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02:31 MinetestBot [git] tenplus1 -> minetest/minetest_game: Tnt: Various optimisations 6fdfd25 https://git.io/vPBNi (2016-10-10T03:16:41+01:00)
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07:47 Jeija red-001, no problem at all. Thank you very much for the contribution!
07:51 Krock moin Jeija :)
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08:55 _Megaf Split again!? Really!?
08:55 _Megaf Every single day now
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09:43 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Monday, and please spare a thought for those in need of support on World Mental Health Day. đź‘‹
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11:40 namach hello again guys
11:40 namach i need a little help... i have build something on a server but i want to keep it on the local machine...
11:41 namach i tried to set local map saving in the minetest.conf but no result
11:41 namach any ideas?
11:42 sfan5 you set 'enable_local_map_saving = true' in minetest.conf?
11:43 namach yes
11:43 namach nothing actually happened (i am using linux mint)
11:44 namach i thought at least the client would tell me it is saving the world or something like it
11:45 sfan5 hme
11:45 sfan5 what's your minetest version?
11:46 namach 0.4.14
11:46 sfan5 then it should definitely work
11:47 everamzah ~/.minetest/worlds/servername
11:47 sfan5 can you run minetest from the terminal and see whether it says anything?
11:47 everamzah is where it should end up.
11:47 namach i am not very familiar with linux but i noticed that the executable file and the other files of the game are in different locations (i guess this is normal)
11:48 sfan5 yes that's normal
11:48 sfan5 which minetest.conf file did you edit?
11:48 namach how to run it in terminal? follow the path of the file?
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11:49 namach i found only one minetest.conf file. actually there is second but it has been downloaded with some mod and is separated from rest of the game
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11:52 namach everamzah: i don't see "worlds" folder in the minetest folder
11:53 namach i found the minetest folder in: usr/share/minetest
11:53 everamzah ingame you can type /set enable_local_world_saving, and see whether it's true
11:53 everamzah not there, it'll save in your user home directory
11:54 everamzah in a folder called ~/.minetest/worlds.  /usr/share/minetest would be for system files, and isn't writable
11:54 everamzah unless you play minetest as root user ^_^
11:56 namach writing what you said ingame responded in: "you don't have permission to run this command"
11:56 namach i don't play as root... but to edit the minetest.conf i opened the folder as root
11:58 everamzah oh right it's a public server.  it'd be the ~/.minetest/minetest.conf file.  you could also adjust that setting in the settings tab->advanced
11:59 everamzah i'd start a singleplayer world, and see where it's located (should be ~/.minetest/worlds) and also type that /set enable_local_map_saving, ensuring it's true, to start
12:01 sfan5 namach: you don't need to edit any file as root
12:02 sfan5 you need to edit ~/.minetest/minetest.con
12:02 sfan5 *conf
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12:03 namach ok, we made a discovery... i am changing wrong conf file...
12:06 namach in the game settings tab it is already set to "Enable"
12:08 namach i see that in the "worlds" folder there is a new folder with the name of the server i want to save
12:09 namach now if we assume that i have saved something, how would i open the saved world?
12:10 sfan5 make sure to disabled the setting again
12:10 sfan5 then open the world in singleplayer
12:10 namach enable_local_map_saving = false?
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12:11 namach will i see the world in the single player menu automatically or i should import it somehow
12:11 newbie is the folder empty except for the map.sqlite?
12:12 namach yes
12:13 newbie you might have to add a file that specifies a game to use
12:13 namach just did it and it works :)
12:14 namach thank you so much sfan5 everamzah newbie :)
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12:15 everamzah oh good to hear
12:16 * twoelk wonders why freenode doesn't identify him automaticly anymore
12:16 twoelk what server did yoy copy namach?
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12:21 Krock twoelk, your client identifies you. Not the server.
12:22 twoelk ah, so I havn't set up this client correctly - of course I havn't when I think about it ;-D
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13:11 Buttatoes has a scuba mod ever been attempted?
13:13 Krock !mod scuba
13:13 MinetestBot Krock: Scuba Helmet [scuba] by jordan4ibanez - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=15376
13:13 Krock yes.
13:14 Krock ^ Buttatoes
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14:00 sfan5 !server addr:179.76.117.19
14:00 MinetestBot sfan5:  | 179.76.117.19 | Clients: 1/15, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.13 / villagecraftpocketeditiongame | Ping: 405ms
14:01 sfan5 ^ this is what happens when shitty android clients leave server_announce=1 enabled
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14:04 Krock +1 for the longest subgame name ever seen
14:05 Krock looks like he's not playing in a router network
14:05 sfan5 nah https://github.com/minetes​t/master-server/issues/11
14:05 Krock wow, that's way longer
14:07 sfan5 oh look whoever was playing got guests
14:07 sfan5 !server addr:179.76.117.19
14:07 MinetestBot sfan5:  | 179.76.117.19 | Clients: 2/15, 1/2 | Version: 0.4.13 / villagecraftpocketeditiongame | Ping: 305ms
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14:11 sfan5 looks like the server's gone now
14:11 Krock yeah. Timed out
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14:17 IhrFussel agaran, hello =) Seems to work so far...the old world and the same world but with deleted map file are separate worlds now and I can switch between them via command
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14:20 IhrFussel And players can add their most important building via another command...then I review them and decide if I copy them over to the new world
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14:21 anddam hello, while using the zip archive from minetest_game github page I get ".minetest/games/minetest_game​/mods/default/mapgen.lua:1471: attempt to call field 'get_mapgen_setting' (a nil value)"
14:21 anddam I see get_mapgen_setting is replacing get_mapgen_params, but why is that error happening? do I have a too old version? I'm using 0.4.14
14:23 sfan5 doesn't the minetest package come with minetest_game?
14:23 IhrFussel anddam, it's definitely not the version..0.4.14 is the most recent
14:28 sfan5 in any case: you can't use 0.4.14-dev minetest_game with 0.4.14 minetest
14:28 sfan5 us this if you really need to:
14:28 sfan5 https://github.com/minetest/mi​netest_game/archive/0.4.14.zip
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14:40 anddam by -dev you mean the master branch snapshot?
14:40 anddam I see the point
14:40 anddam got 0.4.14 from githb releases
14:41 sfan5 yes
14:41 sfan5 but whereever you got minetest from should really include minetest_game
14:43 anddam it's the distro package, void linux
14:44 anddam yep, confirmed it doesn't ship minetest_game and there's no separate package for it
14:45 sfan5 make sure to complain to the maintainer
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15:06 agaran Hello
15:08 red-001 it seems that part of the HTTPFetchRequest api is not documented
15:10 red-001 how is the request formated and how is the response data formated?
15:10 red-001 is it a table?
15:10 agaran I would try to fetch some mod using it and go from there..
15:13 red-001 nvm it's just in a diffrent part of the api doc
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17:21 whitephoenix https://vid.me/GhLz all of the mods I make are super useful
17:22 sfan5 !title
17:22 MinetestBot sfan5: free software is software that respects the users freedom - vidme
17:23 sfan5 wonderful
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17:42 jin_xi whitephoenix: its glorious but missing a hurd of gnus
17:42 whitephoenix I can fix that (later)
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17:57 Birgit Hello everybody ... is there a command inside of minetest to find out what users are online?
17:58 sfan5 /status
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18:06 Birgit ah okay ... thanks @sfan5
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19:15 blerttt is there a way to quick find out what biome i am in?
19:16 garywhite Not to my knowledge
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19:24 whitephoenix blerttt, compare it to this I guess http://wiki.minetest.net/Biomes
19:24 whitephoenix someone could probably make a mod for that
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19:25 Fritz01 Hello
19:25 Out`Of`Control hi
19:25 Fritz01 Sorry if this is out-topic, but how can i use a XMPP client?
19:26 Out`Of`Control you would need an xmpp account
19:27 Fritz01 How to make it?
19:27 Out`Of`Control on some servers you can register on connect
19:28 Out`Of`Control http://www.jabberes.org/server​s/servers_by_times_online.html
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19:36 Fritz01 every server is suitable, right?
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19:41 _Megaf Fritz01: got GMail?
19:42 Fritz01 no; why?
19:42 Fritz01 no.*
19:42 tokage _Megaf: how's the work going?
19:42 tokage fork*
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19:43 _Megaf tokage: I will not be working on it for now
19:43 _Megaf I have other priorities
19:44 _Megaf Fritz01: you dont have a goodle account!? Really!? What world do you live in?
19:44 _Megaf :S
19:44 * tokage doesn't have a big brother account either
19:44 _Megaf Fritz01: well, if you had a gmail you'd have xmpp
19:45 _Megaf but hold on, I will help you out my fellow XMPP future user
19:45 Out`Of`Control Fritz01: you can use any server
19:45 _Megaf Fritz01: would you be kind enough to share with us your current country of residence?
19:45 _Megaf Out`Of`Control: wrong
19:46 _Megaf Out`Of`Control: Facebook, WhatsApp and a ton of other shit use XMPP and them made sure to turn their services closed and incompatible
19:46 Fritz01 _Megaf: Why would you need it?
19:46 Out`Of`Control _Megaf:  he ask about http://www.jabberes.org/server​s/servers_by_times_online.html
19:46 _Megaf yes, WhatsApp is XMPP
19:46 _Megaf Fritz01: there ^
19:46 _Megaf the link Out`Of`Control just gave you
19:46 _Megaf meu jabber is eumegaf@jabber.org
19:46 _Megaf by the way :)
19:46 tokage wow I didn't know that
19:46 tokage xmpp is famous after all
19:47 _Megaf tokage: you have no idea
19:47 tokage s/famous/popular
19:47 Out`Of`Control you can run your own xmpp server
19:47 _Megaf I had my own in the past
19:48 _Megaf Why the awesome people from this channel dont play on my awesome server?
19:48 sfan5 !server ping:least
19:48 MinetestBot sfan5: *** SurvivalWorld *** by Telesight | survivalworld.telesight.nl:30004 | Clients: 0/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 6ms
19:48 Out`Of`Control _Megaf:  have you been on my server?
19:49 _Megaf I mean, we are a bunch of IT admins, Engineers and other crazy 30+ years old lunatics
19:49 _Megaf we are cool people
19:49 rubenwardy I haven't looked at my server in months
19:49 Fritz01 _Megaf: how can i connect to your server (i'm using xabber)?
19:49 rubenwardy my inbox is probably massive
19:49 _Megaf Out`Of`Control: was there yesterday
19:49 _Megaf why?
19:49 AndDT _Megaf: 20+ :)
19:49 _Megaf rubenwardy: sometimes my inbox gets full yep
19:50 Telesight Why do you wake me up ...
19:50 _Megaf well, eveybody is welcome there :P
19:50 _Megaf we have some coders there too xP
19:50 _Megaf and other server admins
19:50 _Megaf anyhow...
19:50 _Megaf Fritz01: I dont have a XMPP server anymore
19:50 _Megaf I dont think I have at least
19:50 AndDT _Megaf: which xmpp server did you have?
19:51 Fritz01 "meu jabber is eumegaf@jabber.org "
19:51 _Megaf AndDT: you mean name or software?
19:51 AndDT software
19:51 _Megaf lol Fritz01 sorry about about that
19:51 _Megaf my jabber is*
19:51 Telesight !server ping:least
19:51 _Megaf xP
19:51 MinetestBot Telesight: *** SurvivalWorld *** by Telesight | survivalworld.telesight.nl:30004 | Clients: 0/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 6ms
19:51 Telesight Funny ;-)
19:51 _Megaf !server Megaf
19:51 MinetestBot _Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/10, 0/5 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 6ms
19:51 Krock 6ms vs 6ms
19:52 _Megaf sfan5: you have to change the bot so it shows my server instead
19:52 Out`Of`Control lol
19:52 _Megaf xP
19:52 _Megaf Telesight: touchet
19:52 sfan5 nah it's probably the subsecond difference
19:52 Telesight Your server is doped ...
19:53 _Megaf sfan5: but but but, my port number is one number smaller
19:53 sfan5 no u
19:53 _Megaf therefore, ping should me lower now!?
19:53 _Megaf xP
19:53 _Megaf s/now/no
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19:53 _Megaf AndDT: *insert word here*fire
19:53 _Megaf that's the software I used
19:53 _Megaf then used ejabberd
19:54 sfan5 telesight rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 5.662/5.764/5.877/0.080 ms, ipg/ewma 201.419/5.828 ms
19:54 sfan5 megaf rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 6.187/6.862/8.844/1.147 ms, ipg/ewma 200.724/6.455 ms
19:54 AndDT oh, ejabberd
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19:54 _Megaf the the *insert word here*fire is my favourite
19:54 AndDT Mine is prosody
19:54 whitephoenix I've been trying to find ways to contribute, but all the engine stuff is way above my head
19:54 _Megaf Fritz01: Out`Of`Control gave you a cool link with cool XMPP servers. Choose on
19:54 Out`Of`Control prosody is neat
19:54 Telesight heheh
19:54 _Megaf prosody is cool yup
19:55 Hawk777 _Megaf: actually 30003 should have higher ping, because 30003 has more 1s in its binary representation, and we all know the electrons carrying 1s across the wire are heavier :D
19:56 Fritz01 _Megaf: i tried some servers, but they didn't worked
19:56 Telesight I do get lately a lot of players with a number after their name, I guess it is a new "feature"...?
19:56 _Megaf Fritz01: is there one called jabber.eu or xmpp.eu or alike?
19:57 Out`Of`Control Telesight:  same here 4 numbers at the end
19:57 Telesight hmm irritating ...
19:57 sfan5 yes it's the new way of saying 'Guest5546'
19:58 Telesight TNo it is also with for example with : simon123
19:58 Fritz01 _Megaf: well, no
20:00 Telesight Is it to make a playersname unique?
20:00 _Megaf !server ping:least
20:00 MinetestBot _Megaf: *** BuildersWorld *** by Telesight | buildersworld.telesight.nl:30003 | Clients: 0/20, 0/9 | Version: 0.4.13 / minetest | Ping: 6ms
20:00 _Megaf well, not long ago my server had a 2ms ping
20:01 _Megaf anyone remember that?
20:01 Telesight TLost again ;-)
20:01 _Megaf !server ping:most
20:01 MinetestBot _Megaf: FishNet - FishWorld | fishminer.mrbasic.com:3333 | Clients: 0/12, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 519ms
20:01 _Megaf Ouch
20:01 _Megaf Telesight: my server is 0.4.14 dev =/
20:01 _Megaf heheh
20:02 Telesight Yes I have to update that one still ...
20:02 rubenwardy whitephoenix: there's always mods to be made
20:03 rubenwardy or tools
20:03 rubenwardy like, we need a formspec editor
20:03 whitephoenix I'll think about it
20:04 whitephoenix I could probably make something for formspecs with python and qt
20:04 rubenwardy I'll point you to my book, just in case you haven't done modding before: http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/
20:04 rubenwardy that would be cool!
20:04 whitephoenix Oh I've done some modding, actually your book is amazing
20:04 rubenwardy You'd need to read the guiFormspecMenu.cpp code though, as there's a lot of inconsistencies
20:04 rubenwardy like, with button alignment
20:04 rubenwardy thanks XD
20:05 _Megaf Krock: can you elaborate on the long line? Anything wrong with it apart from being long?
20:05 _Megaf https://github.com/minetest/minetest​/pull/4420#pullrequestreview-3453704
20:05 _Megaf !title
20:05 MinetestBot _Megaf: Sqlite3 database concurrent use & possible speed improvement by Rogier-5 · Pull Request #4420 · minetest/minetest · GitHub
20:07 whitephoenix I should also release some of my mods though
20:07 Fritz01 Why the minetest license doesn't change to CC-BY-SA-NC? That would legally prevent scams like multicraft
20:09 sfan5 cc-by-sa-nc is not a license for code
20:09 sfan5 also the older code remains licensed under whatever we have now
20:09 whitephoenix minetest uses GPL, so people can modify and/or redistribute all they want
20:10 rubenwardy legally they have to share the code
20:10 whitephoenix Fritz01, unless you were refering to the assets?
20:10 Fritz01 ?
20:10 rubenwardy whitephoenix, http://freedomdefined.org/Licenses/NC​#The_case_for_Free_use:_reasons_not_t​o_use_a_Creative_Commons_-NC_license
20:11 tokage Fritz01: why is it a scam?
20:12 Fritz01 because his "creator" is making money with it (ads)
20:12 rubenwardy Multicraft is the biggest minetest based app on android, and the dev actually gave it a lot of work
20:12 rubenwardy they improved the user interface
20:12 sfan5 damnit rubenwardy i wanted to say that
20:13 rubenwardy sorry :P
20:13 Fritz01 could you post a screenshot?
20:13 tokage Fritz01: I don't think there's a problem as long as he doesn't violate the license
20:13 sfan5 if you're going to call any of those mt android apps a scam, multicraft is the one that deserves this title the least
20:13 sfan5 Fritz01: screenshots here https://play.google.com/store/a​pps/details?id=mobi.MultiCraft
20:14 rubenwardy also, it is not legally possible to change the license now - as you'd need to contact every single contributor and ask for their permission, or rewrite any changes and any changes based on their work
20:14 rubenwardy and there are literally hundreds of contributors
20:14 rubenwardy and FWIW, I would not give permission to go NC
20:15 rubenwardy and many others would not
20:15 whitephoenix as far as licenses go gplv2.1 is a pretty great choice imo
20:15 rubenwardy oops, the link I shared was meant for FirePowi
20:15 rubenwardy *Fritz01
20:15 rubenwardy not whitephoenix
20:16 tokage https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-app​ly-a-creative-commons-license-to-software even cc recommends against that
20:16 rubenwardy well, whitephoenix, it's LGPL which isn't quite as good but almost as good. It at least requires them to share changes
20:16 tokage and the fsf of course :)
20:17 Fritz01 i saw the screenshots. where's the improvement?
20:17 Fritz01 just the minimap?
20:17 rubenwardy the controls in the bottom left are easier to use, imo
20:17 rubenwardy that's not the only thing though that they changed
20:18 Fritz01 what else?
20:18 rubenwardy however, I do think that the amount of adverts they show is ridiculous. It caused problems in CTF when an ad popped over
20:19 tokage that's why it's rated to badly
20:19 tokage so*
20:20 Fritz01 -.-
20:20 tokage well minetest is rated even worse :^)
20:20 Fritz01 5 stars: more than 300.000
20:20 tokage yeah because of *craft
20:22 Fritz01 plus i tried the sub-game. even a teen could do better
20:23 whitephoenix I'm excited for the new chat and command thing to be released
20:23 Fritz01 isn't the text (of the chat) too big?
20:24 whitephoenix hm? I'm talking about this getting removed http://i.imgur.com/bSAC1eq.png
20:24 tokage are minetest and multicraft compatible?
20:25 tokage for mp
20:25 Fritz01 not the subgames
20:25 Krock _Megaf, no. But the absolute line max is 90, if there's no way around
20:26 Krock tokage, the 2nd one is a fork of the 1st, so they are.
20:26 Fritz01 rubenwardy: i don't see any improvement in multicraft. its a ugly clone of minetest
20:28 PR4530-SFS whitephoenix: it is removed
20:29 whitephoenix Yeah I'm saying I'm excited for the version without it to be released
20:29 Fritz01 rubenwardy: plus his "creator" is making money with it. it doesn't make you angry?
20:31 Out`Of`Control Fritz01: you can sell gpl software
20:31 Out`Of`Control as long you share code
20:32 sfan5 whitephoenix: your minetest is outdated, 0.4.14 no longer has this dialog box
20:33 whitephoenix oh
20:33 whitephoenix thanks xubuntu
20:34 sfan5 just use the ppa
20:35 whitephoenix alright
20:45 whitephoenix I'm gonna put out my deathsounds mod sometime soon, but I think I'll need to add a cool down
20:45 whitephoenix if you die in fire or lava register_on_dieplayer gets called several times causing issues
20:45 sfan5 ah yes
20:45 sfan5 you probably keep dying again and again until the player clicks respawn?
20:45 whitephoenix yep
20:47 Fritz01 bye
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20:56 PR4530-SFS sfan5: to be fair new chat is not that much better :/
20:57 PR4530-SFS sfan5: it is confusing, takes up space and I can't even look the f-ing coordinates
21:22 Hijiri there should be an FRP interface to formspecs
21:22 Hijiri our next GUI API should involve a haskell-like interpreted language
21:23 Krock not to forget that we still lack of brainfuck support
21:24 whitephoenix what about malbolge... or even worse lisp
21:24 Krock sounds great!
21:25 PR4530-SFS cobol only
21:25 whitephoenix web asm clearly is needed
21:25 PR4530-SFS node.js
21:26 rubenwardy container based GUIs are the way forward
21:26 whitephoenix but is it webscale?
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21:26 whitephoenix needs to be able to handle big data apis
21:26 rubenwardy minetest uses a flat position element GUI, where each item has a position and size
21:27 rubenwardy this is not good for responsiveness
21:27 sfan5 we need to integrate mongodb somewhere
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21:27 rubenwardy it would be way better to use layouters than size/position - position of elements is calculated based on available space
21:27 rubenwardy just my 2c
21:28 rubenwardy for example, linear layouts for stacking buttons one after the other, grid layouts for grids
21:31 xunto rubenwardy: android-like?
21:32 Hijiri I've been trying to read the reflex (FRP framework) implementation source to understand it so I can port it to Lua, but I was having trouble
21:32 Hijiri FRP alone wouldn't help with layout though
21:35 electrodude512 Why don't you just add client-side scripting and the script GUIs in Lua?
21:35 electrodude512 s/the/then/
21:35 Hijiri you would still have to design the GUIs that run on the client side
21:35 rubenwardy yeah, xunto, android like
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21:35 sfan5 somebody needs to code it you know
21:35 sfan5 also sandboxing
21:36 Hijiri isn't it enough to gimp the global environment the script gets
21:36 electrodude512 yeah, sandboxing here sounds like the easy part to me
21:46 red-001 didn't someone make a pr that started implementing that?
21:46 Hijiri yeah
21:46 electrodude512 where?
21:46 Hijiri #4577
21:46 Hijiri no PR bot here
21:46 red-001 !title https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4577
21:46 MinetestBot red-001: WIP: Client-side mods by duckbrain · Pull Request #4577 · minetest/minetest · GitHub
21:49 whitephoenix hmm how could I make a "cool down" so that register_on_dieplayer doesn't get called all the time while in lava / fire?
21:50 red-001 shouldn't client-sided lua send the traceback to the server?
21:50 red-001 whitephoenix: thats an engine issue
21:50 Hijiri server triggers death callbacks any time the player is hit or changes health or joins while dead etc.
21:51 Hijiri there is a hack you can use
21:51 whitephoenix red-001, I know, but I'm making a death sound mod and don't want the sounds to play all at once
21:51 Hijiri keep a table and use it to record the set of players that are dead
21:51 Hijiri oh wait
21:51 red-001 there was a pr to fix it but this is minetest so you will have to wait a few months
21:51 Hijiri death callbacks get called before join callbacks right?
21:51 red-001 test ti?
21:51 red-001 it*
21:51 Hijiri I'm in class right now, don't want to open minetest
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21:52 Hijiri I remember seeing someone report that it does, though
21:52 Hijiri anyway I had a hack that you could use but I have to go since class ended
21:52 whitephoenix oh maybe I could use register_on_respawnplayer for this
21:53 whitephoenix yeah that sounds good actually
21:56 whitephoenix works beautifully
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23:03 PsychoVision Anyone on here got any hints or know of a mod which does +2 node vertical animated frames please?
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23:28 Megaf !server ping:least
23:28 MinetestBot Megaf: *** SurvivalWorld *** by Telesight | survivalworld.telesight.nl:30004 | Clients: 0/20, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 5ms
23:28 Megaf :O
23:28 Megaf oh no
23:28 Megaf oh no!
23:29 Megaf PsychoVision: try #Minetest-Project if you join NOW then I shall allow you to speak there
23:30 Megaf NOW will expire in 5 minute
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23:35 Megaf NOW has now expired
23:36 Megaf I shall go to bed indeed, good night folks
23:38 garywhite night Megaf
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