Time  Nick            Message
00:32 LandersonGrillo anyone there?
00:32 LandersonGrillo hello?
00:34 STHGOM          hi
00:34 LandersonGrillo hi
00:34 LandersonGrillo what mods should i download?
00:35 LandersonGrillo i want to have the most minecraft like experience
00:40 STHGOM          hmm
00:48 STHGOM          nether, bedrock, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=8638
00:51 STHGOM          3d_armor, playeranim
00:58 LandersonGrillo thanks a lot
01:02 KaadmY          playeranim is hacky and really shouldn't be used ;)
01:20 kaeza           o/
01:21 STHGOM          i guess so. and it dosent really matter for SP
03:34 wilkgr          "/home/stefan/mt-build/build/minetest/minetest/src/emerge.cpp:2d4: run: A fatal error occured: std::bad_alloc"
03:35 wilkgr          I'm on windows, using the official builds
03:35 wilkgr          The actual game window is, well, frozen
03:36 wilkgr          "This application has requested the Runtime to terminate it in an unusual way."
03:50 wilkgr          Hi swift110
03:51 swift110-phone  how r u
11:40 Nyarg           hi folks ) is it possible to make fog more nearest to me but distance drawing of world keep far ?
11:45 Nyarg           I am about like a soup )
11:47 Nyarg           more heavy fog
11:51 Nyarg           trought fog I see end of view distance range it's not comfortable to see end of drawings
12:02 bpatlarge       @Nyarg pressing KeyPad - or + diminishes or increases the view range, R switches fog on/off
12:08 Nyarg           I do it but fog moving view range together (
12:10 Calinou         Nyarg: you'll need to edit source code for that, I'm afraid
12:10 Calinou         fog start/end can't be changed in minetest.conf or by mods yet
12:10 Nyarg           sad (
14:22 CWz             I wonder howmany tableteers though that timed out = ban
14:22 CWz             *thought
15:06 Dentych         helo
15:08 CWz             found a minetest fork on steam
15:11 CWz             seems like a lot of negative things in it
15:14 swift110        wow why?>
15:17 LNJ2GO          CWz: link?
15:18 CWz             http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=689451739
15:18 CWz             it's on steam greenlite
15:18 xunto           Funny, heh.
15:21 xunto           And it's absolutely legal, by the way)
15:24 rubenwardy      Lol, that's 4aiman's
15:51 Dentych         Are there any benchmarks on Minetest vs Minecraft? Minetest is written in C++, correct?
15:51 CWz             as far as I know there are no benchmarks
15:51 est31           yes
15:51 est31           minetest is c++
15:51 Dentych         Those are very opposite answers :D
15:51 CWz             nvm
15:51 Dentych         oh, oke
15:51 CWz             oh wait
15:52 est31           and a bit of lua
15:52 CWz             Yay for confusion
15:52 est31           although lua is only server side
15:52 Dentych         :)
15:52 Dentych         Yeah, I saw on the website
15:52 Dentych         I must say, I kinda like what I see. I stumbled upon Minetest yesterday
15:52 xunto           >(06:53:34 PM) est31: although lua is only server side
15:52 xunto           Wrong. What about main menu? :D
15:52 est31           ah yeah
15:53 CWz             also some bash stuff in there no?
15:53 est31           well its only the part minecraft calls "launcher"
15:53 est31           CWz, I dont think the bash stuff gets executed during minetest execution
15:53 est31           maybe for building and for maintenance
15:59 LNJ2GO          http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.get_heat I can't use this function and also didn't found it in the lua_api.txt
16:01 LNJ2GO          was it removed or what?
16:03 est31           yes
16:03 est31           doesnt the page say it
16:03 est31           it should say it
16:03 est31           or be deleted
16:06 CWz             wow they must have rehearsed
16:59 gman_           hi people, is anyone there?
17:22 swift110        im here hmmmm
17:52 halt_           is it possible to set up a system of servers that you can tp through w/o exiting one and joining the other by hand?
17:56 sfan5           halt_: no
17:57 halt_           then how would i go about making a galaxy in a MT server in which each planet has its own gravaty field?
17:58 Megaf           Any experient admin here interested in helping in my server?
18:02 thefamilygrog66 halt_, it's possible to override individual player physics on a server. I would have clearly defined regions in the server, and then change each player's physics depending on their x,z coordinates.
18:03 halt_           how would you do this?
18:05 Megaf           So basically what I need as help is rebuilding griefed areas, replanting trees, giving interact to players after them asking and saying the rules.
18:05 thefamilygrog66 Give me a few minutes - I have to run out for a short bit, but when I come back I'll try to put together a basic mod for that. Someone might have done something similar already, not sure. If you're not going to be on IRC, then just pm your minetest forum ID.
18:05 Megaf           only "fun" stuff
18:06 thefamilygrog66 halt_ ^^^
18:06 halt_           kk
18:22 Out`Of`Control  is there a mod that block cheaters?
18:23 Out`Of`Control  stack of 400 mese blocks
18:25 thefamilygrog66 Out`Of`Control: there are some lines in the minetest.conf.example file:
18:25 thefamilygrog66 #    If enabled, disable cheat prevention in multiplayer.
18:26 thefamilygrog66 #    type: bool
18:26 thefamilygrog66 # disable_anticheat = false
18:26 Out`Of`Control  thefamilygrog66:  thank you
18:27 thefamilygrog66 Not sure if that's what you're looking for, but you could just add the last line, uncommented, with true instead of false, to your minetest.conf file
18:27 thefamilygrog66 yw
18:27 thefamilygrog66 sorry, leave it as false
18:27 thefamilygrog66 just uncommented
18:27 Out`Of`Control  its true lol
18:28 thefamilygrog66 true, false, both sides of the same coin, haha
18:37 sfan5           thefamilygrog66: the default is false anyway
18:37 sfan5           also no that probably doesnt stop what Out`Of`Control is having a problem with
18:37 thefamilygrog66 true enough, sfan5
18:38 Out`Of`Control  how can i slow it down?
18:38 thefamilygrog66 what is the problem, exactly?
18:39 thefamilygrog66 i.e. what do you mean by "cheaters"?
18:39 Out`Of`Control  thefamilygrog66:  player get 400 stack of mese blocks, as long i know only give privs can do that
18:40 Out`Of`Control  99 is limit
18:41 thefamilygrog66 yes, as long as an admin, or someone else who has give privs, doesn't drop them or give them to that player
18:41 thefamilygrog66 have you checked that particular player's privs?
18:43 Out`Of`Control  yes
18:54 Fixer           i wonder if it is possible to make some kind of anticheat mod that controls this
19:02 thefamilygrog66 Fixer & Out`Of`Control: it would be possible to make a mod that looks at a player's inventory and removes any stack of items greater than 99.
19:02 Fixer           not always 99
19:02 Fixer           it could be larger
19:02 Out`Of`Control  thefamilygrog66: sometimes i give myself more than 99
19:03 thefamilygrog66 I do as well -- you could easily add a condition that would only remove stacks greater than 99 if the player doesn't have the give privs.
19:05 Void7           why 99? you can get the maximum stack of any item
19:08 thefamilygrog66 Void7: Out`Of`Control's question was how to prevent an obvious cheat, where a player has a stack of 400 of a particular item, which is impossible unless they have the give priv, or someone with the give priv gave it to them, directly or otherwise
19:08 Void7           yes, I know
19:08 thefamilygrog66 Not sure what your question is then
19:09 Void7           an item can have a maximum stack of 1
19:09 Void7           that cheat prevention would not remove 5 tools
19:09 Void7           that are stacked
19:10 thefamilygrog66 You can't stack tools
19:10 thefamilygrog66 If I type "/giveme default:sword_diamond 5", it will only give me one sword
19:11 Void7           oh
19:12 thefamilygrog66 So I don't believe that would be an issue. Then again, I don't think it's possible to hack a client to cheat in that way (i.e. give privs) anyway. Is it?
19:12 Fixer           i think it is possible
19:12 Fixer           who knows what minetest exploits are available
19:13 thefamilygrog66 Developers might know... :D
19:13 Fixer           one way is to check periodically inventory for suspicious activity?
19:15 thefamilygrog66 Yeah, for sure. As I mentioned, it would be fairly simple to write a mod that checked a player's inventory, say when they log on, and remove any unusually large (>99) stacks and/or ban the player
19:57 Out`Of`Control  thefamilygrog66:  yes, but even that 99 was a cheat
20:03 thefamilygrog66 Out`Of`Control, I'd recommend scouring the server log to see where the player obtained those items. Since privs are assigned server-side, I'm still skeptical about this being a client hack.
20:05 Out`Of`Control  player was on around 5 hours
20:07 Out`Of`Control  thefamilygrog66:  i guess its a mod bug,
20:26 thefamilygrog66 Out`Of`Control, which mod?
21:22 Landerson       what is the best subgame to play?
21:24 sfan5           minetest_game
21:25 sfan5           nah
21:25 sfan5           you should find out yourself
21:25 sfan5           carbone-ng and/or voxelgarden might be worth a try
21:30 halt_           im back
21:30 halt_           17:22:27
21:30 halt_           Landerson
21:30 halt_           what is the best subgame to play?
21:31 halt_           hmmm i like hungrygames / ctf if that counts?
22:09 vktec           Is there a way (possibly using a mod) to have a list of worlds when you first log in to a server, or to have some kind of lobby world that links to others? Preferably, I'd like to have each world use different mods or possibly even subgames. Does something like this already exist, or if not, how hard would it be to create?
22:10 vktec           Perhaps it would be possible to forward people to a different server, running on a separate port...
22:11 Fixer           i have not seen this feature
22:11 Fixer           it is not implemented yet i guess
22:11 vktec           Neither have I, but I'd like it :)
22:11 Fixer           feel free to help code it by submitting a pull request with working code (if you are coder)
22:11 vktec           Any ideas on how I'd go about creating a mod for that?
22:12 Fixer           or add issue on github with feature request of this
22:12 vktec           Fixer: Okay, I'll do that if I figure something out
22:12 Fixer           i'm not a dev, but someone raised similar question recently iirc
22:12 vktec           Do you think it would be possible in a mod, or would it have to be added to the core of the server?
22:13 Fixer           don't know since I'm not a developer
22:13 vktec           Ah, fair enough
22:13 Void7           afaik it isn't possible with mods
22:13 vktec           Void7: Yeah, I thought that might be the case
22:13 Fixer           i've seen this feature in MC on big servers
22:14 vktec           Perhaps a proxy-type program that sits in front of a number of MT servers?
22:14 vktec           I've not had a look at the protocol for communication between server and client, so I don't know if that's possible, but it's an idea
22:15 Fixer           i guess everything is possible, question is how and where to code
22:15 vktec           Yeah
22:15 vktec           That's always the question ;)
22:15 Calinou         https://lut.im/SeLHN5lupA/SrZP6UGAsEJzYJLG.png
22:15 Calinou         new syntax theme in Godot, Gruvbox Dark :)
22:16 Void7           um wrong channel?
22:16 KaadmY          heh
22:17 vktec           Okay, thanks for the clarification guys, I'll have a browse through the server code and see what I come up with.
22:17 Void7           you'll probably need to change client code, though
22:17 Void7           the server can't tell the client to connect here
22:19 vktec           I was thinking perhaps along the lines of a proxy that sends info to/from servers and clients depending on a menu choice or something
22:19 vktec           Maybe hook up a Lua mod to RabbitMQ or similar (not done much Lua, so I don't know what's available)
22:19 vktec           And then have the proxy change the server that is connected to
22:20 vktec           Either way, it should be a fun project :)
22:33 endev15_        What's the best way to get the string of a node once you have it's position?
22:35 endev15_        Also, how  can I check and see if an item string is registered, as well as if it points to a node or an item?
22:36 Void7           1. minetest.get_node(pos).name
22:37 endev15_        why .name at the end?
22:37 endev15_        I've currently got:
22:37 endev15_        local node_pos = minetest.get_node(pos)
22:37 Void7           get_node() returns {name = "<node name>", param1 = <param1>, param2 = <param2>}
22:38 endev15_        local node = minetest.get_node(name)
22:38 endev15_        that's what i had above. I see what your saying tho... logically, what i've got above wouldn't work
22:39 endev15_        now, my second question, is that simple?
22:39 endev15_        * is that a simple thing to do?
22:40 Void7           2. minetest.registered_items[<item name>].type is in ["node", "craftitem", ...]
22:40 endev15_        what about just checking if it's registered? remove .type?
22:40 Void7           yes
22:40 Void7           it'll be nil if the item isn't registered
22:41 endev15_        ok
22:41 Void7           very good reference: http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/
22:41 endev15_        yeah i was looking at that but couldn't find anything on the subject
22:42 endev15_        just to confirm, getting the position of a node on punch is:
22:42 endev15_        minetest.get_node(pos)
22:42 endev15_        it seemed to give me an error
22:43 Void7           on_punch gets a node position and a node def (as defined by minetest.get_node(pos))
22:44 Void7           if it's a node
22:44 endev15_        so i don't need to run get_nod(pos), but I can just use the pos variable?
22:44 Void7           yes
22:45 endev15_        what if i want to print it in the chat?
22:45 Void7           minetest.chat_send_all(text) or minetest.chat_send_player(player, text)
22:45 Megaf           lol, I just typed /spawn here, on IRC
22:45 endev15_        but using the pos variable. cause it gives me an error (i think)
22:45 endev15_        don't i have to convert it to a string first?
22:45 Void7           can I see all your code?
22:46 Void7           in a pastebin?
22:46 endev15_        using:
22:46 endev15_        minetest.pos_to_string(pos))
22:47 endev15_        it's actually just a test node for a /update command to update a node by providing the position and new node string. will put together the code u told me and send a pastebin link
22:51 Void7           untested: http://pastebin.com/LShcQ2tX
22:52 Void7           should workj
22:52 Void7           work *
22:52 endev15_        why core.register
22:52 Void7           oops, should be minetest.register
22:58 endev15_        trying your method
23:03 endev15_        yep. that worked. i'll mess with that and get it doing exactly what i need for my mod
23:08 endev15_        http://pastebin.com/qNpX5yBE
23:08 endev15_        take a look at it if u can
23:09 endev15_        that's with the approach of more detailed error messages
23:10 swift110        ok so how do I install the tutorial mode
23:10 swift110        mode
23:10 swift110        mod
23:10 endev15_        Void7, what will .type be if it's a craftitem and if it's not?
23:10 Void7           .type can be "node", "tool", or "craftitem"
23:10 endev15_        ok
23:11 Void7           you're using registered_items(param), that will fail
23:11 Void7           you should be using registered_items[param]
23:11 endev15_        if you look at my pastebin, you'll see that i'm stuck at only continueing if both if statements are true. guess i should just embed them within each other to avoid creating a function out of each
23:12 endev15_        ok changed that
23:12 Void7           why are you returning true?
23:12 Void7           that will break out of the function
23:12 endev15_        cause i hadn't quite finished it. wait, it will?
23:13 endev15_        right... i'd forgotten about that.... lol
23:18 Void7           swift110: http://wiki.minetest.net/Subgames/Tutorial
23:19 swift110        that doesnt tell me anythng void
23:20 Void7           what os do you use?
23:22 swift110        lubuntu
23:23 endev15_        Void7, check this out please: http://pastebin.com/MNDbXNCm
23:23 endev15_        i think i need to do the pos differently tho so it's a table
23:23 endev15_        haven't yet tested
23:23 Void7           you should use minetest.set_node({x = x, y = y, z = z}, {name = param})
23:24 Void7           swift110: unzip tutorial.zip into ~/.minetest/
23:24 swift110        ok how do  I do that Void7
23:24 endev15_        why name = param?
23:25 endev15_        i assume the {} are to group the variables since they aren't a table
23:25 Void7           no, it's a table
23:25 Void7           a table is defined by {a = a, ...}
23:25 Void7           so {name = param} would define a table with only one key, 'name', set to param
23:26 endev15_        right. i can't just use the table name tho since none have been created. that's why i do it with x y
23:26 endev15_        ...and z
23:26 Void7           yes
23:26 endev15_        but why is there a need for the single key nam set to param? why not just use param?
23:26 Void7           because it requires a table
23:27 endev15_        ok... don't remember that, but ok.
23:28 endev15_        thanks!
23:28 Void7           swift110: can you open a terminal?
23:29 swift110        Void7, how do I unzip to the desired place
23:29 swift110        yes
23:29 Void7           swift110: cd ~/.minetest; unzip /path/to/tutorial.zip
23:30 Void7           or unzip /path/to/tutorial.zip -d ~/.minetest
23:35 swift110        ok
23:37 swift110        nothing is happening
23:38 Void7           run minetest
23:38 Void7           it won't add any new files/directories to ~/.minetest
23:39 swift110        ok minetest is up
23:39 Void7           there should be a new icon below the menu
23:39 Void7           click it
23:40 Void7           hi
23:44 swift110        nope
23:44 swift110        i did what you said in the terminal and nothing happened
23:44 swift110        thats my point there are instructions but steps are skipped
23:44 swift110        swift110@swift110-ThinkPad-T420:~/.minetest$
23:45 Megaf           !server Megaf
23:45 MinetestBot     Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 2/5, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms
23:45 swift110        it was one line
23:51 swift110        you gonna make me paste a few words into a pastebin seriously?
23:51 swift110        if you had given me full directions I wouldn't need to make this complicated
23:52 swift110        thats to Void7
23:53 vktec           Void7 _did_ give you full directions
23:53 swift110        no
23:53 sofar           swift110: you lagged and the bot thought you printed 3 lines in 1 second
23:53 swift110        ok
23:53 vktec           That too :)
23:53 swift110        its not full instructions if i do what im told and nothing happens
23:54 swift110        swift110@swift110-ThinkPad-T420:~/.minetest$
23:54 vktec           They're still full instructions, but they don't work for you for some reason.
23:54 vktec           So what command did you run?
23:54 swift110        tutorial.zip
23:55 vktec           That's a file, not a command
23:55 vktec           You're in a terminal, right?
23:55 swift110        you said in terminal post the command i did that and got what i posted right before vktec responded
23:55 swift110        im in the terminal
23:56 vktec           So where is tutorial.zip?
23:56 vktec           Is it in your downloads foleder?
23:56 vktec           *folder
23:57 swift110        yes
23:58 vktec           Okay
23:59 vktec           Gimme a mo
23:59 swift110        ok