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00:00 Fixer this can help http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
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01:40 Dragonop Why do we have cyan diamonds like in MC when they are white-ish irl?
01:41 Void7 or brown
01:42 kaadmy clear? https://www.google.com/search?q=diamon​d&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=​X&ved=0ahUKEwi01ajsp-zLAhVL-mMKHaS​tDKwQ_AUIBygB&biw=1436&bih=819
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03:09 paramat tesla reveal their new car in 20 mins, event is livestreamed
03:21 Void7 i know :)
03:23 paramat hm have to sign up to watch, hopefully livestreamed elsewhere too
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08:28 kaeza o/
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11:31 Calinou wow, I ate something, my client crashed
11:32 Calinou back to desktop
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12:14 Obani I just tested Freeminer
12:14 Obani Why is it so much better ?
12:15 Obani also why can't we take their commits ?
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12:54 Out`Of`Control Obani:  thats why its a fork
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12:59 Calinou <Obani> also why can't we take their commits ?
12:59 Calinou conflicting license
12:59 Calinou GPLv3+ is not compatible with LGPLv2.1+
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12:59 Calinou the only way to solve this is to change Minetest's license to GPLv3+
13:01 Obani Calinou, and they can take our commits ?
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13:05 Calinou they can
13:05 * nm0i pokes proller
13:06 proller ?
13:06 nm0i proller: do you (plural) merge minetest commits?
13:07 proller yes
13:08 nm0i Ok, I'm just waiting for ebuilds then.
13:08 proller freeminer contains all latest minetest commits
13:09 proller and minetest_game too
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13:16 swift110-phone Cool
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15:10 redsPL Minetest on w2k.. with Intel (not) EXTREME!oneoneone graphics 2
15:10 redsPL will it run? Only thing i know now is a very slow mirror.
15:12 redsPL now, question is - will it download it, or stop on 3,5mb like last time.. xD
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15:17 Fixer try it, maybe it will run
15:18 redsPL terrible frame rate, but extended kernel is making miracles
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15:23 Out`Of`Control any guide to make mt run faster? Disable as much as possible
15:23 Jordach get an i5 ;)
15:23 Jordach MT needs raw CPU power
15:24 Out`Of`Control Jordach:  i have shitty GPU for now
15:24 Jordach Out`Of`Control, my 750ti says otherwise
15:24 kinokoio It runs well on a Pentium Dual Core
15:24 kinokoio Just don't activate full range view
15:24 Calinou Jordach, modern Celeron is enough for Minetest...
15:24 Calinou €40 CPU
15:24 Out`Of`Control Jordach:  my cpu is 30 C
15:25 Jordach Out`Of`Control, 100% 4 core load at 40C
15:25 Jordach @3.5GHz
15:25 Out`Of`Control while i run mt and firefox
15:25 Jordach having USB3 is amazing
15:25 Out`Of`Control But what could i disable to make it faster?
15:26 kinokoio In settings, disable all checkboxes
15:26 Out`Of`Control done
15:26 kinokoio How does it run?
15:27 Out`Of`Control i get 30fps but feels laggy
15:27 Calinou disable V-Sync
15:27 Calinou it's maybe enforcing it on graphics driver
15:27 Out`Of`Control Calinou: its in advance?
15:28 Out`Of`Control Calinou:  its off ty
15:28 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/Rg8OLIu.png (。◕‿‿◕。)
15:30 redsPL i ussually use cheap-as-hell thinkpad x201 and minetest runs there on stable ~50fps
15:30 redsPL lol, where's VanessaE?
15:30 Jordach i can max every setting and still get ~170fps
15:30 redsPL Jordach: Intel graphics.
15:30 redsPL xD
15:31 Jordach ooooo, my GPU supports Vulkan (Tier 2)
15:31 redsPL tier 2? you mean computer from that mc opencomputers mod?
15:31 Jordach Vulkan is the replacement to OpenGL
15:32 Jordach http://pastebin.com/raw/DG5w0geW
15:36 Calinou Vulkan is not an OpenGL replacement, there are plenty of cases where OpenGL will remain useful.
15:36 Calinou - legacy hardware/software support
15:36 Calinou - high-level API for beginners, quick development...
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15:39 Fixer looking at mod profiler, register_globalstep
15:39 Fixer , 10912969
15:39 Fixer us, too large? :/
15:40 Fixer oops, oh well
15:40 Out`Of`Control ok running mt and fm, on fm i get twice more fps
15:41 Out`Of`Control i run both at same time
15:41 Fixer Out`Of`Control, settings should be exact
15:41 Fixer Out`Of`Control, and scenes too
15:41 Out`Of`Control Fixer:  i disable all i could in mt
15:42 Out`Of`Control Fixer:  in mt i get 30 fps max most is 20/15
15:43 Out`Of`Control even with full view range 8 fps fm respond faster
15:45 Calinou lol, Freeminer has only 4 servers, all of them being hosted by proller
15:45 Calinou and having weird math worlds :)
15:47 proller sky = indev
15:49 proller Calinou, btw its sme sky you mega griefed 3 years ago
15:49 proller you can find old battle area
15:49 proller and your jail ;)
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15:55 Fixer Wuzzy2, hmm, i feel like your tsm_mines can cause large lag on mine generation
15:55 Wuzzy2 too bad
15:56 Wuzzy2 well most of the generation code is just forked from another mod
15:56 Wuzzy2 and I am not the mapgen pro right now
15:56 Wuzzy2 also, I am SUPER tired right now, I will leave chat soon
15:57 Fixer Wuzzy2, i was testing big subgame with it and noticed huge max_lag, looked into debug, thousands of Map::getNodeMetadata(): Block not found and then "Created mine at (blabla)"
15:58 Wuzzy2 drop all that info into the thread, my brain is too dumb for thinking oh my god my hands are typing words la lla la la
15:59 Fixer sure
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15:59 Wuzzy2 bye
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17:53 Obani Making some publicity https://soundcloud.com/dubl4bex
17:53 Obani https://soundcloud.com/ygam
17:58 PilzAdam !kick Obani spam
17:58 Obani was kicked by MinetestBot: spam
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17:58 Obani really ?
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17:58 JBB msg nickserv identify #01
17:59 Megaf JBB: oops
17:59 JBB ooops thats the right
18:00 Out`Of`Control JBB:  nickserv is not here today
18:00 Megaf Oo
18:00 Megaf That was me xP
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18:00 Obani PilzAdam, for two single links ?
18:01 Megaf JBB: /msg nickserv set password NewPassword
18:01 JBB i know
18:01 PilzAdam Obani, you should ask yourself if posting links like this out of context to channels is really a good way of advertising
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18:02 Obani PilzAdam, this channel is meant to be out of context
18:02 Obani We're actually having a conversation out of context
18:02 Obani Ok if I had posted this to -dev
18:02 Obani But #minetest is a kinda "free" channel
18:03 Out`Of`Control free of spam? :D
18:03 Obani Posting two links one day at one time to make my com for friends/family is something that is legit to me
18:03 PilzAdam Obani, you didn't even bother to start a conversation or anything
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18:03 Obani PilzAdam, I wanted to drop my stone in the water
18:04 PilzAdam "Making some publicity" seems like fire-and-forget spamming
18:04 Megaf Obani: the only problem is that you just posted the links and told us that is publicity
18:04 Megaf Obani: you could just have given us a brief intro of that
18:04 Megaf if its your own work or something
18:05 PilzAdam Obani, something like "I like this artist because ..." would be a totally different story
18:05 PilzAdam Obani, it would suggest that you actually want to talk to people
18:05 JBB Can you change the position of a overlay texture? Im working on a small flowers mod, and it dont looks very well now: https://i.imgur.com/b7ix0CE.png
18:05 Megaf and common, it was just a quick kick, nothing dramatic
18:05 PilzAdam Obani, but instead you just want us to click on these links
18:05 Obani Ok so those are friends, they do cool experimental music and posted their first album some days/weeks ago
18:05 Megaf that's better
18:06 Obani This is one of the rare quality content in the CC-BY-SA music world to me
18:06 Megaf PilzAdam: changing topics now, do you recommend any solution to accept donations?
18:06 Obani Paypal ?
18:06 Megaf I made a Patreon, but it obligate people to have a credit card
18:06 PilzAdam Megaf, donations? for what?
18:06 Megaf and I rather not give my real name/address away
18:07 PilzAdam Megaf, there is a donation page on the website, no?
18:07 Megaf PilzAdam: for projects/people to accept donations in general
18:07 Megaf Obani: I think paypal will expose your private info, from who donate and to whom is been donated to
18:08 PilzAdam Megaf, bitcoin wallets, but it depends on your target audience
18:09 Megaf heh, I knew you or someone would mention BTC, but that's very rare
18:09 Megaf few people know it exists
18:09 PilzAdam I think many people are aware of it, but not much really use it
18:09 Megaf PilzAdam: I have a plan, make money from donations and then donate the money to projects I like. That include Minetest of course
18:10 PilzAdam I heard about flatr, but I don't really know anything about it
18:10 Megaf I heard it too, I will read more about it right now, I've seen some Free Software projects using it
18:11 PilzAdam some CCC members are using it for their projects, so it shouldn't be that bad
18:15 Megaf Flatr needs my real name too =/
18:15 Megaf it's so hard to protect your identity on the internet these days
18:15 Megaf flattr*
18:18 Calinou Megaf> I made a Patreon, but it obligate people to have a credit card
18:18 Calinou welcome to the Internet, where you just can't put coins in your PC :)
18:21 Megaf Calinou: lol
18:22 Megaf Calinou: some people have money on their paypal from services then do or from bank transfers. There's a tone of ways of getting money in your paypal
18:23 Megaf So if Patreon accepts money from paypal accounts, there should be no oblication of having a credit card, specially because we are talking about donations, not a service that is been sold
18:23 Megaf that's my opinion on this at least
18:24 Megaf off topic: I'm quite happy with my new choice of hostname for my server:
18:24 Megaf [root@Titanium root]#
18:25 Calinou not using oh-my-zsh? :)
18:27 Megaf I quite like BASH
18:27 Megaf I tried other shells, including one that is very colourful, smart and can autocomplete and predict stuff
18:27 Megaf but BASH is cool
18:33 nm0i emacs shell is the best
18:33 * nm0i hides
18:38 Megaf this is the colourful sheel I mentioned before https://en.wikipedia.org/wik​i/Friendly_interactive_shell
18:38 Megaf FISH!
18:38 Megaf !title
18:39 MinetestBot Megaf: friendly interactive shell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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19:17 Fixer yeay
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20:38 cimbakahn Does anyone know if there is something wrong with storms server?
20:38 cimbakahn I am getting a 'connection timed out' message.
20:40 cimbakahn I am using version 0.4.13 just like i always have.
20:40 VanessaE its been down for a few days
20:40 cimbakahn Oh!
20:41 cimbakahn What about Nigel's server?  Is there something wrong with it?
20:41 Krock alternatively you can check if a server is up, using MinetestBot
20:41 Krock !up 127.0.0.1 30000
20:41 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30000 seems to be down
20:41 cimbakahn I get a 'your clients version is not supported please contact server administrator' message there.
20:42 VanessaE no clue about that.
20:42 Krock cimbakahn, what's the server title of it? Is it in the server list?
20:43 cimbakahn I hope it isn't a problem with my version of minetest.  I use 0.4.13 because when i use 0.4.13-dev my mods don't work correctly with it.
20:44 cimbakahn nyje.e-it.gr
20:45 cimbakahn It shows here ----> https://servers.minetest.net/
20:46 cimbakahn Someone was saying the other day that there is a 0.4.13-4 version of minetest, but i can't find it.
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20:48 cimbakahn storm.  I can't get on your server.  I am getting a 'connection timed out' message.
20:49 Krock stormchaser3000, it ain't workin!!!!
20:49 VanessaE stormchaser3000: your server has been repeatedly connecting and disconnecting from IRC, with random nicks.  check your keepalives, you may have two instances on the same port again
20:49 cimbakahn Ok.  Thank you!
20:55 cimbakahn Is my version of minetest new enough? ----> 0.4.13
20:59 Krock cimbakahn, there are in-developement builds that contain some new improvements
20:59 Krock mods shouldn't break
21:00 sfan5 !server players:most
21:00 MinetestBot sfan5: Xanadu | 98.166.90.48 | Clients: 30/40, 29/33 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 109ms
21:00 cimbakahn Everytime i use 0.4.13-dev my mods don't work correctly with it.
21:00 Krock !server ping:post
21:00 MinetestBot Krock: No results
21:00 Krock !server ping:most
21:00 MinetestBot Krock: Capital Nation | 24.183.151.237 | Clients: 3/15, 2/7 | Version: 0.4.13 / minetest | Ping: 534ms
21:02 cimbakahn Can anyone else out there get on Nigel's server? ----> nyje.e-it.gr
21:07 Fixer !server ping:least
21:07 MinetestBot Fixer: Capture the Flag (Guns!) | minetest.rubenwardy.com | Clients: 17/20, 15/19 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / capturetheflag | Ping: 1ms
21:11 Fixer sandstone
21:12 Fixer play time
21:14 Fixer crap
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21:15 kaeza o/
21:15 Fixer cart move me into other way today, lagged so much, going back
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21:16 Fixer it is so problematic on laggy servers
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21:16 cimbakahn Can anyone else out there get on Nigel's server? ----> nyje.e-it.gr
21:16 Fixer VanessaE, you here
21:16 Fixer ?
21:17 VanessaE no :P
21:17 kaeza !up nyje.e-it.gr
21:17 MinetestBot nyje.e-it.gr:30000 is up (8ms)
21:17 kaeza cimbakahn, ^
21:17 Fixer VanessaE, did you read my message about turned sign text on Xanadu yesterday?
21:17 kaeza oh you mean... like play? :P
21:17 VanessaE Fixer: I did not see any such message
21:17 VanessaE kaeza: ^^^
21:17 * kaeza is not here either
21:18 kaeza <_<
21:18 Fixer oh well
21:18 kaeza Fixer, see https://github.com/minetest-mods/sign​s_lib/issues/2#issuecomment-196577270
21:18 VanessaE well I'm sure there are others in the minetest-mods team who can fix it, too
21:19 VanessaE oh, you already did.
21:19 Fixer also, white signs that needs punch to show text again
21:19 Megaf what's this minetest-mods? :S
21:19 Fixer need*
21:20 VanessaE Megaf: a group of minetest mod developers who have formed a team for the purpose of keeping each others' and abandoned mods maintained.
21:20 Megaf Oh, cool, so these people can take over my fork of more_chests
21:20 VanessaE if you have some good mod that works well but you have no time to develop on it anymore, poke sofar
21:20 Megaf sofar: ^
21:20 VanessaE see if he or someone else wants to fold it into the minetest-mods group
21:21 kaeza you need to call him three times
21:21 Megaf more_chests is fantastic, I added compatibility with Pipeworks to it and updated (at the time) its textures
21:21 Megaf sofar: please maintain my morechests or more_chests mod
21:21 VanessaE Megaf: is yours the "go-to" version of that mod now?
21:21 Megaf its on my Github
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21:21 Megaf VanessaE: its been for a while, theres a post on the forum about it
21:22 Megaf let me see if I can find it
21:22 VanessaE I mean, is it the one everyone should be expected to use, in lieu of the upstream version?
21:23 Megaf well, there was no other fork of it when I forked it and begun to maintin it and there was more people using it. I expected it to be the default morechests version
21:23 VanessaE then that's a yes. :)
21:23 Megaf https://github.com/Megaf/more_chests
21:24 Megaf https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9495
21:24 Megaf !title
21:24 MinetestBot Megaf: [Mod] More Chests [more_chests] - Minetest Forums
21:24 Megaf sofar: I need someone to help me maintain that mod ^
21:27 Megaf there's a pull request for it :S
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21:31 Megaf VanessaE: how do you deal with life + mods + minetest?
21:31 Megaf VanessaE: My head is almost exploding searching for job, for a new home and moving and getting over a break up.
21:32 VanessaE I just do what I do, and take long breaks when I get tired
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21:32 Megaf I'm almost exploding in fact
21:32 VanessaE the secret is to take it one item at a time
21:32 Megaf yep, I'm concentrating in moving house at the moment
21:32 Calinou holidays just started for me
21:32 cimbakahn VanessaE: Can you change the color of the travelnet boxes?
21:32 Megaf later I will have time to cry for my break up
21:32 Calinou (2 weeks)
21:32 VanessaE cimbakahn: edit the texture.
21:33 VanessaE (otherwise, no)
21:33 cimbakahn Maybe to a color that goes with everything, or most everything.
21:33 cimbakahn ok.
21:34 VanessaE cimbakahn: they're actually based on a real item:  http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/​yellow-phone-booth-25004127.jpg
21:34 Megaf I like the yellow
21:34 VanessaE so they need to be yellow to be "right"
21:34 Megaf a player made a gigantic version of the travelnet
21:34 Megaf on my server, its pretty awesome
21:34 Megaf and we added a command block to it so it teleports people
21:35 Megaf much fun :P
21:35 VanessaE (can't find the original image Sokomine had used as the guide, but that one's close, aside from having split windows on the sides)
21:35 cimbakahn I see.  I am just getting tired hiding them all the time because i think their ugly.
21:35 VanessaE they're not supposed to be pretty, they're supposed to stand out. :P
21:36 VanessaE on my servers where they exist, people usually build enclosed buildings called "travelnet exchanges" that house dozens or possibly hundreds of them
21:36 Calinou the texture of travelnet booth by default is ugly
21:36 Megaf !server Megaf
21:36 Calinou it lacks shading, the noise is very artificial...
21:36 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/6, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 8ms
21:36 Megaf it's alive! after 24 hours of downtime!
21:37 Megaf VanessaE: I attempted to update my server, game and modes yesterday. It failed, after much work I couldn't get the sings to work
21:37 Megaf they were not defined entities or something like that
21:37 VanessaE you sure you updated mt_game also?
21:37 VanessaE signs_lib needs a current mt_game to work right.
21:38 VanessaE as for entities, they're probably old, outdated ones.  use /clearobjects.
21:38 VanessaE signs_lib will restore them properly.
21:39 VanessaE (at one point, months and months ago, the entity name was changed)
21:42 Megaf hm, well, I have a local copy of it now, will try that locally when I have time
21:42 Megaf and the signs were seen as unknown blocks
21:42 Megaf ah, I remember now what happened, homedecor was crashing on startup because it couldnt find signs lib
21:42 cimbakahn VanessaE: You know, you can always make it look like a Tardis......  Or like the phone booth Super Man changes in......
21:42 Megaf yep
21:42 Megaf my servers game is a custom one based on a several months old Minetest game
21:42 Megaf was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
21:42 VanessaE cimbakahn: that's up to Sokomine. it's her mod.  changing the textures isn't hard, you can do that in any image editor.
21:44 cimbakahn I am sorry!  I was under the impression that it was your mod.
21:44 cimbakahn Very sorry.
21:44 VanessaE no worries
21:55 sofar who said my name 3x?
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21:55 Megaf ops
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21:55 sofar Megaf: do a "transfer" of the github repo to github user "sofar" and I'll put it under minetest-mods
22:00 Megaf sofar: is that the only way of minetest-mods keeping the mods? No forking + PRs?
22:01 sofar moving keeps the PR's with the repo
22:01 sofar plus it automatically redirects
22:01 sofar and you keep your access
22:01 sofar so it's the best method at the moment
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22:03 VanessaE Megaf: plus for at least a while, github will redirect for you also, so users will still be able to use their existing links/bookmarks, and can just update at their convenience.
22:03 sofar I've seen really old redirects still work
22:04 VanessaE I guess there's really no cost to an indefinite redirect
22:04 sofar euh well, I just noticed one that expired :/
22:04 sofar so they're not free and indefinite
22:05 VanessaE well shit :)
22:05 Megaf sofar: tranfreded
22:05 Megaf transfered*
22:05 sofar Megaf: ok, I'll finalize it in an hour or so
22:05 Megaf wait, what?
22:05 Megaf "Repository transfer to sofar requested"
22:06 sofar yes, I have to acknowledge
22:06 sofar accept it
22:06 Megaf just checking if your username is correct
22:06 sofar sofar sogood
22:11 Megaf a copy of my server, compiled on a Xeon CPU runs terribly slow on my laptop, that is an AMD CPU, I wonder if it's because this CPU is too much underpowered or if it only have to do with the compilation
22:14 Megaf lol, its because CPU is slow
22:14 Megaf testing with a new minetestserver version compile on the laptop itself with clang
22:14 Megaf still slow, not as slow tho
22:15 sofar Megaf: moved.
22:16 Megaf sofar: ok, thanks
22:16 Megaf I think
22:16 sofar I'll check it out and may brush it up a bit
22:18 Megaf yep, I can thank you for that
22:19 Megaf sofar: if the code is beautiful is my code, if it is not that is the original owners fault
22:19 Megaf :P
22:19 Megaf fault/code
22:22 sofar I just added a mod.conf and description.txt
22:22 sofar a screenshot would be nice
22:22 Megaf ok, my code there is terrible
22:22 Megaf just a bunch of copy and paste
22:22 Megaf :S
22:22 Megaf good luck
22:22 Fixer strong wind right now
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22:26 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FktF1CE4MOg
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22:31 Fixer now internet started to suck
22:31 Fixer and youtube slowed
22:31 Fixer oh well
22:31 Fixer and it is lava in a tunnel blocking my way
22:33 Fixer what is nice about tonemapping it is total darkness (finally)
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22:37 Fixer lets visit "just cheat" server
22:37 Fixer will see
22:39 Fixer bastards
22:39 Fixer blocked sunlight to my cotton in already crowded place
22:41 Megaf Oo
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22:42 Megaf Fixer: just play on Megaf Server and be happy
22:42 Megaf no griefers there
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22:42 Megaf (I'm serous)
22:42 Megaf serious*
22:42 Megaf everyone is welcome on Megaf Server
22:42 Megaf just 5 players at a time please :)
22:42 Fixer Megaf, so much nice servers, i've picked up ESM and play there
22:42 Obani Haha I'm feeding on a PvP server
22:42 Fixer i can't play everywhere
22:42 Obani And I'm not pressing respawn
22:43 Obani The guy thinks I can't die xD
22:43 Megaf lol
22:43 stormchaser3000 :( oOChainLynxOo has been making his minetest videos private
22:43 Megaf in my server we have around 5 PvP arenas, and PvP is only allowed there
22:43 Megaf !server Megaf
22:43 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/6, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 9ms
22:43 Fixer I usually do not pvp
22:43 Fixer i like to collect lots of noob loot
22:43 Fixer feels good
22:44 Fixer and i hate cobble houses, that servers have lots of them
22:45 Megaf Fixer: we had some on my server, and some abandoned, so I rebuilt them :)
22:45 Megaf and now they look cool
22:45 Fixer nice
22:45 Megaf I'm just a little disapointed with our spawn
22:45 Fixer i do hate when people build crap, or build crap and protect it (thats worse)
22:45 Megaf it is a great spawn, but FPS is just terrible there
22:45 Megaf for everyone
22:46 Fixer also, flying doors
22:46 Fixer and even chests
22:46 Fixer finally admins can remove that garbage :}
22:46 Fixer protection_bypass priv
22:47 Megaf I never had any problem with that
22:48 Fixer earlier admins were not able to look into chests and remove them i believe
22:48 Megaf oh
22:48 Megaf that
22:48 Megaf usually I just worldedit them
22:48 Megaf but I think we still cant do anything about safes
22:49 Fixer you can now, i think
22:50 Megaf hm
22:51 Megaf I will try that, first I have to manage to update my server
22:53 Fixer someone spams in my notifications for minetest, probably paramat bumping everything %)
22:55 * kaeza uses RSS to view notifications
22:56 kaeza I just wished Thunderbird had some extension to move to folders based on (captured parts of) regular expressions
23:00 Fixer RSS... hmmmmmmmm
23:00 Fixer i have quiterss
23:01 Megaf /mods/homedecor_modpack/signs_lib/init.lua: No such file or directory
23:01 Megaf VanessaE: ^
23:01 Megaf that with a git pull on homedecor
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23:01 Megaf I will delete it and do a fresh clone
23:02 VanessaE homedecor doesn't come with signs_lib anymore
23:02 DoyleChris anybody with mesecon experiance
23:02 kaeza Megaf, jsut rm -rf signs_lib, and clone the separate repo
23:02 VanessaE and hasn't depended on it in ages
23:02 VanessaE or do that
23:02 Megaf VanessaE: why do you do that? Often you add and remove stuff from your modpacks
23:02 Megaf I never know what thing I need
23:02 Megaf plantlib lfrun sings lib
23:03 kaeza Megaf, it's called progress!
23:03 Megaf can you please make up your mind?
23:03 kaeza but then again, HD is the kitchen sink of mods (pun intended) :P
23:03 VanessaE Megaf: signs_lib was removed months ago.
23:03 VanessaE keep up :)
23:04 VanessaE read the forum posts
23:04 sofar lol
23:04 VanessaE check the git commits
23:04 Megaf I think I will just keep my server stuck back in time
23:04 Megaf lol
23:04 VanessaE Megaf: and one of these days *looks at sofar* signs_lib may become obsolete entirely :)
23:04 Megaf can someone please givem e the githu of signs_lib?
23:04 PilzAdam !g signs_lib github
23:04 PilzAdam :-/
23:05 sofar minetest-mods/signs_lib
23:05 PilzAdam MinetestBot!
23:05 MinetestBot PilzAdam!
23:05 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest-mods/signs_lib
23:05 MinetestBot PilzAdam: https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor_modpack
23:06 Megaf thanks
23:06 DoyleChris I would like to use mesecons to control a sticky piston based on Technic Battery use.
23:06 VanessaE heh, bot FAIL
23:06 PilzAdam MinetestBot, thanks for your fast response
23:06 VanessaE DoyleChris: that would require some kind of charge sensor, which doesn't exist afaik
23:07 DoyleChris yes it does a node detector
23:07 VanessaE well I guess that would work
23:07 VanessaE bit of a hacky way to do it
23:07 DoyleChris batteries have 7 different modes
23:07 VanessaE they have several, yeah I know
23:07 VanessaE so well, capture the node detect signal into a Lua Controller and manipulate it there
23:08 DoyleChris Your right i was trying to use the logic gates.
23:08 VanessaE those could be used too
23:08 VanessaE but then you end up with a "dumb" setup
23:08 DoyleChris now just need to figure out the code
23:09 VanessaE you trying to cut off a charging rail when the batt is full or something?
23:09 DoyleChris kind of
23:09 Megaf VanessaE: ok, new minetest_game + new minetest core + new homedecor + added signs_lib = working fine
23:10 Megaf but boats are so weird now in this new minetest_game
23:10 DoyleChris I have my centfugies going but when the batteries drain i want it to shut off.
23:10 VanessaE DoyleChris: well that already happens anyway
23:10 VanessaE if the batts are drained, what are you feeding the system with at that point?  solar or so?
23:10 Megaf thans
23:11 DoyleChris right but i want them to stay off till there charged up
23:11 DoyleChris MV Solar and LV water Turbines
23:11 VanessaE lemme guess - your main power feed is too weak to directly run your machines.
23:11 Megaf nice new/updated doors in homedecor
23:11 VanessaE so you want to charge the battery and use it as a high-current source to run your machines until flat
23:12 DoyleChris yes
23:12 DoyleChris right
23:12 DoyleChris then recharge
23:13 VanessaE the proper solution there is to reduce your load or increase your available power
23:13 DoyleChris I understand that
23:13 VanessaE but in lieu of that, you need two node detectors. one to look for the "critical low" point, and one to watch for the "full" (or "nearly full") point
23:13 DoyleChris but till i have a few more solar arrays or a reactor
23:13 VanessaE feed them through a few gates to control your piston
23:14 Megaf !g minetest-3d_armor github
23:14 * Megaf waits
23:14 DoyleChris i have been testing it
23:14 Fixer gusts up to 20 m/s
23:14 Megaf Fixer: sounds like fun
23:14 Megaf how much in Km/h
23:14 DoyleChris i try the controller
23:14 Fixer 70 km/h
23:14 * Megaf still waiting for mister bot
23:15 Megaf Fixer: here in Dublin that's quite common
23:15 MinetestBot Megaf: https://github.com/stujones11/minetest-3d_armor
23:15 Fixer o_0
23:15 Megaf thanks MinetestBot
23:15 Megaf Fixer: minimal normal is 22 Km/h
23:15 Megaf every day
23:15 Fixer it is nice actually
23:15 kaeza !mod asdf
23:15 MinetestBot kaeza: Could not find anything.
23:15 Fixer at least in summer
23:15 kaeza !mod signs_lib
23:15 MinetestBot kaeza: kaeza&#39;s/VanessaE&#39;s signs library [signs_lib] by VanessaE - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13762
23:16 Fixer in summers over here so few wind, so hot, so crappy
23:16 Fixer no liquids from the sky
23:16 Megaf I think I forked 3D armor too, hm
23:16 Megaf !g minetest-3d_armor megaf github
23:16 * Megaf waits again
23:16 Fixer and damn haze
23:16 DoyleChris any more help for the controller besides the mesecons site
23:16 VanessaE DoyleChris: also, consider positioning your piston so that it can act as a SPDT switch - common goes to the batts, one throw to the solar/hydro arrays, the other to your machines.
23:17 VanessaE that way you only need one.
23:17 Fixer it is very cool when cold air arrives and suddenly sky is so deep blue with excellent visibility
23:17 MinetestBot Megaf: https://github.com/stujones11/minetest-3d_armor
23:17 Megaf fail
23:17 Fixer you can look so far to horizon
23:17 Megaf !g minetest-3d_armor github.com/megaf
23:18 Megaf !g weather dublin
23:18 Megaf !weather dublin
23:18 MinetestBot Megaf: https://github.com/stujones11/minetest-3d_armor
23:18 Megaf we should have weather bot
23:19 * Megaf looks at ShadowNinja
23:19 * Megaf looks at sfan5
23:19 MinetestBot Megaf: http://www.accuweather.com/en/ie/du​blin/207931/weather-forecast/207931
23:19 sfan5 nah
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23:23 VanessaE DoyleChris: http://daconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/mi​netest/screenshots/random/Screenshot%20-​%2004012016%20-%2007%3A22%3A01%20PM.png
23:23 JohnsenSpy Hello ;-;
23:24 JohnsenSpy Nice machine .-.
23:24 VanessaE DoyleChris: on the left, two LV batts and a switching station.  middle, a sticky piston.  behind, a mesecons switch (for clarity, this is where your control signal goes).  at right, a CNC machine on one "throw" and solar panels on the other.
23:25 VanessaE the way it's wired, the left LV cables approach the piston at both it's retracted AND extended positions.  one throw is immediately opposite, the other goes out 90 degrees to them
23:25 VanessaE (note that the cables do not update their connection appearance - ShadowNinja is this a technic bug?)
23:26 VanessaE when the piston is retracted, it's making a connection between the batts/switching station assembly, and the CNC machine
23:26 VanessaE when extended, the CNC machine is cut off and the power is routed in from the solar arrays instead.
23:26 VanessaE this is what substantially what you need, except with node detectors and LuaC to control the piston.
23:28 VanessaE also try not to draw so much power through your circuit that that poor, innocent rat by the wall gets cooked :)
23:30 Megaf Good night everyone
23:30 Megaf cya
23:34 Fixer received warning about up to 30 m/s
23:34 Fixer interesting
23:34 JohnsenSpy Yes!
23:34 JohnsenSpy The superman song :D
23:35 VanessaE DoyleChris: here's a better screenshot with the wires manipulated so that it makes more sense.  http://daconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/mi​netest/screenshots/random/Screenshot%20-​%2004012016%20-%2007%3A34%3A16%20PM.png
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23:44 Fixer gn
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23:53 DoyleChris i see what you set up there, the only problem is i have other machines griding and smelting ore from the battiries and arrays
23:54 VanessaE well you just have to make sure you keep everything separate then
23:54 VanessaE you'll figure it out.
23:54 VanessaE that's just the most basic form, with manual control of the switching circuit
23:54 DoyleChris i just need to figure out the controller
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