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00:00 Brikooba mods which slow mapgen: moretrees glooptest
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00:16 Fixer captain obvious
00:16 Fixer :)
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00:21 angelo1123_ hey
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01:32 sarene hello
01:32 sarene i can't send messages to minetest-dev
01:32 sarene what do
01:36 thePalindrome The irc channel?
01:36 sarene yeah
01:36 thePalindrome Huh, you don't need voice to speak in there, what happens when you try?
01:37 sarene "Cannot send to channel: #minetest-dev"
01:37 sarene also, what do you mean voice?
01:37 sarene i'm using freenode like the link i found sent me to, is there another way to connect here?
01:37 swift110 hmm
01:37 thePalindrome Voice is a permission for irc, certain channels require Voice to speak
01:38 thePalindrome Also, the irc network is freenode, you *have* to connect here by definition :P
01:38 sarene never knew irc had voice
01:38 thePalindrome Yeah, most people don't use it
01:38 thePalindrome Ah, that's why
01:39 thePalindrome you're using the webchat
01:39 sarene oh, how should i connect to it then?
01:39 thePalindrome Using an actual irc client :P
01:39 sarene roight, i'm off to do that then
01:39 sarene thanks
01:39 thePalindrome Still odd though
01:39 thePalindrome /)
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01:45 sarene okay they rejected me and told me to go here
01:45 sarene i'm having problems with formspecs and i think it's just me being stupid
01:47 sarene i'm not sure how to put code in here...
01:50 sarene hmm, i tried something else and it worked, i think i know what's wrong with it now
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01:59 sarene okay no, from what i've found it's a problem with my formspec
01:59 sarene is there anything wrong with this: `list[context;inp;2,1;1,1]`
01:59 sarene i copies and pasted it from the docs
01:59 sarene furnace formspec line, just renamed src to inp
02:05 sarene i looked further into it and "fixed" it but it still doesn't work
02:05 sarene anything wrong with this: `list[current_name;inp;2,1;1,1]`
02:09 sarene uughhh, this happens every time i touch something new
02:09 sarene something goes wrong and nobody can/is willing to fix it
02:09 sarene i just want to make a furnace formspec ;-;
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02:30 sarene if anyone wants to help me by posting a valid, working furnace formspec then do so, i'll check the logs tomorrow but i have to go now
02:35 KOneJ I don't have mobile minetest. Been meaning to install Android-X86 in QEMU and try it out. Someone is asking me about how to configure and use a travelnet box on minetest mobile. How do you do that?
03:00 MinetestBot [git] Rui-Minetest -> minetest/minetest_game: sethome.get: Copy a return value 631f7f4 https://git.io/vX43i (2016-11-05T19:59:15-07:00)
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03:15 kaeza KOneJ, it's usually by right-clicking, which on Android is simulated with double tap
03:16 kaeza or whatever is used on Android to place blocks
03:36 KOneJ Thanks
03:42 kaeza ...
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04:32 paramat fireglow try adding 'is_ground_content = false' to your node def
04:33 paramat not sure it will help, but that stops overgenerating caves making holes in stuff
04:34 paramat 'nodes with resources' what exactly is this? 'default:stone with coal' etc ?
04:35 paramat also check if mods are doing this
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05:07 paramat selling missiles and explosives to the public is ridiculous, tradition is being used as an excuse for something unjustifiable
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05:08 Hijiri how else can we compete with the government's missiles and explosives when we stage a revolution?
05:35 hmmmm Need anti-tank missles?  We've got em!
05:35 hmmmm Flamethrowers?  Oh, yeah!
05:35 hmmmm No credit?  No problem!  No money down, same as cash.
05:35 hmmmm Shoot now - pay later!
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07:09 fireglow I'd pay good money to have the mesecon button not need a flat surface behind it to route the wire
07:10 fireglow and to be able to connect insulated mesecon directly to its holding block
07:20 OldCoder Hm
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07:33 fireglowl http://i.imgur.com/bkcLZXK.png :/
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07:36 cheapie fireglowl: As annoying as that can be, your case looks solvable by replacing both the lower unconnected mesecon and the air node above it with vertical mesecons (or mese blocks).
07:44 fireglow mmm, the problem I'm trying to solve is that I want to place a block where the 2nd (upper) vmesecon node would have to be
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08:01 fireglow paramat: Thank you for the hint, btw! I have added it to the nodespec.
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08:28 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Add 'acacia leaves simple' texture c7e2d59 https://git.io/vX4lw (2016-11-06T08:25:53Z)
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09:52 Brikooba How is tar harvested and used?
09:52 Brikooba what mods generate tar on the map?
09:59 Brikooba Are any mods providing high resolution textures/images ?
09:59 Brikooba I'm not talking about texture packs.  I am using the HDX pack.
10:00 Krock no, there are almost mo mods that have > 16x16px graphics
10:00 Krock *no mods
10:01 Krock because 16 is the default and not all modders are good at drawing I think
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10:19 fireglowl can I somehow make a mesecon signal only travel in one direction?
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10:26 Krock fireglow, use gates
10:26 Krock not bill gates. the logic gates.
10:26 fireglow alright, I'll put him back
10:27 Krock * fireglowl
10:48 fireglowl I'm an owl
10:48 fireglowl hoot hoot
10:48 Krock isn't FireGL one of Nvidia's cards?
10:49 Persi[m] FireGL is an old marketing term for ati workstation video cards
10:51 Krock ah okay
10:51 Persi[m] That's where the name fglrx came from
10:53 Persi[m] They continued selling them after the amd acquisition but I believe these days they call them firepro
10:59 Persi[m] Oh wait, looks like they renamed them again last month, now they call them radeon pro, I'm waiting to see what the marketing department comes up for next month
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11:42 fireglowl Krock:  but which gate? I am confused
11:42 Krock any. they're all unidirectional
11:46 fireglowl oh, ok
11:52 Krock \o/ BrandonReese
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12:08 agaran Persi[m]: well.. marketing dept ideas.. they should be forbidden..
12:12 Fixer /o/
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13:03 fireglowl when using  print() in Lua controllers, where does the output go?
13:06 fireglowl should be in the terminal. hmm. Maybe I'm using it wrong.
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13:16 luiz_ Hi guys!
13:17 Guest45240 How can I do to all players starts in the same place (lan game)
13:17 Calinou Guest45240: static_spawnpoint = x,y,z
13:18 Calinou in minetest.conf, while server is shut down
13:18 Calinou x,y,z are coordinates, eg. -150,20,66
13:18 Calinou you can see your coordinates in game by pressing F5, then looking at the top-left corner
13:18 Guest45240 Calinou: thank you so much!
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13:21 Persi[m] agaran: I get why they did it, FireGL made it look like they were expressly designed for OpenGL, and opengl is no longer the strong brand it was in the nineties. But it gets confusing as hell when you constantly rename your product lines
13:27 agaran yup..
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13:30 Guest45240 Calinou: One more question: This set is for all worlds in my server, if I want for a just especific world?
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13:55 Brikooba the HDX-512 texture pack has some 64px textures
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14:01 Brikooba perhaps they are icons. -- or some are
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14:34 Brikooba Unified Inventory would be nice if I could disable the things which are pure cheat to me.  I want bags and craft help.
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15:04 luizsab How can I set default items for new players, when they starts in the world?
15:07 Krock change the minetest.conf setting "initial_stuff" to something like "default:pick_steel,default:apple 99,default:wood 44"
15:07 luizsab Krock: Thank you!
15:08 Krock !next
15:08 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
15:08 luizsab Krock: Sorry, What's the meaning !next?
15:08 Krock it means that the next customer/question may now come
15:09 Krock you were at the front of this queue, now the next one comes
15:10 Krock you may also stand in the back of the queue if you have other questions ;)
15:10 luizsab Krock: oh! ok, I get it now
15:10 Krock !next
15:10 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
15:11 Krock :P
15:16 luizsab Already is my turn?
15:16 luizsab Is it possible setting up textures for clients in server?
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15:54 LiquidBugs !fubar
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16:15 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: MSVC: Generate debug information for release builds (#4674) ad4bf2c https://git.io/vX41C (2016-11-06T11:14:36-05:00)
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16:20 Krock thePalindrome, because it is what I've installed for years. I'm used to it
16:21 Krock moved here due being offtopic in #-dev
16:23 sfan5 Krock: xfce with windows xp theme :D
16:23 Krock lol, yeah. Adding that to my list :)
16:23 Krock the problem is that there are so many other, amazing styles
16:24 Volkj on xfce had to turn back to adwaita, every gtk3 update messed up greybird
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16:26 thePalindrome ah
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16:53 Brikooba My favorite craft guide no longer works with current dev (head) minetest.  Now I must find a new one.  http://cornernote.github.io/minetest-craft_guide/
16:53 Brikooba Someone can advise me (or us) ?  Unified Inventory has cheats which I don't wan.
16:53 Brikooba want.
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16:56 dKhOIChxfkB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EsJLNGVJ7E & https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/15893, http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us​a-election-foundation-idUSKBN12Z2SL & https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3774 (ctrl+f qatar) - please don't let these be buried
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16:57 fireglow Brikooba: what kind of cheats?
16:59 Brikooba Maybe https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=11&t=14088
16:59 Krock Brikooba, turn off the setting "secure.enable_security"
16:59 Brikooba fireglow: it has a giveme button.
16:59 Krock that was something that changed in the dev builds
17:00 fireglow Brikooba: revoke the give priv from players
17:00 Brikooba Krock: I already have that off for compassgps
17:00 Brikooba That (revoke give) could work. I'll try.
17:01 Krock oh well, then I think it's better to look out for another mod if you don't have an error message saying what went wrong with the crafting guide
17:07 Brikooba Strange,  '/revoke singleplayer give' or '/revoke singleplayer ban' had no effect. I still have 'give' privilege.  Does revoke not work in singleplayer mode?
17:08 thePalindrome It should
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17:10 Krock I noticed this problem too. For some reason it does not allow to revoke when you've got all privileges
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17:11 thePalindrome Did you set the name in minetest.conf?
17:12 thePalindrome name = singleplayer would irrevocably grant singleplayer everything
17:13 Brikooba I deleted the world and made a new one.  I get 'give' without asking for it.  'name=' is only set in my ~/.minetest/minetest.conf and is set to my multiplayer name -- not 'singleplayer'.
17:15 thePalindrome Huh
17:15 Brikooba I have many mods installed. Maybe 1 is doing it.  I'll try mintest game.
17:19 Brikooba 'minimal' game with no mods also automatically gives 'give'.
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17:35 Brikooba In advanced settings, it shows server flag 'dungeons', but UI does not permit me to erase it.
17:35 Brikooba Server -> MapGen
17:39 Brikooba How do I enable the minimap in singleplayer?  "Minimap disabled by server."
17:39 Brikooba I'm playing the Git HEAD version, so it could be a bug
17:39 Brikooba (or incomplete feature)
17:50 sfan5 hm thats weird
17:51 sfan5 minimap worked on git last time i tested
17:52 sfan5 also you can remove "dungeons" when editing the file manually
17:59 LiquidBugs Brikooba: use crafting guide by jp
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18:09 Brikooba LiquidBugs: thanks. I posted the link to his earlier in the chat. I tried it now, after figuring out how to acquire the book.
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18:11 bcndavid Hi, i'm a teacher and i need help about install mods, enemies, maps etc I'm from barcelona :D
18:11 Krock wasn't there a famous song about the word "barcelona"?
18:12 Krock ontopic: There's something on the wiki
18:12 Krock !wiki installing mods
18:12 MinetestBot "Prior to installing any mod, please make sure that you have received it from someone you trust." - http://wiki.minetest.net/installing_mods
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18:18 Krock ping bcndavid
18:19 bcndavid thanks
18:20 Krock !next
18:20 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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18:37 Persi[m] Krock: I can only think of this one, but other than it being Freddie mercury it isn't quite what you'd call a famous song https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pHkrvwXX4sg
18:40 Krock hmm, maybe it was another city. I only remember pieces of the melody
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21:14 billiontrillion Hi
21:14 billiontrillion Calinou: is there an IRC channel for godot?
21:14 billiontrillion oh wait, I could search that myself
21:15 billiontrillion yeah, it's #godotengine, sorry
21:17 red-001 minetest doesn't even use godot.......
21:19 Calinou red-001: I'm a Godot contributor :p
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21:20 Persi[m] I'm not, but I once made a silly flappy bird clone using it :!
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23:42 LiquidBugs there is flappy bird for C64
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23:56 namespace So I want to write a mod, but I'd like to know it doesn't already exist first.
23:57 namespace Basically it would be a modification of this money/economy mod that uses statistics to determine the price of items instead of centrally managed economics. (YUCK!) https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=11&t=14101
23:57 namespace I'd probably add in a market exchange thing too, so that players can make buy/sell orders for certain items.

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