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IRC log for #minetest, 2016-06-08

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Time Nick Message
00:00 Fixer redblade: intlib is just for translations
00:12 redblade i know
00:13 redblade tthere are a lot of spanish speakers on my server it seems
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02:10 thePalindrome Hey y'all, got a quick question about the licensing requirements for publishing a mod
02:10 thePalindrome Drivitives are allowed, but can they have restrictions?
02:11 thePalindrome I know that wouldn't fly, but what about else?
02:12 thePalindrome Calinou: What about 'sv_cheats 1'
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02:18 VanessaE thePalindrome: depends on the license you want to use.
02:19 VanessaE you can publish a mod any way you like, but if you used someone else's code as the basis, you basically have to use the same license they did (if it's not WTFPL, Unlicense, CC0, or similar)
02:19 VanessaE getting it into Mod Releases on the forum generally requires a nicely permissive license like cc-by-sa or GPL or so.
02:20 VanessaE as for additional restrictions, it depends on what those restrictions are.
02:20 VanessaE (and whether your chosen license allows for additional licensing terms)
02:21 thePalindrome In this case, we're looking to prevent duplicates from existing, while still allowing derivatives
02:27 iwB Hi guys! good morning :P
02:28 thePalindrome I think you forgot /time 6:30
02:30 thePalindrome Eh, I'm sure we'll come up with something :P
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03:09 naf hi
03:09 naf is it frowned upon to make a bot that interacts with minetest in game?
03:10 naf not anything abusive, but my aim is to make one that learns to survive by itself in my own local server
03:10 naf by way of training via a neural network
03:11 thePalindrome If it's on a local server, only you could take offense to it
03:11 thePalindrome Otherwise, I'd talk to the server admin, see if they'd be ok
03:13 naf yeah, i mean, i say that because often times bots will kill gameplay for many users
03:13 naf so i wouldn't use it anywhere without permission, or even share the code to it with nefarious users for that matter
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03:13 naf unless of course, there are other people who have made bots for minetest
03:13 naf and some kind of community around it
03:13 naf but
03:13 naf i have only recently started getting into minetest, like in the last few hours
03:14 naf so my research into the communities hasn't started yet
03:15 thePalindrome I haven't heard anything about an ai like that
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04:08 Calinou thePalindrome: I don't think you can prevent duplicates
04:08 Calinou (that'd be proprietary anyway)
04:08 Calinou just allow them, it's part of open source :)
04:08 Calinou and I don't think they hurt anyone in the current state
04:09 Calinou https://github.com/minetest-mods/moreblocks
04:09 Calinou look, 12 people have forked More Blocks, and many of them probably did nothing
04:10 thePalindrome Figured :P
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06:46 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Sky: Fix sunrisebg texture motion (#4199) 3ef71ed https://git.io/votag (2016-06-08T16:43:27+10:00)
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08:51 JamesTait Good morning all!  Happy Wednesday, and happy World Oceans Day! 😃  http://www.worldoceansday.org/
08:52 FirePowi Good Morning Miiiinetest !!
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14:50 srifqi How to get callback when player changes/modifies its inventory?
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14:53 srifqi How to get callback when player changes/modifies its inventory?
14:54 srifqi All I know is a callback when a node's inventory modified.
14:56 srifqi When I was trying to join #minetest-mods, I kicked (invite only).
14:56 srifqi I get kicked*
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14:57 JBB have your read the dev wiki if there is a article about that
14:57 srifqi Which page?
14:58 srifqi I only can find at minetest.register_node
14:58 srifqi !dev minetest.register_node
14:58 MinetestBot "Registers a new node named "name"." - http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_node
14:58 srifqi When I read Player article,
14:58 srifqi !dev Player
14:58 MinetestBot "These are players in the game." - http://dev.minetest.net/Player
14:59 srifqi I only can find how to get/set inventories.
14:59 srifqi But not when there are any modification in it.
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16:30 swift110 hey all
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16:36 garywhite Hello
16:37 H-H-H hi
16:43 srifqi hi
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17:00 swift110 how are you garywhite and srijay
17:01 garywhite Uhh...good...
17:01 swift110 good
17:01 swift110 how long you been playing minetest
17:02 garywhite Almost a year, I think
17:03 swift110 do you play mc
17:03 Calinou Minceraft!
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17:04 swift110 yes?
17:04 garywhite No. I'm not gonna pay $30 for Minecraft when I can play MT for free & it has pretty much all of the features
17:05 Krock better get a coffee every day for a month for that money
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17:26 swift110 true gary
17:26 swift110 i wouldnt mind having both to compare though
17:26 swift110 lol i have minecraft on my raspberry pi
17:28 Krock was preinstalled here too
17:28 Krock but it's a minimal version
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17:38 Calinou Krock: better buy 8 GB of RAM :p
17:39 Calinou nah it's a bit more than $30
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17:49 CWz i have both minetest and minecraft
17:57 Krock Calinou, for my RPI?
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18:11 Calinou Krock: no, for a PC :p
18:12 Krock Calinou, that's totally useless with a 32-bit system
18:12 Krock There are plans for a new computer but well.. haven't got to look for one
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18:14 Calinou Krock: http://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/JLTWZ8
18:14 Calinou my future build
18:14 Calinou (ignore the graphics card, I will get a non-Founders Edition one, a bit cheaper)
18:14 Krock Calinou, yeah I've already seen screenies of it
18:14 Krock 2000 Euros.. wow.
18:15 Calinou the final price will be around €1,900 I believe, a tad more maybe
18:15 Krock You'll soon need a new one when there are quantum processors available
18:15 Krock :P
18:16 AlphaFritz Hello
18:16 AlphaFritz Where are located the engine's files (of minetest) in the android "edition"?
18:16 Calinou AlphaFritz: user data is in "Minetest" folder in /sdcard/
18:16 Calinou but engine data is in the .apk…
18:17 AlphaFritz Which is the extension of the engine's files? (in the .apk)
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18:19 Calinou you won't find any source code in them
18:20 AlphaFritz Alright, but i asked for the name of the extension of the engine's files in the .apk
18:20 Calinou what do you mean by engine files?
18:22 AlphaFritz Mabye i'm wrong, but i am referring to that type of files that on Windows MT have got the ".dll" extension
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18:23 AlphaFritz Of course they aren't present in the .apk
18:23 Krock .dll are libraries. Also an executable can be a library
18:23 Krock in Minetest the main code in contained in the exe file itself. All other files are just additions
18:25 AlphaFritz Got it, so where is located this "main code" in the .apk?
18:25 Krock no idea. try to open it using 7zip and maybe you'll find something like an executable
18:28 AlphaFritz I've already looked for it, and i didn't spotted any .exe file. But i've found some ".so" files
18:29 Krock you won't find .exe files on Linux or mac either (unless you use wine)
18:29 Krock because it's a M$-only thing
18:30 AlphaFritz Wait does the ".so" flies work like an ".exe"?
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18:31 swift110 ok
18:32 * Krock redirects the question to everyone
18:32 swift110 does any one here also play minecraft? I want to understand the difference better
18:32 * Krock slaps swift110 a bit with a large trout
18:33 vktec "slaps swift 110 _a bit_" lol
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18:33 tpe I used to play Minecraft. Moved away the instant it was bought by my least favourite company.
18:35 AlphaFritz swift110: There's a minecraft IRC channel; you can go there if you need some infomations about that game
18:37 AlphaFritz A ".so" file is a shared library. Can it work as an ".exe"?
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18:39 Krock doubt it
18:45 sfan5 AlphaFritz: in this android-specific case, yes the .so can works like a program
18:45 swift110 AlphaFritz, no need to be rude
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18:46 swift110 oh ok tpe thats cool
18:46 AlphaFritz swift110: I'm not rude; why did you write to don't be rude?
18:46 AlphaFritz sfan5: Thanks
18:46 swift110 AlphaFritz, because you didnt answer my question just referred me somewhere else
18:48 AlphaFritz swift110: Ok
18:49 AlphaFritz swift110: Sorry
18:49 swift110 its ok
18:53 AlphaFritz How can i download the mods of a multiplayer server?
18:53 Krock you can't
18:53 Krock but you can download them indirectly by using the ingame command "/mods" and search them on the forums
18:54 AlphaFritz Ok
18:54 AlphaFritz everybody: Thanks for the help
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19:07 swift110 whok cool
19:07 swift110 how do I install the mods
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19:22 Wuzzy hi swift110
19:23 Wuzzy the answer depends on the operating system you use
19:23 Wuzzy you need to find the Minetest folder... in that one, place the mod directoy into “mods”
19:23 Wuzzy on GNU/Linux the minetest folder is in ~/.minetest
19:24 Wuzzy on Windows the Minetest folder is whereever you installed Minetest
19:24 Wuzzy on Mac OS ... oh shit, I don't know
19:25 swift110 ok thanks
19:25 swift110 i have windows and linux
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20:41 Danek hey guys one question , is there any mod for colored light? or better colored lanterns? i need red light for my city ._.
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20:50 xunto No
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21:24 DI3HARD139 Which should I use for a read/write intensive map? LevelDB or sqlite?
21:24 Fixer eh
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21:26 DI3HARD139 I just spent 3 days trying to config a ram disk for the CTF map come to find out that MT now has the ability to store it in ram....
21:27 DI3HARD139 welp at least I can simplify the script now
21:30 rubenwardy There's not much point using a ram disk, much easier to use a dummy backend
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