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00:23 rubenwardy Tested that it works in release mode this time: https://play.google.com/store/apps/detai​ls?id=com.rubenwardy.minetestmodmanager
00:23 rubenwardy sofar ^
00:28 kinokoio Hi, how do you pick up an empty furnace?
00:32 Fixer kinokoio, dig it by pickaxe
00:33 kinokoio well, I tried to do with a wooden pickaxe and didn't work
00:34 Fixer kinokoio, try with stone one
00:34 kinokoio yeah, it works
00:34 kinokoio sorry, I came from mc
00:35 Fixer np
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00:40 sofar rubenwardy: works now.
00:40 rubenwardy excellent
00:41 sofar rubenwardy: does it need a bower json file in a module to get more info in the list?
00:41 rubenwardy it needs description.txt. The author and forum link is got from Krock's mod search
00:42 sofar weird, the list entry for crops is just "crops" and "sofar" alone
00:45 sofar it also doesn't work, lol, but that's my issue (maybe old android minetest version)
00:46 rubenwardy what happens when you try to install?
00:47 rubenwardy If you open up a file manager, do you see "Minetest" in the internal storage, and what's in it?
00:48 sofar it installs just fine, I see the mod image and info
00:48 sofar I can enable the mod in minetest on my phone
00:48 sofar it just crashes with a lua error on world startup with singleplayer if the mod is enabled
00:49 rubenwardy what's the crash?
00:50 sofar something in crops/init.lua
00:51 rubenwardy It may be because it thinks your modname is Crops
00:51 rubenwardy rather than crops
00:51 rubenwardy !title https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=11795
00:51 MinetestBot rubenwardy: [Mod] Crops [Crops] - (Farming|Food|Cooking) - Minetest Forums
00:52 rubenwardy See [Crops]
00:53 sofar failed to load an run Crops/init.lua
00:53 sofar the folder is "Crops"
00:53 sofar but of course mod.conf has "crops"
00:53 sofar should I edit the forum?
00:53 sofar was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like pastebin.ubuntu.com or gist.github.com.
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00:54 rubenwardy if mod.conf has crops, it should be fine
00:54 sofar old android version then?
00:55 rubenwardy potentially, it could not support mod.conf
00:55 Taoki Hey. Still no news at all on RBA? I think it's been close to a month...
00:56 sofar error loading mod "Crops" - naming convention
00:56 sofar Taoki: read the forum post plz
00:57 sofar https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&​t=14228&sid=e4ce1d30b2f3d878a088f3981a8b9f3b
00:57 Taoki Thanks
00:59 rubenwardy appears it's [a-z0-9_] not [a-zA-Z0-9_] as I thought
00:59 rubenwardy I will make it make names lower case
01:11 rubenwardy sofar, crop's description isn't showing because for some reason the regex is failing to recognise it's a github link
01:11 rubenwardy so weird
01:11 sofar LOL
01:12 rubenwardy also, I just fixed Crops not being [a-z0-9_]
01:14 rubenwardy It seems that literally only every over github link is recognised
01:14 rubenwardy maybe regex have a global state or something
01:14 rubenwardy as in, the regex is stored outside the function
01:15 rubenwardy lol, that worked
01:15 rubenwardy before I stored a variable holding a regex outside the variable thinking it would be a constant
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01:25 rubenwardy as promised: https://github.com/rubenwardy/mtmods4android
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02:08 rubenwardy I'd be grateful if people could translate this file: https://github.com/rubenwardy/mtmods4android/b​lob/master/app/src/main/res/values/strings.xml
02:11 Void7 can i use google translate O.o
02:12 Dragonop rubenwardy, I could try translating it to spanish. Where should I upload it to?
02:14 rubenwardy you could just send me a link to a gist/pastebin
02:14 Dragonop KK, I will see what I can do
02:16 rubenwardy or you could make a file called app/src/main/res/values-es/strings.xml and PR that
02:16 rubenwardy Void7, http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2012/06/18/pas-beso​in-de-google-translate-on-a-un-collegue-bilingue/
02:17 Void7 :) i was joking
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02:18 rubenwardy I know Xd
02:18 kaadmy :]
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02:39 Dragonop rubenwardy, would it be okay if I translate "Mod Detail" to "Details" (ofc in spanish)? It gets long: "Detalles del mod"
02:39 Dragonop Not sure if that would make any difference
02:39 rubenwardy probably should be details
02:40 Dragonop Ok :d
02:40 rubenwardy That's not actually used anywhere, other than as a placeholder
02:40 Dragonop LoL
02:41 rubenwardy which I why I hadn't noticed the bad grammar
02:41 rubenwardy I'm gonna hit the sack now, but see you tomorrow
02:42 Dragonop Oke
02:42 Dragonop Gonna send you a pm with the link when I'm done
02:42 Dragonop Good night
02:43 rubenwardy o/
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04:30 basil60 Hi can anyone tell me what config I use to allow area protection in Minetest?
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04:48 sofar basil60: areas or protector mods
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04:51 basil60 sofar: areas
04:53 sofar what about it?
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04:56 yang2003 CWz, wb
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05:16 basil60 I'm using the areas mod - when I type protect, it gives a message that says "sef protection is disabled". How do I enable it?
05:16 basil60 slef
05:16 basil60 self
05:18 ssieb There are some privs involved, although if you are admin, you should have them automatically.
05:19 ssieb I don't know what that command does, try "/help protect"
05:20 basil60 ssieb: I used protect area name - I'm not running as admin. What privs do I need to give?
05:21 ssieb I don't know off-hand, check the docs.
05:21 * ssieb hopes there are some :-)
05:21 basil60 ssieb: thanks, will do!
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05:27 basil60 ssieb: looks like the permission is called "areas"
05:28 ssieb Probably.  I use that mod, but can't remember what the privs are right now.
05:28 ssieb I think there might be one or two more you need.
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12:23 MinetestBot [git] reisfe -> minetest/minetest: Translated using Weblate (Portuguese) 5cacb81 https://git.io/vah7R (2016-03-25T13:22:49+01:00)
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13:21 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default: Reduce sand footstep and dug sound gains 14334a1 https://git.io/vahAF (2016-03-25T13:15:22Z)
13:21 MinetestBot [git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest_game: Books: Ensure backward compatibility for older written books 6749da1 https://git.io/vahAb (2016-03-25T13:15:12Z)
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14:20 Obani \o/
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14:23 MinetestBot [git] Rui914 -> minetest/minetest: Falling: Set acceleration on step again c3f6cdc https://git.io/vajTT (2016-03-25T15:19:39+01:00)
14:25 Obani \o\
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14:27 Fixer my dog has died today :( bad week
14:32 kaadmy sadly too many things are dying...
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15:13 Topic for #minetest is now Welcome to #minetest, official Minetest channel | Latest version: 0.4.13 (2015-08-20) | Responses may take a while, be patient | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
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15:37 Calinou plol'd
15:37 Calinou found this by DuckDuckGoing "open source business models"
15:39 Fixer business model?
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15:56 nrzkt yeah, it's why microsoft release it's proprietary softs as open source
15:57 nrzkt but yes, the revenue of maintaining a single product is nothing, except gitlab
15:57 nrzkt :)
15:59 Calinou GitLab is not really open source, it literally drove away from the spirit and philosophy and it
15:59 Calinou of it*
15:59 Calinou gitlab.com runs the proprietary Enterprise Edition for example
16:00 Calinou so most people use a proprietary version
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16:04 pampeho hi
16:04 pampeho umm, why the blocks reappear for less than a second after i break them?
16:06 nrzkt pampeho, lag
16:06 nrzkt because block is removed definitively when the server ack
16:08 pampeho but this is local
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16:08 pampeho it looks terrible
16:09 nrzkt local = with local server
16:09 pampeho yes
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16:10 pampeho is there no clientside prediction?
16:10 pampeho if they have to reappear, they should at least have a delay
16:14 nrzkt it's the client side prediction
16:16 DoyleChris does exteredad come here
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17:03 germanuel24 HELP a user of mine previously used a nether portal of an old, now deleted mod... now i replaced this old nether mod with another and since then the user ALWAYS is at position = (-1016.67,-200159,2223.63) after login
17:03 Guest31726 Hello, I'm having problems with Minetest server. I read some tutorials and tried to run it. It crashes on me. Debug.txt says it's listening on 0.0.0.0:30000.
17:04 Guest31726 Doesn't this sound wrong?
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17:05 germanuel24 0.0.0.0:30000 is completely normal
17:05 JBB no listening on port 3000 just means your server waits for clients hwo login on port 30000
17:06 JBB and 0.0.0.0 is your internal adress. you can change that in the mnetest.conf file for getting your server in the offical server list
17:06 JBB probbly reinstall minetest-server?
17:06 Guest31726 It fails to bind to socket and it says port already in use
17:06 JBB or just try "minetest --server  --worldname <your server map>
17:07 JBB then restart the server
17:07 JBB this just means another minetest is running. restarting is the easyest way to fix
17:09 JBB or paste "port = 30001" this in your minetest.conf, but your client will have to tipp 30001 at the port too
17:11 Guest31726 So should port forwarding be set to 30001 instead of 30000?
17:12 germanuel24 I fixed the issue by installing the old mod again of the nether
17:13 Guest31726 Also, I just installed minetest server this morning.
17:17 Guest31726 Is there a difference between using port 30000 and 30001? Sorry, I'm not a networking guru.
17:20 Guest31726 All right. I keep getting the port in use error. I guess I'll try restarting the computer and executing it again. Thanks.
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17:25 victorW I'm trying to run a Minetest server for the first time. I keep getting "failed to bind to socket (port already in use?)."
17:25 victorW This is after closing everything and restarting the computer.
17:25 germanuel24 Change the port in minetest.conf as well as in your router settings (port forwarding)
17:26 germanuel24 Port can be anything between 25000 and 50000 IIRC
17:27 victorW So, just add a line to minetest.conf ("port=30000")?
17:27 germanuel24 Yup and if you use a router tell it to forward connections to internal chosen port
17:28 germanuel24 I had the same issue and went with 25000 for example
17:29 victorW If I'm using Ubuntu, is this the minetest.conf that is in the hidden minetest folder inside the home folder?
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17:30 germanuel24 Run like this "minetest --server --config .minetest/minetest.conf --worldname NAME"
17:32 victorW All right. I'll try changing the port; I guess. Thanks.
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17:36 victorW Thanks again. I think I've finally solved the whole "failed to bind to socket" thing.
17:37 victorW Now it seems to be locked up on the unified inventory mod.
17:37 victorW Is there a list of mods with known server issues somewhere?
17:38 germanuel24 Most mods have an own forum topic..people usually post their issues there or if the user has github they do it there
17:40 germanuel24 Did you mean the server crashes when loading unified_inventory?
17:41 victorW Well, it didn't return to the prompt at the command line after executing.
17:42 germanuel24 Does the log say something like "UNRECOVERABLE ERROR OCCURED"?
17:43 victorW I disabled all mods. This is now the last line in debug.txt: "2016-03-25 10:42:33: ACTION[main]: Server for gameid="minetest" listening on 0.0.0.0:30001."
17:44 germanuel24 Oh no this means it works
17:44 victorW The terminal just has a blank line at the bottom.
17:44 germanuel24 Yes it listens for clients
17:44 victorW Oh, cool. Thanks.
17:45 germanuel24 Do you want it to be appear in the server list?
17:45 germanuel24 -be*
17:45 victorW What about the uid and p/w stuff. Is that something I'm supposed to configure somewhere as well?
17:45 victorW I'm brand new with this. I just wanted to practice for a while before I try to go public.
17:46 germanuel24 You should set name=ADMINNAME in minetest.conf
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17:47 germanuel24 And when you feel like you wanna go public you add this server_address=DOMAIN if you have a domain and not just an IP
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17:48 germanuel24 And to announce your server to the public list server_announce = true
17:48 victorW Does "ADMINNAME" equal the OS admin name or is that whatever we want it to be?
17:48 germanuel24 It's your username /username of the admin
17:49 germanuel24 If you connect ingame as "testuser" and have name = testuser in conf it will treat you as admin
17:51 victorW I see a "name= " in minetest.conf. Do I just add the username to this line and then add another line below it starting with "password = "?
17:52 germanuel24 No
17:52 germanuel24 You define the password with your client when you login the first time
17:52 victorW How does Minetest know what the password is?
17:52 victorW Oh
17:53 germanuel24 MT will then create an auth.txt file in your folder which has all usernames/privilieges/passwords(encrypted)
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17:55 germanuel24 To prevent empty passwords on login add to conf disallow_empty_password = true
17:56 victorW Thank you so much. I think I can take it from here. I got my client connected. I appreciate your help and patience with me.
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19:01 Calinou GSoC proposals ended, and I ended up not participating :|
19:01 Calinou I have stuff to do this summer, like passing driver license
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20:26 nrzkt Calinou, on which project would you want to work ? and this is for university students
20:27 Calinou I'm a university student
20:27 Calinou and wanted to work on ownCloud
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20:34 sofar can you make an android client that isn't obnoxiou? :)
20:37 Calinou no Java skills…
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20:42 Krock CWz, repair your connection!
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21:54 iangp !btc BRL
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22:21 DoyleChris can somebody help me with a error
22:22 sfan5 just ask
22:22 DoyleChris trying to get a link to paste the error in its big
22:24 DoyleChris whats the best pastebin to put it in
22:24 sfan5 pastebin.com
22:26 DoyleChris http://pastebin.com/V57wgk16
22:27 DoyleChris i have a Raspberry pi running jessie, and compiled the game for server use.
22:27 sfan5 DoyleChris: http://wiki.minetest.net/Troubleshooting#.E2.80.9CServerEnvironment::loadMeta​.28.29:_EnvArgsEnd_not_found.E2.80.9D
22:27 sfan5 see the envargsend thingy
22:27 DoyleChris ran it was fine, added mods went to run and it froze, then restarted pi and the program gives me that
22:28 DoyleChris ok
22:29 DoyleChris didnt fix it
22:29 sfan5 are you sure
22:29 sfan5 did it show a different error?
22:30 DoyleChris same thing
22:30 sfan5 try deleting the file again
22:30 DoyleChris the (in thread is different)
22:31 DoyleChris same thing
22:32 sfan5 wat
22:32 sfan5 try restarting the server
22:33 DoyleChris i think i need to redo the compile
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22:34 DoyleChris I deleted the world folder and restarted and got a different error
22:35 Sokomine is anyone able to figure out problems with the protector mod?
22:35 sfan5 can you paste that error too?
22:36 DoyleChris http://pastebin.com/raw/Q3Ujdf3h
22:36 sfan5 huh that doesnt make much sense
22:36 ssieb Sokomine: what's wrong with it?
22:37 DoyleChris delete minetest directory and start over
22:37 sfan5 try that
22:37 Sokomine ssieb: it's working for the griefers. two neighbours willing to share an area (even with the admin's cooperation) can't due to overlapping. the griefers win
22:38 ssieb hmm, areas supports that...
22:38 Sokomine ssieb: yes. areas does. i do like areas. protector does not :-(
22:39 Fixer Sokomine, you should ask TenPlus1 about protector
22:39 DoyleChris all i enabled for mods was unified inventory
22:39 Sokomine ssieb: i sometimes make the error of building on servers that have only the protector mod installed. nice textures tempt me. but it always turns out to be a complete failure :-(
22:39 Sokomine Fixer: i'm about to drag him to the server and let him fix it by himshelf :-)
22:40 Fixer Sokomine, he is sleeping
22:40 Sokomine (just not sure which fork of protector is actually installed...)
22:40 Fixer Sokomine, what server?
22:41 Sokomine er...i believe extreme survival or such. one of maikaumines servers
22:41 Fixer Sokomine, oh, it is protector redo by tenplus1, that is for sure
22:48 Fixer current mood: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eclMFa0mD1c
22:48 iangp sdsa
22:48 DoyleChris now i cant delete the minetest folder
22:50 sfan5 this might explain the other problems
22:50 sfan5 are you sure the permissions are set correctly
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23:00 iangp DoyleChris: have you tried check the permission of the file env_meta.txt?
23:00 iangp ls -l /mnt/32/minetest/bin/../worlds/world/env_meta.txt
23:03 DoyleChris well i pulled the flash drive plugged it into mine and the files where gone
23:03 DoyleChris reformated it fat32 and restarting
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23:04 Samson1 kaadmy, Hello :)
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23:06 iangp DoyleChris: You was trying run the minetest inside the flash drive?
23:06 DoyleChris yeah
23:07 DoyleChris exterdad said the sd card was slow
23:07 DoyleChris https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=10&amp;t=13971
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23:10 Bro666 Hiya
23:11 Bro666 I'm new to minetest and trying to create a simple mod in Lua to get my feet wet.
23:11 Bro666 On entering the game, I want to place a certain block/node (say a diamond ore block) near my player.
23:11 Bro666 But I have tried several things and I can't seem to get my head around it.
23:11 Bro666 SOmebody on this channel suggested I try this:
23:11 Bro666 http://pastebin.com/SKQy9Ddx
23:11 Bro666 But that bombs with an error that says "expecting userdata, got table" on the "read_from_map" line.
23:11 Bro666 I was wondering if naybody could point me in the right direction.
23:14 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/kZPV4Zh.png view of "tring" platform 1000 blocks above
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23:17 iangp DoyleChris: I thought linux refuses run software through a flash disk directly and then, I thought, this may be the problem but try to check the permissions of the whole folder. Was logged as root?
23:18 DoyleChris well i am resetting the flash drive
23:18 DoyleChris it worked once but went corrupt
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23:24 iangp Bro666: Why you dont try this, inside the function:
23:24 iangp minetest.set_node(player:getpos(), "default:stone_with_diamond")
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23:24 Bro666 Thanks. I will.
23:25 DoyleChris permissions are pissing me off
23:25 iangp DoyleChris: That's they job
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23:26 iangp But they are doing with the wrong person
23:26 DoyleChris i dont know how many ways to tell i want the flash drive to be used by all and still permission denied
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23:27 Bro666 minetest.set_node(player:getpos(), {name="default:stone_with_diamond"})
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23:49 iangp DoyleChris: any good news? seems VFAT/FAT32 does not support execute permissions
23:49 iangp http://askubuntu.com/questions/17540/how-do-i-s​et-executable-permissions-on-a-removable-drive
23:49 iangp http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17421842/pe​rmission-issues-not-able-to-run-script-as-root
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