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00:05 shangul r computer mods real or they r just decors and paintings of computer?
00:05 KaadmY shangul: some are real i think
00:07 shangul they simulate a small computer?
00:11 shangul or they execuse cmds on my real world computer?
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00:50 shangul how do i make turtle(robot) working?
00:54 KaadmY <shangul> or they execuse cmds on my real world computer?
00:55 KaadmY some mods do that, but usually they're very special and only whitelist a few commands only
00:55 KaadmY and the mods that do have file access require extra privs and whitelisting on the server, if it's multiplayer
00:55 shangul hmm...thanks for answering that
00:55 KaadmY most mods just run custom languages or sandboxed lua
00:56 KaadmY and i remember there already being a turtle mod, maybe not though
00:57 shangul how do i use turtle?
00:57 KaadmY shangul: no idea
00:58 shangul !server
00:58 MinetestBot shangul: LinuxGaming2.com | LinuxGaming2.com | Clients: 0/15, 0/4 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 99ms
00:58 shangul why 0.4.14?
00:59 shangul any server for older vers?
00:59 shangul 0.4.13
01:00 shangul 0.4.9
01:09 KaadmY 0.4.14 will still allow 0.4.13 clients iirc
01:09 KaadmY !server justtest
01:09 MinetestBot KaadmY: No results
01:09 KaadmY !server xanadu
01:09 MinetestBot KaadmY: Xanadu | 98.166.90.48 | Clients: 17/40, 21/32 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 106ms
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01:14 DoyleChris could somebody take a look at this error
01:14 DoyleChris http://pastebin.com/9JuN0wMq
01:14 DoyleChris The world was running fine yestarday but my laptop shutdown and i restarted it now i get this error.
01:19 shangul doylichris, disable all mods then test
01:19 shangul doblye
01:19 shangul dolye
01:19 shangul doyle
01:19 shangul doylechris
01:20 DoyleChris what will that do to things i have installed example i have mesecons already put on my map and pipes
01:21 shangul i have no idea at all
01:21 DoyleChris well it started
01:28 DoyleChris but everything was without a texture then added technic back in but the machines are a wierd texture.
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01:29 DoyleChris I reinstalled the mods and ran them but the world still errors out.
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01:30 DoyleChris is there a way to see what i had for inventory to recreate the world.
01:32 shangul there is a problem with one of mods
01:33 DoyleChris well i created a new map with just mesecons and pipeworks and it worked ok.
01:33 DoyleChris so somewhere the map or info for the map is courpt
01:34 KaadmY if you can risk losing any items in pipes and any other entities, you can do /clearobjects
01:34 KaadmY (backup world first)
01:35 shangul note: to backup ur worlds(maps) u can copy them from minetest_dir/worlds/
01:35 DoyleChris without pipeworks and mesecons enabled
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01:40 DoyleChris seems like that world is toast
01:40 DoyleChris start another.
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05:16 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix -Wterminate warning on GCC 6 483cca7 https://git.io/vKOqv (2016-07-08T07:08:33+02:00)
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05:30 hicoleri is it possible to add a black background behind the chat log?
05:32 est31 hicoleri, you use version 0.4.14 of minetest?
05:32 hicoleri yes
05:32 est31 you want the background to be darker?
05:32 hicoleri est31
05:32 hicoleri yes
05:33 est31 because right now its already pretty dark
05:35 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix -Wterminate warnings in rollback.cpp as well 9db78dc https://git.io/vKOqh (2016-07-08T07:27:49+02:00)
05:35 est31 hicoleri, you can adjust the alpha setting with console_alpha
05:36 est31 also see the console_color setting
05:37 hicoleri est31:I want this to be darker, the chatlog. The console is already dark: http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/nk8.php
05:39 est31 hicoleri, that's not possible right now
05:39 hicoleri ok
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09:05 JamesTait Good morning all! ¬†Happy Friday, and happy Blueberry Day! ūüėÉ
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16:47 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Ubuntu build HOWTO: Suggest to install git instead of git-core 27905f1 https://git.io/vK3CZ (2016-07-08T17:07:31+02:00)
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17:39 Biomass2857 hi
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17:44 jackthegreat hell all
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17:45 Biomass2857 hi
17:45 jackthegreat *hello all
17:45 Biomass2857 how is it goin'
17:45 jackthegreat i am trying to create a server
17:45 jackthegreat need help
17:45 Biomass2857 are you experienced with c++?
17:46 jackthegreat nope
17:46 Biomass2857 well
17:46 Biomass2857 gonna lookup someone
17:46 jackthegreat is programming required?
17:46 Biomass2857 nono
17:46 Biomass2857 my problem is ...
17:46 Biomass2857 another one
17:46 jackthegreat ?
17:47 Biomass2857 well, programming isn't required to setup a server at all
17:48 jackthegreat ok i already portforwarded and did the stuff in minetest.conf (like settings)
17:48 Krock Ermahgerd! What's going on here?
17:48 jackthegreat im trying to create a server
17:48 Krock jackthegreat, server_announce = 1 set in the config?
17:48 jackthegreat nope its set to true
17:48 Krock doesn't matter
17:48 Krock 1 is true, and that's true.
17:48 jackthegreat kk
17:49 Krock did you forward the UDP port or just TCP?
17:49 Biomass2857 you have to set it to !false
17:49 jackthegreat what should i put for "server_dedicated ="
17:49 jackthegreat i did udp only
17:49 Krock Biomass2857, the settings parser can't read that expresion
17:49 Biomass2857 but it would be funny
17:50 swift110 hey all
17:50 jackthegreat do i need both udp and tcp?
17:50 Krock jackthegreat, that setting is not contained in the last Minetest version I got, so .. no idea
17:50 jackthegreat hmm ok
17:50 jackthegreat how about the udp and tcp
17:50 jackthegreat do i need to forward to both?
17:50 Biomass2857 krock, you are surely experienced with programming in c++, don't you?
17:50 Krock oh well, you can set it to true
17:51 jackthegreat kk
17:51 Krock jackthegreat, no only UDP is required
17:51 jackthegreat k already did that
17:51 Krock Biomass2857, I can write basic C++ programs but I'm still learning
17:52 Krock jackthegreat, do you have a client outside your network to test the connection?
17:52 jackthegreat what else should i do other than forwarding and setting up the settings
17:52 Biomass2857 ok, thanks anyway
17:52 jackthegreat yes
17:52 jackthegreat did not work
17:52 Krock starting the actual minetset-server wouldn't be too bad
17:52 jackthegreat i could connect to my server on a seperate window though
17:53 jackthegreat using 127.0.0.1. as port
17:53 Krock the server_address setting must not be set, if you did so
17:53 Krock 127.0.0.1 as PORT?
17:53 Krock please no! A port is a number between 1 and 65535
17:53 jackthegreat shoot
17:54 jackthegreat wait no
17:54 jackthegreat i meant address
17:54 Krock ah good
17:54 jackthegreat 30000 was port
17:54 Krock get your network internal IP, which isn't 127.0.0.1
17:54 jackthegreat ohhhh wait do you have this line "address ="
17:54 Krock and connect to that address
17:54 jackthegreat hmm ok
17:54 Krock "address =" is to save the last connected server for clients
17:55 jackthegreat kk
17:55 jackthegreat alright i reforwarded it to the right address
17:55 jackthegreat my external ip
17:55 Krock the network internal IP should be like 192.168.??.???
17:55 jackthegreat yes
17:56 Krock can you connect to that one with a network internal client?
17:57 jackthegreat what is that
17:57 jackthegreat actually i gtg grr
17:58 jackthegreat but thanks for helping me
17:58 Krock err ok
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20:44 shangul !server
20:44 MinetestBot shangul: German Minetest Server | minetest-german.ddns.net | Clients: 2/10, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 54ms
20:44 Calinou !servers
20:44 shangul Calinou, u r one of developers?
20:45 Calinou no
20:46 everamzah !server
20:46 MinetestBot everamzah: Cryt-Survival | mt.thatgraemeguy.co.za | Clients: 0/15, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.12-dev / dreambuiler | Ping: 158ms
20:46 everamzah what is that, random?
20:46 everamzah !server
20:46 MinetestBot everamzah: OldCoder Moontest-Solartest | minetest.org:30021 | Clients: 1/25, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / world_game | Ping: 84ms
20:46 everamzah oh good one
20:47 OldCoder Hi
20:48 shangul how can i mix worlds?i hav my world, i send it to a friend and he makes many changes.also i made many changes.now how to sync them?
20:48 shangul oldcoder, hai
20:48 OldCoder o/
20:48 Calinou shangul: try a software like Syncthing: http://syncthing.net
20:48 OldCoder Calinou, shangul elaborate
20:49 OldCoder shangul, do you mean merge map changes? There are several ways
20:49 OldCoder You can use schems to transfer buildings
20:49 OldCoder You can also merge worlds at the SQL level. I can help with that.
20:49 OldCoder Calinou, syncthing would not understand Minetest format, would it?
20:49 Calinou you wouldn't be able to both work on the world at the same time
20:49 OldCoder Right
20:49 Calinou but if you wait for the synchronization to finish, you'll be fine
20:50 OldCoder If they get merged now, that will work
20:50 OldCoder But must merge first
20:50 Calinou else, just make a server...
20:50 Calinou merging can't be done
20:50 OldCoder Sure it can
20:50 Calinou Minetest maps are a map.sqlite thing
20:50 * OldCoder does it all the time
20:50 OldCoder Right
20:50 Calinou it's a single file for Syncthing
20:50 OldCoder Well, yes
20:50 everamzah i like it when someone right-clicks with an empty wieldhand.
20:50 * everamzah activates
20:50 Calinou ACTIVATE POWER MODE!
20:50 everamzah haha
20:50 OldCoder shangul, do you have two different worlds or is one just a newer version of the other?
20:50 Calinou https://atom.io/packages/activate-power-mode
20:51 shangul [] <Calinou> shangul: try a software like Syncthing: http://syncthing.net => not dis i need a software which do that
20:51 everamzah wow that's exactly how i pictured it :D
20:51 OldCoder shangul, is one world the same as the other but newer?
20:51 OldCoder Or did you both make changes>
20:51 OldCoder ?
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20:53 shangul we had the same world first but then we each one made our own changes.
20:54 twoelk changes as in adding other mods?
20:54 shangul no
20:54 shangul changes r new buildings
20:54 twoelk use WorldEdit for transfering buildings
20:56 OldCoder shangul, there are two basic ways
20:56 * twoelk waits for OldCoders world manipulating on sqlite basis tool to be disclosed
20:56 OldCoder #1 What twoelk said. You can make schems and load them.
20:56 OldCoder #2 What twoelk also said. I have a tool for this purpose. I can merge your worlds.
20:56 OldCoder Done
20:57 OldCoder If it is just a dozen buildings
20:57 OldCoder #1 is simple
20:57 twoelk :-)
20:57 OldCoder
20:57 OldCoder If it is major changes, I will take a look
20:57 OldCoder However, you will need to decide which world's buildings take priority
20:57 shangul u have a tool,where i can download it?
20:58 twoelk if buildings are in the same mapchunk #2 wont work though
20:58 OldCoder Tool is 1 to 2 years away from download, sorry. I would do this myself.
20:58 OldCoder twoelk see above. I addressed this...
20:58 OldCoder He would need to say which world's buildings
20:58 OldCoder take priority in that case
20:58 shangul ok and thanks
20:58 twoelk yep - ninjaed
20:58 OldCoder Yep
20:58 OldCoder shangul How many buildings are there?
20:58 OldCoder Schems have the advantage over my tool...
20:58 shangul i go with #1
20:58 OldCoder Yes
20:59 OldCoder If you have many changes, my merge is better
20:59 OldCoder For a dozen or a few dozen buildings
20:59 OldCoder schems are recommended
20:59 shangul [09:31] <OldCoder> shangul How many buildings are there? => idk
20:59 OldCoder 10? 100? 500?
20:59 OldCoder Probably less than 30, right?
20:59 twoelk do try on some other world first though, WE needs practice
21:00 OldCoder Do NOT try to schem large areas
21:00 OldCoder Do a few buildings together at a time
21:00 OldCoder If the world turns dark, tell us
21:00 shangul ok
21:00 OldCoder We can fix lighting problems
21:00 OldCoder Avoid very large or very tall schems
21:00 OldCoder Make them just a little taller than buildings
21:01 * twoelk wishes mapfix was included in minetest
21:01 OldCoder If you proceed with just a few buildings at a time, it should work
21:01 OldCoder Right
21:01 OldCoder Practice on a new copy of the map
21:01 OldCoder Tell us what happens. All right?
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21:04 mangul where to download we?
21:05 mangul oh im 2!
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21:06 mangul cool :D
21:06 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/v‚Äčiewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=572
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21:08 twoelk once you learned how to use WE this might be interesting https://forum.minetest.net/v‚Äčiewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=7304
21:10 twoelk https://forum.minetest.net/v‚Äčiewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=13116 this mod by Sokomine is also pretty useful but it may work on Linux machines better than on Windows computers
21:13 Krock !mod handle_schematics
21:13 MinetestBot Krock: Could not find anything.
21:13 Krock oh srsly?
21:14 Krock I see. It doesn't have a [Mod] tag
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21:16 * twoelk wonders whether handle_schematics would work on XP
21:16 * Krock thinks so
21:16 * Krock thinks that LuaJIT behaves the same way everywhere it's possible to run it
21:17 twoelk I think the problem was finding paths to files
21:18 shangul thx downloaded we and saved other urls
21:19 shangul what can i do with mt + py?
21:19 twoelk calculate circles?
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21:24 shangul what?
21:24 twoelk consider it a joke ;-P
21:27 shangul how can i make turtles(robot) work?
21:28 shangul !server
21:28 MinetestBot shangul: Mine Long and Prosper | 75.163.214.31:30022 | Clients: 0/25, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 149ms
21:28 shangul !server
21:28 MinetestBot shangul: Just creative world | hasanalsamra.tk:30001 | Clients: 14/40, 14/14 | Version: 0.4.14 / minetest | Ping: 151ms
21:29 shangul !server
21:29 MinetestBot shangul: RebelGames.net Minetest server | minetest.rebelgames.net | Clients: 0/40, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 34ms
21:29 Krock please
21:29 shangul k
21:29 Krock http://servers.minetest.net/
21:29 shangul ik
21:29 shangul but tu
21:30 Krock tu?
21:30 shangul thank u
21:30 Krock k np
21:30 shangul ;)
21:30 twoelk http://wiki.minetest.net/Mods:Learning  you may try some of the links listed on this page under simple coding
21:31 shangul for what purpose?
21:31 shangul turtle?
21:31 twoelk yep
21:31 shangul k
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21:35 shangul https://forum.minetest.net/v‚Äčiewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=11098
21:35 shangul ^ i didnt understand
21:36 shangul still idk how to make a working robot
21:36 Krock again a mod that's not documented well
21:37 shangul ah
21:37 Krock I think you should simply download the mod, activate it and see what it offers
21:37 Krock then some clicking around and hope that it works :P
21:38 shangul i did
21:38 twoelk --To use it, place a turtle, create a floppy disk and a floppy programmer, put the floppy inside the programmer, and select the "Forth Boot Disk" program. Finally, put it in the turtle, and reboot.--
21:38 shangul and i could just program a bootable flpy and boot turtle via it
21:38 twoelk hehe
21:39 twoelk I haven't tried it with recent minetest though
21:39 shangul ok then?
21:39 shangul how do i command it?
21:41 Krock looks like you can use lua expressions
21:41 shangul may u give me some examples?
21:42 shangul because idk lua
21:42 Krock turtle.forward()
21:42 Krock that should move the node one forward but I have no plan if it really works
21:42 shangul where i can get a list of cmds?
21:43 Krock It's not documentet, so you'll have too look up the source code. WHat an irony. You learn Lua by learning how to use a lua learning mod
21:43 Krock https://github.com/Ekdohibs/tur‚Äčtle/blob/master/turtle.lua#L703
21:43 * twoelk is playing on Xanadu dares not to start a new instance of minetest to check the mod as he cant remember how it worked exactly
21:44 shangul twoelk, u r the developer of dis?
21:44 twoelk nope
21:44 Krock nore!
21:45 nore hi
21:45 Krock hai :)
21:45 nore hm, you have to program it in Forth
21:45 twoelk although I might have written a program called dis or probably just a bat - squeek
21:45 nore and sorry, I should really document that mod sometime
21:46 shangul nore, u r developer of dis?
21:46 nore yup
21:46 Krock He's the creator
21:46 shangul ok
21:46 shangul nore--
21:46 shangul ;)
21:46 nore :D
21:46 twoelk maybe : c 90 0 do [ U G G G G G G G G G D G ] 4 A Z R loop ; c    ?
21:47 shangul happy 1st nagative karma nore!
21:47 twoelk stolen from that other mod
21:47 Krock but the funny thing is that sometimes you don't know what you programmed some years ago and then you're like in a 3rd person perspective and don't understand anything anymore
21:47 nore twoelk: nope, doesn't work the same
21:47 twoelk :-(
21:47 nore you have to put fuel in it and tell it to refuel first
21:48 nore then, you have the UP/DN/FW/BW commands IIRC
21:48 Krock but then why this sandbox?
21:48 nore sorry again, this mod is totally undocumented and not finished
21:48 nore Krock: two reasons
21:48 nore to get a computer that you can stop, reboot, etc
21:48 nore and because Forth is fun and still a simple language to implement
21:49 nore (and an efficient one)
21:49 Krock oh right, there's also a computer. not just a turtle - I totally forgot that :<
21:49 nore yup
21:49 nore the turtle is controlled by the computer inside it
21:49 shangul nore, what can i do with the computer?
21:49 Krock sounds like it's programmable by Lua
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21:50 nore Krock: nope, Forth again
21:50 shangul which comes with turtle
21:50 nore if you want lua, use luacontroller from mesecons
21:50 nore well, the computer works exactly like the turtle
21:50 Krock aaagh.. but I thought this enviroment table was used for some command inputs
21:50 nore except it can't move
21:50 nore and it doesn't have this hardwired boot disk
21:50 nore Krock: what environment table?
21:51 Krock https://github.com/Ekdohibs/tur‚Äčtle/blob/master/turtle.lua#L703
21:51 Krock ^ this one
21:51 nore dead code
21:51 nore from when the turtle still used Lua
21:51 Krock oh. Rest in peace
21:51 nore (and coroutines)
21:51 nore (yes, it was extremely hacky)
21:51 Krock it totally confused me :<
21:52 shangul nore, i have a forth boot disk with a raw turtle.how do i tell it go forward 10 and dig down 3?
21:52 nore shangul: first, you press the boot button
21:52 nore it should tell you "Computer is ready"
21:52 shangul yea
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21:53 nore then, you put fuel it its first inventory slot
21:53 nore and you do something like 1 1 REFUEL
21:53 nore it should use an item of fuel
21:53 nore then, FW to move forwards
21:53 nore if you want to do a loop, you have to put it inside a function
21:54 nore so, : FW-N 0 DO FW LOOP ;
21:54 nore 10 FW-N
21:54 nore ehm, this will clutter the stack though
21:54 nore as FW adds the result of whether it could move forwards on the stack
21:54 nore so 0 DO FW DROP LOOP might be better
21:55 nore and to dig down, it would be DIG-DN (or DIG-DOWN, I don't remember)
21:55 nore you can do the same kind of thing
21:56 shangul hmm i should learn forth
21:56 nore yup
21:56 shangul [16:25] <nore> then, you put fuel it its first inventory slot => what is fuel?
21:57 nore anything that can burn in a furnace
21:57 twoelk ah, a rubish burner
21:58 shangul ill check the logs tommarow
21:58 shangul pls
21:59 shangul for god's sake
21:59 shangul always document ur code
21:59 shangul and ur prj
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22:00 shangul !karma nore
22:00 Krock !commands
22:00 shangul !commands
22:00 Krock shangul: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb‚Äčot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
22:01 shangul o.o
22:01 shangul [16:33] <Krock> shangul: ¬†https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb‚Äčot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md => i thought bot answered ;]
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23:02 jackthegreat hi everyone i was on here a few hours ago
23:02 jackthegreat so i need help on creating a server
23:02 jackthegreat if anyone can assist it would be appreciated
23:09 shangul did u read the wiki?
23:12 jackthegreat yes
23:12 jackthegreat i already portforwarded
23:12 shangul ok whats wrong then?
23:13 jackthegreat i cant get my server to appear on the list
23:15 shangul idk maybe u should add it manually
23:16 jackthegreat how do i do that?
23:16 shangul idk
23:16 shangul idk minetest
23:17 shangul well im just a gamer
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23:25 everamzah what the ip jackthegreat
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23:26 shangul aw
23:27 jackthegreat 66.249.65.23
23:27 jackthegreat what for?
23:27 everamzah what for?  the server ip address
23:28 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23
23:28 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down
23:28 everamzah o/
23:28 jackthegreat hm
23:28 everamzah is it... running?
23:28 jackthegreat yeah....
23:28 jackthegreat what should the address line be?
23:29 jackthegreat i put 127.0.0.1.
23:29 everamzah and it says that it's announced to public server list?
23:29 jackthegreat yes
23:29 everamzah well, 127.0.0.1 won't work because that's an internal number
23:29 everamzah same for 192.168, etc
23:29 jackthegreat should i replace with external ip
23:30 everamzah the address that you want a player to connect to.  unless they're on the same computer as you, 127.0.0.1 won't work.  it has the be the publicly accessible ip, that your ISP has assigned to you
23:30 everamzah !up 24.94.11.242
23:30 MinetestBot 24.94.11.242:30000 seems to be down
23:30 jackthegreat lol i see
23:31 jackthegreat !up 66.249.65.23
23:31 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down
23:31 everamzah and that's bind_address too, i think
23:31 everamzah have you been looking in minetest.conf.example?
23:31 jackthegreat yep
23:31 everamzah oh server_address = whatever ur ip is
23:32 everamzah what is ur ip?  66.249.65.23 ?
23:32 jackthegreat yep
23:32 everamzah oh i'm pinging it now anyway that's good right?
23:32 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23
23:32 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down
23:32 jackthegreat i just repalced it though and restarted the command window
23:32 everamzah but... something still not right.  try pasting your entire minetest.conf on pastebin.com or somewhere
23:33 everamzah oh ok let's try again then
23:33 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23
23:33 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down
23:33 jackthegreat maintab_LAST = multiplayer menu_last_game = minetest name = jackthegreatest server_dedicated = false address = 66.249.65.23 aux1_descends = false doubletap_jump = false fast_move = true free_move = true keymap_backward = KEY_KEY_S keymap_chat = KEY_KEY_T keymap_cinematic = KEY_F8 keymap_cmd = / keymap_console = KEY_F10 keymap_drop = KEY_KEY_Q keymap_fastmove = KEY_KEY_J keymap_forward = KEY_KEY_W keymap_freemove = KEY_KEY_K ke
23:33 everamzah that
23:33 KaadmY >.<
23:33 everamzah haha
23:33 everamzah address is different than server_address
23:33 * KaadmY cringes
23:34 everamzah that's not even all of it, eh?  definitely paste somewhere jackthegreat
23:34 everamzah (but please not directly in this channel)
23:34 jackthegreat haha
23:34 everamzah so you have server_address = 66.249.65.23 now?
23:35 jackthegreat yep
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23:35 everamzah did you do it for bind_address too?  i don't think you need other, but now i don't know
23:36 jackthegreat i dont think i have the bind address line
23:36 everamzah minetest.conf.example says server_address = _domain_ you want listed on master list
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23:36 everamzah well try bind_address.  i didn't think you had to set that
23:37 jackthegreat alright i just pasted onto the pastebin thing
23:37 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23
23:37 everamzah oh?
23:37 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down
23:38 * everamzah searches pastebin.org
23:38 everamzah FOUND IT
23:38 everamzah http://pastebin.com/0QEuaBg4
23:38 jackthegreat yep
23:39 everamzah um, jack
23:39 jackthegreat go ahead
23:39 everamzah i don't see server_announce jack
23:39 everamzah i mean, i don't see server_address
23:39 jackthegreat its on way bottom
23:39 everamzah i see announce, but not server_address.  i see address = but that's where you want to connect to
23:39 everamzah oh ok let me look
23:39 everamzah http://pastebin.com/0QEuaBg4 this right?
23:40 everamzah because it has no server_address
23:40 everamzah looks like you really do need that one
23:40 jackthegreat hmm your right
23:40 jackthegreat i dont have it
23:40 everamzah \xD/
23:40 everamzah we can do it!
23:41 jackthegreat so i put server_address = 66.249.65.23
23:41 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23
23:41 everamzah and restarted?
23:41 MinetestBot ...
23:41 jackthegreat not yet
23:41 everamzah MinetestBot: c'mon
23:42 jackthegreat lol
23:42 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23
23:42 MinetestBot ...
23:42 everamzah ?
23:42 KaadmY wat
23:42 KaadmY MinetestBot: please
23:42 KaadmY !up 127.0.0.1
23:42 jackthegreat whats wrong with server
23:42 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30000 seems to be down
23:42 KaadmY rofl
23:42 KaadmY duh it's down :P
23:42 jomat hm
23:42 everamzah so why does it say only ...
23:42 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23
23:42 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down
23:43 jackthegreat sheesh
23:43 everamzah jack paste the new config
23:43 jackthegreat i restarted it also
23:43 jackthegreat so i added in the server address line
23:43 jackthegreat but what else did you say i needed?
23:43 everamzah i think all that you need is server_address = publicly accessible ip
23:44 jackthegreat !up 66.249.65.23
23:44 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down
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23:44 jackthegreat do you have a server of your own?
23:45 everamzah yes
23:45 everamzah it just crashed tho haha
23:45 jackthegreat is it running on a windows?
23:45 everamzah and i don't have it on a loop, and i'm not restarting it until i find the bug
23:45 everamzah i don't own windows, unfortunately
23:45 everamzah but i think it doesn't make a difference?  unless, you think it's like a firewall dealy
23:45 KaadmY i would call not owning windows "fortunate" :P
23:46 KaadmY .l;
23:46 everamzah i was able to ping you ok... but i dunno much about networking
23:46 jackthegreat oh yeah i didnt unblock in my antivirus
23:46 KaadmY oh
23:46 KaadmY that would probably cause problems
23:47 jackthegreat but it would only corrupt the map
23:47 jackthegreat not get in the way
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23:48 jackthegreat everamzah could you post your command line on bpastebin
23:48 jackthegreat *minetest.conf
23:48 everamzah oh sure thing
23:49 jackthegreat so is your server able to be displayed on the server list?
23:49 jackthegreat and let me know when its up
23:50 everamzah http://pastebin.com/ySna2jyr
23:50 everamzah it thought i was a spammer and i had to identify commerical trucks
23:50 everamzah i feel dirty
23:51 jackthegreat lol
23:52 jackthegreat is that post your entire .conf?
23:53 everamzah oh, sorry.  it just crashed, it's down
23:53 everamzah it's normally up
23:53 everamzah and yea, that's the entire .conf
23:53 jackthegreat hmm maybe my .conf has a whole bunch of extra files?
23:53 jackthegreat *extra lines
23:54 everamzah fun_caves is passing userdata to minetest.is_protected() instead of a username string it appears
23:54 everamzah yes jack inoticed that
23:54 everamzah i separate my client .conf from my server .conf
23:55 jackthegreat so this one is your server.conf
23:55 jackthegreat but what would client.conf be for
23:56 everamzah ok i restarted it
23:56 everamzah well, i don't generally play minetest on the same PC i host it on
23:56 everamzah you can use any file, filename, and the --config option to select which
23:56 everamzah so for example, minetestserver --config mycoolserver.conf
23:57 everamzah as opposed to minetest --go --address 127.0.0.1 --name jack --config mycoolclient.conf
23:57 everamzah but there's a lot of different ways to do similar things
23:57 everamzah !up 66.249.65.23
23:57 jackthegreat ok you lost me haha
23:57 MinetestBot 66.249.65.23:30000 seems to be down
23:57 everamzah you're launching from the command line?  or the client program?
23:58 everamzah you can start a server from the client program, i used to, just by checking the Public checkbox
23:58 everamzah but it's generally easier to do minetestserver or minetest --server from the command line.  especially so you can see the log.  and with the --terminal argument you can interact with the server without logging in with the client
23:59 jackthegreat command line

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