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| 00:01 |
Hijiri |
well, I'm still only taking one heart of damage |
| 00:01 |
Hijiri |
oh, that's default also |
| 00:01 |
Nosrick_ |
Yeah, this is the broken code. |
| 00:01 |
Nosrick_ |
The previous code was working in one way, broken in another. |
| 00:02 |
Hijiri |
the "Got Luaentity" message isn't being printed |
| 00:02 |
Nosrick_ |
And I have no idea why. |
| 00:02 |
Hijiri |
so wait, it is, sorry |
| 00:02 |
Nosrick_ |
Ah, okay. |
| 00:02 |
Nosrick_ |
I was gonna say, it was working on mine. |
| 00:04 |
Hijiri |
ah, this is a problem with mobs |
| 00:04 |
Hijiri |
it only copies the fields it needs, no additional ones |
| 00:05 |
Nosrick_ |
Damn it. |
| 00:05 |
Hijiri |
you can complain to tenplus in his thread |
| 00:05 |
Hijiri |
or on github |
| 00:05 |
Nosrick_ |
Is there a way for me to set the definition after it's been initialised? |
| 00:06 |
Hijiri |
yes, use the hack you were using before |
| 00:06 |
Nosrick_ |
Okay, will do! |
| 00:06 |
Hijiri |
manually setting the entry in registered_entities |
| 00:07 |
Nosrick_ |
It makes me feel like a wizard when I figure these things out. |
| 00:08 |
Hijiri |
when it happens to me I feel mad that the hack is necessary in the first place |
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Nosrick_ |
Eh, these things happen when working with other people's code. |
| 00:12 |
Nosrick_ |
I'm off to bed for the night, I think. |
| 00:12 |
Nosrick_ |
Night, night. |
| 00:13 |
Hijiri |
NIGHT |
| 00:13 |
Hijiri |
night* |
| 00:13 |
Hijiri |
sorry |
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Darkside_ |
slither.io that's a fun Snake-like game, check it out if you don't know that game yet! :) i gotta practice :D |
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Hijiri |
I saw it mentioned |
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Hijiri |
not here though |
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Nosrick |
Morning folks |
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sfan5 |
morning |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy World Elephant Day! 😃 😠|
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Passant |
The submitted avatar is 94 pixels wide and 100 pixels high. Avatars must be at least 32 pixels wide and 32 pixels high, but no larger than 64 pixels wide and 64 pixels high. <- this is really misplaced in the year 2016! also this damn bbcode joke. why not markdown? grrrrrrrrr..... |
| 09:55 |
Passant |
what the... The submitted avatar is 30 pixels wide and 32 pixels high. Avatars must be at least 32 pixels wide and 32 pixels high, but no larger than 64 pixels wide and 64 pixels high. |
| 09:55 |
Passant |
ah, i missread something |
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Fixer |
Calinou: want to hear something funny? |
| 10:27 |
Fixer |
will be back |
| 10:30 |
aix |
are there any neater solutions to server auto-restarters than `for i in seq{0 .. 10}; do minetestserver; done ? |
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Calinou |
Passant: we use phpBB, we are not going to switch to Markdown… |
| 10:35 |
Calinou |
also, 64×64 avatars ensure they aren't overly huge, this is perfectly fine IMO |
| 10:35 |
Calinou |
maybe we could have 80×80 or something like that |
| 10:36 |
Fixer |
Calinou: removing avast speed ups full boot time from 300 sec to 150-160 sec |
| 10:37 |
Calinou |
heh |
| 10:37 |
Calinou |
my boot time is like 20 seconds here :p |
| 10:37 |
Fixer |
Calinou: on linux? |
| 10:37 |
Calinou |
both Linux and Windows boot in ~20 seconds |
| 10:38 |
Fixer |
Calinou: my WinXP in vm boots in 30 seconds or so, but this garbage w7 needs 160 :/ |
| 10:38 |
Fixer |
Calinou: linux boot is much faster btw |
| 10:39 |
Calinou |
Windows 8 and later can boot very fast with the Fast Boot feature |
| 10:39 |
Calinou |
which is basically hybrid suspend instead of shutdown |
| 10:39 |
Calinou |
but it messes with dual booting |
| 10:40 |
Fixer |
Calinou: yes |
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| 10:53 |
Passant |
Calinou: a forum would be able to modify the images by it self. I dont know phpBB so i don't know how flexible this kind of forum is. bbcode is not that simple and awkward in my opinion. Why not switch to something well known, good working and simple? |
| 10:53 |
Calinou |
that requires having a dependency on libgd :) |
| 10:53 |
Calinou |
Markdown didn't exist when phpBB was created |
| 10:53 |
Calinou |
you do realize phpBB is pretty much legacy software by now? all the cool guys use Discourse now :) |
| 10:53 |
Calinou |
but we chose not to |
| 10:54 |
aix |
Calinou: 20 damn seconds? |
| 10:54 |
aix |
christ |
| 10:54 |
aix |
and i thought mine was slow |
| 10:54 |
Krock |
good. Again a forum switch would be unneccessary |
| 10:55 |
Passant |
well i decided to use vanilla but flarum was also interesting (there is also nodebb but it is really randim written and caused kernel panics on another community). so does this mean phpbb don't get updates? |
| 10:55 |
Passant |
*random |
| 10:55 |
Calinou |
phpBB doesn't get a lot of updates, but it does |
| 10:55 |
Calinou |
but I'd say it's pretty much in maintenance mode |
| 10:56 |
Calinou |
also, if the non-responsiveness and dated look of phpBB bothers you, there's this: https://comboot.io/ |
| 10:56 |
Calinou |
but I don't think we will switch around forum themes |
| 10:57 |
Passant |
mmh i decided also to use a bootstrap theme, but mainly to fit the mainpage style :P https://forum.illuna-minetest.tk/ |
| 10:59 |
Passant |
my problem is not the theme but the usualibility (i hope i wrote this word right). it would be a bit enhancement to have a markdown feature (just for an example) or auto-scaled images after upload like on 98% of all the other plattforms without forcing the poor users to do it by there own |
| 10:59 |
Passant |
*a big |
| 11:01 |
Fixer |
Calinou: switched back date to 2010 and installed old version of avast without BS just for test, updated definitions, boot time increased +40-50 seconds |
| 11:01 |
Passant |
maybe phpbb is well known and stable, but if it lacks some important modern features, i guess it wasn't the best choice :/ |
| 11:01 |
Calinou |
we switched in 2014 |
| 11:02 |
Calinou |
there's a big problem if you switch to Discourse: does it support BBCode? we need to because lots of posts use BBCode |
| 11:02 |
Calinou |
I presume it does… |
| 11:03 |
Passant |
i don't know, i had the feeling that discourse is too complex for alot of users, so i searched something else |
| 11:04 |
Passant |
and, i am not a big developer, but i think it would be possible to convert the posts :P |
| 11:05 |
Fixer |
whats wrong with phpbb? |
| 11:05 |
Calinou |
Fixer: it's stuck in 2005 mostly |
| 11:05 |
Passant |
http://jondum.github.io/BBCode-To-Markdown-Converter/ |
| 11:05 |
Calinou |
but don't worry, you can do much worse than it |
| 11:06 |
sfan5 |
"Why not switch to something well known, good working and simple?" |
| 11:06 |
Calinou |
even vBulletin can be stuck in 1999 :) |
| 11:06 |
Calinou |
https://www.doomworld.com/vb/ |
| 11:06 |
sfan5 |
you mean like bbcode? |
| 11:06 |
Fixer |
Calinou: but what is the problem? |
| 11:06 |
Fixer |
what features we miss? |
| 11:07 |
Passant |
for example, a simple and popular formatting method of posts i guess. i think it is important to make it simple for all the users and bbcode for example is everything else... |
| 11:08 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 11:08 |
sfan5 |
bbcode is well known (with forum software) |
| 11:08 |
sfan5 |
bbcode works fine too |
| 11:08 |
sfan5 |
it maybe not be as minimalistic as markdown but it's still simple |
| 11:08 |
Passant |
minetest is a game many young people plays. |
| 11:09 |
sfan5 |
those "young people" know neither markdown nor bbcode |
| 11:09 |
Passant |
but as i experience they understand the basic syntax very fast |
| 11:10 |
Passant |
also the editors are much easier then the editors for bbcode |
| 11:10 |
sfan5 |
how is [i]text[/i] harder than *text* ? |
| 11:10 |
Passant |
many more keys to press for example |
| 11:10 |
sfan5 |
also the editor thing is not a problem of the standard, it's a problem of tooling |
| 11:10 |
sfan5 |
but that doesn't make it harder |
| 11:10 |
sfan5 |
you are talking about understanding |
| 11:11 |
Passant |
maybe it is different with an englich layouted keyboard but for me, with a german keyboard, it isnt handy |
| 11:11 |
sfan5 |
it isn't any harder to understand |
| 11:11 |
sfan5 |
and that's a regional problem |
| 11:11 |
Passant |
it was just a thinking |
| 11:11 |
Passant |
we could vote :D |
| 11:11 |
Passant |
(in the forum) |
| 11:12 |
sfan5 |
that would come at a disadvantage to the potential people who will join the forum in the future |
| 11:12 |
Passant |
i tell about what i experienced over the time, you may have a different look about, but i am pretty sure that many users run in trouble with bbcode |
| 11:13 |
sfan5 |
i haven't seen people have trouble with bbcode? |
| 11:13 |
sfan5 |
s/?// |
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Passant |
i am unable to continue fighting for my point since my english reach its borders. so i will do something else now. |
| 11:23 |
sfan5 |
Passant: wir können das auch auf deutsch weiterführen |
| 11:23 |
sfan5 |
just kidding |
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Krock |
try klingon |
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aix |
^ |
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Anony |
hello |
| 11:35 |
Anony |
i just started playing this game |
| 11:35 |
Anony |
is there a full list of controls somewhere |
| 11:35 |
Krock |
Hello and yes |
| 11:36 |
Krock |
Press ESC in-game and you'll see a button to change the keys |
| 11:36 |
Anony |
where can i find it? thanks |
| 11:36 |
Anony |
ah i see |
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Krock |
if there's a key missing, you can look into the minetest.conf.example file and search for "KEY_" |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
| 12:18 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/24, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms |
| 12:18 |
Megaf |
Hi everybody |
| 12:18 |
Megaf |
Anyone reading me? |
| 12:18 |
Megaf |
MinetestBot: you there? |
| 12:18 |
Megaf |
!up mt.megaf.info 30003 |
| 12:18 |
MinetestBot |
mt.megaf.info:30003 is up (7ms) |
| 12:18 |
Megaf |
:S |
| 12:18 |
Megaf |
oh, finally |
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Krock |
Megaf, I'm not reading you |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Update AppData file with more URLs and keywords c4e77b4 https://git.io/v60i8 (2016-08-12T15:04:02+02:00) |
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Megaf |
!server 178.79.130.6 30003 |
| 13:21 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: No results |
| 13:21 |
Megaf |
!up 178.79.130.6 30003 |
| 13:21 |
MinetestBot |
178.79.130.6:30003 is up (7ms) |
| 13:22 |
MinetestBot |
[git] Thomas--S -> minetest/minetest: Add an [opacity:<r> texture modifier. Makes the base image transparent according to the given ratio. r must be between 0 and 255. 0 means totally transparent. 255 means totally opaque. Useful for texture overlaying. f21dae6 https://git.io/v60Ph (2016-08-12T15:20:30+02:00) |
| 13:23 |
Megaf |
--- 178.79.130.6 ping statistics --- |
| 13:23 |
Megaf |
50 packets transmitted, 50 received, 0% packet loss, time 9799ms |
| 13:23 |
Megaf |
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.046/0.050/0.080/0.011 ms |
| 13:23 |
Megaf |
Not bad |
| 13:25 |
Megaf |
--- 178.79.130.6 ping statistics --- |
| 13:25 |
Megaf |
100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 19878ms |
| 13:25 |
Megaf |
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 21.336/25.847/130.331/13.191 ms |
| 13:25 |
Megaf |
but this is the real result |
| 13:25 |
Megaf |
24ms avg, not bad still |
| 13:25 |
Megaf |
!server Calinou |
| 13:25 |
MinetestBot |
Megaf: Calinou [Europe/Paris] (survival - minimal mods) | hugo.pro:30002 | Clients: 1/32, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 10ms |
| 13:26 |
Calinou |
cool, 1 client |
| 13:26 |
Megaf |
--- hugo.pro ping statistics --- |
| 13:26 |
Megaf |
100 packets transmitted, 100 received, 0% packet loss, time 19847ms |
| 13:26 |
Megaf |
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 155.622/158.262/167.858/1.900 ms |
| 13:26 |
Megaf |
Calinou: ^ |
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Calinou |
you're in the US? |
| 13:27 |
Megaf |
Dublin. Ireland |
| 13:27 |
Megaf |
my server is in London |
| 13:27 |
Calinou |
--- hugo.pro ping statistics --- |
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Calinou |
5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4006ms |
| 13:27 |
Calinou |
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 45.307/45.844/47.260/0.744 ms |
| 13:27 |
Calinou |
I get this |
| 13:27 |
Calinou |
(I'm in France, server is in France) |
| 13:27 |
Megaf |
I guess the link Dublin - London is much better than the link Dublin - France |
| 13:28 |
Calinou |
probably |
| 13:28 |
Megaf |
9 steps to my server, 14 to yours |
| 13:28 |
Megaf |
from my home |
| 13:29 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: >rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 30.007/30.241/30.459/0.187 ms |
| 13:29 |
sfan5 |
why is your ping to france so bad |
| 13:30 |
Calinou |
sfan5: my ping is not great, even though I have decent throughput (ADSL) |
| 13:30 |
Calinou |
it used to be better in my old house |
| 13:30 |
sfan5 |
how much? |
| 13:30 |
Calinou |
11/1 |
| 13:30 |
Calinou |
I had 5/0.5 before, and better ping |
| 13:30 |
Calinou |
despite the line being longer (!) |
| 13:30 |
sfan5 |
" decent " |
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sfan5 |
i have 100/40 with vdsl |
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sfan5 |
though you can call 10/1 decent when you look at how good internet is in germany |
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sfan5 |
hint: it's not good |
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Megaf |
I have no idea what kind of broadband we have here |
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Megaf |
I think is some kind of cable |
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Megaf |
the coaxial thingy |
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Megaf |
my IP is 2a02:8084:1080:db00:e57e:53ed:937c:db7f ping me! |
| 13:36 |
Megaf |
or 37.228.240.94 |
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sfan5 |
you're with a cable company owned by liberty global |
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Calinou |
no response on IPv4 |
| 13:38 |
Calinou |
none on IPv6 either |
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Calinou |
(my ISP supports IPv6) |
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Megaf |
I suspected that |
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Megaf |
the modem must be blocking ping |
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sfan5 |
pinging v6 works here |
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sfan5 |
virgin media it is |
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Megaf |
you know your are a nerd when you spend you afternoon IPv6 pining people you know from IRC |
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Megaf |
pinging* |
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Megaf |
!seen soft_libre |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: soft_libre was last seen at 2014-10-31 04:16:48 UTC on #minetest |
| 13:41 |
Megaf |
<ACTION> 2016-08-12 09:58:57: [Server] Server: User soft_libre at xx.xx.xx.xx supplied wrong password (auth mechanism: SRP). |
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Megaf |
=/ |
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Fixer |
sorry for in and outs, sex with windows |
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Megaf |
just stop using that thing |
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Fixer |
one day i will dump this garbage |
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* Megaf |
dumped windows in 2003 |
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* Megaf |
had been using Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition from TechNet by then |
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* Megaf |
was quite happy with Windows Server, until one day it crashed and self destroyed it's file system and Megaf lost all the stuff he had in the hard drives |
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Megaf |
I still think Windows Server 2003 is the best windows ever |
| 13:49 |
Megaf |
lighter and faster than XP, and very robust (for windows that is) |
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sfan5 |
>lost all the stuff he had in the hard drives |
| 14:04 |
sfan5 |
but you had backups, right? |
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APNG |
>backups |
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APNG |
lol |
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aix |
the chess mod is like lichess but better |
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Calinou |
I'd say worse :P |
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Calinou |
it does not feature analysis or AI |
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agrecascino |
shamoanjac, |
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shamoanjac |
agrecascino, |
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shamoanjac |
I wasn't home yesterday |
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shamoanjac |
didn't come home until this morning |
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agrecascino |
shamoanjac, factions is completely broken |
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shamoanjac |
how so? |
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shamoanjac |
please use the github bug tracker |
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shamoanjac |
so that I can check when I have time |
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agrecascino |
shamoanjac, /f never shows you being in a faction |
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shamoanjac |
any major bug? |
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shamoanjac |
I'm aware of this one already |
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agrecascino |
you occasionally get dropped out of your own faction |
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shamoanjac |
well it's not really a bug, it's more a lack of feature |
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shamoanjac |
okay, what happens with the last one? |
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agrecascino |
it seems to be mostly rnadom |
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agrecascino |
random* |
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agrecascino |
but it seems to have something to do restarts |
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agrecascino |
shamoanjac, also can you make it so even without flags, factions can claim a few chunks |
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agrecascino |
and having more members increases that |
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shamoanjac |
no, and it's a terrible idea |
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shamoanjac |
I mean |
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shamoanjac |
yes, but it's a terrible idea |
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agrecascino |
it worked in MC factions? |
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agrecascino |
maybe just a baseline one chunk? |
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shamoanjac |
yes, because Minecraft checks for account validity |
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shamoanjac |
unless you play on an "offline" server, you can only play with a single account |
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agrecascino |
shamoanjac, how about having an exponential decay function to calculate how much you get from new members |
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shamoanjac |
just create several factions and that's it |
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shamoanjac |
we already talked about free claiming |
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agrecascino |
how about 1 free claim? |
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shamoanjac |
it's just not possible in Minetest |
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shamoanjac |
enough to cause havoc and wreckage |
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agrecascino |
fine... |
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agrecascino |
anyway |
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agrecascino |
it seems that you cant craft power banners |
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agrecascino |
or death banners |
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shamoanjac |
I hadn't finished death banners |
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shamoanjac |
power banners had a bug because of the steel base craft recipe |
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shamoanjac |
did you update the mod? |
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agrecascino |
no |
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shamoanjac |
that's it |
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shamoanjac |
there was a typo so the steel base required default:steel_block instead of default:steelblock |
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agrecascino |
alright |
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shamoanjac |
did you also update to the latest of factions? |
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agrecascino |
yes |
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shamoanjac |
ok |
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shamoanjac |
I added a bit of verbosity |
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shamoanjac |
(yesterday) |
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agrecascino |
it didn't seem like you pushed that to your repo |
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shamoanjac |
oops |
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shamoanjac |
yep, it's that |
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shamoanjac |
I'll add the "/f" showing you your faction the |
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shamoanjac |
also faction chat (not tested) which relies on a Faction.broadcast() method (tested and seemingly working well) |
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shamoanjac |
pushed |
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shamoanjac |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7u7pXusBbM |
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shamoanjac |
this mod in Minetest when |
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agrecascino |
shamoanjac, you broke it |
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shamoanjac |
what's the error? |
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agrecascino |
expected to close with } on line 543 |
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shamoanjac |
file? |
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agrecascino |
chatcommands.lua |
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shamoanjac |
shouldn't be there |
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shamoanjac |
ah right |
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shamoanjac |
the comma |
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shamoanjac |
pushed |
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agrecascino |
shamoanjac, have your finished death banners yet? |
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shamoanjac |
no |
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Fixer |
done |
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SusWombat |
Hey |
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SusWombat |
Are there any programming mods for minetest? |
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sofar |
SusWombat: mesecons has microcontroller stuff |
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SusWombat |
sofar, is it good? |
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sofar |
depends on your expectations, I suppose, but yeah, you can build fun things with it |
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SusWombat |
sofar, im bored an wanna do something with programming or logic gates |
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SusWombat |
second problem i dont have a cool idea yet ^^ |
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sofar |
SusWombat: then it sounds like mesecons will be what you want :) |
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Fixer |
why the hell explorer reads uninstall.exes of various kinds at boot taking up valuable seconds? |
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Fixer |
wth |
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Fixer |
i need to go deeper |
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Fixer |
27 reboots :S |
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Fixer |
"Fix broken icons and reset icon cache in Windows 10 - Winaero" |
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Fixer |
jeez, still not fixed |
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Fixer |
how many decades? |
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Calinou |
rofl, people are trying to build a Nether portal on my server |
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Calinou |
https://lut.im/Bi2obEgvpM/mdKCo8NoYCgZe5sO.png |
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thePalindrome |
Wonder what they'll say when it doesn't "work" |
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Fixer_ |
boot speed improved even further |
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Fixer_ |
Calinou: went from 300 sec to 130-135 sec of full boot |
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thePalindrome |
iirc my boot is about 90 seconds, I should work on that sometime |
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Fixer_ |
last 10 seconds of boot was ReadyBoot tracer and defender thing |
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sofar |
130 second boot? |
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sofar |
what? |
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sofar |
even my 12-core boots in like, 7 seconds |
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Fixer_ |
ReadyBoot is interesting, it measures what was loaded at boot and changes cache |
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sofar |
my vm's boot in 0.5 seconds |
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Fixer_ |
sofar: thats windows from bios to full boot when disk i/o stops |
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sofar |
my media pc boots in 8 seconds including bios |
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sofar |
and then it's idle (no io, no cpu) |
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Fixer_ |
sofar: pfff, before that full boot was 300 seconds |
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sofar |
still terrible :) |
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thePalindrome |
Aye |
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Lukc |
300Â s is huge. |
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thePalindrome |
My next motherboard is going to have coreboot, so I can boot faster and more reliably :P |
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* sofar |
is the author of github.com/systemd/systemd-bootchart |
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Fixer_ |
sofar: desktop part starts at 28 sec |
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Fixer_ |
sofar: when explorer.exe is loaded/wallpapers/autoruns/etc |
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Calinou |
thePalindrome: no Haswell-or-later motherboard has Coreboot |
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Fixer_ |
sofar: funny part is winxp in my VM boots like in 20 sec to full usability %) |
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* thePalindrome |
is going amd, because I'd rather my equipment work |
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thePalindrome |
Seriously, why pay an extra $100 just to unlock the clock ratio? |
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Calinou |
>2016 >AMD |
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thePalindrome |
Plus Zen is all the shiny |
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Fixer_ |
i don't overclock, it is already SO HOT |
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Krock |
*because he'd rather |
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Calinou |
thePalindrome: the K-series CPUs don't just offer unlocked ratio, but also a higher base clock |
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Fixer_ |
finally +23*C these days what a relief, thats considered cold |
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Krock |
overclock and reduce the CPU voltage! |
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Fixer_ |
sofar: ssd? |
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Krock |
the risk for a crash is higher but you get a better performance |
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Fixer_ |
sofar: also, new windowses have hybrid boot thing that is like suspend thing |
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sofar |
Fixer_: ssd for OS, hdd for data, but yes, most of my systems nowadays have an ssd |
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Fixer_ |
ssd is much faster |
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sofar |
suspend isn't boot (it's cheating anyway) |
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Krock |
put Minetest on SSD! |
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Calinou |
I'm full SSD on both desktop/laptop here |
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Calinou |
(500 GB on laptop, 1 TB on desktop, both are 850 EVO's) |
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Fixer_ |
sofar: take old notebook with slow disk and it will drive you crazy with that much of slowness and i/o |
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Fixer_ |
Calinou: insanely pricy |
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sofar |
my oldest piece of hardware is a 2012 ivy bridge ultrabook with 256gb ssd |
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thePalindrome |
You mean the fastboot that destroyed partitions? |
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Fixer_ |
thePalindrome: yes |
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sofar |
Fixer_: I work for Intel, so I'm spoiled ;) |
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sofar |
not that I get free hardware, I just can't spend money on junk hardware anymore |
| 19:51 |
Calinou |
me neither |
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Calinou |
my current specs: i7-6700K + 32 GB DDR4 + GTX 1080 on desktop |
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Calinou |
:] |
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Calinou |
sofar: hey, I gave your company €350 |
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Calinou |
you should be happy |
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sofar |
I'd buy a sandy bridge NUC today if I could, those things are just fantastic |
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sofar |
Calinou: wewt! you increased my bonus! |
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Calinou |
sofar: I looked at laptops, but I guess I'll wait a good year (this would be great pun if talking about tires…) before changing |
| 19:53 |
Calinou |
my current one is an Acer Aspire V Nitro (i7-4720HQ, 8 GB DDR3, GTX 960M) |
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Calinou |
it's nice but it's large (17") and battery life is not great (3 hours at most in web browsing) |
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sofar |
I'm giving it 3 months so the graphics drivers can stabilize |
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sofar |
but in ClearLinux we have skylake working very well |
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Calinou |
yes, I had no issue with Skylake graphuics on Antergos |
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Calinou |
(before the dGPU arrived) |
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sofar |
just yesterday I ran it on skylake-x as well without issues, even ran minetest on it :) |
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Calinou |
wow, you broke the NDA |
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sofar |
nope |
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Calinou |
Skylake-E isn't out yet? |
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sofar |
I can talk about model numbers that are already known to the public |
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sofar |
skylake-x |
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sofar |
it's already being discussed in the open |
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Fixer_ |
hmm, .net clr boots up somewhat slowly |
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sofar |
I can't tell you about performance numbers, or very cool new features :) |
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sofar |
Fixer_: .net what? |
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thePalindrome |
"It's broken" No wait, that's nvidia |
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thePalindrome |
.net is also broken :P |
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Fixer_ |
greenshot is written in .net, and is quite IO intensive at boot, TOO MUCH INTENSIVE |
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Fixer |
i thought it was in cpp, crap |
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sofar |
Fixer: what is ".net clr" ? |
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Fixer |
but it is quite good |
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* thePalindrome |
does other things /) |
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Fixer |
sofar, .net virtual machine iirc |
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Krock |
thePalindrome, "join a server" has 1st priority |
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Calinou |
https://lut.im/YF92TrrW4c/w7CYuOG7HHgKH2Du.png |
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Calinou |
https://lut.im/YF92TrrW4c/w7CYuOG7HHgKH2Du.png |
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Calinou |
running OpenRW successfully |
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Calinou |
this: https://github.com/rwengine/openrw |
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sfan5 |
looks like GTA |
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shamoanjac |
it's been a long time since I last checked OpenRW |
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shamoanjac |
looks fun indeed |
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thePalindrome |
Interesting |
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thePalindrome |
Didn't think there was a clone of gta yet :P |
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shamoanjac |
at last we will have a real Grand Theft Gentoo |
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Calinou |
sfan5: it's a GTA 3 reimplementation |
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sea` |
and now to make a farm |
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thePalindrome |
Just out of curiousity, is anybody interested in a magic mod? |
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sea` |
Oh noooooooo!! The server I was playing on just went offline, and /right/ when I finished calculating the most space efficient farm! |
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Fixer |
"Extremely slow boot caused by DataStore.edb (help)" |
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Fixer |
hmm |
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thePalindrome |
I can think of a really quick way to boost your boot speed :P |
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Hijiri |
thePalindrome: OldCoder is |
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Hijiri |
I worked on two magic mods which are now abandoned |
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thePalindrome |
Huh, interesting, might I ask why? |
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Hijiri |
I was busy, also wasn't sure if the gameplay I was making was good |
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Hijiri |
both times I think the magic system was overcomplicated, in different ways, though the second one never got to a useful state |
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thePalindrome |
Ah |
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Hijiri |
the first one, you prepared spells beforehand, and spells all had custom dialogs where you could input parameters |
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thePalindrome |
One of the biggest issues I ran into was the inability to do some simple client scripting |
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Hijiri |
I'm not sure the parameters really added to gameplay, and it was annoying since you had to input each time |
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Hijiri |
the second one I was doing a system similar to spells in MC mod Ars Magica 2, though I never completed it. It might have been a good system |
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Hijiri |
thePalindrome: I don't think client scripting is needed for a good magic mod, though it would help for effects and controls |
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Hijiri |
but I think the core of a good magic mod could be done in minetest today |
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OldCoder |
hi |
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thePalindrome |
I was going for a more eldritch style |
| 23:10 |
thePalindrome |
Hey mr. Coder |
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Hijiri |
I think maybe my problem with the second mod is that I couldn't come up with a nice infrastructure system for the magic |
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thePalindrome |
Client side scripting would be handy for entities that only exist for one player |
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Hijiri |
yeah, that would be handy |
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Hijiri |
I don't think it is essential for a magic mod though |
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thePalindrome |
Agreed |
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Hijiri |
actually I have to go, I'll be connected to irc forever though |
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thePalindrome |
/) |
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Megaf |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/24, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms |
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* Megaf |
look at Calinou |
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* Megaf |
roars |
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Calinou |
hi |
| 23:23 |
Megaf |
folks, what's your opinion about this course? https://www.cct.ie/our-courses/full-time/bachelor-of-science-in-information-technology |
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OldCoder |
Megaf, R |
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OldCoder |
Megaf, I don't see many reviews of the group |
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OldCoder |
Are you able to find any? |
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Megaf |
not much actually |
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Megaf |
OldCoder: I've been there today, they were very kind to me |
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Megaf |
And they have special education for people with ADHD |
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Megaf |
like, exams are given in a room where I will be alone with a teacher |
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Megaf |
so I don't get distracted easily |
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Megaf |
I wish they had Linux on that list |
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Megaf |
OldCoder: they have 4.9 stars on Google |
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Megaf |
I think that's something |
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Calinou |
https://xkcd.com/1098/ |
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thePalindrome |
lol |
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Megaf |
Calinou: so exclent it is |
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Megaf |
I like this https://xkcd.com/433/ |
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Megaf |
I can see myself doing that https://xkcd.com/165/ |
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thePalindrome |
Ah, that ark |
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thePalindrome |
*arc |
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* Megaf |
left ##Linux for ever, the guys there are too strict |
| 23:44 |
Megaf |
not a community at all |
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Megaf |
Maybe they thnk they are ##Kernel ... |
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Megaf |
kernel wannabes |
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Calinou |
I never got into ##linux really |
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Calinou |
it's not notorious for being a good channel |
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* thePalindrome |
hangs out in like five or so channels |
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* OldCoder |
is in about 50 channels but only a few are active |
