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00:06 swift110 hey all
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00:22 domtron hi swift110
00:31 swift110 hey domtron how are you?
00:37 domtron @swift110: I'm doing ok. How about you?
00:45 swift110 im great domtron
00:47 domtron been reading some of the "drama" on the server section and was wondering... Has anyone tried to implement some sort of quality assurance for new players? I was thinking something like a set of puzzles or something designed to drive away certain types of players (short attention span, people who can't follow instructions). Only if you solve them can you enter the real game and get interact ect. I don't know if that is unkind or what, but I
00:47 domtron am curious if anyone had tried it.
00:50 TheReaperKing Does anyone know of any good examples of lbm s
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00:54 Glorfindel domtron: in the Xanadu thread?
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00:57 domtron @Glorfindel ya I was reading that one in particular but also remembering some of the "I'm leaving" threads that complained about servers with lots bad players.
00:58 domtron I frankly haven't played on servers myself. My internet connection is too bad (generally <20ish kbi/s)
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01:10 Volkj is the Xanadu server population that "bad"? Not the first time that server got talked here
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01:17 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Stairs: Stair recipe returns 8 stairs not 6 5809c28 https://git.io/vo6yF (2016-06-22T02:12:57+01:00)
01:17 MinetestBot [git] xunto -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Fix character model uv-mapping e77ef55 https://git.io/vo6yb (2016-06-22T02:12:11+01:00)
01:17 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Remove mortar from stone brick, desert stone brick 1fafed3 https://git.io/vo6yN (2016-06-22T02:10:52+01:00)
01:19 domtron I had always hear that it was good. I think I even heard a couple people say it was the best server. this is the first time I've heard about it being bad though I haven't been following servers. I keep to the mods section usually. It's just the past couple of days I have been skiming all the sections and contributing a bit.
01:20 domtron @ Volkj
01:21 Glorfindel Volkj: it's a very popular server, with lots of new people all the time. As such it attracts bad players along with the good
01:34 Volkj domtron: it seems that has many mods, and mainly mobs. FWIV on servers people complain that X server isn't like minecraft because this or that, mainly mobs. Are mobs the added value in a minetest server? Seems so
01:35 H-H-H the answer to that is simple
01:36 H-H-H minetest != minecraft
01:36 Volkj the type of player that wants a minecraft experience tends to be the less calm usually. results may vary
01:37 Volkj that from a pov of server attractiveness
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01:50 domtron @ Volkj , H-H-H : I frankly wouldn't mind more of a minecraft experience. That is have a good amount of polish in the UI and in other places (I think we are getting there though). I think people go a bit overboard about the "we are not <distain>minecraft</distain>" because of the, paraphrasing what you said, loud majority. I think there is lots to barrow from MC especially from the mods which I frankly don't see as being "minecraft" per-sa
01:50 domtron y. Just good ideas and a lot of hard work by passionate voxel game players.
01:51 Volkj in order to make minetest more like minecraft, you need... a company behind
01:51 domtron that's not to say I don't get annoyed by the regular post of "can you add this thing that is exactly like vanilla MC"
01:53 domtron @ Volkj: meh I don't totally agree with that. I mean that would defiantly help but there are examples of FOSS that is very polished and has no company related to it. On the top of my mind is Battle for wesnoth.
01:54 H-H-H i am only echoing what other devs have said including celeron
01:55 Volkj domtron: more like few projects in a sea of many. BoW seems to fit a niche with low competition, where minetest is against minecraft, the "giant"
01:55 domtron I would say Libre office and appache but I think both have companies behind them (or at least foundations, not sure how those work exactly).
01:57 domtron @ H-H-H , yep I've heard them say it. And I'm not totally disagreeing with that either. I'm just saying there is a middle ground that could be taken.
01:57 Volkj libreoffice started from sun's staroffice opened in openoffice then modified in go-openoffice by suse, now has a foundation but mainly collabora and other sponsors, as they can take openoffice code easily. IBM may be behind too, see lotus symphony, even if it's more linked to openoffice
01:57 Volkj btw, what end did openoffice? lookin
01:58 domtron sorry don't understand the question...
01:59 Volkj beside the company behind, minecraft kinda started the genre and more, the trend
02:00 Volkj minetest was viewed as "not-pay-minecraft-clone" for not so long ago, the difference in perception plays a good role
02:05 domtron well to be exact the guy who built infiniminer, Zachary, started the genre, which is what Notch based MC on, to my understanding. (BTW have you seen the other experimental games by Zachary? Some are pretty interesting especially infini-factory which I think is based on MC, ironically XD)
02:06 Volkj thinking another way, it's the same difference between Windows and Linux. As Windows is largely spread, why a person should go to Linux if he can get Windows for few money (preinstalled) or free of money as Linux (other ways, largely illegal)? This argument keeps going on and on on on the web
02:06 domtron but yes Mojang totally got the trend rolling.
02:07 Fritigern What illegal ways are there to obtain Linux?
02:08 Volkj seems by samsung https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11914533
02:08 domtron @ Fritigern he means illegal ways to obtain windows for free like linux is free.
02:08 Volkj got that, @ domtron.
02:08 domtron at least that is what I understood it to mean.
02:09 Volkj there's one way to get windows legally free now, insider program. You'll be a tester, but free Windows! something i can live without
02:13 swift110-phone back
02:18 domtron And the OS debate is a bit different. Windows has major and obvious flaws all the way down to it's kernel(if it's called that... that might just be a linux/unix term). The way windows persists is simply that people are familiar with them so those people insist on their employees to use it and they introduce their families to it and they make their software for it ect adnausium. Essentially a "I use it because most people I know use it" men
02:18 domtron tality. Windows used to be more polished which is how it got so much more popular(that and Bill Gates amazing marketing skills+little competition, or so I have read) then Linux, but now days linux, especially the ubuntu flavors, is very user friendly. And we are seeing more consumer software working on linux as well as windows.
02:18 domtron and I am so far off topic x.x
02:18 domtron also too slow at typing >.<
02:19 swift110-phone lol
02:20 Volkj windows success came from preinstalled, see the Linux that made it, Android. But the argument can be adapted well in the minetest vs minecraft debate
02:21 swift110-phone ok how so
02:22 swift110-phone i like minetest but i don't understand why tutorial isnt installed by default
02:22 Volkj imho minetest tends to be an engine with a minimal game over it
02:23 swift110-phone I don't understand that terminology
02:23 domtron @ swift110-phone which terminology?
02:24 Volkj engine = what runs the game, minimal game = the game you can play on vanilla minetest
02:24 Volkj minecraft tends to expand the vanilla game including more contents
02:26 swift110-phone ok
02:27 swift110-phone i still feel that tutorial should be installed by default
02:27 Volkj got a typo, wrote minetext (so if someone wants to make a curses version has a name XD)
02:28 domtron hehe :P
02:28 swift110-phone I want to see more people enjoy the game i see that its very flexible and i love that
02:29 Volkj given that most people i saw on servers get on android, the first thing they'll do will be skipping the tutorial and get straight on online game
02:30 domtron hmm, I have totally lost what we were talking about. o.O I guess Minecraft vs Minetest is 3 camps: "I don't care i just want to play", "we don't want to look anything like MC", and "we want it to look exactly like MC". Each has various reasons for their "position." I guess I'm just saying I wish people would not shoot down an idea just because "MC does it. we are not MC. therefore we cannot do it." but especially when it comes to modded mi
02:30 domtron necraft.
02:31 swift110-phone ok
02:31 swift110-phone well whenever i show people minetest they just feel like its a rip off of mc
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02:32 Volkj i think some people first play minecraft and get accustomed, then feels tired and try minetest thinking it's better, but they find another game. Right, minetest best word from minecraft is "different"
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02:33 swift110-phone hmm
02:34 swift110-phone how do i show the differences between mc and minetest
02:34 Volkj ask them if they bought minecraft first :P
02:36 swift110-phone well chances are they did
02:36 swift110-phone but most people have never heard of minecraft
02:36 swift110-phone i mean minetest
02:37 Volkj when all the sites and media makes the digital LEGO = minecraft equality it's hard to be noted
02:39 swift110-phone true
02:39 swift110-phone it does re
02:39 swift110-phone remind me of legos
02:40 Volkj i'd take the chance to say that Minecraft substituted LEGO for new generations of people
02:41 Volkj and for that, even paying is a problem
02:42 Volkj how much time a kid will play with a $20 LEGO kit? he'll surely wants more, but in Minecraft mods are free, and the game main selling point is the gratification in seeing your creations and the work you've done for them in making and collecting the materials
02:42 domtron heh there is a thread on the forum about Roblox, which is basically electronic legos. so it is interesting you bring that up.
02:43 Volkj thanks for the name domtron, i've got the reason that minetest started
02:44 Volkj minetest is a clone to make money  - https://forum.roblox.com/Forum​/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=93233592
02:44 Volkj 5th post
02:44 Volkj we've been fooled, the whole opensource, free, yaddayadda, all for money! :-D
02:46 domtron @ Volkj of course you could just buy a 3d printer and make your own legos. :P I've actually read some interesting articals about that. This one guy designed 3D printable adapters between every kind of block building type toy. There were like 40 parts he designed. Another one ran tests with a little DIY mechine that tested how many times you could put together and pull apart official legos vs 3D printed ones.
02:47 domtron wait really they mentioned Minetest. o.o
02:48 domtron "Minecraft is written in some irrevelent language called Java and is closed-source." hehe, my sentiments exactly. :3
02:49 Volkj chance are some are trolling
02:50 DonBatman if you are asking what the difference between minetest and minecraft is then that is easy. Minecraft is a game where as minetest is a game engine that supports many games
02:51 DonBatman You get a basic game to begin with and you can make it how ever you want with mods or sub games
02:51 DonBatman minetest is very flexable aand allows for many different types of games to be made
02:53 Volkj imho there isn't an effort to make minetest as minecraft, more to keep it as it is
02:54 Volkj right or wrong? personal choices, but please don't go to servers talking about minecraft is better yaddayadda
02:54 swift110-phone hm
02:55 Volkj generally talking.
02:55 DonBatman The effort is in making it a great engine. The thing that is lacking right now is subgame developers that have great unique ideas
02:56 DonBatman minetest will never be like minecraft. It will always be focused on being an engine for many types of games
02:57 Volkj let's ask notch to help as game designer in minetest_game :D
02:58 DonBatman Why Notch? There are many better game devs in the world
02:58 swift110-phone h..
02:58 swift110-phone hmm
02:59 Volkj just the first that came in mind related to voxel games
02:59 DonBatman besides I imagine he has a contract with MS that states he can not dev any competitive games
02:59 domtron I actually think the whole "Minetest is an engine" is a bit off. Unity 3D is an engine. Irrlich is an engine. Alephone is an engine(shameless plug for a FPS engine I like :3). You don't run an engine directly, you run a game which incorporates an engine. I feel it would be better to call minetest a platform or framework (or something... idk. This idea/peeve of mine needs more research) or to seperate it out so you have a game library clien
02:59 domtron t that launches games and connects to servers and the library that can be included into your application. But this idea is weak which is why I haven't tried to push for discussion in the forum or anything. x.x (and again I'm typing too slow and the conversation has moved on :P)
03:00 Volkj carmack is taken by facebook, maybe american mcgee, but then every block you dig will bleed
03:02 Volkj keep going domtron. Are you on a phone for that slow typing or you just are not accustomed to fast typing?
03:02 Volkj not that it means
03:03 domtron From what I've read Notch probebly wouldn't mind helping out. Then again maybe he would. Main reason he sold the company was because of all the drama. He just wants to make fun and unique ideas into games. This is a thing we should NOT barrow from MC. That is the attitude of the community. x.x
03:05 domtron Volkj, nope I'm on my PC. I just hunt and peck. Which is ok for programming but not good for conversations. Also I'm kindof anti-social so it takes a minute to parse what people say and form a semi-coherent thought.
03:05 DonBatman Notch is more than welcome to develop games for minetest
03:05 Volkj domtron: take your time. Fast typing without errors (or even without watching the keyboard) isn't a skill one learns fast
03:06 Volkj and given my not-so-good english, many people will sure think multiple stuff about my words :D
03:06 domtron I got to scoot. Or at least AFK. Got some choirs to take care of. been fun talking instead of lurking for once. :P
03:07 DonBatman As for minetest not being an engine... you can not play minetest without a game installed. Whether it is in single player or on a server a game is required
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03:26 swift110-phone back
03:26 swift110-phone so what do you think is nwwded2
03:27 swift110-phone what do you think is needed to improve minetest?
03:28 Volkj mainly some cleanups, as there are many papercuts. But before that, searching, knowing and separating the problems between minetest and minetest_game to not make wrong choices
03:29 swift110-phone what do you mean paper cuta
03:29 swift110-phone paper cuts
03:30 Volkj it's a term used by canonical https://wiki.ubuntu.com/One%20Hundred%20Papercuts (%20 in a url? crazy)
03:31 Volkj it means a problem that can annoy but usually isn't that bad to feel it, so you forget about it after some time. But it remains annoying the time you get it
03:32 swift110-phone oh i see
03:32 swift110-phone volkk
03:33 swift110-phone volkj how long u been playing minetest?
03:33 Volkj circa 6 months on the server i'm at moment
03:34 Volkj counting singleplayer and past server experiences, 5 years
03:35 swift110-phone wow
03:35 swift110-phone thats a ling time
03:35 swift110-phone did you play mc before?
03:36 Volkj having a low end pc helps in the choice. never player minecraft, except the browser (classic?) version, practically a digging simulator
03:36 Volkj got recently into modding, but i'm still a newbie
03:37 swift110-phone og
03:37 swift110-phone oh
03:37 swift110-phone ok
03:37 Volkj i still have something against tables in lua, they're... different from what i was accustomed
03:37 swift110-phone what ya mean
03:38 Volkj i just need time to know lua better
03:38 swift110-phone i see
03:38 Hijiri it would be nice if lua came with an immutable table type
03:38 swift110-phone i would lice
03:38 swift110-phone i wof
03:39 Hijiri maybe in addition to the mutable one it has now
03:39 swift110-phone i would love to play minetest on a huge screen
03:39 Volkj well, as conv gone into modding... i used code from default mod in a mod of mine, but i used GPL3 for it. Have i made it wrong?
03:39 swift110-phone and with a joystick
03:39 Hijiri default mod is GPLv2+ right? You can relicense under GPLv3
03:39 Volkj for the joystick part, testing version of minetest has gamepad support
03:41 Volkj swift110-phone: even if i could, i can't play minetest on a touchscreen device. Mice are addictive
03:42 swift110-phone lol
03:42 swift110-phone i would love to play minetest with like a virtual glove
03:43 Volkj i think minecraft is more supported on that side, with VR
03:46 swift110-phone oh ok
03:49 swift110-phone i figured that
03:50 Volkj however, if you don't mind duct tape, you can make something with a wiimote and glovepie scripts
03:52 swift110-phone lol
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04:47 domtron back just for a bit.
04:58 domtron huh this site is nice: http://minetest.tv/ . Nice looking design and clear presentation.
05:05 Volkj tv domain -> suspicious -> looks really a television channel
05:07 domtron suspicious? it's basically a youtube channel with a website, blog, and a bit of a community.
05:08 Volkj shady sites usually have these kind of domains, but even google didn't report virus so i did watched
05:08 domtron I mean I didn't dig around that much but content wise it didn't look suspicious. Maybe they have a link to a hacked client, but I didn't go so far as to look. /me shrugs
05:09 domtron but ya I know what you mean.
05:11 domtron kindof interesting that I was just talking about roblox/legos on the forum, then talked to you about legos, and now I run into this site which runs a lego textured minetest server. XD
05:17 domtron huh. apparently the blogger knows DonBatman. http://blog.minetest.tv/xtr​eme-server-map-progress-2/
05:18 Volkj who knows if with clientside mods you can make a cat with nodes and have it running on the server
05:20 Volkj err, a car not a cat
05:20 Volkj great idea
05:26 domtron good night. Sleep well all.
05:26 Volkj bye
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08:20 Calinou Hijiri: most default mods are LGPLv2+
08:21 BubblezRaging I need a admimn for stormchaser3000's survival server i have a greifer
08:38 Hijiri Calinou: Sorry, my mistake
08:39 Calinou LGPLv2.1+ to be more accurate
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08:39 Calinou so, it's recommended to use the same license for your modifications
08:39 everamzah where's the fun in that?
08:39 JamesTait Good morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy Chocolate Eclair Day! 😃
08:39 Calinou everamzah: you can use a more permissive license too
08:39 Calinou like CC0/WTFPL/Unlicense
08:40 everamzah not if it's lgpl
08:40 Calinou everamzah: for your modifcations, you can license them under anything
08:40 Calinou (this has little practical effect though)
08:40 everamzah right, so then u wouldn't be able to relicense the entire mod
08:41 everamzah just license ur own modifications separatly... sounds complicated
08:41 Calinou yes
08:41 everamzah but u can take the whole lgpl 2.1+ mod and make it all gpl3
08:41 everamzah or all gpl2
08:41 everamzah yes?
08:42 everamzah i think that's right
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08:43 Calinou yes
08:43 Calinou since it has "or later" clause
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12:23 * nm0i is tired of running /rollback and /ban every morning
12:23 nm0i Has anyone tried to feed logs to neural net?
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12:27 Fixer why?
12:28 nm0i Most griefers aren't that smart. There must be pattern to their behavior.
12:32 Calinou that would be very CPU-consuming
12:32 Calinou nm0i: get more moderators :P
12:32 Calinou ideally there should be always 1 moderator online on your server
12:32 Calinou if not 2
12:33 nm0i I don't trust humans :(
12:33 Calinou then have pony moderators
12:36 nm0i Hm. Ponies are good, yes...
12:36 Devices make a rule that allows griefing
12:36 Devices then there's nothing to moderate
12:37 Devices problem solved
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12:43 everamzah !server Fun Caves
12:43 MinetestBot everamzah: [FCS] Fun Caves | lumaria.duckdns.org | Clients: 2/15, 1/2 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 120ms
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13:32 modo 110.247.115.137:30000 my server, please come and play
13:34 Volkj i'd suggest a domain
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13:36 modo i'm planning a ddns
13:36 Volkj ic. saw you got another game on 30001 port, from server list
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13:38 modo yes,but this one disappeared,i dont know why
13:39 domtron good morning Volkj, modo
13:40 Volkj welcome back domtron
13:40 modo good morning domtron (in fact it`s night for me)
13:51 Eater4 I installed Minetest from the PPA. Why is it trying to continuously run on adress 0.0.0.0 which fails for binding ports?
13:51 Out`Of`Control Eater4:  compile one from source, its not that hard
13:51 Devices the source one will bind to 0.0.0.0 as well
13:52 Devices that's the defautl behaviour
13:52 Eater4 I've done that to, the PPA doesn't seem to find the config
13:52 Volkj Eater4: run minetest --help from terminal to see more runtime parameters
14:00 modo please come and play...
14:01 Volkj already playing stable on another server, thanks for the invite anyways
14:02 sfan5 modo: give it time
14:02 modo okay..
14:02 est31 Eater4, binding address 0.0.0.0 is expected
14:02 est31 it means that you listen everywhere
14:03 est31 so everybody may connect
14:03 est31 because most times your machine has multiple ip addresses
14:03 est31 127.0.0.1 is usually one
14:03 est31 and then there is usually a second one in your local network
14:04 est31 Eater4, are you sure that there is no other minetest server running on that port?
14:04 est31 and if you are, then maybe your OS forbids you to bind the port
14:04 Eater4 Nope, I'm gonna double check my firewall, even though it's disabled
14:05 est31 then you either have to run minetest as root (which I dont recommend its a bad idea), or you have to configure your os
14:05 est31 to not block listening on that port
14:06 Devices which distro are you using Eater4?
14:06 Eater4 Ubuntu
14:06 est31 which ubuntu version
14:06 Devices run 'sudo iptables -L' and see if it allows UDP on 30000
14:07 Devices or does ubuntu not have iptables?
14:07 est31 I do
14:07 est31 and I have ubuntu
14:08 est31 yeah its dependency of the ubuntu-core package
14:08 Out`Of`Control Player*** RemoteClient 11: m_blocks_sent.size()=370, m_blocks_sending.size()=1, m_nearest_unsent_d=0, m_excess_gotblocks=3
14:08 est31 so its installed by default, at least on 16.04 which i have
14:08 Out`Of`Control Anyone could explain what just happen ?
14:08 est31 thats debug information
14:08 est31 and usually its accompanied by more stuff
14:09 est31 what you pasted here is mostly useless
14:09 Out`Of`Control that player got many times most are 0 some with number
14:09 Out`Of`Control est31:  and then once he got 90 gold blocks
14:09 Out`Of`Control out of nothing
14:09 est31 oh.
14:09 est31 interesting...
14:10 Out`Of`Control he was using crossbow too
14:10 est31 Out`Of`Control, PM
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14:38 XeonSquared Geniuses, is there any way to make Minetest run in stereo 3D?
14:38 Volkj alcohol /s
14:39 est31 I think it should already run in stereo 3d
14:39 est31 err
14:39 est31 you mean with VR stuff XeonSquared?
14:40 XeonSquared Well, I was thinking more just stereo 3D on a screen
14:40 XeonSquared I'm the cheapo that uses a phone and a VNC server as 'VR'
14:40 est31 aha
14:40 est31 well yeah it works
14:40 est31 which minetest version do you have
14:40 XeonSquared 0.4.13
14:41 est31 okay no settings tab then
14:41 XeonSquared Do I want to update it?
14:41 Volkj there was something for anaglyphic https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1010
14:41 Eater4 Ah a fixed it
14:41 Eater4 I*
14:41 est31 XeonSquared, see the 3d_mode setting
14:42 Calinou it's the 2000s-style anaglyph
14:42 Calinou not anything to close to NVIDIA's 3D vision
14:42 Calinou and we have no VR support, too
14:42 Eater4 There was a stray Minetestserver running after I built it....? I killed it and it works now
14:43 XeonSquared Do I want to uninstall the old Minetest before I instal the new one?
14:43 XeonSquared I'm guessing yes.
14:43 XeonSquared >.> Windows.
14:44 Calinou XeonSquared: yes, always
14:44 Calinou (especially if you used the installer)
14:44 Calinou the good update procedure is as follows: uninstall -> reinstall
14:44 Calinou this is Windows :)
14:45 XeonSquared huh
14:45 XeonSquared side-by-side 3D mode
14:45 XeonSquared nice
14:45 XeonSquared >:D
14:45 XeonSquared now I just need to get some lenses
14:46 XeonSquared and turn down some settings, damn apparently being able to run maxed with one display isn't the same as two.
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14:50 Calinou XeonSquared: two viewports are basically twice as expensive as one
14:51 est31 are they
14:51 est31 you have half of the resolution
14:51 est31 and you can re-use at least the vertex shader
14:51 est31 can't you
14:52 est31 (maybe i am wrong)
14:52 Calinou I'm sure there's room for optimization :p
14:57 XeonSquared I'm going to need something more powerful than a 750Ti for the next set of games that come out, I think
14:57 XeonSquared here's what gets me about minetest: No matter how hilariously underpowered the machine, it manages to run at ~25FPS
14:58 XeonSquared and yet no matter the overpoweredness of the box it never seems to get to a solid 60FPS
14:58 Volkj my pentium4 is dissenting
14:59 XeonSquared Like I've run this on a Pentium D, a really bad Atom...
14:59 XeonSquared I tried a PowerPC G4 but that got all of 5FPS because it was doing software rendering
15:00 Calinou XeonSquared: my next PC wil have a GTX 1080
15:00 Calinou XeonSquared: performance on Windows is low, on Minetest
15:00 Calinou on Linux it's much better
15:00 XeonSquared I normally run Linux
15:00 Volkj given that when i played on atom i got less than 20 fps with drawdistance = 20
15:00 XeonSquared but even with a 750Ti on max settings some views will give me 40FPS
15:02 Calinou XeonSquared: what view range do you use?
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15:03 XeonSquared is the drawtime in ms?
15:03 Calinou yes
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15:09 swift110 wow
15:09 swift110 whats wrong with the 750 ti?
15:09 Volkj that i don't have it
15:10 XeonSquared because the powermac gets a drawtime of >1500
15:10 XeonSquared more like 1700
15:10 XeonSquared It was turned up pretty high in that instance
15:10 XeonSquared I didn't really have any issue with it
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15:12 XeonSquared uh
15:12 XeonSquared righto
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15:16 sfan5 ah yes
15:16 sfan5 !deop ShadowBot
15:28 Calinou swift110: it is not that powerful
15:28 Calinou in 3 years it'll be unusable for AAA games :P
15:28 Calinou it is 20% less powerful than a GTX 570 already
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16:11 Calinou wow, this is great: https://github.com/junegunn/fzf
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17:43 Calinou https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2016/06/22/mo​zilla-awards-385000-to-open-source-projects​-as-part-of-moss-mission-partners-program/
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17:53 Glorfindel Calinou: do you support users of your one line update script?
17:53 Calinou Glorfindel: yes
17:53 Calinou rate: 0.05 Minetestbucks a second
17:53 Calinou :)
17:53 Glorfindel Lol
17:54 swift110 hey all
17:54 Calinou I don't use a Debian-based distro anymore so I don't know if it works
17:54 Calinou but I have a Xubuntu 14.04 VM that I use for testing stuff
17:54 Calinou so I can test it there
17:54 Glorfindel I've not been able to update to 14 using it
17:54 Calinou delete your ~/minetest folder
17:54 Calinou (note the lack of the .)
17:54 Calinou then run the script again
17:54 Glorfindel Ahhh, ok
17:55 Glorfindel Thanks :)
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17:55 Calinou note: if you chose a portable build, this will erase all your user data!
17:55 Calinou (worlds, minetest.conf…)
17:56 Glorfindel Na this was system wide
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17:57 Glorfindel How much do I owe you? :p
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17:57 swift110 hmm
17:58 Glorfindel Hi swift110
18:00 swift110 how are you Glorfindel
18:00 Glorfindel Doing good :)
18:00 Glorfindel You?
18:07 Fixer Calinou: using arch?
18:07 Calinou Antergos
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18:19 swift110 Glorfindel, I am fantastic
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20:05 fullmetaljacket afternoon guys
20:06 fullmetaljacket anyone around and able to help with a question about minetest on linux ?
20:06 asl97 fullmetaljacket: just ask the question
20:07 asl97 if someone is around, know the answer and want to answer, they will answer.
20:07 fullmetaljacket ok..if i play minetest on Arch linux... all is good, clear screen etc.. but as soon as I play on Ubuntu or anything....i get the fps etc on top showing...2 lines of numbers going crazy etc... is there anyway of turning it off on ubuntu ..so it's like it is on Arch
20:08 asl97 i am gonna take a guess and say what you saw is the debug menu,  press f5 to toggle it
20:09 fullmetaljacket ok, i'll give that a shot...i tried hitting every key..but i'll try right now again..thanks..
20:12 fullmetaljacket well god damn...look at that...i couldn't find answer anywhere... on mine i have to hit Alt F5.... very much appreciated...Thank You
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20:24 swift110 another satisfied user
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20:31 mmmm #amhi
20:32 mmmm whois
20:34 swift110 lol
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21:03 KaadmY !server pixture
21:03 MinetestBot KaadmY: Pixture game server | pixture.quelcom.xyz | Clients: 5/10, 1/10 | Version: 0.4.14 / pixture | Ping: 18ms
21:03 KaadmY 5 players? nice
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22:09 nm0i !server megaf
22:09 MinetestBot nm0i: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/5, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms
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22:29 atomhell Question: Is there such a mod called "computer", because I cannot find it.
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22:46 Volkj atomhell: seems to be https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3830
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23:20 domtron hi all y'all. :)
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23:45 nm0i hi mortal
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