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00:15 Tux1_ hello
00:15 Tux1_ hello?
00:15 Tux1_ is anyone here?
00:16 Tux1_ this is werid
00:16 Tux1_ lol
00:16 sofar hi
00:16 Tux1_ oh hi
00:16 sofar it's not weird, it's IRC
00:16 Tux1_ that is acctually cool
00:16 Tux1_ i never tried one
00:16 sofar your life will never be the same
00:16 Tux1_ ikr
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01:54 kaeza IRC is love, IRC is bliss, IRC is perfection
01:54 kaeza except when it isn't
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02:07 MinetestBot [git] lonniganseaweed -> minetest/minetest: README: Update Fedora dependencies list 5d9b6aa https://git.io/vrTdt (2016-05-11T03:02:45+01:00)
02:08 KaadmY kaeza: so helpful ;_;
02:10 kaeza yeah :]
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02:45 MinetestBot [git] kwolekr -> minetest/minetest: Mapgen V6: Synchronize spflags with defaultsettings ebe638c https://git.io/vrTbC (2016-05-10T22:44:18-04:00)
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07:19 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Add platform name to --version information 58b54cf https://git.io/vrkt9 (2016-05-11T17:15:41+10:00)
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12:59 mransom good morning everyone
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13:23 MinetestBot [git] Zeno- -> minetest/minetest: Fix typo in the info printed by --version 8bb9e46 https://git.io/vrkh0 (2016-05-11T23:20:20+10:00)
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14:23 jin_xi trying new tnt, just put down a huge cluster of loosely connected tnts. some exploded, now the tnt nodes stay, spewing particles but not doing anything else. now going on for 5+ minutes.
14:25 jin_xi oh ok now its doing something. it just took that long? cool
14:27 cimbakahn I am seeing this in the debug.txt file ----> http://hastebin.com/umupisaciw.pas
14:27 cimbakahn Does this mean that everywhere in that file i am supposed to replace every instance of vel with velocity & every instance of acc with acceleration?
14:29 cimbakahn I saw some awesome tnt in a subgame.  Trying to remember which one it was.
14:33 cimbakahn I believe the awesome tnt was in this subgame ----> https://github.com/cornernote/minetest-megapack
14:35 cimbakahn Atleast i think that is a subgame.  Maybe i'm wrong, but that is where i got it.
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17:09 Glorfindel MinetestBot has some mod searching capabilities right?
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17:12 est31 !mod technic
17:12 MinetestBot est31: Technic [technic] by RealBadAngel - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2538
17:12 est31 Glorfindel, ^
17:12 Glorfindel ok
17:12 Glorfindel so if I know what it's called I can find the url, but not if I don't know the name?
17:20 Krock Glorfindel, you acn try some keywords on http://krock-works.16mb.com/MTstuff/modSearch.php and see if you get the mod
17:20 Krock MTB only outputs the top entry
17:20 Glorfindel ok, thanks. I was just looking through the forums for someone who had that website in their sig lol
17:21 Krock Evergreen and me have it in the sig
17:22 Krock add it too, so you can't forget it :P
17:22 Glorfindel lol
17:22 courtney whoever is named zero trying to log onto olympus server please msg me! so i can help you
17:22 Krock saw him in the skyblock server but no idea if it's the same person
17:23 courtney might be our creator is not on today and our rules/interact thingy when signing on is malfunctioning (cant scroll down to see keyphrase)
17:23 courtney i feel so bad i can help him! lol
17:24 Glorfindel hmm
17:24 Glorfindel I thought for sure there was a mod for finding different ores and stuff, like some kind of compass
17:25 Krock courtney, he's in "Cash's World" now
17:25 Krock np
17:26 Krock ^ belongs to another wnidow
17:26 Glorfindel lol I was wondering...
17:30 Markow Time for me to compile and test latest MT dev version, and to finally join a server for once. ;)
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17:46 Glorfindel I'm having a problem with minetest locking up my computer
17:46 Krock locking?
17:47 Glorfindel hdd starts grinding away and everything freezes
17:47 Glorfindel can't get to a tty most of the time
17:47 Krock time for a bas sector check on the HDD?
17:47 Krock *bad
17:48 Glorfindel lubuntu checks the disk every time I have to force reboot and nothing comes up then... I don't know if it checks for bad sectors but I assume they would show?
17:48 Glorfindel I'll check again quick
17:48 Krock quick won't do it
17:48 Krock it would require a deep check
17:49 Glorfindel quick = right now
17:49 Glorfindel you have any recommendations for linux?
17:50 Krock windows
17:50 Krock (obviously a troll comment ^)
17:50 Glorfindel lol
17:50 Glorfindel actually windows has my favorite disk checking program :P
17:56 Glorfindel but, assuming the disk is fine, as it has passed all other checks, what could be causing this? I have local map save enabled, am using lubuntu 14.04 32bit
17:58 Krock "hdd starts grinding away and everything freezes" - "assuming the disk is fine"
17:58 Krock lolwat?
18:00 Glorfindel ...if there was a problem with the disk I would have found it by now
18:00 Glorfindel +this only started happening after I began using dev builds
18:01 Krock true.. if it's a problem with at one it's found fast. One of my older HDDs died and I saw a gray-ish smoke coming up from the controller board
18:02 Krock problem found
18:02 Glorfindel o.O indeed
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18:16 mransom hey gang, I've been trying to build branch stable-0.4 and it keeps failing silently, but with all the same cmake/make parameters it builds master just fine
18:18 mransom there's some slight variation, but in general it looks like this: http://dpaste.com/33KFM8C
18:24 mransom I tried apt-get installing minetestserver but the repos have an old version, 0.4.9
18:25 Krock compile yourself
18:25 Krock but what do you mean with "failing silently"?
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18:29 asl97 isn't that because server wasn't built by default anymore?
18:29 asl97 mransom: i think you need -DBUILD_SERVER=1 in your cmake
18:33 mransom I'll try that, asl97
18:35 mransom I just meant it doesn't give an error, it just stops, Kray
18:35 mransom Krock:
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18:35 Krock oh
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18:40 asl97 mransom: did that work?
18:40 mransom that works!
18:40 mransom you guys rock!
18:41 asl97 iirc, there wasn't much people against that change
18:43 Krock *many people
18:53 asl97 iirc, the reasoning for removal was something like: most people don't use minetestserver and there is still minetest --server
19:02 mransom thanks for the help, asl97
19:03 mransom I'd like to update the wiki, but I'm not sure how to get access
19:04 mransom I don't see a signup form anywhere
19:04 asl97 for a wiki account, you just have to ask for it here
19:04 asl97 i forgot from who though.....
19:05 asl97 i think it was @Calinou ^
19:06 Calinou mransom: PM me your email and desired username
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19:09 way hi there
19:09 way i have a modding question. is this the right playce to ask or is it minetest-dev?
19:09 Calinou ask here
19:10 asl97 minetest-dev is mostly for engine question and problems
19:10 way ok.
19:11 way i am to create a small mod that contains symbols. ones that could be put on nodes like a sign. There would be like 30 of them.
19:11 way the right way would be to create 30 different nodes, or is tehre a method or trick to get away with less?
19:11 way like, only 1 node and changing its texture somehow...
19:11 Fixer way, is not there is already mod with symbols?
19:12 way is there?
19:12 Fixer yes
19:12 Fixer way, https://github.com/Amaz1/letters
19:12 way excellent, thank you. i'll check it out.
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19:20 way i see. it creates a separate node for each symbol shape. i guess this is the way to go then.
19:21 way thank you for the pointer.
19:21 takitus way: What about using the texture-concatenating approach used with ores?
19:22 asl97 takitus: you still have to create one node for each letter for each type of node
19:23 takitus asl97: ah, OK
19:24 cimbakahn Has anyone seen Rubenwardy around?
19:25 asl97 cimbakahn: minetest bot probably has
19:25 cimbakahn HAHAHA!
19:25 asl97 !seen rubenwardy
19:25 MinetestBot asl97: rubenwardy was last seen at 2016-05-11 16:13:00 UTC on #minetest
19:25 asl97 tada :D
19:25 cimbakahn HAHA!
19:25 cimbakahn The bot know everything, ya?
19:25 cimbakahn knows
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19:39 way yeah, as asl97 said, texture-concatenation is fine, but i still need to create one node per symbol. anyways, that is ok for now.
19:40 asl97 way: there is that object way which signlib use
19:40 asl97 but most people says that is just a horrible way of doing it
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19:42 cimbakahn I'll be back later, need to step out for a couple of hours.
19:45 way i1m just parsing it. it creates a texture on the fly, creates an object and assigns the texture
19:45 way and uses an object similar to itemframe
19:48 way it certainly is interesting. i am undecided about the horrible :)
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19:49 stormchaser3000 hmmm
19:49 stormchaser3000 anyone had their server crash due to this error before?
19:49 stormchaser3000 2016-05-11 14:30:13: ERROR[Main]: ServerError: Lua: Invalid position (expected table got nil).
19:49 asl97 iirc, it is call horrible since the texture doesn't have gc, meaning for every concatenation, a new texture is created and it stays in memory until minetest is close
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19:52 asl97 way: #3806
19:52 asl97 minetestbot
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19:54 asl97 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3806 :|
19:54 swift110 hello all
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19:55 way ah, ok
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21:38 Glorfindel just happened again
21:38 Glorfindel minetest locks up and if I don't kill it quick I have to reboot computer
21:38 sofar if minetest locks up your system, you've got bigger problems than minetest :)
21:39 Glorfindel ikr
21:39 Glorfindel thing is, it will work fine for an hour
21:39 cimbakahn Can anything be done about this ----> http://hastebin.com/patoxasuji.pl  or is it just going to stay like this until some future update?
21:40 sofar cimbakahn: dreambuilder needs to be updated and/or fixed
21:41 sofar cimbakahn: file an issue in dreambuilder ;)
21:41 cimbakahn Ok.
21:42 cimbakahn I also have items that is not showing up in my inventory.
21:44 asl97 Glorfindel: you got to find out why otherwise how is anyone gonna know how to fix it?
21:45 asl97 maybe minetest use too much ram and your system doesn't have enough ram and it lock up
21:45 Glorfindel hmm
21:45 Glorfindel unless I'm misunderstanding the htop graph system isn't ever using more than half of it?
21:46 sofar your system locking up entirely is the problem. you have serious hardware issues, most likely
21:46 sofar or a very bad gfx driver/hardware or combo
21:47 sofar what OS/gfx card?
21:47 Glorfindel lubuntu/intel integrated or something... not sure how to get the exact id in linux
21:47 asl97 a game can overload the gpu and cause a freeze?
21:48 est31 I have freezes almost daily
21:48 est31 often I meet the 4 GB ram limits of my device
21:48 est31 I have no swap, so my desktop freezes
21:48 est31 its hard to get out of this mode again if you cant close any applications
21:49 est31 so I have to sysrq each time
21:49 Glorfindel hmm
21:49 asl97 Glorfindel: lspci should tell you the gpu, if it is one of those intel gpu which is intergrated with the cpu, use lscpu and google it
21:50 Glorfindel I have 1GB of ram... so it can't be only using half if you are hitting 4 on yours
21:50 Glorfindel asl97: ok, thanks
21:50 asl97 afaik, minetest use more that 1GB on default setting
21:52 Glorfindel ok, looks like this is it: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
21:57 Glorfindel I have changed settings quite a bit though, local map saving, changed others to get better fps
21:59 sofar Glorfindel: grep Processor /proc/cpuinfo ?
22:00 sofar uhm
22:00 sofar grep model /proc/cpuinfo
22:01 Glorfindel Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
22:01 Glorfindel with HT
22:02 asl97 that is a board that contain a Integrated GMA 900 and one of the following Pentium 4, Celeron, Celeron D
22:02 asl97 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o​f_Intel_chipsets#9xx_chipsets_and_3.2F4_Series_chipsets
22:03 sofar wow how old is that system?
22:03 asl97 September 2004
22:03 Glorfindel lets just say it came with xp on it :)
22:04 sofar geesh man, I'm sorry, I would have mailed my last computer that I recycled to you
22:04 Glorfindel lol
22:04 Glorfindel this is just a free one I got and am using until I get a new one
22:05 sofar if that's what you have, I'd go dumpster diving
22:05 asl97 No support for external graphics cards or 800 MT/s bus.
22:05 asl97 ouch^
22:06 sofar Glorfindel: I'm terribly spoiled myself - I work at Intel and generally replace my computers only every 4-5 years or so, but that's just me - I get that other people don't have the luxury
22:07 Glorfindel oh nice
22:08 asl97 it at least support opengl 2.1
22:08 Glorfindel yeah I'm planning on getting a razor blade sometime, but right now I'm saving up for a car so that's kind of on hold ;)
22:09 Glorfindel and don't even ask about my laptop lol, 700mhz cpu XD
22:09 asl97 Glorfindel: razor blade? hopefully you don't mean those use for shaving...
22:10 Glorfindel razor blade as in the gaming laptop company :P
22:10 asl97 that is razer-blade with a E
22:11 Glorfindel oops
22:11 asl97 lol
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