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00:52 blert I have not compiled MT in a long time. Tonight '+=' won't compile. If I comment the line I add it compiles fine. I don't know much about C++... Why is '+=' not working?
00:56 kahrl blert: what line exactly are you adding?
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00:58 blert uhg! It is working... something is wrong with my string... if(item.tooltip != "") {
00:58 blert tooltip_text += '\n';
00:58 blert //tooltip_text += item.tooltip;
00:58 blert }
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01:45 blert yay! fixed it! Not much understanding of what I did but that's why it's called 'hacking' LOL
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03:29 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Disallow external linkage for default Cavegen NoiseParams c4e083f https://git.io/vr9Bw (2016-05-27T23:23:58-04:00)
03:29 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Dungeongen: Remove dependency on Mapgen c8fd232 https://git.io/vr9Br (2016-05-27T23:23:58-04:00)
03:29 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Mapgen: Combine dungeon generation code fd0efb2 https://git.io/vr9Bo (2016-05-27T23:23:58-04:00)
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03:31 hmmmm i flooded minetsetbot
03:34 slemonide lol
03:38 MinetestBot [git] red-001 -> minetest/minetest: Add base64 encoding and decoding to the lua api. (#3919) 62d15ac https://git.io/vr9RY (2016-05-27T23:37:28-04:00)
03:39 hmmmm i need to review the colored chat pr now
03:39 hmmmm it's been sitting too long
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04:11 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest: Particles: Add option to remove particles on collision d499ec4 https://git.io/vr904 (2016-05-28T00:08:23-04:00)
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10:21 paramat PR for new version of nether mod https://github.com/PilzAdam/nether/pull/17
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12:49 IhrFussel Is there a regex pattern i can use to find out which players just send a bunch of empty chars so that their message will appear as 2nd line as anothers name?
12:50 IhrFussel I have that problem right now... some spammer log on and sends message that appear as 2nd line by another player..and the contents are BAD things
12:51 IhrFussel I was under the impression that it was fixed some time ago... or does it depend on the client?
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13:15 everamzah !up lumaria.duckdns.org:30009
13:15 MinetestBot everamzah: use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
13:15 everamzah !up lumaria.duckdns.org 30009
13:15 MinetestBot lumaria.duckdns.org:30009 is up (127ms)
13:16 everamzah :O
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14:18 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Bookshelf has 2 openings instead of 4 37347d4 https://git.io/vr95Z (2016-05-28T15:11:43+01:00)
14:18 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Fire: move fire node removal out of ABM. d61803b https://git.io/vr95n (2016-05-28T15:11:31+01:00)
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14:28 JohnWD Seems like Inchra still not working for me hm.
14:30 ElectronLibre JohnWD: The hostname is down it seems
14:31 ElectronLibre The whole domain *inchra.net seems unreachable in fact. You can still use VanessaE's domain name to reach the irc network though.
14:32 JohnWD So IP don't work guess I tried..
14:33 JohnWD Hm, what one of VE's? due I think she has 3
14:38 JohnWD ElectronLibre: What domain of Vanessa's?
14:38 ElectronLibre digitalaudioconcepts.com:6697 (SSL)
14:38 VanessaE you should use daconcepts.com in the future
14:38 VanessaE one of these days, I'm gonna discontinue the longer domain
14:38 JohnWD Ok.
14:39 ElectronLibre Thanks for the warning VanessaE. I'll change the hostname as soon as possible in MFF's configuration files.
14:39 VanessaE as for inchra.net, it's just expired again, is all.  already poked at ShadowNinja about it
14:40 ElectronLibre Indeed. We had the same issues last year at the same period.
14:40 sfan5 why not just register the domain for longer?
14:40 VanessaE sfan5: ask lmartin or ShadowNinja :P
14:41 JohnWD Well I tried this IP "198.27.68.162" a error..
14:42 ElectronLibre Until the domain name is back VanessaE, I hope your server will handle slightly more connections than usual (I'm not really worried).
14:42 VanessaE it should be fine
14:42 VanessaE hell, the minetest servers have seen a major uptick over the past 24 hours, without any issue
14:42 JohnWD Yeah, Inchra #minetest hardly used be
14:44 JohnWD It used be drama, fights, kaos, servers everywhere. But that sure changed.
14:45 JohnWD Hm, is the daconcepts.com active for the IRC VanessaE?
14:45 VanessaE I think so.
14:47 Fixer hi VanessaE
14:48 ElectronLibre JohnWD: I checked with telnet a few minutes ago, it works
14:48 JohnWD Hm.. I'm getting a error huh
14:49 ElectronLibre What kind of error?
14:50 JohnWD Connection
14:50 ElectronLibre Connection refused?
14:50 Krock Connection connected?
14:51 Krock no, that wouldn't be an error  guess
14:51 ElectronLibre I don't think it would be an error either
14:51 kahrl error 0: Success
14:51 ElectronLibre ^ Or it could be one of that kind
14:51 JohnWD It just says Error Connecting (ERROR)
14:52 * JohnWD Wonder can Kiwi IRC Blacklist a IRC Server
14:52 ElectronLibre Can you open a terminal and test with something similar to telnet?
14:53 ElectronLibre If it's just a connection error, you don't need to know the registration commands of the IRC protocol to see if you can reach the machine.
14:53 ElectronLibre (also don't use irc.daconcepts.com just daconcepts.com ; in case you made the mistake)
14:55 JohnWD Could not resolve hostname
14:56 ElectronLibre Could not resolve daconcepts.com ?
14:56 * JohnWD forgot add ".com"
14:56 ElectronLibre Oh
14:56 JohnWD derp
14:57 ElectronLibre That sounds like an important part of a domain name though
14:57 JohnWD yea, was doing like a localhost XD
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14:59 JohnWD Huh.. I tried doing daconcepts.com+6697 Still got could not resolve hostname
14:59 ElectronLibre Did you write "daconcepts.com+6697" in the address bar?
14:59 ElectronLibre At this point it's the only reason I see for you to get such an error..
14:59 JohnWD I tried doing on Mibbit IRC Webchat
15:01 JohnWD Could I been K-Line without knowing it.. Or my ISP blocking it..
15:01 ElectronLibre No, otherwise you would still be able to resolve the hostname
15:01 ElectronLibre Just try without any addition, simply daconcepts.com
15:03 JohnWD O.O
15:04 JohnWD daconcepts.com closing link ircip1.mibbit.com (*** Banned)
15:05 VanessaE use a real IRC client.
15:05 VanessaE I believe mibbit is globally banned on inchra
15:06 Krock use qwebirc
15:07 VanessaE hexchat or bust.
15:07 Krock ouch. I will be bust
15:07 JohnWD I'm on a Xbox one so.. I can't really use a real irc clent unless on the web nowadays
15:07 VanessaE sorry to hear that
15:07 Krock set up a VM and run it there, if possible :P
15:08 Markow mibbit is horrible
15:08 JohnWD :/ Wish had a PC/Laptop but I don't have one..
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15:08 Krock JohnWD, write your wish into the offtopic-topic about wishes
15:08 Krock I'm sure it will be granted
15:09 Markow JohnWD: What browser are you using?
15:09 VanessaE JohnWD: surely there is a proper IRC client for xbox.
15:09 Krock xbox is M$, so it would be something like the crash explorer
15:09 JohnWD That why I used KiwiIRC on Xbox One.. but Yeah Krock will l8r. @Markow MS Edge (Xbox one)
15:09 VanessaE try kiwiirc maybe.
15:09 VanessaE there you go, see? :)
15:09 Markow Ah, ok
15:10 * JohnWD try KiwiIRC again
15:10 VanessaE point it to daconcepts.com (not www) and put the port number in separately.
15:11 JohnWD yeah the port has a fieldbox.
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15:12 JohnWD Still error..
15:13 CWz i think the inchra address is broken
15:13 JohnWD Yeah, Inchra down so there no way I might get on..
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15:14 VanessaE the domain is expired.
15:14 ElectronLibre There is a way, if you use another address
15:14 ElectronLibre But somehow having a webclient makes it very difficult..
15:14 CWz I logged in using my server address and vanessae's address
15:15 JohnWD I get a error on, both dac
15:15 VanessaE well then you suck. :)
15:15 CWz hexchat and other NON webclients are your pals
15:15 ElectronLibre ^ Agreed
15:15 VanessaE hey grog
15:16 JohnWD Well, guess hangout on Freenode till inchra renew
15:16 thefamilygrog66 CWz, I use hexchat all the time for irc, but haven't quite figured out how to get it to pass along my password correctly
15:16 thefamilygrog66 how's it going VanessaE?
15:16 VanessaE it's going
15:16 ElectronLibre thefamilygrog66: NS password? There's an authentication field in the network's settings
15:17 CWz hmm VanessaE has http server. perhaps VanessaE person could host a kiwi installation or something like that
15:17 thefamilygrog66 Yep, ElectronLibre. There is, but I can't seem to get it to do the whole /msg NickServ identify ... thing
15:17 ElectronLibre Oh it sure is able to do it
15:18 ElectronLibre Could you open the configuration window please?
15:18 VanessaE CWz: that's only accessible via the inchra.net domain
15:18 CWz hmm
15:19 Markow I owe many thanks to a SUSE dev who coded a beautiful patch that fixes Nvidia's driver code. The Nvidia GPU is so much better than the integrated Intel GPU. Everything is so much smoother, much faster.
15:19 CWz oh no a .tk domain name
15:19 everamzah thefamilygrog66: http://hexchat.readthedocs.io/en/latest/faq.ht​ml#why-are-channels-joined-before-identifying
15:19 ElectronLibre thefamilygrog66: You should see a list labeled "Authentication method", you can pick either one of SASL and NickServ (/msg nickserv + password)
15:19 everamzah also weechat.org
15:19 thefamilygrog66 CWz, network list window?
15:22 JohnWD But if was look in the source code you can See there is no ani embed or the "STAR WARS CSS3 Animation" wasn't a static image
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15:24 thefamilygrog66 Nice, I set it to NickServ type of login and increased the delay before joining from 5 to 10 seconds, and it connected automatically this time
15:25 thefamilygrog66 thanks everamzah and ElectronLibre
15:25 * JohnWD Wonder can one make NickServ join a channel like ChanServ
15:25 ElectronLibre You're welcome.
15:26 ElectronLibre JohnWD: You can if the channel is configured in NS's file
15:26 ElectronLibre Or maybe with a sajoin, I don't know if services are sensitive to those
15:27 JohnWD Yeah I think I remember right I saw it before join a channel.. I think that was before CS was around
15:30 * JohnWD found a WebIRC Client that works
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19:16 lisac Does anyone here know how to access irc.inchra.net? Domain seems to be down.
19:17 sfan5 <ElectronLibre> The whole domain *inchra.net seems unreachable in fact. You can still use VanessaE's domain name to reach the irc network though.
19:17 sfan5 <ElectronLibre> digitalaudioconcepts.com:6697 (SSL)
19:17 sfan5 <VanessaE> you should use daconcepts.com in the future
19:17 Krock osiris.inchra.net is up
19:18 sfan5 no it's not
19:18 Krock how can I connect then?
19:18 Krock just tested it right now
19:18 Krock however, not with SSL
19:19 sfan5 it's a page which says that the domain expires
19:19 sfan5 that might be 'up'
19:19 sfan5 but not what you want
19:20 kahrl maybe the old IP is still cached in the DNS resolver
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20:10 lisac Thanks, sorry for late response.
20:10 lisac 'Late' :P
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20:30 Fixer "Days after angering many users with its so-called "nasty trick", Microsoft has reversed its crazy decision to infuriate users by upgrading them to Windows 10 automatically. Users were angry that clicking the cross to dismiss the box meant that they had agreed to the upgrade."
20:30 Fixer lol
20:30 Fixer this is crazy
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20:36 Krock stupid windows users also exist
20:40 Fixer https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download​/25476/Windows-7-USB-3-0-Creator-Utility
20:40 Fixer AW YEAAAAAAAAH
20:40 Fixer downloaded
20:40 Krock "The new installation image can then be used to install Windows 7 on these Intel® NUC products."
20:41 Krock install dis stuff so you can use it on the other stuff things
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20:45 Fixer Krock: there was some crap that you can't install win7 because motherboard needed some custom driver for usb and other crap, blabla
20:45 Fixer usual bs
20:45 Fixer anyway you can modify installer iso and included ALL THE DRIVERS, all of them!
20:48 sfan5 <Fixer> this is crazy
20:48 sfan5 no thats just microsoft
20:48 Fixer microsoft pushing malware, wait oh shit
20:50 Krock Fixer, at least the DVD driver should be working :P
20:51 Fixer Krock: recently I've come across cheap notebook without dvd player, this is nuts
20:51 Fixer fucking nuts
20:51 Krock err. That's bs
20:51 Fixer 400 usd notebook
20:52 Krock I guess that's much for you
20:52 Fixer not my crap
20:52 Fixer i would not buy this shit
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21:09 IhrFussel Recently my server started to randomly drop clients...could it be cause of the maximum iterations amount of maximum block sends?
21:09 IhrFussel or*
21:11 Fixer :/
21:11 Fixer Out`Of`Control: i have lots of backups on dvd
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21:12 Fixer IhrFussel: how exactly it happens?
21:12 Out`Of`Control omg i would dump in all into hdd
21:12 Fixer IhrFussel: server goes into coma?
21:12 Fixer Out`Of`Control: very wrong
21:13 Fixer Out`Of`Control: unless you have RAID or other external backups
21:13 IhrFussel Fixer, like every 20-30 minutes it suddenly says 3-4 times in chat "xyz leaves (connection timeout)" at the same time
21:13 sfan5 Fixer: why not backup to HDDs?
21:13 Fixer sfan5: i do actually
21:13 IhrFussel In log i see an invalid peer_id error
21:13 sfan5 why dvds then?
21:14 Out`Of`Control Fixer:  i make 2 clones of important stuff, rest 1 copy is enough
21:14 Fixer sfan5: dvds was written years before
21:14 Fixer were*
21:14 Fixer IhrFussel: hmm, interesting, do you have github account?
21:14 sfan5 i stopped backing up to dvds years ago?
21:14 sfan5 s/?//
21:14 Fixer ?
21:15 Out`Of`Control never catch dvd's
21:15 Fixer dvds are crap too, i guess magnetic tape or hdd is better
21:16 IhrFussel I don't :/ This is the exact error "2016-05-28 22:31:10: ERROR[Server]: Server::ProcessData(): Canceling: No player for peer_id=700 disconnecting peer!"
21:16 Out`Of`Control i know some players ping time out
21:16 Fixer IhrFussel: i will create an issue on github, can you provide more info for me? what os? minetest version? any mods?
21:16 Fixer IhrFussel: anything suspicious?
21:17 IhrFussel Fixer, i only know the disconnected players do NOT timeout...it's like they are still playing just the map won't load anymore
21:18 Fixer IhrFussel: this looks similar to your issue: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/4067
21:18 Fixer IhrFussel: what is os and minetest version?
21:18 Fixer IhrFussel: can you list all your mods?
21:19 IhrFussel Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit AMD and version 0.4.13-dev compiled 2-3 weeks ago
21:19 IhrFussel Custom ones or default too?
21:20 Fixer IhrFussel: custom ones
21:20 Fixer IhrFussel: also, try running /clearobjects
21:20 Fixer IhrFussel: or /clearobjects quick
21:21 behalebabo Do you get a message about deleting objects in the log?
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21:23 behalebabo by default there can only be 49 objects per block before some are deleted, that includes players
21:23 IhrFussel behalebabo, yes you're right... it says in the log "2016-05-28 22:31:10: ERROR[Server]: ServerEnv: Trying to store id=31989 statically but block (-18,0,9) already contains 8 objects. Forcing delete." around the time when peers disconnect
21:24 IhrFussel I reduced it to 8 cause i thought it would make the server faster
21:24 Fixer IhrFussel: nuh, don't reduce it, leave it default, do /clearobjects
21:24 behalebabo Well that's your problem then
21:24 IhrFussel So more objects won't slowdown the server much?
21:25 behalebabo It's worse to have players randomly kicked out than to have a slow server
21:26 IhrFussel Okay and this setting is okay? max_packets_per_iteration = 100
21:27 IhrFussel I read somewhere it should be at least expected players * 2
21:28 sfan5 in general
21:28 sfan5 dont mess with too many internal settings or everything will break
21:28 sfan5 why do you need to change the default value?
21:29 IhrFussel Cause my v server isn't the most expensive out there...i figured i'd need to tweak some things for it to run smoothly
21:29 sfan5 how are the specs?
21:30 IhrFussel model name: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 v2 @ 2.80GHz 2 - 4 GB RAM (varies)
21:31 sfan5 that sounds like more than enough to run minetest servers
21:33 IhrFussel Okay well i think 49 objects per block would be a bit overkill though..i'll try with 30 for now
21:34 IhrFussel I didn't know the game starts dropping players cause of objects... who would guess those are even connected
21:35 IhrFussel Could this also cause framedrops? For clients
21:40 Fixer hdd or dvd is cheapest backup option, however, hdd is one big single point of failure but lasts long, while dvd has short life time but data spread out across many discs
21:40 Fixer flash or ssd is too costly for massive backups
21:40 Fixer hmm, wonder what price of tape
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23:15 * cheapie finishes making a fire alarm system in Minetest
23:16 cheapie I don't mean "a noteblock that goes ding if you push a button", but rather I made a panel that supports trouble detection, walk test... the works.
23:16 cheapie Heck, it's even an addressable system.
23:16 cheapie I also made a mod that adds horn/strobes and pull stations for use with it.
23:17 cheapie (and a little "piezo beeper" connected to the LuaC as well)
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23:48 Fixer fire alarm system?
23:50 * cheapie takes a few screenshots of it
23:52 cheapie It is my testing setup, so that's why the panel isn't built into anything, there's an extra alarm by the panel, and there are signs saying which pull is which, but:
23:52 cheapie Panel: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images​/2016-05-28-185033_1918x1179_scrot.png
23:52 cheapie Inside the building: https://cheapiesystems.com/media/images​/2016-05-28-185046_1918x1179_scrot.png
23:52 cheapie It's also not particularly pretty yet.
23:53 Fixer nice
23:53 cheapie If you can't read the signs on the panel, the lights are "Power", "Alarm", "Silenced", and "Trouble", and the buttons are "Silence", "Reset", "Walk Test", and "Drill".
23:55 cheapie The buttons (as well as the blue stuff behind them) and the lights on the panel are from other mods I've made.
23:55 cheapie (digilines buttons and digimese from "digistuff", and RGB lightstone from "rgblightstone")
23:56 cheapie Inside the panel, there's a Luacontroller, a blinky plant, and one of those "piezo beepers" that I made.

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