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IRC log for #minetest, 2016-07-24

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00:22 hisforever Hi everybody I'd like to know if anybody knows od a mod that has a porch light?
00:23 hisforever od=of
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01:07 Hijiri does dev wiki membership come with normal wiki membership? Or is there a separate place to apply?
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02:30 everamzah agaran: Can you get it with this?  https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2145
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04:10 nm0i Is there anywhere rss feed to mod releases?
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05:14 * DI3HARD139 doesnt know if this question has been asked a billion times but..
05:15 DI3HARD139 Is it possible to push a live update of the output in the terminal to an external website?
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06:49 agaran everamzah: Well, my goal was not to cause map loadin/generation but to eventually find way to just fetch data for it from disk without loading all nodes, but I can workaround it other way I guess
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07:25 Hijiri does using luacontrollers require special permissions in mesecons?
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07:35 Miner_48er Hijiri no
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08:53 aix hi
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09:00 Krock hi
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09:05 aix anyone fancy helping me build a spawn area?
09:05 aix or give advice on making it
09:05 Krock make a train station
09:06 Krock a big house with officer rooms and a nice lobby
09:07 Krock and rail connections nearby
09:07 * Krock hides
09:08 aix materials-wise
09:09 Krock stone and wood?
09:10 aix no -.-
09:11 aix i'll probably use some moreblocks nodes
09:12 aix uh this molotov cocktail eats through unbreakable nodes lol
09:14 Krock dig bedrock with it :)
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09:15 aix you sure you don't want to help on-site?
09:15 aix like even some guidance
09:15 aix hell even just stand there, i'm lonely on the server
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10:23 aix https://sr.ht/KDFt.png thoughts?
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10:27 Krock nice. I'd add mese light blocks under the top roof
10:28 Krock to it looks like a so it looks like a lighthouse :)
10:28 Krock *so it
10:28 Krock *to make it look like
10:30 Krock aix, what's the server addess?
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10:41 agaran silly question, how to dig elevator?
10:41 agaran I mean I placed it but now I want to remove it..
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11:26 Krock agaran, dig it or use worldedit
11:26 agaran no worldedit available on server, nor I can't dig it.. or don't know how, it only updates target list
11:26 agaran normally I dig it with technic minning drill
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14:01 juhdanad Is it possible to send a chat message to only one player in multiplayer?
14:01 everamzah /msg <name> message
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14:10 everamzah yea!! https://www.twitch.tv/hal_9
14:15 sfan5 !title
14:15 MinetestBot sfan5: Twitch
14:16 juhdanad Thanks, everamzah.
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14:20 Krock aix, http://list.wikia.com/wiki/Fictional_cities
14:21 Krock wrong channel but here's ok too xD
14:21 aix omigod
14:21 aix City 17
14:21 aix that's gonna be the name
14:21 aix Or something like Nova Prospekt
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15:27 nm0i Tel fir
15:27 nm0i *fyr
15:28 Krock Let ryf
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15:51 agaran nm0i, well, thats place of living of some ancient wizard in Morrowind..
15:52 nm0i I prefer tel uvrit in that case.
15:52 agaran well, fungal buildings there are nice
15:55 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Update minetest.conf.example and the settings translation file f833159 https://git.io/vKSRd (2016-07-24T17:41:36+02:00)
16:17 everamzah high level quake live duels, anyone?  https://www.twitch.tv/deliberatemurder
16:25 Calinou >2016 >Quake Live
16:26 everamzah i noticed you do that a lot
16:26 everamzah here, let me try
16:26 everamzah >2016 >minetest
16:26 * everamzah likes old stuff
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16:26 everamzah i have to mention: intel sponsoring 20th quakecon, qw 2v2 and qlive tournies.
16:26 sfan5 everamzah: are you using windows 10
16:27 everamzah $20,000
16:27 everamzah no
16:27 everamzah i don't have a copy of windows, unfortunately.  i'm using debian.
16:28 Calinou Quake Live is Windows-only now :P
16:28 Calinou and is no longer free to play
16:28 everamzah unless you play it wine
16:28 everamzah but i don't think anyone would do that
16:28 everamzah i still watch the games, and just got done compiling new ezquake
16:29 everamzah looks great, nice models/animations
16:29 everamzah https://github.com/ezquake
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16:31 everamzah i do own quakelive on steam, tho.  i was in focus beta testing group, and signed on early.
16:31 Calinou I wish Quake had its assets redistributable, so that we don't have to rely on downloaders :|
16:32 everamzah yep, or a worthy open source equivilent, that's not openarea/aftershock
16:32 everamzah reflex looks good, i was watching hal 9000 play (cpma god), but that costs money, and probably requires windows, too.
16:32 Calinou problem is, nobody seems to want to play arena FPSes today
16:32 Calinou your dad doesn't
16:32 Calinou your sister doesn't
16:32 Calinou your dog doesn't :)
16:33 everamzah not everybody wants to play chess, but that doesn't stop you does it?
16:33 Calinou that kind of refrains me from wanting to develop an arena FPS myself
16:34 everamzah quake physics or bust
16:34 Calinou that's the problem
16:34 KaadmY Calinou: SSG sprites i'm working on: https://usercontent.irccloud-c​dn.com/file/9KB3otSL/ssg_1.gif
16:34 everamzah challenge*
16:34 Calinou people request silly glitches like strafe jumping (which makes no sense) :/
16:34 everamzah it's no problem for me
16:34 everamzah i can do bridge to rail
16:34 everamzah that was a bug, it was removed, the community revolted, john put it back
16:35 everamzah refined it for quake 3.  syncerror (quake4 dev) refined it further for quakelive
16:35 Calinou Xonotic's method (provide a simple way to gain speed) is ok, but needs to be clearly hinted
16:35 everamzah i wouldn't play an FPS if it didn't feature accelerated movement based, loosely, on mouse gesturing
16:36 everamzah ...show me another game from 1995 that is featuring a $20,000 tournie in 2016.  it's a good thing, i think
16:36 Calinou nobody seems to want to play the open source AFPSes out there :/
16:36 everamzah with money comes support
16:36 Calinou future doesn't seem too bright for them (some are still developed but don't really grow)
16:36 Calinou Warsow died recently, OpenArena is already dead despite claims of the contrary
16:37 everamzah there is no quake but quake, currently
16:37 everamzah i feel that could change in the future.
16:37 Calinou OpenArena is exact same balane as Q3A, you know
16:37 everamzah is it?  are you certain?
16:37 Calinou + kill assists, unlagging in 0.8.8, but can be disabled
16:37 Calinou yes
16:37 everamzah and what lengths does one go to to get aftershock
16:37 everamzah and can you relate it to quakelive?  is it in sync with ioquake3?  i don't know much about the other quake games
16:37 everamzah i've tried them all, but nothing compares
16:37 everamzah nothing compares
16:37 Calinou nope, it's not in sync with ioquake3 :(
16:37 everamzah to you
16:37 everamzah so there u go
16:37 Calinou it runs on a very old version of ioquake3
16:38 Calinou problem is, I don't feel like forking ioquake3 to make my own game
16:38 everamzah Timo, who did linux support for quake live, left.  he did ioquake3, or is part of it, i believe.
16:38 Calinou the tooling is quite bad for today
16:38 everamzah was* a part  of it
16:38 Calinou yes, TTimo still is in #radiant @ quakenet, I see him talking sometimes
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16:39 everamzah if it weren't for qlive on linux, i never would have gotten back into it.  i forsake all video games when i was 16, quitting quake right when Quake II came out
16:39 everamzah to focus on music.  qlive came out, i signed up to get a notice when it was available for linux, and it when it was i tried it out, having missed q3a entirely.  i played qlive a lot after that, like 12-16 hours a day
16:39 everamzah duel, duel, duel, duel, duel, duel, duel
16:39 everamzah that was in 07, or 09, i forget
16:39 everamzah it's still up, not bad
16:40 Calinou it's not a big commercial success though :P
16:40 everamzah i don't believe it needs to be, nor ever could be.
16:40 everamzah i had a lot of fun.  urban terror was nice, that was my second favorite
16:40 everamzah i stopped when my 2yr old kept asking to play.  i looked in debian repo for kid-safe game and found minetest
16:41 everamzah and here i am :D
16:41 Calinou also the lack of realistic (even semi-realistic) open source FPS kind of pisses me off
16:41 everamzah quake being a _fantasy_ shooter is one main draw, for me
16:41 Calinou so many games need to be developed...
16:41 everamzah realistic FPS is, questionable, imho
16:42 Calinou it's the standard today, like it or not
16:42 Calinou all other kinds of FPSes seem to have trouble attracting players
16:42 Calinou I don't want to develop a game that nobody plays
16:43 everamzah defrag is nice.
16:43 everamzah or 'race' as it's called in qlive/warsow
16:43 Calinou having a defrag mode would be really nice, and you can't have that in a realistic FPS
16:43 everamzah i don
16:43 everamzah i don't know about realistic fps
16:43 everamzah i never played anything but doom/quake/minetest
16:43 Calinou well someone did make a CS:GO mod with rocket jumping and all :P
16:43 everamzah well, super mario bros. for nes
16:44 Calinou but it feels out of place obviously
16:44 everamzah it's CS:GO that is out of place, to me, i am a quaker
16:44 everamzah 'once a quaker, always a quaker, it's in your blood' -BuLaT
16:45 KaadmY yow
16:45 KaadmY i get pinged on mentions of "quake"
16:45 KaadmY '
16:46 KaadmY must have gotten 15 pings over the last half hour
16:46 agaran I remember overclocking my 486 to run quake 1..
16:46 everamzah "I ain't afraid of no Quake'
16:46 everamzah when i heard that, i laughed, and thought "you should be"
16:46 everamzah i remember quake when it was called qtest
16:46 KaadmY 3 pings just now    :P
16:49 * Calinou installs nQuake
16:49 KaadmY i already have nquake :P
16:49 everamzah ezquake 3 isn't in nquake yet, afaik
16:49 everamzah but it will be by qcon, as that's what they're using on those pcs
16:50 Calinou I think it is now
16:50 Calinou also you can get a test build
16:50 everamzah ezquake is the source port, nquake is the distribution (bots, skins, maps, etc)
16:51 Calinou QuakeCon must be fun
16:51 Calinou at the entrance, there is John Romero saying "Have you bought the game?"
16:51 Calinou if you say no, he kicks your ass
16:51 everamzah i've always wanted to go.  you can pick me up on your way?
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16:55 Calinou "Level yourself, not some stupid MMORPG character!"
16:55 Calinou that nQuake quote is so true
16:55 aix Hello
16:56 agaran Calinou: I prefer levels in programing then ;)
16:57 everamzah i love chess, and poker, but quake is best
16:57 everamzah i think it's the hardest :D
16:57 Calinou who needs DOTA 2 when you have 1+0 chess
16:58 everamzah there's a local cafe that allows chess players to come in each week and take it over.  i played there for a decade or so, but gave up on chess
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17:04 Calinou everamzah: what do you think about Quake 2?
17:05 Calinou it feels more casual than QuakeWorld for me
17:05 everamzah no, i never got into it
17:05 everamzah i liked warsow a lot, tho
17:05 everamzah and tried q2 often, some players swore by it
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17:05 everamzah but i just couldn't get into it.  especially since you can find a duel on quakelive, but not really any other quake
17:06 Calinou it's rather easy to find QuakeWorld duels if you wait a bit
17:06 Calinou it's also rather easy to lose 30-0
17:06 everamzah that's quake!
17:06 everamzah :D
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17:09 babylon This might seem like a silly question, but how do I create steel ingots? I have technic and its 4 dependencies, and every time I smelt iron lumps in a furnace I get wrought iron ingots, whereas the wiki says the result should be a steel ingot instead of a wrought iron ingot
17:09 agaran babylon: you need grnder, make coal dust, then alloying furnace to make carbon steel ingots
17:09 Void7 steel ingot is renamed wrought iron ingot in technic
17:09 agaran then chromium dust and again alloying furnace to make stainless steel ingots
17:10 agaran yup that too
17:10 babylon oh so i can make anything with wrought iron that the wiki says i can make with steel?
17:11 Calinou everamzah: you are right, nQuake has ezQuake 2.2, not 3.0
17:11 agaran babylon: mostly yes
17:12 babylon thanks
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17:14 agaran yw
17:14 agaran babylon: but I recommend to get grinder, you will get more iron out of lump this way
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17:22 Hijiri agaran: if you didn't already figure it out you need a strong enough pick to break an elevator
17:23 agaran Hijiri: I did not figure, steel wasn't good enough it seems
17:23 aix Anyone fancy going mining?
17:24 agaran went to work on my code instead
17:24 aix There's an abandoned salt mine not far from here
17:27 agaran aix, on your server?
17:28 aix no in real life
17:28 aix i wonder what the idea behind mese was
17:29 aix i don't think minetest has salt mines
17:30 aix but yes
17:30 aix on a server
17:31 Krock there would be salt mines.. if there was a salty biome
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17:45 aix you're a salty biome
17:47 Krock yep.. going to get some water brb
18:26 nm0i Don't forget your bucket!
18:28 agaran bucket is crucial..
18:30 agaran anyone can tell me if I need legacy_wallmounted on new node types?
18:30 Krock no you don't need it
18:30 Krock legacy stuff is only for old nodes
18:31 agaran super, so like 30 lines less :)
18:31 Krock \o/
18:31 Krock empty file!
18:31 Krock just kidding. I hope there's more code around :P
18:32 agaran well I had bunch of cable node defs, like minetest.register_node(....), so I made wrapper that sets missing fields (groups etc) so I don't have to specify common values.. and at that I started to clean up fields as well
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19:35 hisforever need help with a roof I have the screenshot http://imgur.com/a/ZPrtW. How do I connect?
19:38 Krock hisforever, use the nodes with 1/8 cut out from the circular saw
19:39 Krock the stair that goes into the two directions
19:39 Krock btw, there's a time speed setting in the minetest.conf file
19:45 hisforever Krock is there a tutoral on the circular saw?
19:45 Krock a tutorial?
19:46 Krock Moreblock's circular saw doesn't have a tutorial
19:46 hisforever ok ty
19:46 Krock np
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20:27 engineer-pearl Is there a way to make PMs visable to mods?
20:30 engineer-pearl I'm just getting my own server up and I would like not to have trouble going on that I can't see except on the server itself, where I can't scroll through the logs.
20:36 nm0i engineer-pearl: they are visible in logs
20:37 nm0i Ah, wait, your wording took seconds to comprehend.
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20:52 hisforever How do I stop time?
20:54 engineer-pearl Put time_speed = 0 in your minetest.conf
20:54 engineer-pearl "time_speed = 0"
20:54 engineer-pearl that will prevent the time from changing
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21:23 rubenwardy time of day, not ingame time
21:23 rubenwardy I guess that's what you meant though :P
21:27 engineer-pearl yes. The ingame time is the time of day.
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21:56 nolsen For some reason, Minetest won't let me fullscreen.
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22:48 nolsen er nevermind.
22:48 nolsen Also, 2016-07-24 18:47:09: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500)
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23:10 nolsen Hm, channel is dead.
23:10 Void7 not yet
23:11 nolsen Void7: Nobody has answered my question yet.
23:12 Void7 er. what question?
23:12 nolsen Also, 2016-07-24 18:47:09: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500)
23:12 nolsen That question ^
23:13 Void7 i'm not really an expert on it
23:13 hisforever Vold7, look at this screenshot http://imgur.com/a/HxF03   What am I doing wrong?
23:14 Void7 you should use "/time 12000"
23:14 hisforever I'm about ready to remove minetest over time issues lil
23:15 Void7 AFAIK time isn't a variable
23:15 Void7 wait nvm
23:15 Void7 there's an underscore in the middle
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23:16 hisforever let me try this again brb
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23:23 hisforever ok here is what I'm getting wnen I type /set time speed 0    then this comes up Failed use '/set -n <name><value>to creat new setting
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23:25 nolsen !server such server
23:25 MinetestBot nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 1ms
23:25 nolsen 1ms lol
23:26 nolsen !mod disable guest
23:26 MinetestBot nolsen: Could not find anything.
23:26 nolsen !mod guest
23:26 MinetestBot nolsen: No More Guests! [no_guests] by kaeza - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=8004
23:29 nolsen !mod password
23:29 MinetestBot nolsen: Password Chest [password_chest] by ynong123 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14818
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23:52 nolsen What is the best way to optimize minetest server on a single-core?
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