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IRC log for #minetest, 2016-07-10

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02:21 aidalgol I'm trying to understand the innards of the minimap.  Why does the MinimapData struct contain images (video::IImage) *and* textures (video::ITexture)?
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08:29 Out`Of`Control Anyone notice bug in moreblocks?
08:29 Out`Of`Control diging desertstone or stone slopes gives desert_stone or cobble
08:30 Out`Of`Control i run recent moreblocks
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12:47 testman Yo
12:47 AnotherBrick oi
12:47 testman Microsoft released this open-source minecraft AI thing: https://github.com/Microsoft/malmo
12:47 swift110-phone lol
12:47 testman could it be adopted to work with minetest?
12:49 swift110-phone maybe that would be cool
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14:20 Calinou it's written in Java...
14:21 Calinou and, overly smart AIs are too CPU-intensive to be used in games
14:21 Calinou (and are questionable from a game design point of view)
14:22 AnotherBrick if it's smart smart it can compensate lack of smart humans
14:25 AnotherBrick at least it won't make lame jokes like i just did -_-
14:27 agaran if AI will be able to compensate for lack of smart humans then humans will become obsolete..
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14:33 shangul ah too much playing!
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14:34 Snark hi
14:35 Snark do you know if sapier is active?
14:35 agaran Is there something at module scope that can work as periodic run for some code, to avoid use abm of dummy block just to get periodic call to some stuff?
14:35 rubenwardy Snark: not seem him for age
14:35 rubenwardy +s
14:36 rubenwardy agaran: minetest.after
14:36 rubenwardy or minetest.register_globaltick
14:36 rubenwardy minetest.after is better if you don't need to run something every server tick
14:36 agaran awesome, I am fine with run every 1-2 seconds
14:37 agaran I wanted at sometime (when I develop it enough) to make it dynamic, ie, when nothing changes in results slow down calls to conserve cpu cycles..
14:37 agaran but thats far horizon
14:37 rubenwardy agaran: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy​/468f1578d94d839693cf0c18017449a1
14:38 rubenwardy minetest.after(time_in_seconds, function_to_run)
14:38 rubenwardy time can be decimal
14:40 agaran yup, I get idea, several environments/languages provide ability to call code after certain delay :) thanks very much
14:40 agaran and this even makes scaling easy as taking candy from kid.. :)
14:43 Snark rubenwardy: bad... I need answers on licenses of different of his repositories
14:44 Snark without them I can't make debian packages :-/
14:44 rubenwardy Snark, which ones?
14:44 Snark adv_spawning
14:44 Snark and
14:44 Snark uh...
14:44 Snark animalmaterials
14:45 Snark I opened issues on github, but if he never looks
14:45 rubenwardy adv_spawning is WTFPL https://github.com/sapier/adv_s​pawning/blob/master/init.lua#L4
14:45 rubenwardy https://github.com/sapier/animalmaterials​/blob/master/animalmaterials/License.txt
14:45 Snark oh, good!
14:46 rubenwardy each folder in https://github.com/sapier/animalmaterials has a Licence.txt
14:47 Snark rubenwardy: for animal_resources, the license is CC0 but there is no author
14:47 Snark and in mob_environments, the author is sapier, but I have no license
14:48 rubenwardy ah, yeah
14:49 rubenwardy One of the files says to contact him   sapier a t gmx net
14:49 rubenwardy I'm guessing that's an email addre
14:49 rubenwardy +ss
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14:49 rubenwardy my s key is sticky
14:50 Snark yes, I'll send an email if I can't reach him otherwise
14:50 Krock my  key i ticky
14:50 Krock ^ rubenwardy
14:51 rubenwardy lol
14:51 rubenwardy I have to hit it quite hard
14:51 Krock Maybe it wouldn't be bad to clean it
14:51 rubenwardy I've had this laptop since the 20th of December
14:51 rubenwardy I'm afraid of breaking the keys
14:52 rubenwardy I'll try though, as this is just painful
14:52 rubenwardy =/+ and del does it too
14:52 Krock there are laptops where you can take out the keyboard easily to clean it
14:53 Krock or even take out the keys
14:53 rubenwardy ok, the key came off cleanly
14:53 rubenwardy can't see anything wrong
14:54 Krock :D
14:54 Krock looks like you need a new keyboard then
14:54 Krock or a bottle of WD40 :P
14:54 rubenwardy I blame obsessive ctrl+s-inf
14:54 rubenwardy *ing
14:55 Krock A windows laptop would have Ctrl + Alt + Del as sticky keys :3
14:56 rubenwardy or ctrl+shift+esc
14:56 rubenwardy always stresses me when people use ctrl+alt+del to open task man
14:57 rubenwardy or when they use ctrl+alt+del to lock instead of flag+l
14:57 Krock yep but it's easier to press Ctrl + Alt + Del, even when you need two hands
14:57 * XeonSquared refers to mod4 as super
14:57 XeonSquared people get really confused when I tell them it isn't really called the Windows key
14:57 rubenwardy Same, XeonSquared
14:57 rubenwardy Super!
14:58 Krock XeonSquared, how's its name instead?
14:58 Calinou hi rubenwardy
14:58 Krock everybody calls it windows key cuz it as a windows on it
14:58 XeonSquared Krock: historically it is either super or meta
14:58 XeonSquared My laptop has a Home key instead of a Windows key \o/
14:58 XeonSquared (It may or may not have had a model that shipped with SUSE 10)
14:58 Calinou my laptop has only 1 Windows key, even if it's 17.3"
14:58 Calinou my desktop has two
14:58 Krock I have Insert Del Home End etc too :P
14:59 Calinou but it has a Menu key, lol
14:59 Calinou I use it for WinCompose
14:59 rubenwardy A slithery snake sings songs so distressful it's sad
14:59 rubenwardy Hopefully that's fixed the s key :P
14:59 Krock I had to work with a masterpiece of laptop keyboard. Whenever I wanted to press Ctrl I got the special-useless Print-Key instead
15:00 rubenwardy Laptops which don't default to F1-F12 and instead default to special function keys annoy me
15:01 rubenwardy To make things worse, some laptops have "screen off" where F5 should be
15:01 rubenwardy so in reloading a page I turn the screen off
15:01 rubenwardy This is mega offtopic
15:04 Krock no, it's not. We need keys to play Minetest!
15:06 Calinou I have a Scroll Lock key on Fn+F12
15:06 Calinou here, Fn+F6 turns the screen off
15:07 XeonSquared I have F1-11
15:07 rubenwardy On mac book pros, the power key is right next to the delete key
15:07 XeonSquared I have to press Fn+F11 to get F12
15:07 rubenwardy and so I always press it, as the delete key is also more left than on my laptop
15:14 Krock XeonSquared, so how many F keys do you have?!
15:14 XeonSquared 24
15:14 Krock oh?
15:14 XeonSquared plus XF86Launch1-5
15:16 everamzah !server joeychloe
15:16 MinetestBot everamzah: joeychloe's server | 172.101.13.131:30001 | Clients: 7/15, 7/7 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 124ms
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15:57 paxcoder Where is Maikerumine?
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16:07 Krock not here, it seems
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16:51 paxcoder Krock: for how long, month and a half?
16:52 paxcoder Because that's how long his server's down.
16:52 Krock well.. I didn't look for thaT
16:52 paxcoder He's either got something very important to do, or he's dead.
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17:55 Out`Of`Control anyone run recent moreblocks mod?
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18:59 Krock eww. The 5V USB output isn't enough to make enough cool air with this CPU cooler :<
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19:13 Out`Of`Control Krock:  use hdd power 12v
19:13 Krock Out`Of`Control, err.. then I'd have to pull a cable through the computer and out of the case
19:14 Krock and a short circuit there by addicent isn't fun
19:14 Out`Of`Control you can use hdd socket even if its on just connect
19:14 Out`Of`Control from an old hdd
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19:55 MinetestBot [git] tenplus1 -> minetest/minetest_game: Default/trees: Faster way to detect snow around pine saplings f1f96db https://git.io/vKGQu (2016-07-10T20:50:40+01:00)
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20:14 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Bones: New textures 07141b4 https://git.io/vKG70 (2016-07-10T21:08:01+01:00)
20:14 MinetestBot [git] t4im -> minetest/minetest_game: Doors: Fix trapdoor crash on can_dig with nil-player (e.g. minetest.dig_node) fcceec0 https://git.io/vKG7E (2016-07-10T21:07:17+01:00)
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21:04 jordan4ibanez Does minetest.spawn_tree get called when the terrain is generated?
21:06 Out`Of`Control is there a scuba mod
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21:23 jordan4ibanez LBM? What is the difference from a normal ABM?
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21:36 Hijiri LBM is run only once evert
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21:37 Hijiri oh, you can configure them to run at every load
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21:38 Hijiri ABMs run periodically, LBMs run when the block a node is in is loaded
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21:49 jordan4ibanez Thank you
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22:12 hisforever where can I find help for game servers (like finding land ownership)?
22:13 rubenwardy depends on the server
22:14 rubenwardy look on the forum for a server topic
22:14 rubenwardy for gameplay help, use /help and search for the mod they use
22:14 rubenwardy unless it's a special subgame like capturetheflag or lordofthetest, in which case look for this subgame thread
22:14 rubenwardy or ask online players
22:15 hisforever I'm on VenessaE game server
22:15 hisforever I've tried asking nobody will come back
22:16 hisforever Is there a web page for commands for minetest?
22:16 rubenwardy Type /help for server specific ones
22:17 rubenwardy !wiki chat commands
22:17 MinetestBot No such page.
22:17 rubenwardy !wiki chat command
22:17 hisforever Ty rubenwardy
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22:40 jordan4ibanez Where is leaf decay located?
22:40 est31 in the engine
22:40 est31 its an abm
22:40 est31 err
22:41 est31 not in the engine, in the game i mean
22:41 jordan4ibanez Well I mean, what file is it located in, I'm on the hunt
22:43 jordan4ibanez Oo, might have found it
22:44 Fixer default/functions.lua or smth
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