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[git] tenplus1 -> minetest/minetest_game: Tnt: Various optimisations 6fdfd25 https://git.io/vPBNi (2016-10-10T03:16:41+01:00) |
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Jeija |
red-001, no problem at all. Thank you very much for the contribution! |
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Krock |
moin Jeija :) |
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_Megaf |
Split again!? Really!? |
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_Megaf |
Every single day now |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all! Happy Monday, and please spare a thought for those in need of support on World Mental Health Day. 👋 |
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namach |
hello again guys |
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namach |
i need a little help... i have build something on a server but i want to keep it on the local machine... |
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namach |
i tried to set local map saving in the minetest.conf but no result |
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namach |
any ideas? |
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sfan5 |
you set 'enable_local_map_saving = true' in minetest.conf? |
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namach |
yes |
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namach |
nothing actually happened (i am using linux mint) |
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namach |
i thought at least the client would tell me it is saving the world or something like it |
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sfan5 |
hme |
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sfan5 |
what's your minetest version? |
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namach |
0.4.14 |
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sfan5 |
then it should definitely work |
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everamzah |
~/.minetest/worlds/servername |
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sfan5 |
can you run minetest from the terminal and see whether it says anything? |
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everamzah |
is where it should end up. |
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namach |
i am not very familiar with linux but i noticed that the executable file and the other files of the game are in different locations (i guess this is normal) |
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sfan5 |
yes that's normal |
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sfan5 |
which minetest.conf file did you edit? |
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namach |
how to run it in terminal? follow the path of the file? |
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namach |
i found only one minetest.conf file. actually there is second but it has been downloaded with some mod and is separated from rest of the game |
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namach |
everamzah: i don't see "worlds" folder in the minetest folder |
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namach |
i found the minetest folder in: usr/share/minetest |
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everamzah |
ingame you can type /set enable_local_world_saving, and see whether it's true |
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everamzah |
not there, it'll save in your user home directory |
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everamzah |
in a folder called ~/.minetest/worlds. /usr/share/minetest would be for system files, and isn't writable |
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everamzah |
unless you play minetest as root user ^_^ |
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namach |
writing what you said ingame responded in: "you don't have permission to run this command" |
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namach |
i don't play as root... but to edit the minetest.conf i opened the folder as root |
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everamzah |
oh right it's a public server. it'd be the ~/.minetest/minetest.conf file. you could also adjust that setting in the settings tab->advanced |
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everamzah |
i'd start a singleplayer world, and see where it's located (should be ~/.minetest/worlds) and also type that /set enable_local_map_saving, ensuring it's true, to start |
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sfan5 |
namach: you don't need to edit any file as root |
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sfan5 |
you need to edit ~/.minetest/minetest.con |
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sfan5 |
*conf |
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namach |
ok, we made a discovery... i am changing wrong conf file... |
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namach |
in the game settings tab it is already set to "Enable" |
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namach |
i see that in the "worlds" folder there is a new folder with the name of the server i want to save |
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namach |
now if we assume that i have saved something, how would i open the saved world? |
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sfan5 |
make sure to disabled the setting again |
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sfan5 |
then open the world in singleplayer |
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namach |
enable_local_map_saving = false? |
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namach |
will i see the world in the single player menu automatically or i should import it somehow |
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newbie |
is the folder empty except for the map.sqlite? |
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namach |
yes |
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newbie |
you might have to add a file that specifies a game to use |
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namach |
just did it and it works :) |
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namach |
thank you so much sfan5 everamzah newbie :) |
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everamzah |
oh good to hear |
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* twoelk |
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twoelk |
what server did yoy copy namach? |
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Krock |
twoelk, your client identifies you. Not the server. |
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twoelk |
ah, so I havn't set up this client correctly - of course I havn't when I think about it ;-D |
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Buttatoes |
has a scuba mod ever been attempted? |
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Krock |
!mod scuba |
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MinetestBot |
Krock: Scuba Helmet [scuba] by jordan4ibanez - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=15376 |
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Krock |
yes. |
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Krock |
^ Buttatoes |
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sfan5 |
!server addr:179.76.117.19 |
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sfan5: | 179.76.117.19 | Clients: 1/15, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.13 / villagecraftpocketeditiongame | Ping: 405ms |
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sfan5 |
^ this is what happens when shitty android clients leave server_announce=1 enabled |
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Krock |
+1 for the longest subgame name ever seen |
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Krock |
looks like he's not playing in a router network |
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sfan5 |
nah https://github.com/minetest/master-server/issues/11 |
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Krock |
wow, that's way longer |
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sfan5 |
oh look whoever was playing got guests |
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sfan5 |
!server addr:179.76.117.19 |
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sfan5: | 179.76.117.19 | Clients: 2/15, 1/2 | Version: 0.4.13 / villagecraftpocketeditiongame | Ping: 305ms |
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sfan5 |
looks like the server's gone now |
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Krock |
yeah. Timed out |
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IhrFussel |
agaran, hello =) Seems to work so far...the old world and the same world but with deleted map file are separate worlds now and I can switch between them via command |
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IhrFussel |
And players can add their most important building via another command...then I review them and decide if I copy them over to the new world |
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anddam |
hello, while using the zip archive from minetest_game github page I get ".minetest/games/minetest_game/mods/default/mapgen.lua:1471: attempt to call field 'get_mapgen_setting' (a nil value)" |
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anddam |
I see get_mapgen_setting is replacing get_mapgen_params, but why is that error happening? do I have a too old version? I'm using 0.4.14 |
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sfan5 |
doesn't the minetest package come with minetest_game? |
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IhrFussel |
anddam, it's definitely not the version..0.4.14 is the most recent |
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sfan5 |
in any case: you can't use 0.4.14-dev minetest_game with 0.4.14 minetest |
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sfan5 |
us this if you really need to: |
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sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/archive/0.4.14.zip |
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anddam |
by -dev you mean the master branch snapshot? |
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anddam |
I see the point |
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anddam |
got 0.4.14 from githb releases |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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sfan5 |
but whereever you got minetest from should really include minetest_game |
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anddam |
it's the distro package, void linux |
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anddam |
yep, confirmed it doesn't ship minetest_game and there's no separate package for it |
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sfan5 |
make sure to complain to the maintainer |
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agaran |
Hello |
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red-001 |
it seems that part of the HTTPFetchRequest api is not documented |
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red-001 |
how is the request formated and how is the response data formated? |
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red-001 |
is it a table? |
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agaran |
I would try to fetch some mod using it and go from there.. |
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red-001 |
nvm it's just in a diffrent part of the api doc |
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whitephoenix |
https://vid.me/GhLz all of the mods I make are super useful |
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sfan5 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: free software is software that respects the users freedom - vidme |
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sfan5 |
wonderful |
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jin_xi |
whitephoenix: its glorious but missing a hurd of gnus |
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whitephoenix |
I can fix that (later) |
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Birgit |
Hello everybody ... is there a command inside of minetest to find out what users are online? |
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sfan5 |
/status |
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Birgit |
ah okay ... thanks @sfan5 |
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blerttt |
is there a way to quick find out what biome i am in? |
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garywhite |
Not to my knowledge |
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whitephoenix |
blerttt, compare it to this I guess http://wiki.minetest.net/Biomes |
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whitephoenix |
someone could probably make a mod for that |
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Fritz01 |
Hello |
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Out`Of`Control |
hi |
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Fritz01 |
Sorry if this is out-topic, but how can i use a XMPP client? |
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Out`Of`Control |
you would need an xmpp account |
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Fritz01 |
How to make it? |
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Out`Of`Control |
on some servers you can register on connect |
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Out`Of`Control |
http://www.jabberes.org/servers/servers_by_times_online.html |
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Fritz01 |
every server is suitable, right? |
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_Megaf |
Fritz01: got GMail? |
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Fritz01 |
no; why? |
| 19:42 |
Fritz01 |
no.* |
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tokage |
_Megaf: how's the work going? |
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tokage |
fork* |
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_Megaf |
tokage: I will not be working on it for now |
| 19:43 |
_Megaf |
I have other priorities |
| 19:44 |
_Megaf |
Fritz01: you dont have a goodle account!? Really!? What world do you live in? |
| 19:44 |
_Megaf |
:S |
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* tokage |
doesn't have a big brother account either |
| 19:44 |
_Megaf |
Fritz01: well, if you had a gmail you'd have xmpp |
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_Megaf |
but hold on, I will help you out my fellow XMPP future user |
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Out`Of`Control |
Fritz01: you can use any server |
| 19:45 |
_Megaf |
Fritz01: would you be kind enough to share with us your current country of residence? |
| 19:45 |
_Megaf |
Out`Of`Control: wrong |
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_Megaf |
Out`Of`Control: Facebook, WhatsApp and a ton of other shit use XMPP and them made sure to turn their services closed and incompatible |
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Fritz01 |
_Megaf: Why would you need it? |
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Out`Of`Control |
_Megaf: he ask about http://www.jabberes.org/servers/servers_by_times_online.html |
| 19:46 |
_Megaf |
yes, WhatsApp is XMPP |
| 19:46 |
_Megaf |
Fritz01: there ^ |
| 19:46 |
_Megaf |
the link Out`Of`Control just gave you |
| 19:46 |
_Megaf |
meu jabber is eumegaf jabber.org |
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_Megaf |
by the way :) |
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tokage |
wow I didn't know that |
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tokage |
xmpp is famous after all |
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_Megaf |
tokage: you have no idea |
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tokage |
s/famous/popular |
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Out`Of`Control |
you can run your own xmpp server |
| 19:47 |
_Megaf |
I had my own in the past |
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_Megaf |
Why the awesome people from this channel dont play on my awesome server? |
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sfan5 |
!server ping:least |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: *** SurvivalWorld *** by Telesight | survivalworld.telesight.nl:30004 | Clients: 0/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 6ms |
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Out`Of`Control |
_Megaf: have you been on my server? |
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_Megaf |
I mean, we are a bunch of IT admins, Engineers and other crazy 30+ years old lunatics |
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_Megaf |
we are cool people |
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rubenwardy |
I haven't looked at my server in months |
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Fritz01 |
_Megaf: how can i connect to your server (i'm using xabber)? |
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rubenwardy |
my inbox is probably massive |
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_Megaf |
Out`Of`Control: was there yesterday |
| 19:49 |
_Megaf |
why? |
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AndDT |
_Megaf: 20+ :) |
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_Megaf |
rubenwardy: sometimes my inbox gets full yep |
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Telesight |
Why do you wake me up ... |
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_Megaf |
well, eveybody is welcome there :P |
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_Megaf |
we have some coders there too xP |
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_Megaf |
and other server admins |
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_Megaf |
anyhow... |
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_Megaf |
Fritz01: I dont have a XMPP server anymore |
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_Megaf |
I dont think I have at least |
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AndDT |
_Megaf: which xmpp server did you have? |
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Fritz01 |
"meu jabber is eumegafjabber.org " |
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_Megaf |
AndDT: you mean name or software? |
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AndDT |
software |
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_Megaf |
lol Fritz01 sorry about about that |
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_Megaf |
my jabber is* |
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Telesight |
!server ping:least |
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_Megaf |
xP |
| 19:51 |
MinetestBot |
Telesight: *** SurvivalWorld *** by Telesight | survivalworld.telesight.nl:30004 | Clients: 0/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 6ms |
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Telesight |
Funny ;-) |
| 19:51 |
_Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
_Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 0/5 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms |
| 19:51 |
Krock |
6ms vs 6ms |
| 19:52 |
_Megaf |
sfan5: you have to change the bot so it shows my server instead |
| 19:52 |
Out`Of`Control |
lol |
| 19:52 |
_Megaf |
xP |
| 19:52 |
_Megaf |
Telesight: touchet |
| 19:52 |
sfan5 |
nah it's probably the subsecond difference |
| 19:52 |
Telesight |
Your server is doped ... |
| 19:53 |
_Megaf |
sfan5: but but but, my port number is one number smaller |
| 19:53 |
sfan5 |
no u |
| 19:53 |
_Megaf |
therefore, ping should me lower now!? |
| 19:53 |
_Megaf |
xP |
| 19:53 |
_Megaf |
s/now/no |
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_Megaf |
AndDT: *insert word here*fire |
| 19:53 |
_Megaf |
that's the software I used |
| 19:53 |
_Megaf |
then used ejabberd |
| 19:54 |
sfan5 |
telesight rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 5.662/5.764/5.877/0.080 ms, ipg/ewma 201.419/5.828 ms |
| 19:54 |
sfan5 |
megaf rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 6.187/6.862/8.844/1.147 ms, ipg/ewma 200.724/6.455 ms |
| 19:54 |
AndDT |
oh, ejabberd |
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| 19:54 |
_Megaf |
the the *insert word here*fire is my favourite |
| 19:54 |
AndDT |
Mine is prosody |
| 19:54 |
whitephoenix |
I've been trying to find ways to contribute, but all the engine stuff is way above my head |
| 19:54 |
_Megaf |
Fritz01: Out`Of`Control gave you a cool link with cool XMPP servers. Choose on |
| 19:54 |
Out`Of`Control |
prosody is neat |
| 19:54 |
Telesight |
heheh |
| 19:54 |
_Megaf |
prosody is cool yup |
| 19:55 |
Hawk777 |
_Megaf: actually 30003 should have higher ping, because 30003 has more 1s in its binary representation, and we all know the electrons carrying 1s across the wire are heavier :D |
| 19:56 |
Fritz01 |
_Megaf: i tried some servers, but they didn't worked |
| 19:56 |
Telesight |
I do get lately a lot of players with a number after their name, I guess it is a new "feature"...? |
| 19:56 |
_Megaf |
Fritz01: is there one called jabber.eu or xmpp.eu or alike? |
| 19:57 |
Out`Of`Control |
Telesight: same here 4 numbers at the end |
| 19:57 |
Telesight |
hmm irritating ... |
| 19:57 |
sfan5 |
yes it's the new way of saying 'Guest5546' |
| 19:58 |
Telesight |
TNo it is also with for example with : simon123 |
| 19:58 |
Fritz01 |
_Megaf: well, no |
| 20:00 |
Telesight |
Is it to make a playersname unique? |
| 20:00 |
_Megaf |
!server ping:least |
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MinetestBot |
_Megaf: *** BuildersWorld *** by Telesight | buildersworld.telesight.nl:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/9 | Version: 0.4.13 / minetest | Ping: 6ms |
| 20:00 |
_Megaf |
well, not long ago my server had a 2ms ping |
| 20:01 |
_Megaf |
anyone remember that? |
| 20:01 |
Telesight |
TLost again ;-) |
| 20:01 |
_Megaf |
!server ping:most |
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MinetestBot |
_Megaf: FishNet - FishWorld | fishminer.mrbasic.com:3333 | Clients: 0/12, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 519ms |
| 20:01 |
_Megaf |
Ouch |
| 20:01 |
_Megaf |
Telesight: my server is 0.4.14 dev =/ |
| 20:01 |
_Megaf |
heheh |
| 20:02 |
Telesight |
Yes I have to update that one still ... |
| 20:02 |
rubenwardy |
whitephoenix: there's always mods to be made |
| 20:03 |
rubenwardy |
or tools |
| 20:03 |
rubenwardy |
like, we need a formspec editor |
| 20:03 |
whitephoenix |
I'll think about it |
| 20:04 |
whitephoenix |
I could probably make something for formspecs with python and qt |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
I'll point you to my book, just in case you haven't done modding before: http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/ |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
that would be cool! |
| 20:04 |
whitephoenix |
Oh I've done some modding, actually your book is amazing |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
You'd need to read the guiFormspecMenu.cpp code though, as there's a lot of inconsistencies |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
like, with button alignment |
| 20:04 |
rubenwardy |
thanks XD |
| 20:05 |
_Megaf |
Krock: can you elaborate on the long line? Anything wrong with it apart from being long? |
| 20:05 |
_Megaf |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4420#pullrequestreview-3453704 |
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_Megaf |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
_Megaf: Sqlite3 database concurrent use & possible speed improvement by Rogier-5 · Pull Request #4420 · minetest/minetest · GitHub |
| 20:07 |
whitephoenix |
I should also release some of my mods though |
| 20:07 |
Fritz01 |
Why the minetest license doesn't change to CC-BY-SA-NC? That would legally prevent scams like multicraft |
| 20:09 |
sfan5 |
cc-by-sa-nc is not a license for code |
| 20:09 |
sfan5 |
also the older code remains licensed under whatever we have now |
| 20:09 |
whitephoenix |
minetest uses GPL, so people can modify and/or redistribute all they want |
| 20:10 |
rubenwardy |
legally they have to share the code |
| 20:10 |
whitephoenix |
Fritz01, unless you were refering to the assets? |
| 20:10 |
Fritz01 |
? |
| 20:10 |
rubenwardy |
whitephoenix, http://freedomdefined.org/Licenses/NC#The_case_for_Free_use:_reasons_not_to_use_a_Creative_Commons_-NC_license |
| 20:11 |
tokage |
Fritz01: why is it a scam? |
| 20:12 |
Fritz01 |
because his "creator" is making money with it (ads) |
| 20:12 |
rubenwardy |
Multicraft is the biggest minetest based app on android, and the dev actually gave it a lot of work |
| 20:12 |
rubenwardy |
they improved the user interface |
| 20:12 |
sfan5 |
damnit rubenwardy i wanted to say that |
| 20:13 |
rubenwardy |
sorry :P |
| 20:13 |
Fritz01 |
could you post a screenshot? |
| 20:13 |
tokage |
Fritz01: I don't think there's a problem as long as he doesn't violate the license |
| 20:13 |
sfan5 |
if you're going to call any of those mt android apps a scam, multicraft is the one that deserves this title the least |
| 20:13 |
sfan5 |
Fritz01: screenshots here https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.MultiCraft |
| 20:14 |
rubenwardy |
also, it is not legally possible to change the license now - as you'd need to contact every single contributor and ask for their permission, or rewrite any changes and any changes based on their work |
| 20:14 |
rubenwardy |
and there are literally hundreds of contributors |
| 20:14 |
rubenwardy |
and FWIW, I would not give permission to go NC |
| 20:15 |
rubenwardy |
and many others would not |
| 20:15 |
whitephoenix |
as far as licenses go gplv2.1 is a pretty great choice imo |
| 20:15 |
rubenwardy |
oops, the link I shared was meant for FirePowi |
| 20:15 |
rubenwardy |
*Fritz01 |
| 20:15 |
rubenwardy |
not whitephoenix |
| 20:16 |
tokage |
https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-apply-a-creative-commons-license-to-software even cc recommends against that |
| 20:16 |
rubenwardy |
well, whitephoenix, it's LGPL which isn't quite as good but almost as good. It at least requires them to share changes |
| 20:16 |
tokage |
and the fsf of course :) |
| 20:17 |
Fritz01 |
i saw the screenshots. where's the improvement? |
| 20:17 |
Fritz01 |
just the minimap? |
| 20:17 |
rubenwardy |
the controls in the bottom left are easier to use, imo |
| 20:17 |
rubenwardy |
that's not the only thing though that they changed |
| 20:18 |
Fritz01 |
what else? |
| 20:18 |
rubenwardy |
however, I do think that the amount of adverts they show is ridiculous. It caused problems in CTF when an ad popped over |
| 20:19 |
tokage |
that's why it's rated to badly |
| 20:19 |
tokage |
so* |
| 20:20 |
Fritz01 |
-.- |
| 20:20 |
tokage |
well minetest is rated even worse :^) |
| 20:20 |
Fritz01 |
5 stars: more than 300.000 |
| 20:20 |
tokage |
yeah because of *craft |
| 20:22 |
Fritz01 |
plus i tried the sub-game. even a teen could do better |
| 20:23 |
whitephoenix |
I'm excited for the new chat and command thing to be released |
| 20:23 |
Fritz01 |
isn't the text (of the chat) too big? |
| 20:24 |
whitephoenix |
hm? I'm talking about this getting removed http://i.imgur.com/bSAC1eq.png |
| 20:24 |
tokage |
are minetest and multicraft compatible? |
| 20:25 |
tokage |
for mp |
| 20:25 |
Fritz01 |
not the subgames |
| 20:25 |
Krock |
_Megaf, no. But the absolute line max is 90, if there's no way around |
| 20:26 |
Krock |
tokage, the 2nd one is a fork of the 1st, so they are. |
| 20:26 |
Fritz01 |
rubenwardy: i don't see any improvement in multicraft. its a ugly clone of minetest |
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PR4530-SFS |
whitephoenix: it is removed |
| 20:29 |
whitephoenix |
Yeah I'm saying I'm excited for the version without it to be released |
| 20:29 |
Fritz01 |
rubenwardy: plus his "creator" is making money with it. it doesn't make you angry? |
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Out`Of`Control |
Fritz01: you can sell gpl software |
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Out`Of`Control |
as long you share code |
| 20:32 |
sfan5 |
whitephoenix: your minetest is outdated, 0.4.14 no longer has this dialog box |
| 20:33 |
whitephoenix |
oh |
| 20:33 |
whitephoenix |
thanks xubuntu |
| 20:34 |
sfan5 |
just use the ppa |
| 20:35 |
whitephoenix |
alright |
| 20:45 |
whitephoenix |
I'm gonna put out my deathsounds mod sometime soon, but I think I'll need to add a cool down |
| 20:45 |
whitephoenix |
if you die in fire or lava register_on_dieplayer gets called several times causing issues |
| 20:45 |
sfan5 |
ah yes |
| 20:45 |
sfan5 |
you probably keep dying again and again until the player clicks respawn? |
| 20:45 |
whitephoenix |
yep |
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Fritz01 |
bye |
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PR4530-SFS |
sfan5: to be fair new chat is not that much better :/ |
| 20:57 |
PR4530-SFS |
sfan5: it is confusing, takes up space and I can't even look the f-ing coordinates |
| 21:22 |
Hijiri |
there should be an FRP interface to formspecs |
| 21:22 |
Hijiri |
our next GUI API should involve a haskell-like interpreted language |
| 21:23 |
Krock |
not to forget that we still lack of brainfuck support |
| 21:24 |
whitephoenix |
what about malbolge... or even worse lisp |
| 21:24 |
Krock |
sounds great! |
| 21:25 |
PR4530-SFS |
cobol only |
| 21:25 |
whitephoenix |
web asm clearly is needed |
| 21:25 |
PR4530-SFS |
node.js |
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rubenwardy |
container based GUIs are the way forward |
| 21:26 |
whitephoenix |
but is it webscale? |
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| 21:26 |
whitephoenix |
needs to be able to handle big data apis |
| 21:26 |
rubenwardy |
minetest uses a flat position element GUI, where each item has a position and size |
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rubenwardy |
this is not good for responsiveness |
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sfan5 |
we need to integrate mongodb somewhere |
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rubenwardy |
it would be way better to use layouters than size/position - position of elements is calculated based on available space |
| 21:27 |
rubenwardy |
just my 2c |
| 21:28 |
rubenwardy |
for example, linear layouts for stacking buttons one after the other, grid layouts for grids |
| 21:31 |
xunto |
rubenwardy: android-like? |
| 21:32 |
Hijiri |
I've been trying to read the reflex (FRP framework) implementation source to understand it so I can port it to Lua, but I was having trouble |
| 21:32 |
Hijiri |
FRP alone wouldn't help with layout though |
| 21:35 |
electrodude512 |
Why don't you just add client-side scripting and the script GUIs in Lua? |
| 21:35 |
electrodude512 |
s/the/then/ |
| 21:35 |
Hijiri |
you would still have to design the GUIs that run on the client side |
| 21:35 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, xunto, android like |
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sfan5 |
somebody needs to code it you know |
| 21:35 |
sfan5 |
also sandboxing |
| 21:36 |
Hijiri |
isn't it enough to gimp the global environment the script gets |
| 21:36 |
electrodude512 |
yeah, sandboxing here sounds like the easy part to me |
| 21:46 |
red-001 |
didn't someone make a pr that started implementing that? |
| 21:46 |
Hijiri |
yeah |
| 21:46 |
electrodude512 |
where? |
| 21:46 |
Hijiri |
#4577 |
| 21:46 |
Hijiri |
no PR bot here |
| 21:46 |
red-001 |
!title https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4577 |
| 21:46 |
MinetestBot |
red-001: WIP: Client-side mods by duckbrain · Pull Request #4577 · minetest/minetest · GitHub |
| 21:49 |
whitephoenix |
hmm how could I make a "cool down" so that register_on_dieplayer doesn't get called all the time while in lava / fire? |
| 21:50 |
red-001 |
shouldn't client-sided lua send the traceback to the server? |
| 21:50 |
red-001 |
whitephoenix: thats an engine issue |
| 21:50 |
Hijiri |
server triggers death callbacks any time the player is hit or changes health or joins while dead etc. |
| 21:51 |
Hijiri |
there is a hack you can use |
| 21:51 |
whitephoenix |
red-001, I know, but I'm making a death sound mod and don't want the sounds to play all at once |
| 21:51 |
Hijiri |
keep a table and use it to record the set of players that are dead |
| 21:51 |
Hijiri |
oh wait |
| 21:51 |
red-001 |
there was a pr to fix it but this is minetest so you will have to wait a few months |
| 21:51 |
Hijiri |
death callbacks get called before join callbacks right? |
| 21:51 |
red-001 |
test ti? |
| 21:51 |
red-001 |
it* |
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Hijiri |
I'm in class right now, don't want to open minetest |
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Hijiri |
I remember seeing someone report that it does, though |
| 21:52 |
Hijiri |
anyway I had a hack that you could use but I have to go since class ended |
| 21:52 |
whitephoenix |
oh maybe I could use register_on_respawnplayer for this |
| 21:53 |
whitephoenix |
yeah that sounds good actually |
| 21:56 |
whitephoenix |
works beautifully |
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PsychoVision |
Anyone on here got any hints or know of a mod which does +2 node vertical animated frames please? |
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Megaf |
!server ping:least |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: *** SurvivalWorld *** by Telesight | survivalworld.telesight.nl:30004 | Clients: 0/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 5ms |
| 23:28 |
Megaf |
:O |
| 23:28 |
Megaf |
oh no |
| 23:28 |
Megaf |
oh no! |
| 23:29 |
Megaf |
PsychoVision: try #Minetest-Project if you join NOW then I shall allow you to speak there |
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Megaf |
NOW will expire in 5 minute |
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Megaf |
NOW has now expired |
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Megaf |
I shall go to bed indeed, good night folks |
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garywhite |
night Megaf |
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