Time Nick Message 00:00 garywhite So all I have to do is add in whatever mods I want to add, edit the game.conf to the right name, and that's it? 00:03 kaeza I don't recall the exact details, but the bare minimum is the `mapgen_*` aliases in `default/mapgen.lua` (unless you have some mod setting the mapgen to singlenode and handling mapgen yourself) 00:03 kaeza other than that, anything you want 00:05 garywhite OK, also do I need to get the permission of the developer of each mod to use it? 00:07 kaeza read the mod license :^) 00:07 garywhite I have to read the mod license? 00:10 Calinou garywhite: or read a TL;DR, at your own risk 00:10 Calinou http://choosealicense.com/ 00:10 Calinou most mods use MIT license or equivalent, a few use GPL 00:13 garywhite What I'll do is (since it will go on GitHub anyway) in the README files I'll put all the mods with credits for each's developer aside from the main minetest_game files, and put it under the MIT license. That should cover my butt 00:14 PR4061Works *,...,* 00:14 garywhite Do you guys think that'll work? 00:17 kaeza WANL, but stay clear of CC-ND (and possibly -NC) stuff 00:17 garywhite kaeza: WANL? 00:17 kaeza We are not lawyers 00:18 garywhite So basically, in your opinion, as long as I stay clear of stuff under a Creative Commons license (perhaps look for ones under WTFPL and MIT), I should be OK? 00:19 kaeza no, CC is fine, but not -ND (No Derivatives) and possibly -NC (Non Commercial) 00:19 garywhite ok 00:20 garywhite But WTFPL and MIT are basically like the failsafes, as long as you give credit, you're fine? 00:20 kaeza WTFPL is pretty... explicit, if you know what I mean :P 00:21 garywhite yeah 00:25 kaeza read `Calinou's link 00:25 garywhite You know what, I'll just ask the devs of each mod, that's the best way to cover me 00:46 Sokomine hmm. why don't the images for moresnow show up on github's wiki? https://github.com/Sokomine/moresnow/wiki is supposed to have some small images... 00:55 octacian garywhite: please don't use WTFPL... 00:57 garywhite I probably won't, maybe CC-BY-SA 00:58 octacian keep in mind, CC-BY-SA (what I use) only covers media. While MIT or GPL only covers code. 00:58 octacian not something that will really matter, just useful to know if you make your own mod :) 00:59 kaeza Unlicense or CC-0 are alternatives to WTFPL, if you want to go that way 00:59 garywhite ok. I'm also working on my own Linux desktop to run in Virtualbox 01:00 octacian yeah 01:00 garywhite (Suse Studio again) 01:03 kaeza Sokomine, try using the absolute URL 01:18 Sokomine kaeza: thanks! that did help. the images are now there :-) 01:19 VanessaE sorry for the frequent joins/parts for Shadowbot. I'm trying to fix it. 01:19 kaeza Sokomine, you are quite welcome :) 01:20 kaeza those screesnshots look very nice 01:20 kaeza in particular the snow covered stairs, fences, etc 01:21 garywhite Hi swift110 01:22 swift110 hey garywhite 01:23 kaeza the old snow texture looked better, IMHO :( 01:26 kaeza does snow really look that way? looks like white sand to me 01:27 Sokomine yes, it does. the new snow texture is not always ideal. moresnow just takes whatever snow texture is installed 01:28 longerstaff13 I kinda liked the old snow myself too 02:03 Lunchington Howdy 02:08 kaeza greetings 02:09 Lunchington just poking around minetest, heard of it but never really looked at it 02:09 Lunchington modding API is most interesting to me 02:13 swift110 hmm cool Lunchington 03:11 Lunchington swift110, yeah i admin a small gaming group (mostly modded MC) looking for something different 03:12 Lunchington something we can make our own. and settled on minetest. 03:13 garywhite If you're looking to mod for MT, take a look at the minetest modding book by rubenwardy 03:14 kaeza Lunchington, welcome to the dark side, we have cookies! 03:14 Lunchington garywhite, i read it through :) been browsing existing mods and code bases 03:14 Lunchington i am very familiar with lua, i used to maintain some WOW addons back in my younger days 03:15 Lunchington kaeza, I do love cookies 08:11 sfan5 Lunchington: make sure you don't expect a perfect mc clone :P many people have come here with that plan and leave because of the little things and small missing features they are used to 08:13 sfan5 Lunchington: also important difference: the modding api is waay more limited when you compare it to MC mods where you can just edit the code as you wish 08:13 sfan5 however that doesn't stop modders from writing huge & complicated mods 15:49 Out`Of`Control hi 15:50 Lunchington sfan5, I know I have looked at it pretty deeply and would take a fully realised API over rewriting a mod every single time the game updates like in MC :) 15:51 Lunchington sfan5, working around limitations is the best part for me 16:02 fireglow anybody else got arms that are stuck up in the air with the latest 3d_armor? 16:28 PR4061works time to visit floatlands 16:46 PR4061works sfan5: floatlands are nice for base building, very distant from kids at spawn, maximum of ores 16:46 sfan5 yup 16:46 PR4061works i hope servers will embrace it 16:49 PR4061works interesting caves in floatlands 16:49 PR4061works including grassy parts 16:49 PR4061works nice for etho style building in caves 16:51 PR4061works my next achievement will be growing a tree in such cave by mining mese and sand for light 17:06 IKRadulov Hello I am trying to make a function that regens hp with the minetest api . It does not trow any errors but it simply does not work can you check it : http://pastebin.com/DdB6ttb3 17:11 Krock IKRadulov, when should it regenerate the hp - and in what inverval? 17:12 jdrews I'm building 0.4.14 release from git on debian8. Anyone know how to get past this error while running make? make[2]: *** No rule to make target '/lib/x86_6​4-linux-gnu/libncurses.so.5', needed by 'bin/minetest'. Stop. 17:12 IKRadulov There is a chat command that I made for the player to sit . There I call it 17:12 IKRadulov I have not set a interval 17:14 IKRadulov @jbrews do you have ncurses 5 ? 17:15 jdrews I sure do. libncurses5, libncurses5-dev, libncursesw5, libncursesw5-dev 17:16 Calinou yeah, never got ncurses to build here :'( 17:16 Calinou I want it badly, it's so good :P 17:18 jdrews so I might have messed up some cmake arguments a while back. Following some old #minetest instructions I ran cmake with these arguements " 17:18 jdrews -DCURSES_USE_NCURSES=1 -DCURSES_INCLUDE_PATH="/usr/include/curses.h" -DCURSES_LIBRARY="/lib/x86_6​4-linux-gnu/libncurses.so.5" 17:18 jdrews Which by the way are wrong. It should be -DCURSES_USE_NCURSES=1 -DCURSES_INCLUDE_PATH="/usr/include/" -DCURSES_LIBRARY="/lib/x86_6​4-linux-gnu/libncurses.so.5" 17:19 IKRadulov why not see the build steps in Arch Linux minetest aur package . I have ncurses with the build . ldd : libncursesw.so.6 => /usr/lib/libncursesw.so.6 (0x00007fa789c48000) 17:19 jdrews @IKRadulov I will check that out. Thanks! 17:20 IKRadulov @jbrews my package is exectly minetest-git-leveldb 17:21 Calinou my AppImages now feature LevelDB :) but no ncurses :( 17:25 IKRadulov Wath is the difirence betwene betwene LevelDB and default backend ? 17:25 sfan5 jdrews: do not tell cmake where your ncurses is unless you need to 17:25 sfan5 overriding the curses autodetection will break in exactly this way 17:26 sfan5 IKRadulov: leveldb is mostly faster, especially with flash memory 17:26 IKRadulov nice 17:26 IKRadulov @Calinou you are a mod developer right ? 17:27 Calinou IKRadulov: yes but I don't work on my mods much anymore 17:27 Calinou they're part of minetest-mods collective 17:27 Calinou which maintains them 17:27 IKRadulov can you help me with my function ? 17:28 Calinou note, if you want health regeneration, you need to register your function per-step 17:28 Calinou register_globalstep or something 17:28 Calinou a step is 0.1s by default but it can be changed by server admin 17:29 IKRadulov Yea but I have a function witch plays the sit animation and then goes to the regegen function 17:30 IKRadulov i wan't the effect to be when i am sitting 17:30 Calinou you'll still need to use globalstep, I believe 17:30 Calinou and apply regeneration only when sitting 17:30 Calinou else it'll give you one HP but only when sitting once, not on regular intervals 17:30 Calinou I'm not sure if minetest.after() can be used too, maybe sfan5 can reply 17:31 IKRadulov when i use minetest.after in the function minetest lags a lot . 17:31 sfan5 dunno 17:31 sfan5 register_globalstep sounds more appropiate for this 17:40 BrandonReese I use minetest.after to regenerate hp while laying down. It could be the same for sitting. The function checks the animation and if it equals "sit" then it adds a certain amount to their HP. The function runs every 5 seconds or so. 17:42 IKRadulov nope in global step the hp is not changed at all 17:42 IKRadulov i insenred player:set_hp(9) while playing the standing animation and nothing 17:42 IKRadulov i will try that 17:47 BrandonReese IKRadulov, Something like this should work http://pastebin.com/wwDsaRXD 17:54 whitephoenix beerware best license 17:55 Krock https://tldrlegal.com/license/beerware-license 17:55 Krock going to use that soon 17:55 Krock sounds lovely 17:55 garywhite XD 17:56 Krock but there's no warranty disclaimer 17:56 whitephoenix just in, linus torvalds converts linux to use beerware license, drowns in beer at local bar 17:56 Krock o/ 17:57 IKRadulov briliant idea . but i don't have time now 17:57 Krock sudo apt-get install time 18:00 Calinou yeah, keep using MIT license 19:25 fireglow http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyxLTMMW8AAvwFN.jpg:orig :> 19:43 Axord Heh. 20:34 Allycat007 Where is OldCoder? 20:35 garywhite He's here 20:35 fireglow hi garywhite 20:35 garywhite Hello 20:37 Allycat007 OK am I allowed to send music from you tube? 20:37 Calinou Allycat007: send where? 20:37 Allycat007 To OldCoder 20:55 Allycat007 Can I send music from YouTube to OldCoder 20:57 Krock just do it, Allycat007 20:57 Allycat007 I can? 20:58 Allycat007 And I won't get in trouble Krock 20:59 fireglow now I want to see 20:59 Allycat007 See wut? 20:59 Krock you get in trouble for stealing golden earrings or robbing a bank - but not for sending someone a link 21:00 Allycat007 OK do u guys want to hear the music too? 21:00 Krock oh well, for some links you might also get some trouble 21:00 Allycat007 It's music from YouTube 21:01 kaeza but but, sharing is theft! the *AA said it! 21:01 Krock Allycat007, only if it's good music :P (because good is for everyone the same) (sarcasm) 21:01 kaeza Minetest is communist and evil 21:01 Allycat007 Like nothing inappropriate right? 21:02 kaeza also, greetings 21:02 Krock yes, if possible 21:02 Krock greetings, kaeza 21:03 Krock btw, you requested the same change in paramat's pull I made about 30 minutes earlier, kaeza 21:03 kaeza Krock, oh? 21:03 Krock *that I 21:03 kaeza Krock, sorry I missed that. mobile interface sucks 21:03 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1436#discussion_r90758040 21:04 Krock oh? github works for mobile? last time I tried (long time ago) it displayed a wrecked desktop version 21:04 Calinou it has a mobile site now but it lacks many features 21:04 Allycat007 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKIsUrfbiE0 21:05 kaeza I use Octodroid, but looks like it doesn't show line comments in the PR discussion view 21:05 Allycat007 Oops 21:05 Allycat007 Wrong one 21:06 kaeza nice, an update :| 21:06 Allycat007 https://www.youtube.com/watch?=MKlsUrfbiE0 21:06 kaeza "Este vídeo no está disponible. Disculpa las molestias." 21:07 Allycat007 Uugh stupid and thing 21:07 Krock !title 21:07 MinetestBot Krock: YouTube 21:08 Allycat007 Just look up come little children 21:10 Allycat007 Krock just look up come little children 21:17 kaeza https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqxnHl7Q4Rw 23:01 fireglow [b]2016-12-04[/b]: Updated minetestserver to 0.4.14-329-g8a7dc838, minetest_game to 0.4.14-182-gc5f11d7, and all mods 23:01 fireglow argh 23:03 Calinou [b][i][u]MERRY CHRISTMAS!!![/u][/i][/b] 23:10 kaeza http://www.bash.org/?949643 ;) 23:28 PR4061works Calinou: where? 23:31 Calinou PR4061works: [color=#ff0000]nowhere![/color] 23:38 ShadowNinja Huh, freenode's apparently opened up group registration. 23:45 LinuxGuy2020 If I have a server going and its NOT creative mode, and I grant people the world edit priv, will it utilize the blocks from there inventory or do they just get added to the world even if the player doesnt have enough? 23:46 fireglow will get added, when they use commands like //set 23:47 LinuxGuy2020 fireglow: DO the blocks get removed from player inventory or not? 23:48 fireglow they will just appear in the world 23:49 LinuxGuy2020 fireglow: ok thank you. Is there any way to change its behavior to have them removed from inventory or is it just a limitation of the worldedit mod?