Time  Nick            Message
00:46 rubenwardy      Interesting minetesthosting.com
07:55 Derr            I keep getting large permanent shadows, anyone know why?
07:55 greeter         that's an issue in minetest. there's a mod that can fix it, let me get the name of it
07:56 greeter         mapfix is the name of the mod. it updates the map so that if shadows are cast when there shouldn't be any, you can issue a command to fix it
07:58 Derr            thanks greeter
07:58 greeter         you're welcome
07:58 greeter         i noticed the issue myself when i would cut down large numbers of trees only to find it still dark, even during daylight
08:01 greeter         is there any way to disable sound output from a running instance of minetest?
08:01 Derr            lower the sound volume?
08:02 greeter         well i want to turn sound off so i can listen to music as i play minetest. hmm. i wonder if a mixing program can do that for me
08:03 Derr            I mean like [esc] [Sound Volume]
08:03 greeter         hmm i used pulse audio volume control to mute minetest's output stream. that did the trick :-) thanks
08:08 Derr            this is more of an annoyance than a problem but you seem to know about these things. every time I create a world I get desert biome in the center of the map
08:08 Derr            I would prefer another biome
08:10 greeter         hmm. have you tried using different seeds? or changing the map generator? (v6 is best unless you load mods that edit the environment at map creation time)
08:16 Derr            yes, unfortunately nothing works
08:19 Derr            https://i.sli.mg/AJjxPy.png :(
08:20 Derr            looks like clouds are casting shadows
08:21 Calinou         to what rubenwardy said: about http://minetesthosting.com/, sounds like the usual "kid with a Celeron" deal :)
08:21 Calinou         I've seen worse, but they give little to no information to what's their actual VPS/dedicated server provider
08:27 greeter         that's a lot of shadows :-S
08:30 est31           Calinou, whois the ip of minetesthosting.com shows up http://www.joesdatacenter.com
08:31 Calinou         as long as it's not lingscars… :)
08:31 est31           "kid with a Celeron" deal ?
08:32 Calinou         est31: it's a recurring meme in Minecraft server hosting ;)
08:33 est31           ok
08:33 jomat           ssh port moved to 2002, but password authentication left active m)
08:33 est31           jomat, what makes you so sure it is active?
08:33 est31           well I think its just awesome that people offer minetest hosting .. means minetest is popular
08:34 jomat           est31: debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password
08:35 est31           jomat, the "right" way to turn off password based auth is to edit etc shadow and place !'s everywhere
08:35 Calinou         password authentification is acceptable if your passwords are strong, and use fail2ban
08:35 est31           that way all the bad guys try to log in via passwords and waste their time
08:35 sfan5           ...and fill up your logs
08:36 Calinou         logrotate is a thing :) or suppress logs
08:36 est31           Calinou, acceptable on your server, but not on servers where I am root :)
08:36 sfan5           compressing logs does not solve the problem
08:36 Calinou         est31: I'm quite sure Minetest is the most played native open source game :P
08:37 Calinou         also, yes, changing SSH port reduces bot attacks by ~80%
08:37 jomat           Well, now we're talking about sandboxhosting.com? Not too much difference to minetest ;-)
08:37 est31           Calinou, good you said "native" because I doubt we are more popular than 2048 :)
08:37 jomat           m)
08:38 est31           Calinou, well it might be that some android based forks of minetest that are open source as well are more popular
08:40 Calinou         there are native ports of 2048 too :P
08:40 Calinou         jomat: m) just looks like a smiley to me…
08:40 Calinou         happy person with glasses or something
08:41 Calinou         it's supposed to use a facepalm, but there's Emoji for that now :)
08:41 Calinou         to be*
08:41 jomat           Calinou: It was meant as a "smiling facepalm" :-)
08:47 est31           interesting, they even offer a mumble server
15:44 naltamur        Hell
15:44 naltamur        hello
15:47 naltamur        is there anyone online?
15:48 H-H-H           no im ofline
15:49 naltamur        H-H-H hey
15:49 H-H-H           yep its what horses eat lol
15:49 naltamur        lol I am a web dev
15:49 naltamur        where is boss of minetest?
15:50 H-H-H           the creator is lurking in the forums somewhere i should imagine
15:50 H-H-H           i cant see them logged in here why whats up
15:56 Calinou         naltamur: celeron55 is not really involved with Minetest development anymore (since December 2012)
15:57 naltamur        Calinou: hey
15:57 Calinou         if you have a really good reason to reach him, join #minetest-dev and ask, but beware, don't bother him for nothing :p
15:58 naltamur        okay
16:06 DI3HARD139      So I see that JP is leaving/left.
16:08 * DI3HARD139    is excited for this: 13:20:19 * Amaz* has been having great fun with the coloured chat pull!
16:28 CWz             coloured chat is overrated, the nubs will go crazy with it
16:29 CWz             it'll become the new "gamemode 1"
16:29 CWz             but it could be useful
16:41 Krock           It will be spammy
16:42 nore            CWz: players can't type colored chat without a mod
16:43 naltamur        :) nice work!
16:44 nore            However, you could make a mod that allows player with some priv to type colored chat
16:46 sofar           /grant nore obnoxious
16:56 nore            sofar: :'(
16:56 nore            :D
18:25 thefamilygrog66 Hey, quick question: what do the different shades of grey mean in the public server list (i.e. white and grey)?
18:25 Calinou         thefamilygrog66: gray means, incompatible protocol version
18:25 Calinou         (supposedly…)
18:25 Calinou         IMO it should just go away, it has no practical consequences, you can still join the server in 99% of cases
18:25 thefamilygrog66 Calinou: oh, incompatible with the particular client I'm using
18:27 naltamur        hello
18:27 thefamilygrog66 that kinda makes sense, I guess (though if they're both 0.4.13, but different versions of it, then it leads to confusion)
18:49 MinetestBot     02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Update credits tab 1395446f4 https://git.io/vrvMC (152016-05-09T20:41:27+02:00)
18:53 MinetestBot     02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest: Add [resize texture modifier Resizes the texture to the given dimensions. 1353e9587 https://git.io/vrvDq (152016-05-09T20:48:42+02:00)
19:05 paramat         release is very close, please help by testing recent changes, most recent first
19:20 Fritigern       My biggest issue is that Valleys is not the default MG :-)
19:35 Calinou         Fritigern: is it fast?
19:37 Fritigern       IMO it's at least as fast as the world generation in MC, but I did not measure anything. But Valleys is beautiful and generates fast enough for me to fly around without having to wait at the edge of a world hole and hope it will generate soon
19:38 paramat         mgvalleys is medium-fast
19:38 paramat         when i timed it
19:41 * Fritigern     is one of those end users that still compares against MC, even though he knows full well that MT != MC
19:41 H-H-H           valleys mapgen is actually rather nice
21:38 cimbakahn       What is the mod called that sucks up items on the ground to your inventory immediately from a longer distance?
22:25 DonBatman       cimbakahn are you talkin about item drop?