorrow. 22:00 GreenDimond cheapie: this will be part of mesecons mod?