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02:00 YvesLevier Je n'arrive toujours pas à détecter un wagon.  J'ai installé le mod monorail.  Il y a bien un cart détector mais il ne s'active pas.  Si quelqu'un connaît un peu les mods de carts, svp me faire signe.  Je tourne en rond depuis 2 jours.
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02:18 someone434 hello
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02:20 someone434 I'm attempting to update some old simple mods but somewhat of a noob. I am getting a number of errors but right now trying to find out why I get this error "generateImage(): Could not load image" and it creates a dummy image, but the code looks right compared to other examples and the textures exist
02:20 someone434 actually, nevermind, may have just spotted it.
02:22 someone434 next issue, this error "Field "metadata_name": Deprecated; use on_add and metadata callbacks", is there any examples? I can't seem to find any examples.
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04:56 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Licenses: Change WTFPL to MIT (part 1) e9d26e2 https://git.io/vi3le (2016-09-05T05:54:33+01:00)
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09:25 Hijiri shamoanjac: I have an exploit in factions mod to pm
09:29 JTE the Earth's crust only goes down about 30,000 blocks before turning into magma, but humans have only ever mined about 3,900 blocks deep because it gets exponentially hotter the deeper you go and that's the depth where air conditioning is still an effective counter to the frying pan-hot walls.
09:30 JTE Minetesters have been braving the elements and digging deeper than any human dares venture in search of rainbows and poptarts. :'3 It's heart touching, nyan.
09:32 CSharpDev Nice. Been trying to figure out how to jump into Minetest development (to add C# support.)
09:33 JTE "C# support"? ... As in, Unity-style C# scripts instead of Lua scripts? ... Eesh. .-.;
09:34 CSharpDev Nah, just direct Mono Embedded Programming support.
09:35 CSharpDev Whereas you can initialize the JIT engine in Minetest and then load various C# mods which uses the functions within Minetest codes.
09:38 CSharpDev Mostly to learn more about C++/C# programming in general.
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11:57 aix is there a modern timber mod ?
12:07 Calinou CSharpDev: will probably never be merged
12:07 CSharpDev Pretty much expected that
12:08 CSharpDev but they probably be ok if it remains a branch or if I forked it
12:09 CSharpDev Since it would add an unneeded dependency of Mono
12:09 Calinou yes
12:14 Megaf CSharpDev: C# on MT? No way, sorry
12:15 Megaf the only thing that the community might accept is python
12:15 Megaf And it's only a tiny chance of that happening
12:15 * Megaf wants python on MT instead of Lua
12:16 est31 python is a very bad language
12:16 est31 and has no advantage over lua
12:17 Megaf hm, why not? why bad?
12:17 est31 it has an abnormal creep for conciseness
12:17 est31 which hurts readability
12:17 Megaf hm
12:18 est31 lua is nice
12:18 Megaf The only thing I have to admit is that Lua is very easy and readable
12:18 Megaf but we are not getting a good performance from it
12:18 est31 c# ... is a very large thing and I'm not really a big fan of the kind of OOP that c# stands for
12:18 Hirato_ you're going to get even worse from python
12:18 CSharpDev The point is, game emphasize on performance, but it shouldn't matter if people choose to add other languages to bind to Minetest.
12:18 Hirato_ at least lua has luajit to close the performance gap
12:19 * Hirato_ also doens't know how well pypy performs
12:19 est31 idk, multi language support has the danger of fracturing the community
12:20 CSharpDev Hmm programming community in general is already fractured, so might as well bring in more developers than turning them away, because of language preferences.
12:20 Hirato_ there'sa lot of hostility to Mono and friends though
12:20 Megaf maybe we should add mono! lol
12:20 CSharpDev Yep, so do C++
12:21 CSharpDev People have their own preferred languages.
12:21 Megaf Now, seriously, the two best contemporary languages IMHO at the moment are Go and maybe Rust
12:21 CSharpDev Thought Go was pretty bad.
12:21 CSharpDev Tho I agree on Rust
12:21 Hirato_ I actually like C#
12:22 Megaf They are like a good mix of Lua and C, in a way that they are not difficult and you can get amazing performance
12:22 CSharpDev Ditto, I am a die hard who managed to create binding for VLC plugin development directly to C# and so forth.
12:22 CSharpDev After succeeding that, I decided to try my hand with Minetest.
12:22 Hirato_ just wish Visual Studio wasn't so shit
12:23 CSharpDev Hmm Monodevelop any different?
12:23 * Hirato_ shrugs
12:23 Hirato_ I do windows/.NET stuff at work
12:23 Hirato_ and a good portion of my day is wasted waiting for visual studio to respond whenever it decides to freeze randomly
12:24 est31 Go is a nice language, Rust is nicer
12:24 est31 C# is okay, but not great
12:24 est31 better than java though
12:24 Hirato_ no argument there, hahaha
12:24 Hirato_ seriously, LINQ is the shit
12:24 CSharpDev I've been working with LLILC so it basically compile C# to native.
12:24 Megaf for me the best thing about Go it's the performance, it has very low overhead
12:25 Megaf Rust for me is just, you know, how a modern language should be
12:25 CSharpDev Yep
12:25 Megaf it allows you to make a fast and simple project or develop a how OS using it
12:25 est31 Hirato_, thats why I dont like IDEs xD
12:25 Megaf h/how/hole
12:25 CSharpDev Just have to wait a bit longer for people to finish Rust IDE sometime.
12:25 Megaf s/hole/whole
12:25 Hirato_ est31: don't have a real choice if I'm doing stuff on Windows :P
12:26 est31 yeah...
12:26 Megaf Hirato_: monodevolp, ajunta
12:26 est31 Hirato_, get a better computer :) tell your employer you are more productive with it (you will)
12:27 Hirato_ my work machine is already a high-rated quad core with 24GB of RAM
12:27 est31 does it have an ssd?
12:27 Hirato_ yeah
12:27 est31 oh, okay.
12:27 Hirato_ I suspect something might be wrong about it, it really doesn't perform super well
12:27 est31 that qualifies for "good computer" yeah
12:27 Megaf Hirato_: what CPU?
12:27 CSharpDev Hmm... 128 GB DDR4 Ram, 5820K i7 CPU, 970GTX for my workstation. Only to find out that it's stuck with Nvidia driver which appearently doesn't have Wayland support all. (Nvidia tried to be a special snowflake with their EGLStream.)
12:27 est31 either way, MSVC is 32 bit only, your 24 GB wont help you much xD
12:27 Hirato_ some intel one
12:28 Hirato_ est lies, I come in every morning to find VS using up all 24 GB of it :p
12:28 Hirato_ granted it's that VSHub process of theirs that does profilnig and shit in the background as the program runs
12:28 est31 Hirato_, https://visualstudio.uservoice.com/forums/121579-v​isual-studio-2015/suggestions/2255687-make-vs-scal​able-by-switching-to-64-bit?page=1&per_page=20
12:29 Hirato_ oh god
12:29 est31 but maybe its only part of MSVC which is 32 bit
12:29 Hirato_ fun fact, if I run a program, and its heap is about 40 MB in size, and then try to do a memory snapshot in VS
12:30 Hirato_ i usually get a "VS ram out of memory trying to analyse the dump" error
12:30 CSharpDev odd
12:30 * Hirato_ shrugs
12:30 Megaf Microsoft is a piece of shrub man
12:30 Hirato_ what else is new
12:31 CSharpDev They open source like half of their stuff lately.
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12:31 Hirato_ maybe they'll open source Embrace, Extend, Extinguish :3
12:32 Calinou they talked about open sourcing Windows once
12:32 CSharpDev Wouldn't work this time if they tried, Rust would just replace C# if they dare.
12:32 Calinou CSharpDev: Rust is a mess to read.
12:32 CSharpDev For now
12:32 Calinou honestly, this makes me not want to ever touch it
12:32 Calinou they don't feel like improving it, it seems
12:33 CSharpDev They're still a new language so it'll take a while.
12:33 Hirato_ just galvanize it so it doesn't rust and instead stays iron
12:33 Calinou well, I can just use Go for now
12:33 CSharpDev You could write transpiler to make a readable code.
12:33 Calinou CSharpDev: then people complain "you are fragmenting the community!"
12:33 CSharpDev It's something I've done a lot.
12:33 Calinou (see CoffeeScript)
12:34 Hirato_ doesn't that kind of defeat the point of making a language?
12:34 Calinou might as well transpile Rust to QuakeC :P
12:34 Hirato_ hahaha
12:34 CSharpDev Ehh, it's harder to fix a compiler than it is to edit a source code.
12:34 Hirato_ Calinou: shall we challenge graphitemaster :D
12:35 Megaf changing topic, I'm so proud of being on this list http://app-mtmm.rubenwardy.com/verified/
12:35 CSharpDev Most of the time you don't have the luxury of choosing a compiler.
12:36 Megaf I will take a look at my mods and remove old repos this week
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12:37 Calinou CSharpDev: I am considering C++14 too
12:38 Calinou apparently it has some conveniences too, though not as safe as Rust
12:38 Megaf About Minetest and languages, maybe we should just use this https://cmr.github.io/lanes/
12:38 CSharpDev I really dislike C++ truthfully.
12:38 Megaf Calinou: Hirato_ CSharpDev ^
12:38 Megaf !title
12:38 MinetestBot Megaf: Lua Lanes - multithreading in Lua
12:38 Megaf run each mod in it's own thread or multiple threads per mod
12:38 Megaf or multiple things on the engine in separate threads
12:40 CSharpDev I'd just use C# async. :)
12:40 Hirato_ been abusing Task.Run a bunch of late
12:40 Calinou Megaf: each-mod-in-its-own-thread was considered, but eventually ditched
12:40 Megaf Calinou: why? That would prevent a single mod to getting the whole thing stuck
12:41 Megaf from getting
12:41 Calinou ask in #minetest-dev
12:41 Hirato_ probably from the complexity of synchronising it all
12:41 CSharpDev ^
12:41 Hirato_ it get a lot harder when there's an API and people can do any random thing with it
12:42 Hirato_ it might be possible if the API was designed with threading in mind
12:43 Hirato_ might be too difficult to adapt it now and keep things compatable, especially if you wanted current levels of performance
12:44 est31 Rust is nice to read
12:44 est31 not a mess
12:45 est31 but thats taste probably
12:45 est31 C++ was a nice language back then when it was invented
12:46 est31 but it had mistakes, and you still suffer under them
12:46 CSharpDev Though it was originally a transpiler
12:46 Hirato_ C++ is nice if we pretend it's mostly C
12:46 CSharpDev Just wish it stayed that way so we can have at least a stable ABI instead of non-standardized abi
12:46 Calinou est31: sorry, but a language with !, :, |x| everywhere is not great IMO
12:46 Calinou I find it even harder to read than C++
12:46 Calinou especially since Rust programmers seem to like abusing high-end features
12:46 est31 hehe
12:47 est31 I'm not really on that high end feature abuse train
12:47 Calinou also: C++ can use Qt directly, Rust can't :)
12:47 est31 thats a point
12:47 est31 but only because Qt was written in c++
12:47 Calinou yes, if Qt was C it would be much easier to bind
12:47 est31 Qt isn't really c++ either way, its more of a dialect of C++
12:48 CSharpDev Well Rust can, you have to unmanagle the names for C++
12:48 CSharpDev But that is unstandardized part
12:48 Calinou est31: yes at this point it's pretty much a framework
12:48 est31 Rust doesnt have C++ interop
12:48 CSharpDev It have C Interop
12:48 Calinou but the only good one at doing GUIs really :|
12:48 CSharpDev So it possible
12:48 CSharpDev I've been doing the same for C#
12:48 est31 it has C interop yes
12:49 est31 Calinou, agreed.
12:49 est31 gimp toolkit doesnt make nice looking guis
12:49 Calinou the only real alternative I see is Electron, which is slow for large programs, at least currently
12:49 est31 not without lots of effort
12:49 * Calinou hopes that it'll be fast in 3-5 years
12:49 est31 I dont think electron will get fast
12:49 Calinou (Java used to be unbearably slow, now it's just fine...)
12:49 Megaf 13:47 <Calinou> especially since Rust programmers seem to like abusing high-end features
12:49 Megaf If you don't abuse Rust high end stuff then why use Rust?
12:50 Calinou to have a better compiler and dependency management than C++?
12:50 est31 thats a really big plus
12:50 Calinou C++ is horrible at dependency management and building :(
12:50 est31 +1
12:50 Calinou it's not standardized at all
12:50 Calinou nobody made the npm of C++ yet
12:50 Hirato_ I like a lot of D's features, if only it was more stable
12:50 Calinou (there are attempts, but none are really standard)
12:50 Calinou Hirato_: Nim! :D
12:50 CSharpDev They kind of do with Pkg-config actually, but even that is a turd
12:51 est31 <insert standards xkcd here>
12:51 est31 cargo "just works" thats really great
12:51 Calinou yes, even on Windows
12:51 Calinou Go isn't fully there either, the Go package manager isn't as good as Rust's
12:52 Calinou build system seems to be less standard
12:52 Hirato_ Calinou: apparently wasn't noteworthy enough for wikipedia, at aa few points
12:52 Hirato_ hahaha
12:52 est31 I just can compare cargo with npm and I think cargo is much better
12:52 Calinou Hirato_: when you meet a Wikipedia, play the Red Eclipse tune in front of them with a flute
12:52 Calinou Wikipedian*
12:52 est31 even though something like npm already would help C++ alot
12:52 Hirato_ Calinou: can I just punch them from being twats instead?
12:53 Calinou sure, you can then add "now THAT is notable!" :P
12:54 Hirato_ I'd swear a bunch of them have a vandetta to delete everything they can
12:54 Hirato_ sad to see they did delete the RE article :<
12:54 CSharpDev I noticed that too
12:55 CSharpDev Needless to be said I didn't donate to em afterward
12:55 Hirato_ hah
12:55 est31 I dont donate money to wikipedia
12:55 est31 they'll just waste it
12:56 est31 WMF is bloated
12:56 Hirato_ I don't want to either, mostly because there's too many agendas being fueled
12:56 Hirato_ and Jimmy's completely lost control over all of it
12:56 CSharpDev Then again, running Wikipedia is a bit expensive if it's the 7th top site of the web.
12:56 est31 (I generally dont donate because I rather help with work, but thats a different story)
12:57 est31 The actual costs for the website and administration are just a fraction of what wikimedia does
12:58 est31 most of it goes to employees who do ... idk what they do
12:58 Calinou Wikimedia employees use Macs \o/
12:58 Calinou they generally don't use Linux
12:58 Hirato_ rip
12:59 est31 interesting didnt know that
13:00 CSharpDev You know, Linux kind of suck if the only choice for GUI are either GTK (We'll break the API every 6 months, GG) or QT (C++ or binding from hell)
13:00 Hirato_ 6 months? are you certain they're that patient? :P
13:00 CSharpDev Probably not
13:00 CSharpDev x_x
13:00 Hirato_ hahaha
13:01 est31 lool
13:01 Hirato_ Qt seems rather buggy at the moment too :<
13:01 CSharpDev Currently I'm working on new GUI framework
13:01 Hirato_ plasmashell is leaking memory here like no tomorrow :<
13:01 CSharpDev But waiting on Nvidia to fix their bloodly driver
13:01 CSharpDev so I could use EGL on Wayland
13:01 est31 CSharpDev, I hope this flatpak / snappy / appimage stuff will improve the situation a bit
13:01 CSharpDev (I got binding for it on C# to work properly.)
13:01 Hirato_ CSharpDev: does wayland not work inside your X session?
13:02 CSharpDev Nope, it's EGL issue
13:02 CSharpDev Not wayland itself perse
13:02 CSharpDev per se*
13:02 CSharpDev Nvidia implemented their own EGLStream instead of GBMStream
13:02 est31 CSharpDev, idk whether you tried yet but wayland wont work with minetest either
13:02 CSharpDev WHile every other driver use GBM
13:03 est31 because of missing features
13:04 CSharpDev How come they don't use SDL2?
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13:04 est31 minetest uses irrlicht
13:04 est31 no sdl
13:04 CSharpDev yea
13:05 CSharpDev Btw game would work on Wayland, because of XWayland
13:05 Megaf it doesnt
13:05 Megaf no mouse lock
13:06 CSharpDev oh right
13:06 est31 ^
13:06 est31 thats what I meant with missing features
13:06 CSharpDev Ah kk
13:06 est31 XWayland may get pointer warp emulation in the future
13:06 est31 but its not there yet, so doesnt work
13:06 Hirato_ even SDL won't solve that ;p
13:06 Calinou gotta like how Fedora claims Wayland to mostly be ready when it lacks such basic features :P
13:06 est31 yup :)
13:07 CSharpDev Lol, pretty much
13:07 Hirato_ the cancers known as Pulseaudio and Systemd did basically come from that camp
13:07 Hirato_ :<
13:07 CSharpDev I really want to avoid having to work with X11
13:07 CSharpDev x_x
13:07 Hirato_ third disaster will be the charm :<
13:07 est31 but I've heard prophecies that they won't continue with it till the end
13:08 * Megaf wonders if GNUStep/WindowMaker actually depend on X11
13:08 Calinou PulseAudio makes working with fancy audio setups much easier
13:08 est31 but ship with x11 like with fedora 24
13:08 Calinou (USB, SPDIF, 5.1, 7.1, whatever)
13:08 Hirato_ Calinou: but first is has to actually work
13:08 est31 Hirato_, SDL will solve it because it can abstract over it
13:08 est31 Hirato_, theoretically the mouse lock bug can be solved at an irrlicht level, with minimal help from minetest
13:09 Hirato_ Calinou: and it shouldn't have taken 5+ years to achieve even basic working status
13:09 est31 Hirato_, if irrlicht is ported to wayland, one could use its pointer locking apis
13:09 Calinou Hirato_: software needs beta testers in order to evolve and be good :P
13:09 Hirato_ est31: but do said apis even exist yet?
13:09 est31 Yeah I agree with Calinou about pulseaudio
13:09 Calinou that's why lots of Linux tech is pushed on the desktop early
13:09 Hirato_ Calinou: I don't appreciate being a beta tester on stable release distros :p
13:10 Calinou truth is, very few users use beta releases of distros :(
13:10 est31 Hirato_, they do exist in mutter (the GTK compositor) since march i think , and in weston since a few weeks
13:13 Hirato_ and what about real compositors like kwin, and e18? :3c
13:14 est31 dunno whether kwin actually works on wayland
13:15 Hirato_ it does
13:15 Calinou Hirato_: I reported a KDE bug, it got fixed in about 1.5 week
13:15 Calinou (additional system tray icons going away after a reboot or re-login)
13:15 Hirato_ haha
13:15 Calinou there was a workaround, not obvious for casual users though
13:15 Calinou this is the kind of problems that hinder desktop Linux usage :(
13:17 Megaf Calinou: KDE here always set the sound volume to max a milisecond before playing any sound
13:17 Megaf so at any notification my ears bleed
13:17 Hirato_ can't say I've ever had that problem
13:17 Megaf That's the only thing preventing me from using KDE on this laptop
13:17 Calinou I don't have that issue here, although it frequently doesn't "catch" my USB audio headset, have to unplug it then plug it back
13:17 Calinou Megaf: did you report it?
13:18 Hirato_ Calinou: I thought you said pulseaudio made it betterer :3c
13:18 Calinou Hirato_: bugs do happen
13:18 Calinou ALSA is barely ever touched for years, so obviously it's very stable
13:18 Calinou but also very limited
13:18 Megaf Calinou: not sure if I should, might be very old bug long fixed, I'm on Debian after all with ancient software
13:18 Calinou it's the C of audio systems :)
13:18 est31 lol yeah
13:18 Calinou Megaf: yeah don't bother on old software
13:19 Hirato_ does that make OSS assembler? :p
13:21 Megaf you mean Assembly
13:21 Megaf assembler is the GCC for Assembly
13:21 est31 there exists a language called macro assembler
13:21 Hirato_ does it just use extra large font?
13:23 Megaf lol
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13:32 * Jordach nearly bricked android by using OTA updates
13:32 Hirato_ could've been anbrick :3
13:32 Jordach nah fam, there's an experimental build of TWRP for my phone, but it's not officially supported yet
13:32 Jordach TWRP picked up the OTA and just got on with it like nothing happened
13:33 CSharpDev So we all can agree on same thing that GTK needed to be replaced by something better for C Language.
13:34 * Jordach coughs
13:34 Jordach QT5
13:34 CSharpDev That's C++
13:34 Megaf Jordach: I got mine stuck in a boot loop with OTA once, had to hard reset it to fix
13:35 Hirato_ ChanServ: it's called EFL
13:35 Hirato_ er.. CSharpDev
13:36 Hirato_ if C is a strict requirement
13:38 Hirato_ alternatively you can do backto motif, or maybe even... Xaw3D :D
13:38 CSharpDev Lol
13:39 Hirato_ alternatively, you can use OpenGL I guess https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUlAQZB9Ng :P
13:39 CSharpDev Or create a new display server, true
13:41 Hirato_ let's not go crazy, SDL would be hte abgstraction layer :P
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14:20 CSharpDev Hmm at least I figured out most of the code in Minetest. X_X Anyhow, I'll turn in for tonight. Good night everyone.
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16:36 LionLAD Well its back to school tomorrow... Yay :(
16:37 aix yay
16:37 LionLAD What grade ya going into air
16:37 LionLAD Aic
16:37 sfan5 is summer break longer in the us?
16:37 LionLAD Aix
16:37 LionLAD I'm Canadian
16:38 LionLAD I start Sept 6
16:38 sfan5 well i've had like three weeks of school already
16:38 LionLAD I believe some states start school August
16:38 sfan5 (germany)
16:38 LionLAD Oh never knew you were German haha  cool
16:38 aix sfan5: im sorry what
16:39 aix you're in school?
16:39 sfan5 still
16:39 sfan5 yes
16:39 LionLAD Ya I guess out school systems are diffrent
16:39 aix ...
16:39 LionLAD Sfan5 I think we all figured you were older and out of school
16:39 aix yeah
16:39 sfan5 aix: not much longer though
16:39 aix i had you for 20-25
16:39 sfan5 that's too high :p
16:39 aix ...
16:39 aix 18?
16:39 LionLAD Really how old are you XD
16:40 aix at first i thought around 30
16:40 sfan5 18 is closer
16:40 aix 16
16:40 LionLAD So 17
16:40 aix 16 probably
16:40 sfan5 i'm not going to say yes or no
16:40 LionLAD If I tell will you Tell XD
16:40 sfan5 no
16:40 sfan5 i'm not playing games :d
16:40 sfan5 s/d/D/
16:40 LionLAD Fine haha
16:41 LionLAD Well I won't say my age but I'll say I'm a senior this year so I'm sure that says ot haha
16:41 aix it's wierd how people think age is sensitive information
16:41 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:41 LionLAD I'm 17 rn
16:42 LionLAD Going into grade 12 tomorrow
16:42 aix woah sensitive information
16:42 LionLAD Its weird cause like I dont have that feeling of I rule this school I just feel like I'm a grade 9 or somthing
16:43 LionLAD I don't feel like a senior gaha
16:43 LionLAD Haha
16:43 sfan5 maybe you should go back to grade 9 then
16:43 sfan5 have fun a little longer
16:44 LionLAD Ha no
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16:45 LionLAD Soooo
16:45 LionLAD I'm actuly really excited cause I'm study to be an automotive tech
16:47 LionLAD I'm good at it so my auto teacher agreed to let me help on his tvr 1600
16:47 sfan5 whats that
16:48 LionLAD Its a old British car but it's beautiful
16:48 LionLAD It weighs like the same as a smart car
16:48 BrandonReese If it's an old british car then there is probably plenty to fix on it :)
16:48 LionLAD And has a 6.7 v8 and its just nice
16:49 LionLAD BrandonReese: he's been fixing it for sometime now and it's in really good condition I'm helping him with the engine swap and the final electrical
16:50 BrandonReese that sounds like fun. I almost went into auto tech but decided to go the computer programming route. If things go sound with this that's probably what I'll go back to
16:51 BrandonReese go sound = go south
16:54 LionLAD Mhmm
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16:55 Krock LionLAD, what's your name? where does your house live? what's your phone number? what's your favourite color?
16:55 Krock [start of sensitive information]
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17:05 LionLAD Krock: My name Bo Phillips, my house lives in Brazil,  my number 1-800-226-4563, and my favorite colour is cyan
17:05 LionLAD The cyan parts the only true thing if you didn't realise
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17:06 Krock are you aware that the channel is logged? :/ I feel kinda guilty now
17:06 LionLAD That stuff ain't true
17:08 LionLAD Just the cyan part
17:08 Krock why are cyan parts the only true thing?
17:08 LionLAD Cause cyans my favorite colour
17:09 Krock oh k
17:09 LionLAD My real names jacov
17:09 aix woah
17:09 LionLAD Jacob but I'd never say my last name
17:09 Krock don't even wanna know srsly
17:09 aix jacob spires imo
17:09 LionLAD IDC realy
17:09 Krock jacob bocaj
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17:10 LionLAD Id never say my last name
17:10 LionLAD But my first name IDC like how many Jacobs are in North America it's not like I'm really giving any dangerous personal information
17:11 Krock topic = random.next(0, 10000)
17:12 LionLAD So how bout that weather
17:12 aix lol
17:14 LionLAD I had like 400 ping there for a sec lol on free node
17:16 Krock that's impossible as you would get disconnected with > 250s
17:29 Calinou <aix> it's wierd how people think age is sensitive information
17:29 Calinou I used to be 25 on the Internet, and 12 in real life :D
17:29 aix it is
17:29 aix me too
17:29 aix i still am
17:29 aix wait what
17:29 aix you too?
17:29 aix why is everyone so young
17:30 Calinou I'm 18 now
17:32 Krock Calinou, lol. I think the internet makes everybody feel a bit younger
17:33 Krock so 12 on the internet and 25 IRL :P
17:34 LionLAD Krock: I had 368ms
17:34 LionLAD Oh 358 that time
17:38 LionLAD Oh over 500ms that time
17:38 LionLAD Guess ms arnt seconds though
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18:26 BrandonReese LionLad, your last name start with a C?
18:26 LionLAD No
18:26 LionLAD Why ya ask
18:26 BrandonReese Ok. Just testing my Internet stalking skills based on the info you've given.
18:28 Krock BrandonReese, your last name starts with 'R'
18:28 BrandonReese No
18:29 BrandonReese :)
18:30 Krock stalking isn't easy :(
18:30 BrandonReese Nope, not as easy as I thought it would be
18:31 LionLAD Lol
18:31 LionLAD What information did you base me off of Brandon
18:31 LionLAD You wanna know what I hate about windows and its the only thing
18:31 BrandonReese First name, city your IP address geolocates to and that you're going to tech school.
18:31 LionLAD God damn Anti-Malware service executable
18:32 LionLAD I use a VPN
18:32 Krock BrandonReese, I'd like to know his cat's name
18:32 sfan5 LionLAD: are you sure?
18:32 BrandonReese You VPN to a home cable service?
18:33 sfan5 .home.cgocable.net doesn't look like a vpn
18:33 LionLAD Haha guess not
18:33 LionLAD Must have turned it off
18:33 BrandonReese I think I found him a he's just covering :)
18:33 LionLAD Where am I then?
18:33 sfan5 it doesn't geolocate to any city btw
18:34 sfan5 oh wait it odes
18:34 sfan5 does*
18:34 LionLAD Wait your real names kitten sfan XD
18:34 BrandonReese Ha******, Ontario, Canada
18:34 LionLAD Okay
18:35 LionLAD Don't say aloud jeez
18:35 BrandonReese I starred it out
18:35 LionLAD Ya but still
18:35 Krock hehe, add this to a trivia question and let the people guess it :P
18:35 sfan5 ha?
18:35 sfan5 this other service says Ancaster
18:36 Krock (answer_service1 + answer_service2) / 2 will give you an accurate result
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18:39 lion Lol there
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18:39 lion And my Irc blew and now I have to use Lion till LionLAD leaves
18:39 sfan5 now that's a vpn
18:39 lion Haha ya
18:39 lion Now I'm in Paris France
18:39 lion I usually keep it on but I forgot to woops lol
18:40 BrandonReese iplocation.net says California, but that still works.
18:40 lion Oh there we go
18:42 Krock you could do /ns ghost <nick> <pass> on a registered account
18:43 agaran good evening
18:43 LionLAD I keep registering LionLAD
18:43 LionLAD But then it like un registers
18:44 LionLAD There I did it again
18:44 LionLAD Maybe cause I never verified it XD
18:45 agaran it might be;)
18:45 LionLAD Well I jsut did haha
18:45 LionLAD Hey agar an
18:46 LionLAD Did you wanna run my ip and track down where I live too
18:46 agaran no.. I can just read backlog;)
18:46 LionLAD Lol
18:47 LionLAD Brandon didn't need to say it aloud for homicidle people to know though XD
18:48 BrandonReese Sorry. Rest assured that the majority of people in the world are not homicidal maniacs
18:48 LionLAD Lol
18:48 LionLAD Sure
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20:16 Hi_to_all doing homework
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20:22 Hi_to_all hi
20:23 Hi_to_all its quiet
20:26 Hi_to_all hey aix
20:27 agaran it is quite quiet here today indeed
20:27 Hi_to_all yes it is
20:32 Hi_to_all hey its monday everyones busy with homework like me
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20:56 Megaf agaran: can you whois me and tell me if it shows lots of channels Im on please?
20:56 Megaf agaran: and also, whats pid linux?
20:57 Hi_to_all helllo
20:57 agaran shows only #minetest on this net, and pid is process identifier,
20:57 Megaf Hi Hi_to_all
20:57 Megaf agaran, I know what pid is
20:57 Hi_to_all :P
20:57 Megaf agaran: oh, I mean, pld Linux, sorry
20:57 Megaf 21:56 * [Whois] agaran is agaran!~agaran@pld-linux/agaran (Unknown)
20:58 agaran Megaf: well, some linux distribution but I am not active there anymore.. day has too few hours
20:58 Hi_to_all morgan.freenode.net [Chicago, IL, USA] agaran is this your server?
20:59 agaran well this is one I am connected to..
20:59 Megaf Hi_to_all: freenode has lots of servers around the globe
20:59 Hi_to_all ok :P
21:00 Hi_to_all My homework is inedependence XD
21:01 Hi_to_all 5th grade history XD
21:02 Hi_to_all minetest dev is very quiet
21:03 Hi_to_all brb
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22:39 LionLAD May I have a cloak?
22:40 Megaf LionLAD: heya
22:41 Megaf LionLAD: /msg nickserv help register
22:43 LionLAD Megaf: you know me
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22:52 Megaf !server Megaf
22:52 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 2/20, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms
22:52 Megaf hey Taoki
22:53 Taoki hi
22:53 Megaf brb
22:57 CSharpDev So you can only make mod purely in LUA, but not in C or C++?
22:57 LionLAD I mod in c++
22:58 CSharpDev Got any example to illustrate how it's done?
22:59 LionLAD You can look at other mods as a start
23:03 CSharpDev Been looking at some of them so far, all of them I've seen are purely in LUA.
23:03 LionLAD Lua is the file it reads
23:04 LionLAD Init.lua
23:04 LionLAD Which can be coded in with c c++
23:05 LionLAD C++ is a versatile code so it translates
23:05 CSharpDev That clarify what I'm seeing.
23:08 CSharpDev Because I was looking into Minetest and it had me thinking if it's remotely possible to load C/C++ binaries as mod, because all of the codes in it is tightly integrated for Lua.
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23:41 Megaf g'night folks
23:41 LionLAD Night Megaf
23:42 CSharpDev gnight
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