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00:01 Hijiri well, I'm still only taking one heart of damage
00:01 Hijiri oh, that's default also
00:01 Nosrick_ Yeah, this is the broken code.
00:01 Nosrick_ The previous code was working in one way, broken in another.
00:02 Hijiri the "Got Luaentity" message isn't being printed
00:02 Nosrick_ And I have no idea why.
00:02 Hijiri so wait, it is, sorry
00:02 Nosrick_ Ah, okay.
00:02 Nosrick_ I was gonna say, it was working on mine.
00:04 Hijiri ah, this is a problem with mobs
00:04 Hijiri it only copies the fields it needs, no additional ones
00:05 Nosrick_ Damn it.
00:05 Hijiri you can complain to tenplus in his thread
00:05 Hijiri or on github
00:05 Nosrick_ Is there a way for me to set the definition after it's been initialised?
00:06 Hijiri yes, use the hack you were using before
00:06 Nosrick_ Okay, will do!
00:06 Hijiri manually setting the entry in registered_entities
00:07 Nosrick_ It makes me feel like a wizard when I figure these things out.
00:08 Hijiri when it happens to me I feel mad that the hack is necessary in the first place
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00:11 Nosrick_ Eh, these things happen when working with other people's code.
00:12 Nosrick_ I'm off to bed for the night, I think.
00:12 Nosrick_ Night, night.
00:13 Hijiri NIGHT
00:13 Hijiri night*
00:13 Hijiri sorry
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01:11 Darkside_ slither.io that's a fun Snake-like game, check it out if you don't know that game yet! :) i gotta practice :D
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01:17 Hijiri I saw it mentioned
01:17 Hijiri not here though
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07:57 Nosrick Morning folks
08:03 sfan5 morning
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09:24 JamesTait Good morning all! ¬†Happy Friday, and happy World Elephant Day! ūüėÉ ¬†ūüźė
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09:54 Passant The submitted avatar is 94 pixels wide and 100 pixels high. Avatars must  be at least 32 pixels wide and 32 pixels high, but no larger than 64  pixels wide and 64 pixels high. <- this is really misplaced in the year 2016! also this damn bbcode joke. why not markdown? grrrrrrrrr.....
09:55 Passant what the... The submitted avatar is 30 pixels wide and 32 pixels high. Avatars must  be at least 32 pixels wide and 32 pixels high, but no larger than 64  pixels wide and 64 pixels high.
09:55 Passant ah, i missread something
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10:25 Fixer Calinou: want to hear something funny?
10:27 Fixer will be back
10:30 aix are there any neater solutions to server auto-restarters than `for i in seq{0 .. 10}; do minetestserver; done ?
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10:35 Calinou Passant: we use phpBB, we are not going to switch to Markdown…
10:35 Calinou also, 64√ó64 avatars ensure they aren't overly huge, this is perfectly fine IMO
10:35 Calinou maybe we could have 80√ó80 or something like that
10:36 Fixer Calinou: removing avast speed ups full boot time from 300 sec to 150-160 sec
10:37 Calinou heh
10:37 Calinou my boot time is like 20 seconds here :p
10:37 Fixer Calinou: on linux?
10:37 Calinou both Linux and Windows boot in ~20 seconds
10:38 Fixer Calinou: my WinXP in vm boots in 30 seconds or so, but this garbage w7 needs 160 :/
10:38 Fixer Calinou: linux boot is much faster btw
10:39 Calinou Windows 8 and later can boot very fast with the Fast Boot feature
10:39 Calinou which is basically hybrid suspend instead of shutdown
10:39 Calinou but it messes with dual booting
10:40 Fixer Calinou: yes
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10:53 Passant Calinou: a forum would be able to modify the images by it self. I dont know phpBB so i don't know how flexible this kind of forum is. bbcode is not that simple and awkward in my opinion. Why not switch to something well known, good working and simple?
10:53 Calinou that requires having a dependency on libgd :)
10:53 Calinou Markdown didn't exist when phpBB was created
10:53 Calinou you do realize phpBB is pretty much legacy software by now? all the cool guys use Discourse now :)
10:53 Calinou but we chose not to
10:54 aix Calinou: 20 damn seconds?
10:54 aix christ
10:54 aix and i thought mine was slow
10:54 Krock good. Again a forum switch would be unneccessary
10:55 Passant well i decided to use vanilla but flarum was also interesting (there is also nodebb but it is really randim written and caused kernel panics on another community). so does this mean phpbb don't get updates?
10:55 Passant *random
10:55 Calinou phpBB doesn't get a lot of updates, but it does
10:55 Calinou but I'd say it's pretty much in maintenance mode
10:56 Calinou also, if the non-responsiveness and dated look of phpBB bothers you, there's this: https://comboot.io/
10:56 Calinou but I don't think we will switch around forum themes
10:57 Passant mmh i decided also to use a bootstrap theme, but mainly to fit the mainpage style :P https://forum.illuna-minetest.tk/
10:59 Passant my problem is not the theme but the usualibility (i hope i wrote this word right). it would be a bit enhancement to have a markdown feature (just for an example) or auto-scaled images after upload like on 98% of all the other plattforms without forcing the poor users to do it by there own
10:59 Passant *a big
11:01 Fixer Calinou: switched back date to 2010 and installed old version of avast without BS just for test, updated definitions, boot time increased +40-50 seconds
11:01 Passant maybe phpbb is well known and stable, but if it lacks some important modern features, i guess it wasn't the best choice :/
11:01 Calinou we switched in 2014
11:02 Calinou there's a big problem if you switch to Discourse: does it support BBCode? we need to because lots of posts use BBCode
11:02 Calinou I presume it does…
11:03 Passant i don't know, i had the feeling that discourse is too complex for alot of users, so i searched something else
11:04 Passant and, i am not a big developer, but i think it would be possible to convert the posts :P
11:05 Fixer whats wrong with phpbb?
11:05 Calinou Fixer: it's stuck in 2005 mostly
11:05 Passant http://jondum.github.io/BBC‚Äčode-To-Markdown-Converter/
11:05 Calinou but don't worry, you can do much worse than it
11:06 sfan5 "Why not switch to something well known, good working and simple?"
11:06 Calinou even vBulletin can be stuck in 1999 :)
11:06 Calinou https://www.doomworld.com/vb/
11:06 sfan5 you mean like bbcode?
11:06 Fixer Calinou: but what is the problem?
11:06 Fixer what features we miss?
11:07 Passant for example, a simple and popular formatting method of posts i guess. i think it is important to make it simple for all the users and bbcode for example is everything else...
11:08 sfan5 no
11:08 sfan5 bbcode is well known (with forum software)
11:08 sfan5 bbcode works fine too
11:08 sfan5 it maybe not be as minimalistic as markdown but it's still simple
11:08 Passant minetest is a game many young people plays.
11:09 sfan5 those "young people" know neither markdown nor bbcode
11:09 Passant but as i experience they understand the basic syntax very fast
11:10 Passant also the editors are much easier then the editors for bbcode
11:10 sfan5 how is [i]text[/i] harder than *text* ?
11:10 Passant many more keys to press for example
11:10 sfan5 also the editor thing is not a problem of the standard, it's a problem of tooling
11:10 sfan5 but that doesn't make it harder
11:10 sfan5 you are talking about understanding
11:11 Passant maybe it is different with an englich layouted keyboard but for me, with a german keyboard, it isnt handy
11:11 sfan5 it isn't any harder to understand
11:11 sfan5 and that's a regional problem
11:11 Passant it was just a thinking
11:11 Passant we could vote :D
11:11 Passant (in the forum)
11:12 sfan5 that would come at a disadvantage to the potential people who will join the forum in the future
11:12 Passant i tell about what i experienced over the time, you may have a different look about, but i am pretty sure that many users run in trouble with bbcode
11:13 sfan5 i haven't seen people have trouble with bbcode?
11:13 sfan5 s/?//
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11:20 Passant i am unable to continue fighting for my point since my english reach its borders. so i will do something else now.
11:23 sfan5 Passant: wir k√∂nnen das auch auf deutsch weiterf√ľhren
11:23 sfan5 just kidding
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11:27 Krock try klingon
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11:31 aix ^
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11:35 Anony hello
11:35 Anony i just started playing this game
11:35 Anony is there a full list of controls somewhere
11:35 Krock Hello and yes
11:36 Krock Press ESC in-game and you'll see a button to change the keys
11:36 Anony where can i find it? thanks
11:36 Anony ah i see
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11:37 Krock if there's a key missing, you can look into the minetest.conf.example file and search for "KEY_"
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12:18 Megaf !server Megaf
12:18 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/24, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms
12:18 Megaf Hi everybody
12:18 Megaf Anyone reading me?
12:18 Megaf MinetestBot: you there?
12:18 Megaf !up mt.megaf.info 30003
12:18 MinetestBot mt.megaf.info:30003 is up (7ms)
12:18 Megaf :S
12:18 Megaf oh, finally
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12:35 Krock Megaf, I'm not reading you
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13:11 MinetestBot [git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Update AppData file with more URLs and keywords c4e77b4 https://git.io/v60i8 (2016-08-12T15:04:02+02:00)
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13:21 Megaf !server 178.79.130.6 30003
13:21 MinetestBot Megaf: No results
13:21 Megaf !up 178.79.130.6 30003
13:21 MinetestBot 178.79.130.6:30003 is up (7ms)
13:22 MinetestBot [git] Thomas--S -> minetest/minetest: Add an [opacity:<r> texture modifier. Makes the base image transparent according to the given ratio. r must be between 0 and 255. 0 means totally transparent. 255 means totally opaque. Useful for texture overlaying. f21dae6 https://git.io/v60Ph (2016-08-12T15:20:30+02:00)
13:23 Megaf --- 178.79.130.6 ping statistics ---
13:23 Megaf 50 packets transmitted, 50 received, 0% packet loss, time 9799ms
13:23 Megaf rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.046/0.050/0.080/0.011 ms
13:23 Megaf Not bad
13:25 Megaf --- 178.79.130.6 ping statistics ---
13:25 Megaf 100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 19878ms
13:25 Megaf rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 21.336/25.847/130.331/13.191 ms
13:25 Megaf but this is the real result
13:25 Megaf 24ms avg, not bad still
13:25 Megaf !server Calinou
13:25 MinetestBot Megaf: Calinou [Europe/Paris] (survival - minimal mods) | hugo.pro:30002 | Clients: 1/32, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 10ms
13:26 Calinou cool, 1 client
13:26 Megaf --- hugo.pro ping statistics ---
13:26 Megaf 100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 19847ms
13:26 Megaf rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 155.622/158.262/167.858/1.900 ms
13:26 Megaf Calinou: ^
13:27 Calinou you're in the US?
13:27 Megaf Dublin. Ireland
13:27 Megaf my server is in London
13:27 Calinou --- hugo.pro ping statistics ---
13:27 Calinou 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4006ms
13:27 Calinou rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 45.307/45.844/47.260/0.744 ms
13:27 Calinou I get this
13:27 Calinou (I'm in France, server is in France)
13:27 Megaf I guess the link Dublin - London is much better than the link Dublin - France
13:28 Calinou probably
13:28 Megaf 9 steps to my server, 14 to yours
13:28 Megaf from my home
13:29 sfan5 Calinou: >rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 30.007/30.241/30.459/0.187 ms
13:29 sfan5 why is your ping to france so bad
13:30 Calinou sfan5: my ping is not great, even though I have decent throughput (ADSL)
13:30 Calinou it used to be better in my old house
13:30 sfan5 how much?
13:30 Calinou 11/1
13:30 Calinou I had 5/0.5 before, and better ping
13:30 Calinou despite the line being longer (!)
13:30 sfan5 " decent "
13:30 sfan5 i have 100/40 with vdsl
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13:30 sfan5 though you can call 10/1 decent when you look at how good internet is in germany
13:30 sfan5 hint: it's not good
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13:35 Megaf I have no idea what kind of broadband we have here
13:35 Megaf I think is some kind of cable
13:35 Megaf the coaxial thingy
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13:36 Megaf my IP is 2a02:8084:1080:db00:e57e:53ed:937c:db7f ping me!
13:36 Megaf or 37.228.240.94
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13:38 sfan5 you're with a cable company owned by liberty global
13:38 Calinou no response on IPv4
13:38 Calinou none on IPv6 either
13:38 Calinou (my ISP supports IPv6)
13:38 Megaf I suspected that
13:38 Megaf the modem must be blocking ping
13:38 sfan5 pinging v6 works here
13:39 sfan5 virgin media it is
13:39 Megaf you know your are a nerd when you spend you afternoon IPv6 pining people you know from IRC
13:39 Megaf pinging*
13:40 Megaf !seen soft_libre
13:40 MinetestBot Megaf: soft_libre was last seen at 2014-10-31 04:16:48 UTC on #minetest
13:41 Megaf <ACTION> 2016-08-12 09:58:57: [Server] Server: User soft_libre at xx.xx.xx.xx supplied wrong password (auth mechanism: SRP).
13:41 Megaf =/
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13:43 Fixer sorry for in and outs, sex with windows
13:45 Megaf just stop using that thing
13:46 Fixer one day i will dump this garbage
13:46 * Megaf dumped windows in 2003
13:47 * Megaf had been using Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition from TechNet by then
13:47 * Megaf was quite happy with Windows Server, until one day it crashed and self destroyed it's file system and Megaf lost all the stuff he had in the hard drives
13:48 Megaf I still think Windows Server 2003 is the best windows ever
13:49 Megaf lighter and faster than XP, and very robust (for windows that is)
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14:04 sfan5 >lost all the stuff he had in the hard drives
14:04 sfan5 but you had backups, right?
14:05 APNG >backups
14:05 APNG lol
14:06 aix the chess mod is like lichess but better
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14:17 Calinou I'd say worse :P
14:17 Calinou it does not feature analysis or AI
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14:46 agrecascino shamoanjac,
14:49 shamoanjac agrecascino,
14:49 shamoanjac I wasn't home yesterday
14:50 shamoanjac didn't come home until this morning
14:50 agrecascino shamoanjac, factions is completely broken
14:52 shamoanjac how so?
14:52 shamoanjac please use the github bug tracker
14:52 shamoanjac so that I can check when I have time
14:54 agrecascino shamoanjac, /f never shows you being in a faction
14:54 shamoanjac any major bug?
14:54 shamoanjac I'm aware of this one already
14:54 agrecascino you occasionally get dropped out of your own faction
14:54 shamoanjac well it's not really a bug, it's more a lack of feature
14:54 shamoanjac okay, what happens with the last one?
14:55 agrecascino it seems to be mostly rnadom
14:55 agrecascino random*
14:55 agrecascino but it seems to have something to do restarts
14:56 agrecascino shamoanjac, also can you make it so even without flags, factions can claim a few chunks
14:57 agrecascino and having more members increases that
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14:57 shamoanjac no, and it's a terrible idea
14:57 shamoanjac I mean
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14:57 shamoanjac yes, but it's a terrible idea
14:57 agrecascino it worked in MC factions?
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14:57 agrecascino maybe just a baseline one chunk?
14:57 shamoanjac yes, because Minecraft checks for account validity
14:58 shamoanjac unless you play on an "offline" server, you can only play with a single account
14:58 agrecascino shamoanjac, how about having an exponential decay function to calculate how much you get from new members
14:58 shamoanjac just create several factions and that's it
14:59 shamoanjac we already talked about free claiming
14:59 agrecascino how about 1 free claim?
14:59 shamoanjac it's just not possible in Minetest
14:59 shamoanjac enough to cause havoc and wreckage
14:59 agrecascino fine...
14:59 agrecascino anyway
14:59 agrecascino it seems that you cant craft power banners
14:59 agrecascino or death banners
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15:00 shamoanjac I hadn't finished death banners
15:00 shamoanjac power banners had a bug because of the steel base craft recipe
15:00 shamoanjac did you update the mod?
15:01 agrecascino no
15:02 shamoanjac that's it
15:02 shamoanjac there was a typo so the steel base required default:steel_block instead of default:steelblock
15:02 agrecascino alright
15:03 shamoanjac did you also update to the latest  of factions?
15:03 agrecascino yes
15:03 shamoanjac ok
15:03 shamoanjac I added a bit of verbosity
15:03 shamoanjac (yesterday)
15:04 agrecascino it didn't seem like you pushed that to your repo
15:04 shamoanjac oops
15:04 shamoanjac yep, it's that
15:04 shamoanjac I'll add the "/f" showing you your faction the
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15:06 shamoanjac also faction chat (not tested) which relies on a Faction.broadcast() method (tested and seemingly working well)
15:10 shamoanjac pushed
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15:14 shamoanjac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7u7pXusBbM
15:14 shamoanjac this mod in Minetest when
15:15 agrecascino shamoanjac, you broke it
15:15 shamoanjac what's the error?
15:15 agrecascino expected to close with } on line 543
15:16 shamoanjac file?
15:16 agrecascino chatcommands.lua
15:17 shamoanjac shouldn't be there
15:17 shamoanjac ah right
15:17 shamoanjac the comma
15:18 shamoanjac pushed
15:22 agrecascino shamoanjac, have your finished death banners yet?
15:22 shamoanjac no
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15:56 Fixer done
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17:50 SusWombat Hey
17:50 SusWombat Are there any programming mods for minetest?
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18:00 sofar SusWombat: mesecons has microcontroller stuff
18:00 SusWombat sofar, is it good?
18:01 sofar depends on your expectations, I suppose, but yeah, you can build fun things with it
18:01 SusWombat sofar, im bored an wanna do something with programming or logic gates
18:02 SusWombat second problem i dont have a cool idea yet ^^
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18:02 sofar SusWombat: then it sounds like mesecons will be what you want :)
18:06 Fixer why the hell explorer reads uninstall.exes of various kinds at boot taking up valuable seconds?
18:06 Fixer wth
18:06 Fixer i need to go deeper
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18:28 Fixer 27 reboots :S
18:30 Fixer "Fix broken icons and reset icon cache in Windows 10 - Winaero"
18:30 Fixer jeez, still not fixed
18:31 Fixer how many decades?
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19:35 Calinou rofl, people are trying to build a Nether portal on my server
19:35 Calinou https://lut.im/Bi2obEgvpM/mdKCo8NoYCgZe5sO.png
19:36 thePalindrome Wonder what they'll say when it doesn't "work"
19:39 Fixer_ boot speed improved even further
19:40 Fixer_ Calinou: went from 300 sec to 130-135 sec of full boot
19:41 thePalindrome iirc my boot is about 90 seconds, I should work on that sometime
19:41 Fixer_ last 10 seconds of boot was ReadyBoot tracer and defender thing
19:42 sofar 130 second boot?
19:42 sofar what?
19:42 sofar even my 12-core boots in like, 7 seconds
19:42 Fixer_ ReadyBoot is interesting, it measures what was loaded at boot and changes cache
19:42 sofar my vm's boot in 0.5 seconds
19:42 Fixer_ sofar: thats windows from bios to full boot when disk i/o stops
19:43 sofar my media pc boots in 8 seconds including bios
19:43 sofar and then it's idle (no io, no cpu)
19:43 Fixer_ sofar: pfff, before that full boot was 300 seconds
19:43 sofar still terrible :)
19:43 thePalindrome Aye
19:43 Lukc 300 s is huge.
19:43 thePalindrome My next motherboard is going to have coreboot, so I can boot faster and more reliably :P
19:43 * sofar is the author of github.com/systemd/systemd-bootchart
19:44 Fixer_ sofar: desktop part starts at 28 sec
19:44 Fixer_ sofar: when explorer.exe is loaded/wallpapers/autoruns/etc
19:45 Calinou thePalindrome: no Haswell-or-later motherboard has Coreboot
19:47 Fixer_ sofar: funny part is winxp in my VM boots like in 20 sec to full usability %)
19:47 * thePalindrome is going amd, because I'd rather my equipment work
19:47 thePalindrome Seriously, why pay an extra $100 just to unlock the clock ratio?
19:47 Calinou >2016 >AMD
19:47 thePalindrome Plus Zen is all the shiny
19:47 Fixer_ i don't overclock, it is already SO HOT
19:47 Krock *because he'd rather
19:48 Calinou thePalindrome: the K-series CPUs don't just offer unlocked ratio, but also a higher base clock
19:48 Fixer_ finally +23*C these days what a relief, thats considered cold
19:48 Krock overclock and reduce the CPU voltage!
19:48 Fixer_ sofar: ssd?
19:48 Krock the risk for a crash is higher but you get a better performance
19:49 Fixer_ sofar: also, new windowses have hybrid boot thing that is like suspend thing
19:49 sofar Fixer_: ssd for OS, hdd for data, but yes, most of my systems nowadays have an ssd
19:49 Fixer_ ssd is much faster
19:49 sofar suspend isn't boot (it's cheating anyway)
19:49 Krock put Minetest on SSD!
19:49 Calinou I'm full SSD on both desktop/laptop here
19:49 Calinou (500 GB on laptop, 1 TB on desktop, both are 850 EVO's)
19:49 Fixer_ sofar: take old notebook with slow disk and it will drive you crazy with that much of slowness and i/o
19:50 Fixer_ Calinou: insanely pricy
19:50 sofar my oldest piece of hardware is a 2012 ivy bridge ultrabook with 256gb ssd
19:50 thePalindrome You mean the fastboot that destroyed partitions?
19:50 Fixer_ thePalindrome: yes
19:50 sofar Fixer_: I work for Intel, so I'm spoiled ;)
19:50 sofar not that I get free hardware, I just can't spend money on junk hardware anymore
19:51 Calinou me neither
19:51 Calinou my current specs: i7-6700K + 32 GB DDR4 + GTX 1080 on desktop
19:51 Calinou :]
19:51 Calinou sofar: hey, I gave your company ‚ā¨350
19:51 Calinou you should be happy
19:51 sofar I'd buy a sandy bridge NUC today if I could, those things are just fantastic
19:51 sofar Calinou: wewt! you increased my bonus!
19:53 Calinou sofar: I looked at laptops, but I guess I'll wait a good year (this would be great pun if talking about tires…) before changing
19:53 Calinou my current one is an Acer Aspire V Nitro (i7-4720HQ, 8 GB DDR3, GTX 960M)
19:54 Calinou it's nice but it's large (17") and battery life is not great (3 hours at most in web browsing)
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19:55 sofar I'm giving it 3 months so the graphics drivers can stabilize
19:55 sofar but in ClearLinux we have skylake working very well
19:56 Calinou yes, I had no issue with Skylake graphuics on Antergos
19:56 Calinou (before the dGPU arrived)
19:57 sofar just yesterday I ran it on skylake-x as well without issues, even ran minetest on it :)
19:57 Calinou wow, you broke the NDA
19:57 sofar nope
19:57 Calinou Skylake-E isn't out yet?
19:58 sofar I can talk about model numbers that are already known to the public
19:58 sofar skylake-x
19:58 sofar it's already being discussed in the open
19:58 Fixer_ hmm, .net clr boots up somewhat slowly
19:58 sofar I can't tell you about performance numbers, or very cool new features :)
19:59 sofar Fixer_: .net what?
19:59 thePalindrome "It's broken" No wait, that's nvidia
19:59 thePalindrome .net is also broken :P
19:59 Fixer_ greenshot is written in .net, and is quite IO intensive at boot, TOO MUCH INTENSIVE
20:00 Fixer i thought it was in cpp, crap
20:00 sofar Fixer: what is ".net clr" ?
20:00 Fixer but it is quite good
20:00 * thePalindrome does other things /)
20:00 Fixer sofar, .net virtual machine iirc
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20:22 Krock thePalindrome, "join a server" has 1st priority
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21:57 Calinou https://lut.im/YF92TrrW4c/w7CYuOG7HHgKH2Du.png
21:57 Calinou https://lut.im/YF92TrrW4c/w7CYuOG7HHgKH2Du.png
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21:57 Calinou running OpenRW successfully
21:57 Calinou this: https://github.com/rwengine/openrw
21:58 sfan5 looks like GTA
21:59 shamoanjac it's been a long time since I last checked OpenRW
21:59 shamoanjac looks fun indeed
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22:02 thePalindrome Interesting
22:02 thePalindrome Didn't think there was a clone of gta yet :P
22:03 shamoanjac at last we will have a real Grand Theft Gentoo
22:03 Calinou sfan5: it's a GTA 3 reimplementation
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22:19 sea` and now to make a farm
22:25 thePalindrome Just out of curiousity, is anybody interested in a magic mod?
22:27 sea` Oh noooooooo!! The server I was playing on just went offline, and /right/ when I finished calculating the most space efficient farm!
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22:33 Fixer "Extremely slow boot caused by DataStore.edb (help)"
22:33 Fixer hmm
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22:41 thePalindrome I can think of a really quick way to boost your boot speed :P
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23:07 Hijiri thePalindrome: OldCoder is
23:07 Hijiri I worked on two magic mods which are now abandoned
23:07 thePalindrome Huh, interesting, might I ask why?
23:08 Hijiri I was busy, also wasn't sure if the gameplay I was making was good
23:08 Hijiri both times I think the magic system was overcomplicated, in different ways, though the second one never got to a useful state
23:08 thePalindrome Ah
23:08 Hijiri the first one, you prepared spells beforehand, and spells all had custom dialogs where you could input parameters
23:09 thePalindrome One of the biggest issues I ran into was the inability to do some simple client scripting
23:09 Hijiri I'm not sure the parameters really added to gameplay, and it was annoying since you had to input each time
23:09 Hijiri the second one I was doing a system similar to spells in MC mod Ars Magica 2, though I never completed it. It might have been a good system
23:09 Hijiri thePalindrome: I don't think client scripting is needed for a good magic mod, though it would help for effects and controls
23:10 Hijiri but I think the core of a good magic mod could be done in minetest today
23:10 OldCoder hi
23:10 thePalindrome I was going for a more eldritch style
23:10 thePalindrome Hey mr. Coder
23:10 Hijiri I think maybe my problem with the second mod is that I couldn't come up with a nice infrastructure system for the magic
23:10 thePalindrome Client side scripting would be handy for entities that only exist for one player
23:10 Hijiri yeah, that would be handy
23:10 Hijiri I don't think it is essential for a magic mod though
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23:11 thePalindrome Agreed
23:11 Hijiri actually I have to go, I'll be connected to irc forever though
23:11 thePalindrome /)
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23:21 Megaf !server Megaf
23:21 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/24, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms
23:21 * Megaf look at Calinou
23:21 * Megaf roars
23:22 Calinou hi
23:23 Megaf folks, what's your opinion about this course? https://www.cct.ie/our-courses/full-time/ba‚Äčchelor-of-science-in-information-technology
23:23 OldCoder Megaf, R
23:25 OldCoder Megaf, I don't see many reviews of the group
23:25 OldCoder Are you able to find any?
23:26 Megaf not much actually
23:26 Megaf OldCoder: I've been there today, they were very kind to me
23:27 Megaf And they have special education for people with ADHD
23:27 Megaf like, exams are given in a room where I will be alone with a teacher
23:27 Megaf so I don't get distracted easily
23:28 Megaf I wish they had Linux on that list
23:29 Megaf OldCoder: they have 4.9 stars on Google
23:29 Megaf I think that's something
23:29 Calinou https://xkcd.com/1098/
23:31 thePalindrome lol
23:32 Megaf Calinou: so exclent it is
23:39 Megaf I like this https://xkcd.com/433/
23:41 Megaf I can see myself doing that https://xkcd.com/165/
23:42 thePalindrome Ah, that ark
23:42 thePalindrome *arc
23:44 * Megaf left ##Linux for ever, the guys there are too strict
23:44 Megaf not a community at all
23:44 Megaf Maybe they thnk they are ##Kernel ...
23:44 Megaf kernel wannabes
23:44 Calinou I never got into ##linux really
23:45 Calinou it's not notorious for being a good channel
23:46 * thePalindrome hangs out in like five or so channels
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23:58 * OldCoder is in about 50 channels but only a few are active

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