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00:03 FreeFull Someone should write a Rust version
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00:35 DI3HARD139 What does "ErrorC2371'int8_t': redefinition; different basic typesminetest<directory here>32" Mean?
00:35 DI3HARD139 Only file version change was the irrlicht which I changed to 1.8.3
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05:56 * cheapie peeks in
05:57 cheapie Quiet today...
05:57 cheapie Well, at any rate, any thoughts/concerns/suggestions regarding this? https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=14464
05:57 cimbakahn What's up with this ----> https://imgur.com/PEok1vA    Why can't i make changes to this?  I have it in singleplayer.
05:58 cimbakahn Is there a workaround?
05:58 cheapie cimbakahn: That looks like a mod blocking you from doing stuff.
05:58 sofar villages mod. read the wiki :)
05:58 cimbakahn Ok.
06:11 cimbakahn I don't see anything about changing things in this world.  The only thing i saw was "experimental!"
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07:08 Preuk wow, too bad i missed paramat
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08:43 paramat hi Preuk
08:48 Preuk hi :)
08:48 Preuk that is pretty much what i intend to archeive
08:50 Preuk I will take a look at these sheet options; if i can randomize thickness, this would be a great first step
08:52 Preuk column_height_min column_height_max \o/
08:56 paramat by setting column heights to extreme values you can end up filling a whole mapchunk solid
08:59 paramat or with normal use: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=3&amp;t=14345
08:59 Preuk I just need something simple, to present strata with distinct embedded stuff depending on layer (scatter/blob + wherein should do the trick)
09:00 Preuk if layers can have some random height it's great
09:00 Preuk can't wait to add my iridium K-T layer ;)
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12:50 cimbakahn What's up with this ----> https://imgur.com/PEok1vA    Why can't i make changes to this?  I have it in singleplayer.  Is there a workaround?
12:54 Preuk cimbakahn: have a look at mod documentation, grant yourself the rights needed to override greifing protection
12:54 Fixer there are workarounds ofc
12:55 cimbakahn I already did /grant singleplayer all
12:56 cimbakahn https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=6953
12:58 Preuk https://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&am​p;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp​;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=0ahUKEwiC-t64op​3MAhUFVhoKHRSTDfcQFggqMAA&amp;url=https%3A%​2F%2Fforum.minetest.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff​%3D3%26t%3D13877&amp;usg=AFQjCNFIGJ3mJDxge8​ldNTeVquzL0zHdPA&amp;bvm=bv.119745492,d.d2s
12:59 Preuk https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages
12:59 Preuk that's the right repo, the one from thread is wrong/outdated
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13:02 Preuk change config.lua line "ENABLE_PROTECTION"
13:02 Preuk -- if set to true, players cannot modify spawned villages without buying the house from the village first
13:02 cimbakahn Well.  I don't want to destroy anything.  I want to improve things.  For example:  I think the street would look better in obsidian brick.
13:02 Preuk mg_villages.ENABLE_PROTECTION = true;
13:03 Preuk going legit, you should buy a plot in this village to be able to modify common area (like roads) if i understand mod source
13:03 cimbakahn Is this a different one from the one i have ----> https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages
13:04 Preuk well, the message "... allow any modification" is not found in original village mod but in villages_mg
13:05 Preuk github > "search this repository", enjoy
13:05 cimbakahn I think i'll get rid of the one i have and install this one ----> https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages    BRB
13:06 Preuk you look tyo already have this one (villages_mg)
13:06 Preuk the original one, the mod you linked the forum thread for, did not feature any protection
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13:16 cimbakahn Ok.  I took out the mod i had and replaced it with the one you gave me here ----> https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages
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13:17 cimbakahn I typed /grant singleplayer all    Still can't modify the street.  How can i change things here?
13:18 cimbakahn I will try above.
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13:42 cimbakahn ENABLE_PROTECTION is already set to true.  What now?
13:43 cimbakahn Ok.  I will change it to false.
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13:46 cimbakahn I set it to false, and now i can make the street look better!  Thanks guys!
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13:57 cimbakahn Do i really need all these depandencies:
13:57 cimbakahn handle_schematics / default / doors? / farming? / wool? / stairs? / cottages? / moretrees? / trees? / forest? / dryplants? / cavestuff? / snow? / moresnow / darkage? / ethereal? / deco? / metals? / grounds? / moreblocks? / bell? / mg?
13:58 cimbakahn I am tired of snow in the game, so can i do without the snow ones?
14:09 rubenwardy cimbakahn, the dependencies followed by ? are optional
14:09 cimbakahn Ok.  Thank you!
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14:12 sfan5 hey it actually worked without problems
14:13 sfan5 <3 MinetestBot
14:13 MinetestBot <3 sfan5
14:18 Krock \o/ MTB
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14:23 cimbakahn MinetestBot: Hello!  How are you?
14:25 Krock MinetestBot!
14:25 MinetestBot Krock!
14:27 LNJ2GO MinetestBot: !b64d TUlORVRFU1Q=
14:27 LNJ2GO MinetestBot !b64d TUlORVRFU1Q=
14:28 Krock !b64d TUlORVRFU1Q=
14:28 MinetestBot MINETEST
14:28 LNJ2GO ahh...
14:29 Preuk !b64d MTIzNDU2Nzg5MAo=
14:29 MinetestBot 1234567890\n
14:30 Preuk !b64d PDMgTWluZXRlc3RCb3QK
14:30 MinetestBot <3 MinetestBot\n
14:30 Preuk without LF, will it mumble to himself forever? :)
14:35 MinetestBot Preuk, of course not
14:35 MinetestBot also, *herself
14:38 Krock she's MinetestBot
14:40 Preuk sorry ;)
14:42 Krock !b64d U2hhZG93Qm90OiBoZWxw
14:42 MinetestBot ShadowBot: help
14:42 Preuk !b64d XCFiNjRlIGhlbGxvIE1pbmV0ZXN0Qm90IAo=
14:42 MinetestBot \\!b64e hello MinetestBot \n
14:42 Preuk well, messed up with my escape sequences i guees
14:42 Krock feeding the bot with commands this way isn't possible
14:43 Preuk when there are 2 in a room, this can be infinite fun
14:43 Krock lol
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14:50 MinetestBot JBB: Failed to handle data
14:51 JBB !b64d aXJjOi8vd2ViZXIuZnJlZW5vZGUubmV0L21pbmV0ZXN0
14:51 MinetestBot irc://weber.freenode.net/minetest
14:53 Preuk !q MinetestBot
14:54 LNJ2GO !wik Blocks
14:54 MinetestBot "Blocks are the building blocks in Minetest." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Blocks
14:54 Preuk nice highlighting
14:54 Preuk who crafted her?
14:56 LNJ2GO sfan5 (I think)
14:56 LNJ2GO !help
14:56 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
14:58 JBB !wik Blocks/de
14:58 MinetestBot "Blöcke (engl." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Blocks%2Fde
14:58 JBB cool
14:58 LNJ2GO !rainbow
14:58 MinetestBot 4R7a8i3nb6ow What?
14:58 JBB !wik Nyancat
14:58 MinetestBot "Nyan Cats are extremely rare blocks." - http://wiki.minetest.net/Nyancat
14:59 LNJ2GO !dev minetest.register_node
14:59 MinetestBot "Registers a new node named "name"." - http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_node
14:59 JBB !wik Nyancat_rainbow
14:59 MinetestBot No such page.
14:59 JBB !dev on_generated
14:59 MinetestBot "Called after generating a piece of world; minp/maxp encompass a 5×5×5 volume of map blocks — that is, 80×80×80 nodes." - http://dev.minetest.net/on_generated
15:02 LNJ2GO !rev TSETENIM
15:02 MinetestBot MINETEST
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15:06 Krock error: No such function "shutdown" in class "PilzAdam"
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15:09 Preuk !c 2+2
15:09 MinetestBot 4
15:10 Preuk !wa 2e5 peanuts
15:13 Preuk wolfram module not enabled :(
15:13 Krock News 1699 posts, Builds 1999 posts - looks a bit similar
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16:51 cimbakahn Can anyone explain what Realtest is?  To me it just looks like they just added some item and retexturized others.
16:51 cimbakahn items
16:52 Krock it's more realistic
16:52 DI3HARD139 Its a realistic survival server if I recall. The mods are tweaked to make them harder to craft so you really have to work to get them
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17:05 cimbakahn Thank you Krock and DI3HARD139!
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17:05 Krock I didn't help at all <.<
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17:05 cimbakahn I am now looking at https://github.com/minetest-mods/plantlife_modpack
17:06 cimbakahn It looks to me like dryplants, and ferns and cavestuff is included in this modpack.
17:06 Krock yes they are
17:07 cimbakahn So i am guessing i can use this one and take out those 3 seperate ones...  Am i correct?
17:08 sofar configure: error: *** POSIX caps headers not found
17:08 sofar gheghe
17:08 sofar wheps, wrong windows!
17:08 cimbakahn What i am saying is i already have dryplants, and ferns and cavestuff.  So i guess i could just take them out and replace it with this modpack.
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17:10 sfan5 !server players:most
17:10 MinetestBot sfan5: Xanadu | 98.166.90.48 | Clients: 29/40, 20/31 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 94ms
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17:19 DI3HARD139 cimbakahm: Essentially yes as its a modpack
17:31 cimbakahn DI3HARD139: Thank you!
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18:13 Calinou rubenwardy, maybe we can up the CTF server to 25 slots
18:13 Calinou there seems to be 1 reserved slot, hence 25...
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18:13 Calinou (I've never seen 20 players, only 19 at most)
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18:14 Calinou or if we don't do that, up it to 21 players so that there can be actual 10vs10
18:14 Calinou and not 10vs9 :)
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18:17 rubenwardy Sure, Calinou
18:18 rubenwardy I'm wary of making the match too crowded though
18:19 Calinou yeah, I'll bump to 21 slots then, when I get to restarting the server
18:20 rubenwardy I usually use ctf_queue_restart to give players a cance
18:20 rubenwardy *chance
18:20 rubenwardy that chat command means that the server will shutdown when the current match ends
18:20 Calinou ah
18:20 rubenwardy You should make an account and /grant all - but never play with that account
18:21 Calinou ok
18:24 rubenwardy bbl
18:29 Krock I wonder if there will be somewhen different landscapes in CTF
18:30 Krock I've only seen that jungle until now
18:30 Fixer hmmm
18:30 Fixer just teleport players to different position?
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18:30 Calinou Krock, maybe we can change it monthly or so
18:31 Fixer just move spawn a little bit
18:31 Fixer or even randomly
18:31 Krock Calinou, or templates to use when the map is destroyed, so a new one can be loaded
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19:05 catchin i'm having a bit of trouble seeing or doing anything in a world
19:05 catchin i installed minetest via homebrew
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19:06 catchin and for some i get a dark blue world shaded, and can only move arounf for no longer than 2 seconds
19:06 catchin also my mouse pointer gets trapped in the minetest window
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19:06 catchin any idea how to fix?
19:07 cimbakahn In the mg_villages mod, i am always getting snow.  Is there a way of turning off snow in the mod.
19:12 cimbakahn Is this where you control the snow ----> https://imgur.com/pzbAiSg
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19:13 aix hi
19:13 aix !server sfan
19:13 MinetestBot aix: No results
19:13 aix !server sfan5
19:13 sfan5 i dont have one
19:13 aix uh
19:13 cimbakahn Can i set it for NO snow?
19:14 aix !server Calinou
19:14 MinetestBot aix: No results
19:14 aix I remember an op had one
19:14 aix whi was it
19:14 aix !server PilzAdam
19:14 MinetestBot aix: No results
19:14 aix Oh it was kaiza
19:15 aix !server kaiza
19:15 MinetestBot aix: No results
19:20 Fixer cimbakahn, try looking into minetest.conf, mapgen options
19:20 Fixer cimbakahn, or biome ones
19:20 cimbakahn Is this where you control the snow ----> https://imgur.com/pzbAiSg
19:21 Fixer cimbakahn, thats for snow in villages,yes
19:21 cimbakahn Maybe i should change that 10 to a 0
19:22 cimbakahn ?
19:22 Fixer next option can help too i guess
19:22 Fixer or set to 0
19:22 cimbakahn I will change the 10 to a o      I can always change it back if things go screwy.
19:23 cimbakahn 0
19:24 aix Which servers do you play on?
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19:27 catchin this is all i see btw http://i.imgur.com/MSvqg3t.png
19:27 cimbakahn Still lots of snow......
19:28 catchin no snow for me
19:28 catchin just bluuuuue
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19:35 Calinou aix, I host the CTF server now
19:35 ElectronLibre catchin, you're in deep water. I can see lines of nodes but you're under sea level so try to teleport above 0 of altitude.
19:36 Calinou I used to have Calinou [Europe/Paris] but it's no longer up, it barely had any traffic
19:36 aix i remember something with a huge map
19:36 Calinou (I have the resources to host 3-4 Minetest servers now though :P)
19:37 aix me too
19:38 catchin ok thanks ElectronLibre will try that
19:41 catchin ElectronLibre: i was able to teleport 5,5,5, but now it's just black
19:41 catchin do i have my world setup wrong?
19:41 ElectronLibre Now you're in concrete nodes
19:41 ElectronLibre Try turning fly and noclip on, if you can.
19:42 ElectronLibre You can also try /spawn but it might send you back in the ocean.
19:43 aix !server Krock
19:43 MinetestBot aix: No results
19:43 aix !server krock
19:43 MinetestBot ...
19:43 Krock none
19:43 aix it care about case?
19:43 Krock !server apple
19:43 MinetestBot Krock: AppleTree - Survival PvE & Build | pts.epixel-game.net | Clients: 10/50, 7/14 | Version: 1.0.0-alpha19-dev / epixel | Ping: 58ms
19:43 Krock no it doesn't
19:49 cimbakahn I only see 2 files that may have controls for snow:  config.lua & mapgen.lua
19:50 catchin hmmm no privileges to change fly and noclip on
19:56 ElectronLibre Then using /spawn is your only way out.
20:06 catchin keeps saying there is not /spawn command =/
20:11 cimbakahn How do i turn off snow in the mg_villages mod?  Is it in one of these 2 files ----> https://imgur.com/a/5t0lp
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20:19 catchin weird how if i log onto a remote server i don't have those problems
20:19 sofar your own server, or someone else who runs the server?
20:19 catchin remote = someone else
20:20 sofar you have different permissions on every server
20:20 sofar the servers are not linked
20:20 catchin i feel like my local server is set up wrong
20:21 sofar you probably need to grant yourself extra permissions
20:23 engineer-pearl Hey, so something weird has happened. I used to have the ability to use v5, v6, v7 and singlenode map generators. Now I have v5, v6, v7, flat, fractural, and valeys. what happened?
20:23 catchin k sofar
20:23 catchin how do i do that?
20:23 sfan5 uh
20:23 sfan5 you updated
20:23 sfan5 singlenode is still there but not in the menu
20:23 engineer-pearl I'd say so but...
20:24 engineer-pearl I manually upgraded.
20:24 engineer-pearl Is automatic updates included but not stated?
20:24 sfan5 automatic updates?
20:24 sfan5 minetest doesn't have that
20:24 cimbakahn How do i turn off snow in the mg_villages mod?  Is it in one of these 2 files ----> https://imgur.com/a/5t0lp
20:28 Calinou engineer-pearl, what OS do you use?
20:28 Preuk is "sheet" ore tye suported by v6 magen?
20:28 Fixer cimbakahn, did you try that options? You can ask Sokomine here
20:29 Preuk i could get my ore in test v7 mas, but not v6
20:29 Preuk maps
20:29 cimbakahn I set the number 10 to 0 and it did not work.  I don't know what to try next.
20:30 cimbakahn Sokomine: Are you here?
20:31 cimbakahn Everytime i load mg_villages i get snow.  How do i turn it off in the villages?
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20:32 engineer-pearl sorry, there was a minor problem and I had to refresh. But I'm using ubuntu.
20:32 cimbakahn You should try Linuxmint Xfce 17.3 .
20:33 engineer-pearl I used a link to this page https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestd​evs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds/+sou​rcepub/6235943/+listing-archive-extra, though that was when I actually downloaded it (last month it looks like)
20:33 Calinou cimbakahn, Ubuntu is probably better than Linux Mint, which is known to be insecure (security updates arrive late)
20:33 Calinou also software is a bit more recent on it, since it's released earlier. and there are non-LTS versions
20:33 Calinou this is why I favour Ubuntu over the Linux Mint "train"
20:35 engineer-pearl I've heard mint is good for people who are really good with computers. I, however, am still getting there.
20:35 cimbakahn I just remembered when i was at Cup of Linux 8 months ago.  Five of us where using Linuxmint.  Four was using cinnamon, and had several problems.  I was the only one using Xfce and i had no problems at all.
20:36 * sofar on archlinux+xfce4
20:36 sofar and I build Linux distros for a job
20:36 engineer-pearl but I thought I had the singlenode after the download... is it likely that I am just wrong, or did that kind of link set me up with automatic updates
20:37 cimbakahn Sokomine: Are you here?
20:38 Calinou I'll soon upgrade VPS to Ubuntu 16.04 \o/
20:38 Calinou it'll be released tomorrow
20:38 Preuk how does clust_size affect sheet ore_type?
20:38 Calinou Java 8 and PHP 7 :)
20:38 Preuk (well i learned to never trust distro for php, java and other dev related stuff)
20:40 cimbakahn Linuxmint is partially based on trusty versions so should be more stable.
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20:41 cimbakahn I took my Linuxmint Xfce, and installed Lxde.  Logged out then logged back in using the new Lxde session i just created.  Then i got rid of almost all the Xfce stuff with exception of a couple of files.
20:42 cimbakahn I still kept the minty goodness though.
20:42 cimbakahn It is a real fast OS now.
20:43 Calinou Linux Mint isn't any more stable than Ubuntu is
20:43 Markow cimbakahn: LXDE is great, I'm using it now with openSUSE
20:43 Calinou both should be as fast, too
20:44 Markow I want to give LXQT a try
20:45 cimbakahn Certain people in the Linux community was all excited about Lxqt, thinking it would replace Lxde.  What a joke!  Lxqt uses more resources than Lxde.
20:45 Markow cimbakahn: Has more eye candy, that's why
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20:48 cimbakahn On distowatch there is 54 distros with Lxde, and 7 with Lxqt, so i don't think Lxde is going anywhere soon.  Lxde is probably going to be around for atleast 25 years.
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20:50 cimbakahn Some people think that you won't have alot of variety (when it comes to programs) with Lxde.  This is not true.  I can get and use almost everything that any Linux user uses.
20:50 cimbakahn And people think you can't theme it well.  This is also not true.
20:51 Markow Well, I'm quite satisfied with Lxde
20:52 cimbakahn Sokomine: Are you here?  I desperately need your help.
20:54 cimbakahn Everytime i load mg_villages i get snow.  How do i turn it off in the villages?  Is it in one of these 2 files ----> https://imgur.com/a/5t0lp
20:55 sfan5 damnit cimbakahn
20:55 sfan5 stop spamming your question
20:55 sfan5 also give me a link to the source
20:55 sfan5 ill help you
20:55 cimbakahn Sorry!
20:56 cimbakahn Ok.
20:56 cimbakahn https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages
20:57 cimbakahn Sorry that i am being a pest.
20:58 sfan5 cimbakahn: mg_villages.artificial_snow_probability = nil     should do it
20:59 cimbakahn Which file is that in?  Is it in config.lua or mapgen.lua or something else?
20:59 sofar config.lua
20:59 cimbakahn Ok.
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21:04 cimbakahn It did it alright!  Now all i see is gravel and stone.  It needs dirt with grass badly.
21:04 cimbakahn That is going to take alot of work.
21:06 Atomicaton I only have about 5 min after I create a server to connect to it before I just get time out errors
21:11 cimbakahn sfan5: Thank you for trying to help!  I am going to go now.  Have a great day!
21:22 catchin anyone know where minetest.conf goes on mac homebrew installs?
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21:36 Calinou catchin, "locate minetest.conf"?
21:36 Calinou or system search using Finder :P
21:41 Preuk i'm testing some modded blocks on default game but for some reason i can't prime TNT, any clue?
21:42 sofar how are you priming it?
21:43 swift110 sup yall
21:43 Preuk tried fire block, flint&steel
21:43 Preuk found a workaround, adding leaves to have natural propagation
21:44 Preuk gunpowder doesn't work either
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21:47 Preuk must be y version, it works fine on stable
21:48 sofar Preuk: punch tnt with a torch
21:48 sofar Preuk: or use gunpowder
21:48 sofar is that using minetest_game-git?
21:49 Preuk a nighly for windows from last week
21:49 Preuk trch works fine, thx
21:49 sofar can you ignite gunpowder?
21:50 Preuk with torch yes
21:50 Preuk with flint&steel i can only ignite leaves
21:51 sofar interesting, could be a bug
21:51 sofar maybe raise a github ticket
21:52 sofar I made a note for myself, will check later as wlel
21:52 Preuk changeset 15e1dcc
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22:54 catchin thx Calinou did not note about locate cmd
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