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00:06 Hijiri currently trying to merge two stacks with different metadata results in combining them and taking one of the stacks metadata right?
00:06 Hijiri item stacks
00:06 Hijiri assuming the two stacks are for the same item type, and they can all fit in one stack
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00:10 Hijiri oh, no
00:10 Hijiri it already checks if metadata is different
00:10 Hijiri that's good, I was hoping that was the case
00:11 Hijiri that means it's safe to have items with metadata and stack_max > 1
00:12 Hijiri maybe I am just underestimating the state of the MT API
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00:21 kaeza is that a new feature?
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00:58 Hijiri It's a feature that's at least as old as the source code I looked at
00:58 Hijiri for some reason I thought merging two stacks would work regardless of metadata and erase one of them
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01:35 MinetestBot [git] Nestorfish -> minetest/minetestmapper: CMake: Fix setting default value for CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE d83f0d9 https://git.io/vPEOt (2016-10-11T03:34:33+02:00)
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05:17 gorilla Hi I have created an account on MariaDB My Portal and used the once off password. I tried setting a new password only to be told that I need to provide the current password, for which I don't have one.
05:19 gorilla sorry wrong channel... it's been a long day
05:30 MinetestBot [git] Rogier-5 -> minetest/minetest: Disable cmake message concerning WIN32 on non-windows systems a4a9ee9 https://git.io/vPE4n (2016-10-11T07:29:04+02:00)
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05:34 MinetestBot [git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Add missing languages to the settings b6569f1 https://git.io/vPE4u (2016-10-11T07:32:47+02:00)
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09:13 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Ada Lovelace Day! 😃
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10:26 Buttatoes JamesTait: happy Lovelace day
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16:23 whitephoenix https://youtu.be/zD0KEqCR9F0 made a (slightly) less stupid mod
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16:28 Krock whitephoenix, three things are missing
16:28 Krock 1) trolololo
16:28 Krock 2) never gonna give you up
16:28 Krock 4) staying alive
16:28 Krock 5) #3
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16:28 whitephoenix I can add those
16:29 whitephoenix soon as I fix my git problems...
16:29 PR0000 I though I was going to get rick rolled
16:30 PR0000 spheretest is awesome https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
16:31 whitephoenix ugh git makes me so angry
16:31 whitephoenix its this same crap every single time
16:31 Krock PR0000, I know an URL that ends with Q
16:31 Krock I bet I've already seen this like 20 times :P
16:32 Krock 21 times *
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16:34 Krock whitephoenix, it's a bit confusing that you also included Simon & Garfunkel's Sound of Silence
16:35 Krock I don't see the connection to life/death there
16:35 Krock also, the link in the video description is broken
16:36 PR0000 demo of a new mod I made https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO9XlQrEt2Y
16:39 swift110 hey krock
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16:45 whitephoenix wow great mod
16:46 whitephoenix the 3d models are super realistic
16:46 garywhite YouTube link is to a video of Never Gonna Give You Up
16:47 whitephoenix I love the skeleton gifs I put on my website
16:50 Krock hey swift110, how are you?
16:51 rubenwardy lol, my sound was muted
16:51 rubenwardy rick roll averted
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16:53 garywhite Why does everyone think it's funny right now to rickroll everyone?
16:54 Krock because it's funny. They have the hope to see an amazing mod (or something similar) but get this nice video instead
16:55 rubenwardy Rick ashley did an AMA. This was one of his answers: http://i.imgur.com/qVlIs0s.png
16:55 rubenwardy ~g rick ashley ask me anything reddit
16:55 ShadowBot rubenwardy: Error: invalid version
16:55 rubenwardy ~web g rick ashley ask me anything reddit
16:57 Krock https://www.reddit.com/r/Music/comments/56cdgm/a​ma_im_really_rick_astley_i_swear_and_to/d8i933q
16:57 Krock ^ rubenwardy
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17:00 rubenwardy thanks
17:02 Krock !next
17:02 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
17:03 swift110 im great Krock and you
17:03 Krock me too :)
17:05 garywhite !next
17:05 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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17:05 swift110 good
17:05 swift110 lunch is great
17:06 whitephoenix gotta finish my richard stallman mod now
17:07 T4im any server owners here by any chance running the profiler with builtin instrumentation for more than a day on a busy server?
17:11 whitephoenix I haven't played with hud much, can you animate things or use animated gifs?
17:11 swift110 lol
17:13 MinetestBot [git] red-001 -> minetest/minetest: Add a button for disabling all mods to world config. (#3900) 4f684b5 https://git.io/vPuQn (2016-10-12T03:11:38+10:00)
17:15 PR3900 FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:15 PR3900 I can change my name
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17:20 whitephoenix I need to learn lua better at some point
17:23 rubenwardy lua pil is quite good for learning the finer points
17:23 rubenwardy and not badly written
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17:24 Krock red-001, there's a duplicate line but nvm, it's merged
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17:37 whitephoenix http://i.imgur.com/qWdKZHd.png super serious mods
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17:44 Krock whitephoenix, Depends: christianity
17:48 agaran Krock: :) hello
17:48 Krock hi agaran
17:50 agaran Krock: tried industrial looking factory bridges.. awesome
17:50 Krock ^^
17:52 agaran not added to my valleys (yet probably) but I fixed bridges a bit
18:03 swift110 wow
18:04 swift110 I may play minetest today
18:04 garywhite Cool
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18:31 whitephoenix can I somehow hide nodebox outlines? I tried making a jackolantern but the lines kinda ruin it http://i.imgur.com/QKj8FJg.png
18:33 whitephoenix actually I probably just need to make a mesh, right?
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18:33 swift110 whose gonna play minetest today
18:33 garywhite me
18:33 whitephoenix I am
18:35 whitephoenix Anyways, the /r/linuxmasterrace / #linuxmasterrace @ snoonet group might be hosting a minetest server, are there any linux users that would be interested in joining?
18:36 garywhite I don't use Linux
18:36 whitephoenix eh its not really a requirement
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18:41 T4im in minetest no one knows, whether you connect with a good, commercial grade, powerful and easy-to-use system, or with that weird windows stuff there ;-)
18:41 T4im except your client keeps crashing; that's usually a dead give-away
18:41 * T4im hides from the angry windows mob coming his way
18:42 swift110 ok cool garywhite and whitephoenix
18:42 swift110 garywhite, why dont you use linux lol
18:43 Persi[m] Ever played heroes of newerth? For some reason the windows client takes about twice the time to load a game
18:43 swift110 im gonna build a house today
18:44 Persi[m] That makes it very easy to tell the windows users apart, but honestly, the fact that they are 99% of the player base makes it even easier
18:44 garywhite My parents won't allow me to get Linux on my PC, so I use Windows 7 (still not bad, beats Vista)
18:44 T4im Persi[m]: well in minetest that's not as easy; because 93% turned out to be from mobile clients instead .D
18:44 T4im sfan published some stats recently
18:45 swift110 windows is %99 of the player base of minetest?
18:45 T4im no
18:45 swift110 I have minetest on my android phone actually lol
18:45 swift110 garywhite, man sorry dude
18:45 Persi[m] Wow garywhite that's outright evil. Are your parents members of the borg collective? :)
18:45 garywhite It's fine. I'm kinda used to Windows anyway
18:45 * swift110 says I would cry to if that happened to me
18:46 swift110 Windows takes up uneccesary resources
18:46 garywhite It's just that nobody in my family knows anything about how to use Linux but my dad knows a lot about Windows PCs (except 8.1/10, not his cup of tea)
18:47 * twoelk sort of stopped fiddling with the internals of windows after win98
18:48 twoelk it simply stopped being fun
18:48 Persi[m] I never quite managed to understand how any Windows version actually worked, it's like black magic under the hood, and everybody seems to treat it like that
18:48 swift110 lol
18:49 swift110 garywhite, you can't use Linux in dual-boot or virtualbocx
18:49 Persi[m] Even the people who are supposed to know about it seem to be clueless as to the actual reasons
18:49 swift110 virtualbox?
18:49 garywhite I tried running Ubuntu in VirtualBox, wouldn't load right
18:50 agaran garywhite: you can do that.. just need some work sometimes.. graphic emulation is crappy and cranky
18:50 swift110 you have to specify if its 32 bit or 64
18:50 agaran yep..
18:50 swift110 the menus on virtualbox are pretty easy but sometimes you can miss something if not paying attention which is something I am prone to do
18:51 garywhite Same here
18:51 swift110 granted I have used virtualbox so many times that now its something I love so much
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18:51 red-001 I don't use linux because the graphics driver support is horrible
18:51 swift110 It really helps when you have plenty of ram
18:51 nm0i Weaklings
18:51 swift110 boy does that open doors
18:51 garywhite Another problem, my PC is a laptop with 4GB RAM
18:52 swift110 wow garywhite
18:52 swift110 how old is it?
18:52 garywhite It's only maybe 5 years old
18:52 garywhite (HP EliteBook 8460, quad-core i5)
18:52 swift110 oh If you could at least double that it would really help
18:53 swift110 its about the same age as my pc at home
18:53 swift110 but mine can take 16 gb ram at least which is something I will do eventually
18:54 garywhite I can run W98 SE/W2K in VPC (cause Win7 Pro gives you a free copy of XP to use in Virtual PC)
18:55 swift110 lol
18:55 swift110 dude do some odd jobs and earn some money and upgrade the ram at least please
18:55 T4im red-001: that actually improved extremely the last years; there's barely a need anymore running the proprietary drivers, because the kernel included onces have gotten that good
18:56 T4im ones*
18:56 garywhite I'm sure I could see if my dad has some RAM chips, he's got a box of old ATA hard drives in the den
18:56 T4im red-001: assuming nvidia or amd chipset anyway :)
18:56 T4im amd/ati
18:56 swift110 I dont think her will have recent ram sticks
18:56 swift110 he
18:57 red-001 well I gave up on linux around a year ago
18:57 red-001 I doubt much has changed
18:57 red-001 Ubuntu/mint broke after every single update
18:58 red-001 and they are suppose to be the user friendly distros
18:58 swift110 hmm you can take 16 gb ram in that laptop garywhite
18:58 garywhite No, he's got a Corsaie 4GB DDR3 chip upstairs from a barebones kit he built for my grandparents, who had the slowest XP computer ever
18:58 T4im the proprietary drivers indeed broke a lot; probably still do
18:58 swift110 red-001, I don't understand why you have had so much trouble with linux
18:58 swift110 I mean back in 2010 all I did was take a cd pop it in and dualbooted on a crappy p4 and I was good to go
18:59 swift110 this was all knowing nothing about linux whatsoever
18:59 red-001 dualbooting is easy, getting it to be stable is hard
18:59 swift110 dude I had 1 gb of ram and that included the gpu
19:00 swift110 I dual-boot on several machines
19:00 swift110 on this t420 I have windows on one hdd and linux on the ssd
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19:01 red-001 I don't really enjoy tossing a coin to decide if my screen will display anything meaningful
19:02 red-001 I did have linux mint on my other computer but that broke and the hard drive seems to be failing now
19:02 T4im understandable; but if you can run a live-cd (knoppix for example) and the kernel is ok with your computer and hardware; then you can get it to work everywhere
19:02 red-001 yeah
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19:02 red-001 I have a few live cd's around in case windows breaks
19:03 T4im highly doubt you can get the hard drive failing with linux, unless you do it intentionally :D
19:03 T4im but some drives simply don't live long :/
19:03 Out`Of`Control gnu/linux broke your hdd? :-D
19:03 Out`Of`Control pitty
19:04 T4im nah
19:04 swift110 tre
19:04 swift110 video killed the radio star
19:04 swift110 anyway that belongs in linux lol
19:04 swift110 i am going to start the gam
19:08 red-001 T4im not saying it was caused by linux
19:09 red-001 It was a 300gb hard drive so I doesn't really matter
19:09 red-001 It*
19:09 swift110 lol
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19:15 rubenwardy whitephoenix: change the collision box
19:15 rubenwardy I believe
19:16 whitephoenix alright I'll check later
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19:19 swift110 ok
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19:49 red-001 is the server that was talked about before up?
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20:14 SaKeL hi all
20:14 Megaf !server Red
20:14 MinetestBot Megaf: Red Cat Creative | 51.254.216.93 | Clients: 7/30, 4/14 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 7ms
20:14 SaKeL can someone help me with particlespawner ?
20:14 SaKeL have a small question
20:17 Megaf SaKeL: you just wasted 3 lines. You could have asked in a single line, Are you sure you want to waste more lines?
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20:17 SaKeL sorry was installing another IRC client in the meanwhile :)
20:18 SaKeL i am adding particlespawner on node construct, but not players can see the particles
20:18 SaKeL not even me after i login / logout
20:19 SaKeL so i guess only logged players can see them after the node construct
20:19 SaKeL if you login after that ... you will not see them
20:19 SaKeL weird
20:19 SaKeL maybe i do something wrong
20:20 SaKeL *not all players can see the particles
20:21 red-001 !server just test s
20:21 MinetestBot red-001: @test@   JUST TEST 2 | 23.28.87.79:30002 | Clients: 19/53, 19/42 | Version: 0.4.14-403dada / just_test_tribute | Ping: 115ms
20:21 red-001 !server just test
20:21 MinetestBot red-001: @test@   JUST TEST 2 | 23.28.87.79:30002 | Clients: 19/53, 19/42 | Version: 0.4.14-403dada / just_test_tribute | Ping: 115ms
20:21 red-001 !server just test server
20:21 MinetestBot red-001: No results
20:21 red-001 !server just a test
20:21 MinetestBot red-001: No results
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20:22 Krock weed? weed. WEED!
20:22 T4im SaKeL: never ask to ask; just ask
20:23 T4im :)
20:23 Megaf did anyone say weed!?
20:23 Megaf where?
20:23 SaKeL haha
20:23 Megaf Give me the green green, some of the Dutch stuff
20:23 SaKeL thx T4im
20:23 Megaf I wanna puff puff
20:23 SaKeL but can someone help ?
20:24 Krock particlespawner?
20:24 SaKeL i see particles and after i logout/login i dont see them... i have to construct the node again ...then i can see them
20:24 SaKeL Krock..yes
20:24 Krock perhaps they aren't saved in the map
20:24 Krock but I'm not sure
20:24 T4im yea, that would be reasonable
20:24 T4im your assumption i mean
20:25 SaKeL when im logged in with 2 players... only the playor who didnt logout can see them
20:25 SaKeL the player who logout and then login cant see them
20:25 Krock that's a bug then
20:25 T4im did you add a particle or a particle spawner?
20:25 SaKeL same what Wuzzy said :)
20:26 Krock "Particlespawner data is not sent to client on join"
20:26 SaKeL but im hoping that i just forgot to set some param
20:26 Krock generally, all people should see it as long it's active
20:27 SaKeL "Particlespawner data is not sent to client on join" what  is this ?
20:27 Krock SaKeL, does it also happen in newer, -dev builds?
20:27 SaKeL bug report ?
20:27 SaKeL yes i have daily builds
20:27 rubenwardy !mod weed
20:27 MinetestBot rubenwardy: weed mod [weed] by RAPHAEL - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=670
20:27 rubenwardy Megaf, Krock, SaKeL
20:27 Krock Yeah, bug report if there's not one about it yet
20:27 T4im why need a mod? i sold farming:weed on landrush, very succesfully so
20:27 Krock rubenwardy, highlight yourself too :P
20:27 savePR4530 weed... hmmm
20:28 savePR4530 i was thinking about drugs for a second
20:28 SaKeL hi rubenwardy
20:28 Krock T4im, but it wasn't flammable
20:28 savePR4530 drugs in minetest, interesting
20:28 T4im no, just garden weeds :P
20:28 BrandonReese !server landrush
20:28 MinetestBot BrandonReese: Landrush | 209.141.35.227:32000 | Clients: 1/20, 1/2 | Version: 0.4.14 / landrush | Ping: 134ms
20:29 T4im drugs, why would anyone think of drugs around rainbows and a jamaica flaired bar?
20:29 Krock the good old landrush server?
20:29 rubenwardy the drug system in rimworld is interesting
20:29 BrandonReese Yep, ressurected the map from however many years ago it was that I originally shut it down
20:29 rubenwardy I personally don't touch it
20:29 SaKeL ok thanks guys... i think i will try github bug report
20:29 rubenwardy apart fomr beer
20:29 T4im BrandonReese: old players seem to miss home privs btw :D
20:29 rubenwardy !title http://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Drugs
20:29 Krock oh nice. If we only had the old community back..
20:29 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Drugs - RimWorld Wiki
20:29 red-001 why not grant it to everyone on join?
20:29 T4im Krock: you'd be surprised how many of the old folks already turned up again
20:30 BrandonReese I thought I fixed that, I'll check it out.
20:30 Krock T4im, hehe. The hiding skills in Minetest are always surprising
20:33 rgh can anyone here tell me about the player_textures mod?
20:34 rgh and if it works with current version of minetest
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20:43 Krock rgh, create a texture which ends with the target player name
20:43 Krock and yes, minetest is backwards compatible
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20:49 rgh thanks Krock, I've done that & yet am getting error messages
20:49 rgh ERROR[Main]: generateImage(): Could not load image "player_personX.png" while building texture.
20:49 Krock are you "personX"?
20:50 Krock alright. that actually can't be because the mod checks if the file exists
20:51 Krock you're using the version from pilzadam, right?
20:51 rgh that error appears on the screen of other players when personX joins
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20:53 Krock but you're using the player_textures from PilzAdam, right?
20:53 rgh yes
20:53 rgh https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=11&t=3587
20:53 Krock if the server is on windows I'd see the problem
20:54 rgh I'm assuming the link given at the top of that thread is to the latest version
20:54 rgh yes, server is windows
20:54 Krock check for upper and lowercase. It must be 1:1 correct
20:55 Krock (of the player texture)
20:56 rgh yep, case matches exactly as far as image files = player name is concerned
20:56 rgh player = personX
20:56 Krock koay, now it starts to become strange
20:56 rgh image file  = player_personX.png
20:57 rgh on the server, the images are in:
20:58 rgh minetest/mods/player_textures/textures
20:58 Krock that's all right. Restarting minetestserver didn't help?
20:59 Krock (minetestserver == minetest itself)
21:00 Krock the error you got means that the texture does not exist in any texture pack or mod. But the fact that it throws an error means that the file exists
21:00 Krock did you save the image correctly?
21:01 Krock 32x64 pixels
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21:05 rgh just testing a server restart & checking image size......
21:09 rgh I think a server restart has done it
21:10 Krock d'uh. Not a whole server restart. Just minetestserver
21:10 rgh thanks, I thought I'd already done that but I guess not
21:11 rgh yes, just the minetest server
21:11 Krock ah good. Problem solved?
21:11 rgh solved
21:11 Krock !next
21:11 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
21:11 rgh thanks for your help
21:11 Krock no problem ;)
21:11 rgh I'm having a lot of fun with this game :)
21:13 Krock just keep testing mods. There's a lot to discover
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21:21 sfan5 !mod mobs
21:21 MinetestBot sfan5: Mobs Redo [mobs] by TenPlus1 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9917
21:24 red-001 !mod tnt
21:24 MinetestBot red-001: TNT [tnt] by PilzAdam - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2902
21:24 red-001 !mod chatcommands
21:25 MinetestBot red-001: More chatcommands [more_chatcommands] by red-001 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13997
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22:14 kaeza_ !mod wiki
22:14 MinetestBot kaeza_: Wiki Mod [wiki] by kaeza - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=6492
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22:17 kaeza Irrlicht textareas suck
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22:25 DI3HARD139 Question: Has anyone here performed tests on if there are any performance gains from running a Dedicated Server in a virtual environment vs a baremetal environment?
22:25 DI3HARD139 or losses
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22:32 KoolPumpkin test
22:33 red-001 mine
22:36 * red-001 hoped someone would say test
22:36 KoolPumpkin :D
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23:01 * DI3HARD139 heads off to perform test
23:02 DI3HARD139 s
23:15 MinetestBot [git] bas080 -> minetest/minetest_game: Store registered plant on namespace 78311a2 https://git.io/vPzXf (2016-10-12T00:14:11+01:00)
23:23 Persi[m] DI3HARD139: tell us the results when you have them, I'm interested
23:25 DI3HARD139 Will do
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23:35 rubenwardy anyone here speak spanish?
23:41 Bukki Hey, anyone can tell me how far Mobs spawning away from Players or where I can look that value up? Just depending on loaded Map Blocks?
23:41 rubenwardy some spanish person is complaining that the mod titles and descriptions are in english
23:41 DI3HARD139 lmfao
23:42 DI3HARD139 Mobs spawn generally within 4-6 chunks from each player from what I've observed
23:42 rubenwardy may just reply with "No hablo espanial" or whatever
23:42 rubenwardy fuck customer service / PR
23:42 whitephoenix I speak spanish extremely poorly
23:42 T4im they should be clearly german, with the amount of germans in minetest
23:42 Bukki xD
23:42 T4im isn't that richtig, bukki?
23:42 DI3HARD139 I'm with ya ruben
23:43 Bukki Yeah, totally richtig T4im. :D
23:43 whitephoenix ugh xfce-panel is frozen
23:43 rubenwardy xfce-panel4 -r
23:43 * DI3HARD139 starts installing VMWare ESXI6u2
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23:44 Bukki thanks, but you don't know that value for sure? Just observation?
23:44 rubenwardy actually, google translate may be mistaken
23:44 whitephoenix it often is
23:44 DI3HARD139 Thats just from what I've observed
23:44 Bukki okay. However helps. Thanks.
23:45 rubenwardy They wrote: Este juego esta' mas trancado al entrar .es una caca dura
23:45 rubenwardy Google translated as "this game is more .co.uk locked in entering a hard poop
23:45 rubenwardy +"
23:46 whitephoenix trancado: 1. A small harpoon for catching eels. (n)
23:46 whitephoenix thats great
23:46 rubenwardy trancado
23:46 rubenwardy shut in; locked; stuck
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23:48 rubenwardy their review title was "El juego mas trancado q mi caca dura." if that helps
23:50 whitephoenix I should make a halloween mod
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23:50 rubenwardy talk to Megaf, whitephoenix
23:50 rubenwardy I think it's him that's doing one
23:51 whitephoenix https://github.com/Megaf/halloween_mod looks like it
23:51 Persi[m] rubenwardy: my Spanish isn't that good, what does "trancado" stand for?
23:51 rubenwardy well, I found this: http://www.spanishdict.com/translate/trancado
23:51 whitephoenix maybe I'll make a way to remove -master from mod zip files
23:52 whitephoenix because I'm lazy
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23:53 whitephoenix uh what
23:53 whitephoenix all the files in that repo are blank
23:53 whitephoenix all the lua files I should say
23:55 whitephoenix or I could finish something for once http://i.imgur.com/B3pKi4N.png
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23:57 garywhite whitephoenix and rubenwardy: Megaf is working on one, and Shara is working on one as well
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