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00:59 Xue1 hi
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01:01 Xue hi
01:09 rubenwardy I now have GNU/Linux installed on my UEFI laptop, and I didn't break Windows 10!
01:12 Xue world #minetest-Xue admin Xue
01:13 Xue irc minetest xue
01:15 Xue Worlds de Xue Agree Netie Minetest 0.4.14 de Server
01:16 Xue amigo de world #minetest-Xue
01:18 * Xue amigo world de server de xue agree netie minetest 0.4.14
01:19 Hirato rubenwardy: congrats, which bootloader did you use? :3
01:19 rubenwardy GRUB-uefi
01:19 Hirato heh
01:20 KaadmY Xue: I think this is an english-only channel
01:20 Hirato I couldn't get grub uefi to boot into anything :<
01:20 KaadmY dunno though
01:20 Hirato so I ended up using systemd-boot
01:20 rubenwardy The entry for Windows is "Windows Boot Manager". I wonder if it is possible to make GRUB show it as "Windoze"
01:20 rubenwardy Installing it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, Hirato.
01:20 Hirato likely just needs a grub.conf edit
01:20 Xue mods agree rules de world https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=12441
01:21 Hirato rubenwardy: probably on most distros, but then I use arch :p
01:21 rubenwardy Xubuntu 16.04
01:22 Xue screenshot agree rules go https://forum.minetest.net​/download/file.php?id=5001
01:22 rubenwardy It was as simple as: 1. Disable Fast Startup in Windows 10  2. Download 64bit 16.04 iso and burn  3. In UEFI menu, disable Fast Boot  4. Restart and load disk, check that it's loading in UEFI mode, and install
01:23 Hirato wasn't for me, becausewell, arch :p
01:23 Hirato you need to run grub-install yourself (that worked), use grub-mkconfig yourself (I guess I messed up here?)
01:23 Hirato and so on
01:23 rubenwardy Heh. Maybe one day I'll feel the need to customise my OS enough
01:23 rubenwardy to use Arch
01:23 * Xue xfce mouse and ubuntu
01:24 Hirato I ended up using th efibootmgr thing to add my linux boot into the BIOs itself
01:24 Hirato and I had a systemd-boot set up to just boot into Windows
01:24 Hirato lol
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01:25 Hirato stupid windows
01:25 Xue home xfce mouse http://www.xfce.org/
01:26 rubenwardy I don't see how people can like windows, I've had so many bad experiences
01:26 Hirato I just keep it around for games
01:26 rubenwardy same
01:26 Hirato particularly ones that don't work well in wine
01:26 Hirato it's a lot better these days though
01:26 Hirato but it has a lot of extra warts too
01:26 Hirato like the forced automatic updates
01:27 Hirato that start at the worst times of the day and make internet browsing worse than dialup
01:28 Xue kart xfce mouse supertuxkart http://forum.freegamedev.net/​viewtopic.php?f=18&amp;t=4923
01:29 Xue main supertuxkart download http://supertuxkart.sourceforge.net/
01:31 * Hirato install KDE on Xue's system
01:31 Xue hirato download supertuxkart
01:32 Hirato 400MB download.... I guess?
01:34 Xue amigo addons kart xfce mouse supertuxkart http://stkaddons.net/karts/xfce-mouse
01:36 Xue stk supertuxkart 0.9 you tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FEwDH7XU9Q
01:36 KaadmY ...
01:37 Xue y stk de supertuxkart 09.1 you tube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKD3aWJDg3M
01:39 Xue stk de supertuxkart donate tracks 2 http://supertuxkart.sourceforge.net/donate.php
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01:46 Xue de minetest server erorr main server de minetest ports not found https://servers.minetest.net/
01:47 Xue Minetest Time Server ports ERROR[CurlFetchThread]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (Timeout was reached) (response code 100)
01:52 Xue server de minetest de capture the flag world win colos 18:00
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01:53 Xue capture the flag home https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=10&amp;t=13157
01:55 Xue world server names vardash creative server shout vardash https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=21&amp;t=13531
01:58 Xue amigo shout me vardash
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02:01 Xue hi colos
02:01 colos hello Xue
02:02 Xue colos irc de minetest
02:03 Xue colos anubis games minetest server vardash creative
02:03 colos yes
02:04 Xue login games resga y colos
02:06 colos amigo de 5 noviembre de updata de minetest 0.4.15
02:07 Xue hoy mayo
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02:08 Xue player join de world server de red cat creative
02:09 Xue sailr irc minetest
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02:11 colos amigo mañana de sab de los player join de minetest server vardash creative de password agree rules
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02:14 colos sailr irc minetest
02:14 KaadmY not two spanish speakers ;)
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02:19 MinetestBot [git] Thomas--S -> minetest/minetest_game: Vessels: Smaller/improved textures, remove duplicated 'inv' textures b9422ed https://git.io/vrgz9 (2016-05-21T03:03:03+01:00)
02:19 MinetestBot [git] red-001 -> minetest/minetest_game: Creative: Reset 'start_i' to 1 when the inventory filter is changed b1e0864 https://git.io/vrgzH (2016-05-21T03:02:10+01:00)
02:19 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Remove unnecessary infotexts for chests and signs 90f24e3 https://git.io/vrgzQ (2016-05-21T03:01:10+01:00)
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02:46 Xue rubenwardy y VanessaE go games minetest de server vardash creative server de shout vardash
02:46 rubenwardy ...no
02:56 DI3HARD139 wait what??
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04:46 lemon hello
04:47 lemon http://neboard.me/media/images/1463798850863.png
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05:10 sofar !mod sedimentology
05:10 MinetestBot sofar: Sedimentology [sedimentology-mt] by sofar - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=11028
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11:32 hisforever I downloaded minetest 4.12 will dreambuilders work?
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12:13 srifqi https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=218199#p218199 , spam?
12:18 Krock srifqi, it WAS spam
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12:18 srifqi was?
12:18 srifqi wow, that's fast
12:20 Fixer everamzah: you here?
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12:40 srifqi Seems like this thread (https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=17&amp;t=11555) no longer work because imgrush.com has down.
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12:47 Krock RIP yet another dead server
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13:16 everamzah Fixer: sometimes
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13:23 awesomess3 if I upgrade from 0.4.13 to 0.4.14 can I use my same World?
13:27 STHGOM yes
13:27 STHGOM if
13:27 STHGOM are you using windows?
13:27 awesomess3 linux
13:27 STHGOM ok, they will work
13:28 STHGOM they work on windows too, but you dont want to delete the old version, as the world files are saved there somtimes
13:29 STHGOM in other words, the world files work fine, as long as you dont delete them in the updating process
13:30 STHGOM sorry if im stating the obvious
13:32 awesomess3 "mushroom spores were removed" !!! nooooo
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13:44 Fixer everamzah: have you seen server stall problems?
13:45 Fixer awesomess3: problem? %)
13:45 awesomess3 Fixer: nah. I'm happy :D
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13:46 everamzah Fixer: not that i'm aware of
13:47 Fixer everamzah: someone said Amhi was having some issues like that (when server goes into coma)
13:48 Fixer awesomess3: mushrooms will spread in shadowed areas
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13:48 everamzah i rarely log onto it, but i do notice lag sometimes.  i assumed it was some mod or the server host.
13:49 everamzah DI3HARD139 might know better
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15:14 Xue hi all
15:14 Xue hoy sab
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15:17 Xue amigo updata de minetest 0.4.15-dev changelog http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.13_.E2.86.92_0.4.14
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15:23 fkeloks hi
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15:24 fkeloks Lua Minetest, it is possible to execute a command in the code? (For example, tell her / say)
15:25 Xue amigo LazyJ y Anubis lua error minetest server
15:26 Xue command minetestserver
15:27 fkeloks ?? Not understood
15:27 red-001 fkeloks: what do you mean?
15:28 Xue minetest server list http://minetest.net/servers
15:29 fkeloks Basically, for example, instead of saying "minetest.chat_send_all" I wish I could use my own commands like "/ sayall". It's possible ?
15:29 red-001 yes
15:29 red-001 minetest.register_chatcommand
15:29 red-001 http://dev.minetest.net/min​etest.register_chatcommand
15:30 fkeloks Yes it but I know how to use these commands directly in the code of the game.
15:31 Xue dev minetest 0.4.14-dev updata
15:32 H-H-H you register your own command and then in game use your command eg /say frind hello
15:33 Xue you own minetest server command or minetest you server not found
15:34 fkeloks Raaaaa ... That I know! I'm not a beast :) I'm talking about the code of the game. For example, I would like to code "minetest.sayall" instead of "minetest.send.all".
15:36 nore fkeloks: you can't do that
15:36 Xue 0 player server minetest command
15:36 fkeloks OK, too bad
15:37 H-H-H im sure you can lol just change the minetest.send.all to minetest.sayall and all references to it in the game/engine
15:38 fkeloks Yes but it is not my purpose either :) Thanks anyway
15:39 Xue minetest you server command world names
15:39 fkeloks What is the lua method to change the time, the weather?
15:40 H-H-H look in the source, sorry i dont know of the top of my head
15:40 fkeloks :)
15:41 fkeloks The dev wiki is frankly not clear, in addition to not even be in my language: D
15:41 H-H-H if you figure out how to do temperature tho lol ide be interested to know
15:42 H-H-H lol the wiki is a lot better than most ive seen lol coders usually hate writting docs
15:42 Xue time out server minetest command
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15:43 awesomess3 fkeloks: /time 5500
15:43 fkeloks I speak of the lua code of the game ... The commands directly into the game I know the ...
15:43 H-H-H thts the ingame command he is looking for the lua code that does that
15:43 fkeloks In my function lua I will not tell him / time 5500 ...
15:45 fkeloks What time is it for you ?
15:46 Xue lua mods minetest error main mods 0.4.14-dev not found
15:46 H-H-H 16:46
15:46 awesomess3 15:46
15:47 Xue 15:51
15:47 fkeloks Where are you from ?
15:47 H-H-H me im in uk
15:48 fkeloks I am french :)
15:48 Xue minetest 0.4.14-dev?
15:51 Krock Xue, what's your problem?
15:51 VanessaE who is it that maintains servers.minetest.net?
15:51 Xue Krock server minetest
15:52 VanessaE (besides, ShadowNinja that is, since he's never around)
15:52 Krock VanessaE, maybe sfan5, not sure.
15:53 Xue world minetest server vardash creative servers
15:53 sfan5 VanessaE: yes, me
15:54 VanessaE sfan5: can you check the server logs for connection attempts from daconcepts.com (or digitalaudioconcepts.com)?  I'm getting connection errors from my server instances
15:54 VanessaE 2016-05-21 01:56:48: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (Couldn't connect to server) (response code 0)
15:55 Krock I doubt you will find anything. error code 0 happens when the connection is broken
15:55 sfan5 198.27.68.162 - - [21/May/2016:15:50:36 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.14-dev-fb31bd3 (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64)" "-"
15:55 Krock nvm
15:56 sfan5 maybe your ipv6 is broken
15:56 sfan5 cuz i didn't find any requests over v6
15:56 VanessaE I'm not using ipv6
15:56 VanessaE however, the server's ip6 is 2607:5300:60:1da2::/64
15:59 Xue minetest server /annunce command error server minetest
15:59 VanessaE Xue: please stop with the gibberish.
16:00 Xue VanessaE stop server minetest
16:00 VanessaE sfan5: I'm getting pretty rusty.  where do I start looking?
16:00 VanessaE ;op
16:00 * VanessaE pokes ChanServ
16:00 sfan5 idk
16:00 CWz ChanServ doesn't do that here
16:00 VanessaE hm, odd.  thought it dod
16:00 * VanessaE shrugs
16:01 sfan5 MinetestBot has !op though
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16:02 VanessaE sfan5: one thing of note: the machine was rebooted a few days ago.  that's when the issue started.
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16:03 sfan5 does curl servers.minetest.net work?
16:03 Xue minetest mods news
16:03 VanessaE it appears to.  http://pastebin.com/6dHU8jJ0
16:03 VanessaE !op
16:03 Xue minetest mods abriglass
16:03 VanessaE G*d damn it
16:03 CWz i think you need to login to it first
16:04 Xue was kicked by VanessaE: SHUT UP
16:04 VanessaE sfan5: it appears to.  http://pastebin.com/6dHU8jJ0
16:04 sfan5 hm
16:04 awesomess3 VanessaE: but the server test minetest mod
16:04 sfan5 then there's no reason why it should work in minetest
16:05 tpe That's the best to-the-point kick message I've seen in a while.
16:09 VanessaE I'll try recompiling the server.
16:11 awesomess3 have you guys tried playing the minetest CTF server? is it fun?
16:13 VanessaE sfan5: any difference?
16:14 VanessaE I don't see them in the public list, but it's not throwing the error in my logs anymore
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16:28 sfan5 VanessaE: seems to be working
16:28 sfan5 2607:5300:60:1da2:: - - [21/May/2016:16:27:52 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0
16:28 sfan5 .4.14-dev-7a828de (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64)" "-
16:32 VanessaE doesn't seem to be echoing the announce to servers.minetest.net
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16:44 IhrFussel The register_on_prejoin() function should have a flag that stores whether a password was provided or not... "Empty passwords are disallowed" is just NOT good... many players don't understand that they need to enter any password on their first login to register an account
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16:46 IhrFussel It should be up to the server owner which message is shown to players that provide no password IMO
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16:48 IhrFussel Or the error should say something like "The server does not allow guest access" or somewhat
17:01 VanessaE ah HAH!  sfan5 now they are showing up, but as their ip6 address of all weird things
17:01 VanessaE [2607:5300:60:1da2::]:300040/50   0/00.4.14-dev, realtest, v6    et al.
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17:04 VanessaE in-client, the same IP shows up as well.  NOT my domain name.
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17:06 VanessaE I seem to be lacking a reverse dns for the ipv6 address.  odd.
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18:19 VanessaE sfan5: I'm getting really REALLY confused.
18:20 sfan5 whats wrong
18:20 VanessaE why are my servers showing up with only an ipv6 address - and an incomplete one at that - in the server list?
18:20 ElectronLibre As far as I can tell VanessaE that IP address up there is correct
18:20 VanessaE [2607:5300:60:1da2::]:30001  et al.
18:20 ElectronLibre ^ That's correct, the brackets just show that it's IPv6
18:20 sfan5 that's a correct ipv6 address
18:20 VanessaE I know what the brackets are for, but the address is wrong.
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18:20 VanessaE it should be ::1 if anything
18:20 sfan5 why
18:21 VanessaE but my point is, why is my domain name not showing up?
18:21 sfan5 <VanessaE> why are my servers showing up with only an ipv6 address
18:21 sfan5 maybe they are not announcing with the domain name?
18:21 VanessaE you mean the server_address line?
18:21 sfan5 yes
18:21 VanessaE when I put that in, my servers are excluded from the server list entirely.
18:22 VanessaE are you performing a [reverse] lookup against the domain or IP?
18:22 ElectronLibre VanessaE: ::1 is 127.0.0.1, it's loopback
18:22 sfan5 no idea
18:22 VanessaE ElectronLibre: I was referring to just the end part of the address, as in 2607:5300:60:1da2::1
18:22 ElectronLibre Unless you mean the end of the address in which case you could be right, I'm not very experienced with IPv6
18:23 ElectronLibre OK you beat me at typing
18:23 VanessaE sfan5: ok.  watch:
18:23 sfan5 VanessaE: there's this check but i have it disabled https://github.com/minetest/master-se​rver/blob/master/server.py#L242-L247
18:23 VanessaE watch your logs for an announce
18:23 VanessaE this is with server_address = daconcepts.com
18:24 sfan5 2607:5300:60:1da2:: - - [21/May/2016:18:24:05 +0000] "POST /announce HTTP/1.1" 202 61 "-" "Minetest/0.4.14-dev-fb31bd3 (Linux/3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64)" "-"
18:24 sfan5 this one?
18:24 VanessaE if that's the latest one, yeah
18:24 sfan5 yes it is
18:25 sfan5 in any case your server is using 2607:5300:60:1da2:: (without an 1!) as ip
18:26 VanessaE I haven't the foggiest idea how to change that
18:26 VanessaE I tried adding bind_address alongside server_address, but as long as the latter is provided at all, my servers are being excluded from the list
18:26 VanessaE (where bind_address was my server's ipv4)
18:26 sfan5 that doesnt seem right
18:27 sfan5 i disabled the check for domain vs server ip
18:27 VanessaE you better re-check :)
18:27 sfan5 if checkAddress and False:
18:28 Calinou camelCase in Python? :s
18:29 VanessaE there, they've all been restarted with  "server_address = daconcepts.com"  in their configs, the way it was before.
18:32 VanessaE and again, they're missing from the server list.
18:32 sfan5 let me set up a second serverlist instance with debugging on
18:34 VanessaE ok.
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18:35 sfan5 VanessaE: serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net:8880
18:36 VanessaE ok.
18:36 VanessaE restarting (one server instance) with that change
18:36 VanessaE 2016-05-21 14:36:06: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500)
18:36 sfan5 wat
18:36 sfan5 no request showed up
18:36 VanessaE wait, ignore that.
18:36 VanessaE there's the real one, 2016-05-21 14:36:37: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net:8880/announce not found (Couldn't connect to server) (response code 0)
18:37 sfan5 damn ipv6
18:37 sfan5 sec
18:37 VanessaE (the other was outdated spew)
18:38 sfan5 try now
18:38 VanessaE trying...
18:38 sfan5 nice so wheres the logging
18:39 VanessaE 2016-05-21 14:38:58: ACTION[Server]: Announcing to servers.minetest.net:8880
18:39 sfan5 ah
18:39 sfan5 Server daconcepts.com:30006 has no ping.
18:39 sfan5 which means that it found that it was not up
18:40 VanessaE when last I checked, ping didn't respect port numbers ;)
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18:41 sfan5 restart minetestserver please
18:41 VanessaE restarting...
18:41 Krock VanessaE, you restarted davisonio but not the minetestserver. try again
18:41 VanessaE (my keepalive script has a 30-second delay)
18:41 VanessaE up.
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18:42 sfan5 ah yes
18:42 sfan5 so it resolves to the ipv6 address 2607:5300:60:1da2::1
18:42 sfan5 it tries that and it's not up
18:42 VanessaE I hate ipv6
18:43 sfan5 (sfan5@kitsune) ~/mtstuff % ./checkmt6.py 2607:5300:60:1da2::1 30006
18:43 sfan5 2607:5300:60:1da2::1 seems to be down
18:43 sfan5 (sfan5@kitsune) ~/mtstuff % ./checkmt6.py 2607:5300:60:1da2:: 30006
18:43 sfan5 2607:5300:60:1da2:: is up (85.8ms)
18:43 sfan5 was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
18:43 VanessaE I don't know what moron invented it, but he should be shot dead.
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18:43 VanessaE lol
18:43 sfan5 ShadowNinja: fix your fucking bot thanks
18:43 sfan5 (sfan5@kitsune) ~/mtstuff % ./checkmt6.py 2607:5300:60:1da2::1 30006
18:43 sfan5 2607:5300:60:1da2::1 seems to be down
18:43 sfan5 (sfan5@kitsune) ~/mtstuff % ./checkmt6.py 2607:5300:60:1da2:: 30006
18:43 sfan5 2607:5300:60:1da2:: is up (85.8ms)
18:43 sfan5 in any case you just need to fix the ipv6 address
18:44 CWz aparent aparantly players can take item from furnace from any distance
18:44 VanessaE I don't even know HOW it got the address it has
18:44 CWz even while dead
18:45 sfan5 ip a d 2607:5300:60:1da2::/64 dev <interface>
18:45 VanessaE iface eth0 inet6 static
18:45 VanessaE address 2607:5300:60:1Da2::
18:45 VanessaE ...
18:45 sfan5 ip a a 2607:5300:60:1da2::1/64 scope global dev <interface>
18:45 VanessaE post-up /sbin/ip -6 addr add 2607:5300:60:1Da2::1/64 dev eth0
18:45 sfan5 might do it
18:46 VanessaE worked when pasted to the console, but somehow that didn't actually work when the machine was restarted.
18:46 VanessaE ipv6 is the biggest clusterfuck to hit the internet since the first ads on websites.
18:46 VanessaE I fucking HATE HATE HATE HATE IT
18:46 VanessaE FEJKHF@$(YTR*($@&!YF$*@)FY@
18:47 sfan5 ipv6 is actually pretty nice
18:47 sfan5 configuration just sucks
18:48 VanessaE ipv6 sucks. :)
18:48 VanessaE bingo
18:49 * CWz puts away his tranquillizer gun
18:49 VanessaE after running that /sbin/ip command and restarting them, all servers are showing up in the list...with their domains.
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19:01 VanessaE sfan5: thanks for the help.  you might want to consider making your end a little less..picky :)
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19:03 sfan5 VanessaE: that's not being picky
19:03 sfan5 if the server is not up on <stuff>:: then it's not up
19:03 sfan5 the ip is just plain wrong
19:04 VanessaE well I've corrected that, but why wasn't it just using the domain I pointed to?
19:04 sfan5 it was
19:04 sfan5 your domain was point to ::1
19:04 VanessaE yes.
19:05 VanessaE and it points to 198.27.68.162
19:05 sfan5 it only tests the preferred ip
19:05 sfan5 which is ipv6
19:05 VanessaE I see.
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20:12 Milan1 hi there, there was a mod which provides granting interact by typing a specific word (not a command)..someone know its name?
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20:30 Milan1 got it
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20:39 Megaf Hi people
20:39 Megaf Hi cats
20:39 Megaf Hi dogs
20:39 Megaf Hi cute bunnies
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20:51 ElectronLibre Megaf: I'm none of those, but I do not blame you for forgetting me.
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20:52 Megaf Oh, I'm sorry!
20:52 Megaf Hi electrons!
20:52 Megaf ElectronLibre, ^
20:52 ElectronLibre Hello Megaf
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21:36 Milan1 can i hide a command from /help?
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21:57 Markow Can feature requests be made on this channel?
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22:00 Calinou Markow: if you add $0.50 to the tipjar, sure :D
22:00 Calinou [_] <- tipjar
22:00 Markow "clink"
22:00 Markow lol
22:01 Markow I just compiled and played Minetest 0.4.14-dev-88acda0 (Linux)
22:02 Markow Would  be great if the Right-Mouse key could be changeable
22:02 Markow Changeable to "control", to place blocks faster
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22:03 Markow I think it's a fixed 'key'
22:03 Markow Unless it could be done in the config file?
22:04 Markow Also, is there a creative server run by the Minetest Devs?
22:06 rubenwardy The core devs are just a random group of people which are knowledgeable and given elevated contribution rights
22:06 rubenwardy ie: the right to vote on whether to accept a change request
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22:06 rubenwardy there are no official servers, as such
22:07 Markow rubenwardy: Thanks
22:07 FreeFull Markow: Being able to use a keyboard key instead of right-clicking would be super handy for people using touchpads
22:08 Calinou also playing Minetest using only keyboard
22:08 Calinou what if you travel back in time to 1993… most people didn't have a mouse :D
22:08 Calinou but no PC would be able to run Minetest :( and Windows versions wouldn't be compatible
22:08 Markow FreeFull / Calinou : True
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22:09 Markow I think someone once mentioned VanessaE has a good Creative server?
22:10 FreeFull Calinou: Eh, I think finding a 3 button mouse (3 buttons, no scrollwheel) wouldn't have been that hard in 1993
22:11 FreeFull Calinou: And if you had an Amiga computer you probably had a mouse too
22:12 Markow I'm using a two-button mouse on my desktop here ;)
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22:14 Markow I have to build a newer desktop. For now, this will do.
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22:23 rubenwardy Calinou, FreeFull, Markow: It would be nice to be able to bind actions easily to mouse or keyboard. So you could make dig and place keys, or right click to open the inventory
22:28 FreeFull Agreed
22:31 Markow rubenwardy: Yes, agreed
22:32 Markow I'm pissed at Nvidia. Their latest driver (from Nov 2015) doesn't compile with my kernel 4.6. What else is new? So I must stick with my integrated GPU. ;)
22:35 Calinou Markow: pretty sure there's a newer driver…?
22:35 Calinou you could always use Nouveau, it can perform better than Intel in some cases
22:36 Markow Calinou: There is no newer driver on the Nvidia website, for sure. Hmm...I want to avoid Nouveau, lol.
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22:38 Calinou why?
22:39 Calinou you could ask in #nouveau if your card is a good bet for it
22:41 Markow Usually the proprietary Nvidia driver works better than Nouveau, as much as I hate to say that for Open Source in this case
22:41 Calinou it's not true in all cases
22:41 Calinou Nouveau offers good performance on some GPUs now
22:41 Calinou OpenGL support is ~4.1 on modern GPUs, will soon be 4.3
22:41 Markow Nvidia's is due for an update anyway, it's been 1/2 year now
22:43 Markow My glxinfo show: OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 11.2.2
22:43 Markow It's not a modern GPU
22:45 Markow Device: Mesa DRI Intel(R) G33
22:45 Markow That's my integrated though
22:45 Markow Not my Nvidia, my mistake
22:47 Markow Specs for my NV GPU say: OpenGL 3.1 Optimization and Support
22:49 Markow Unfortunately, that's the highest version this NV GPU will support
22:55 Calinou pretty sure your GPU can do OpenGL 3.3
22:55 Calinou my old laptop's 9600M GT did OpenGL 3.3 perfectly
22:55 Calinou it's a 2008 GPU
23:06 Markow This NV is a Geforce 210 MSI fanless version, released October 2009
23:10 Fixer minetest performance sucks on any videocard :trollface:
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23:12 DoyleChris Good evening
23:12 DoyleChris how do i make a v6 mapgen that is flat
23:12 DoyleChris i added the flat tag in the minetest.conf but it didnt work
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23:13 Fixer hmm, why not just flat mapgen? it will have all v6 biomes I guess
23:13 DoyleChris that is what im wondering
23:14 DoyleChris ill try flat
23:14 Fixer 0.4.14 has flat mapgen :}
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23:22 DoyleChris it spawned me in a snow biome
23:23 DoyleChris 2016-05-21 19:23:07: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: Lua: OOM error from mod 'technic_worldgen' in callback environment_OnGenerated(): not enough memory 2016-05-21 19:23:07: ERROR[Main]: Current Lua memory usage: 55 MB
23:24 Fixer too much mods?
23:24 Fixer you are low on memory?
23:27 DoyleChris trying to locate water not finding anything
23:31 kaeza o/
23:31 DoyleChris is there water on the flat map
23:33 kaeza DoyleChris, only if there are caves
23:33 DoyleChris are caves on by default in flat mapgen
23:34 DoyleChris well i just noclipped underground and flat has the cliffs like v7
23:35 DoyleChris how do i remove them and go back to caves
23:36 Fixer kaeza: \o
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23:39 Fixer Calinou: can you also post that file on forum? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9635
23:40 DoyleChris do you know what im talking about underground
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23:50 Calinou Fixer: I no longer put anything on my Dropbox, need to log in to it, download everything and just put stuff as forum attachment
23:50 Calinou or as Git repository
23:50 Calinou https://up1.ca/#pi1ESbJzS8g-L-vQY8CFDg
23:50 Fixer Calinou: i will repost it myself on forum
23:50 Calinou here's a direct upload
23:51 Fixer it is good to have files on forum too
23:51 Calinou Git repo would work
23:57 Fixer Calinou: no, github can be closed, just attach those files on forum pages
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23:59 Calinou Fixer: my repositories would sit in the minetest-mods organization anyway

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