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00:00 vktec What's the name of the file you downloaded? Is it tutorial.zip or tutorial1.8.2.zip?
00:00 vktec Or something else?
00:01 swift110 tutorial 1.8.2
00:02 vktec Paste this into your terminal window: cd ~/.minetest; unzip ~/Downloads/tutorial1.8.2.zip
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00:03 kaeza o/
00:03 vktec swift110: You should get a bunch of text scroll past, and then it'll stop. After that, (re)start Minetest and select the world "Tutorial World"
00:03 vktec o/ kaeza
00:04 swift110 it says it cannot find it
00:04 swift110 oh hold on i know what happened
00:04 swift110 ok now what
00:05 swift110 oh ok
00:05 swift110 hooray thanks
00:05 vktec No problem, glad you got it working :)
00:06 swift110 i also have this on windows as well
00:07 Megaf \o kaeza
00:09 vktec swift110: I'm not 100% sure about how you'd do it on Windows, as I'm a Linux user, but basically you need to extract the zip file into the main Minetest folder.
00:10 swift110 I am usually a windows user but I don't know when someone will be on here that can assist so I thought id kill two birds with one stone
00:10 vktec Yeah, sorry I can't help more
00:10 swift110 ok thanks
00:10 swift110 this was great
00:11 vktec :)
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00:25 endev15_ Void7, whenever i try do run my update command, i get:
00:25 swift110 its cool
00:25 swift110 i forgive yuou
00:26 endev15_ Runtime error ... chatcommands.lua:42: attempt to call field 'func' (a nil value)
00:26 Void7 can I see your code?
00:26 swift110 although if the tutorial was built into the game in the first place it would avoid some confusion :)
00:26 endev15_ Go to: http://67.201.166.18:3000/endev15/server_tools
00:26 endev15_ specifically look at misc.lua and functions.lua
00:27 endev15_ code that needs inspection is near the bottom of the files
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00:28 endev15_ note that it's not a static ip, so may change. getting one later today
00:29 Void7 http://67.201.166.18:3000/endev15/se​rver_tools/src/master/misc.lua#L101 should be "func = server_tools.update_node"
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00:34 endev15_ still gives the error
00:37 endev15_ Void7, i tried several things. still gives an error
00:37 Void7 the problem is that 'update_node' is undefined
00:38 Void7 init.lua never loads functions.lua
00:39 endev15_ whoops another error on my part
00:39 endev15_ still gives the error
00:41 endev15_ hmm i got rid of the underscore in the function name, and now i get servertools undefined
00:42 endev15_ tried removing the server_tools. part as well as the _ in update_node so it's now just updatenode.. still an error....
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00:43 Void7 'functions.lua' is never loaded
00:44 endev15_ yeah but i fixed that. didn't push my changes yet tho
00:44 endev15_ just tried putting the code directly under the chat command register. now i get local z undefined on the line that prints to the log
00:46 endev15_ Void7, getting nil values all over now
00:47 Void7 I would probably just put the function inline instead of using server_tools.update_node
00:49 endev15_ just tried the other function in functions.lua. same error. oh well, guess i'll figure it out soon. thanks!
00:51 endev15_ i'll look around in computer and datastorage i guess and figure it out from there
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02:35 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Convert saplings to use node timers e0cb3fc https://git.io/vr6ap (2016-05-25T03:27:08+01:00)
02:35 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest_game: Farming: Convert plants to use node timers 70ef786 https://git.io/vr6ah (2016-05-25T03:26:53+01:00)
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03:48 paramat PR for pilzadam's nether mod https://github.com/PilzAdam/nether/pull/13
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04:23 swift110-phone hey
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06:09 hmmmm ahh, nether mod
06:10 hmmmm one of the things i want to do with shaders is have custom shaders for specific biomes
06:11 hmmmm nether being one of them, it'd have special visual effects like making the screen darker, emphasize light sources more, maybe a stronger background blur, etc.
06:12 hmmmm minecraft does a similar thing except it's much more subtle and just modifies sky color and tints of various nodes
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08:05 Nyarg hi all ) Is minetest same with minetest-c55 ?
08:06 Nyarg Is minetest-c55 only subgame of minetest ?
08:09 Nyarg or fork
08:15 vktec Nyarg: From a quick search, it seems that minetest-c55 could be the old name, though I'm not 100% sure.
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08:16 vktec They appear to be the same thing, either way.
08:17 Nyarg all links from http://minetest.com path to common minetest forum and wiki but ...
08:18 Nyarg I see feature on main page "Dynamic Lighting (light up caves like minecraft)"
08:18 vktec I believe minetest.com is a site _about_ Minetest, hosted by a third party, rather than an official project site.
08:18 Nyarg but dont see it in minetest 4.13
08:19 vktec minetest.com also looks (to me, at least) a bit out of date
08:20 vktec Nyarg: I'm not very familiar with MC, what does "light up caves" mean?
08:23 Nyarg hmmm, my english isn't well for my sad it is meaning something lighting or weighting
08:23 Nyarg in minecraft caves seems more lighted by ambient light
08:24 Nyarg like night eye adaptation
08:24 vktec I'm guessing all it means is that you can put torches/lights that light up other objects, though I could be wrong
08:38 Calinou Minetest-c55 is the "old" name indeed
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16:46 IhrFussel Do you need such a "secure environment key" for ANY os.execute() function or only if the executing function is dangerous like deleting/modifying?
16:47 vktec IhrFussel: I'd be very surprised if you didn't need it for os.execute
16:51 IhrFussel vktec, do you know how to get it? Is it free/easy to implement? I'd like to run a Bash script every time a message was sent
16:52 vktec I don't know what a "secure environment key" is, but (I assume you're writing a mod) you can add the mod to the safe list in your config file or disable security altogether.
16:54 IhrFussel Oh it's just a setting in conf file? Do you happen to know which one i need to add?
16:54 vktec Gimme a mo
16:55 vktec I've set secure.enable_security = false, but that's not ideal.
16:55 vktec There's a different option
16:55 IhrFussel Yeah I'd prefer the "whitelist one mod" one
16:56 vktec secure.trusted_mods is what you need
16:56 IhrFussel So i add in conf "secure.trusted_mods = MODNAME"?
16:56 vktec And I think you need to use request_insecure_environment() in your mod
16:56 vktec IhrFussel: AFAIK
16:56 swift110 hmm
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17:09 garywhite Hello
17:10 garywhite I am trying to find #minetest-Sparky IRC channel does anyone know where that is?
17:14 sfan5 look at me i can't be bothered to wait even 5 minutes for an answer
17:16 IhrFussel vktec, So i use request_insecure_environment() and inside that function i use minetest.register_on_chat_message() ?
17:16 vktec I'm not sure, sorry
17:16 vktec Not done any insecure modding :)
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17:52 Krock !tell garywhite try Inchranet
17:52 MinetestBot Krock: yeah, sure, whatever
17:52 Krock <3 MinetestBot
17:52 MinetestBot <3 Krock
17:52 Void7 <3 MinetestBot
17:52 MinetestBot <3 Void7
17:52 Void7 :D MinetestBot
17:52 Void7 :/
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18:17 ben569 Hello everyone. I am mining between 50 and 400 (roughly) and, while I have found more than 100 diamonds, I have only 4 chromium. Am I doing something wrong?
18:18 ben569 I am talking about technic's chromium, to make things clear.
18:19 sfan5 chromium seems to be very rare in technic
18:19 sfan5 you aren't doing anything wrong
18:21 ben569 How do I tweak that, then ?
18:21 sfan5 not sure
18:22 ben569 There seems to be something in ~/.minetest/mods/technic/technic_worldgen
18:23 ben569 There seems to be something in ~/.minetest/mods/technic/t​echnic_worldgen/oregen.lua
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18:46 ben569 Seems to be useless to modify it, even with obviously overblown values. How is one supposed to do it? Mining drill? Mining laser?
18:47 ben569 At which level ?
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19:25 LNJ2GO Good night / Good morning / Good afternoon / Good evening - Take that what fits best...
19:31 Megaf Good evening for me :)
19:32 Megaf nevermind
19:32 Megaf !server Megaf
19:32 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 3/5, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms
19:32 Megaf almost full :)
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20:08 kat_ Hi, guys, I'm kinda new to minetest. I got some mods that work, and I recently got the "village" mod. I have a neat little village! BUT, every house has at least one "unknown node" block. What should I do about that?
20:10 kat_ Oh sorry for the other day about the npc guys. They're supposed to work in creative, I suppose. I had just wanted them to pop up in my survival world. They do work in creative.
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20:12 xunto kat_: press F5 and look at this "unknow" block. What is wrote next to "pointing_at = " ?
20:12 kat_ ok hang on
20:15 kat_ ok it says  pointing at = doors: door_wood_b_1-
20:20 kat_ I guess they are doors that are the "unknown node" block. One of my houses is on fire!
20:20 kat_ What should I do about the unknown node block, doors?
20:20 thefamilygrog66 kat_: the doors have been renamed, I believe
20:21 kat_ umm so .....?
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20:21 thefamilygrog66 gimme a second
20:21 kat_ ok
20:21 xunto Can you give as a link to the vilage mod?
20:21 kat_ ya hang on
20:22 kat_ https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6953
20:24 thefamilygrog66 I believe the node is now called doors:door_wood_b
20:25 kat_ So, how do I fix that, thefamilygrog66?
20:25 xunto Mod is kinda ancient, you need somebody to modify it or find another mod, i think :/
20:25 kat_ o ha  well, so no help with that one, then?
20:26 xunto Sorry, have other things to deal with)
20:26 kat_ cheers  thanks guys
20:27 xunto Old and looks likde in deep [wip]... forever, heh.
20:28 xunto *looks like
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20:30 thefamilygrog66 kat_, I'm not sure how to edit the individual building files for the villages mod, since they don't seem to be text files (.mts?). So unfortunately, I think you're stuck with the unknown blocks, unless you run a small mod to replace all of the doors:door_wood_b_1 with doors:door_wood_b
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20:32 xunto thefamilygrog66: i think it's minetest schematic(mts)
20:33 thefamilygrog66 that would make sense, xunto. my geany software didn't want to open them
20:39 thefamilygrog66 I guess kat_ is gone. This mod should fix their issue with the unknown blocks generated by the village mod:
20:39 thefamilygrog66 http://pastebin.com/BttJRg3h
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22:27 paramat sofar PR for nether mod https://github.com/PilzAdam/nether/pull/15
22:32 paramat kat_ doors were changed recently, there's auto-swap code but i guess it doesn't work on schematics created by mods
22:35 paramat kat_ try this one instead, much more developed https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages
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22:36 paramat that seems to have code to be compatible with new doors
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22:45 IhrFussel Can someone help? I implemented an offline messages feature for my server and the commands themselves work JUST it kinda always tells me the player wouldn't exist on the server even though the file check should not be nil: http://pastebin.com/Vf70idJa
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22:45 AlyssaVahlberg does anyone know OldCoder?
22:46 KaadmY why.?
22:46 AlyssaVahlberg cuz i need him
22:46 KaadmY you could.. just ask him?
22:47 AlyssaVahlberg well WIZARD SCHOOL IZ BROKENNNN
22:47 AlyssaVahlberg AND HE ISNT ON!
22:49 IhrFussel But the target variable is NOT empty cause when i enter a player who is online it shows the correct message (player is online right now, please use /msg)
22:51 AlyssaVahlberg DUZ ANYONE KNOW OLDCODER?!?!?!? I NEED HIM CUZ WIZARD SCHOOL IZ BROOOOKENNNNN
22:52 KaadmY OldCoder: AlyssaVahlberg is in need of you RIGHT NOW apparently
22:55 paramat ~tell kat_ see http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2016-05-25#i_4619855
22:55 ShadowBot paramat: O.K.
23:00 AlyssaVahlberg where iz OldCoder
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23:03 IhrFussel I solved it...not sure why but the "if target ~= nil then check file end" was the problem
23:08 Fixer OldCoder: Wizard school is broken?
23:08 AlyssaVahlberg YA I CANT GET ON IT SEZ THERE IZ A INTERNAL PROBLEM OR SUMTHIN
23:10 KaadmY uh AlyssaVahlberg is it your problem..?
23:11 H-H-H plz dont use caps it is considered shouting and is rude !
23:11 AlyssaVahlberg YA CUZ OLDCODER IZ MEH FRIEND AND THAT IZ THE ONLY SERVER IM ALLOWED ON CUZ THE OTHERZ I TRIED R ONLY 4 ADULTZ
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23:14 H-H-H another idiot added to ignore
23:16 AlyssaVahlberg :"( im not a idiot
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23:22 AlyssaVahlberg YAY WIZARD SCHOOL IZ FIXED!
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23:22 AlyssaVahlberg peaches007
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23:22 * AlyssaVahlberg slaps AlyssaVahlberg with the power of greyskull
23:23 AlyssaVahlberg ?
23:24 AlyssaVahlberg WIZARD SCHOOL IZ BROKEN AGAIN
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