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00:00 sloantothebone Excuse me, the _ was meant to be a question mark
00:00 everamzah i think it would be an engine enhancement, perhaps not possible with lua?  i recall this being discussed either on forum or github.
00:01 everamzah https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=92 <-- here is one forum thread on the subject
00:02 everamzah https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6823 <-- this seems related, Dragonop, but doesn't mention max_drop_level
00:02 sloantothebone And also, I think it would be easy to add the feature of highlighting any message in the chatbox with the player's username in it.
00:03 Dragonop there was a dual wield mod some time ago, let me search
00:04 everamzah https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6123 <-- this one does mention max_drop_level
00:05 everamzah but i'm not sure what to make of it
00:05 sloantothebone I've seen things that do something similar, such as right clicking with a pickaxe places whatever is to the right of the pickaxe in the inventory
00:05 Dragonop thanks everamzah
00:08 everamzah you're welcome drag
00:08 everamzah sorry i couldn't be more helpful.  now i am more curious, tho, and am going to continue tinkering
00:09 everamzah another explanation of max_drop_level: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?p=47361#p47361
00:11 Dragonop sloantothebone, here's the link to that post, it's truly dead, but maybe somebody has a copy of it
00:11 Dragonop https://forum.minetest.net/​viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=92
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00:12 everamzah that's a familiar looking link ^_^
00:12 sloantothebone Hmm
00:15 everamzah so, max_drop_level has no effect in the default game, but mods can use this value as defined in the tool's def to act in some way.  https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?p=92259#p92259
00:20 Dragonop I was reading that
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01:22 DoyleChris evening
01:23 DoyleChris I have been reading though the forums trying to find info about how water acts in minetest.
01:23 DoyleChris i noticed a mod called old style water from 2012
01:24 DoyleChris what im looking for is the ability to fill a tunnel with water.
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01:25 DoyleChris either by having waterflow into it or using pipeworks to pipe it in.
01:25 DoyleChris but water only flows 8 blocks from source is there a way to extend that
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01:27 kaadmy DoyleChris: i'm afraid not, the engine has a max limit of 8 nodes that the water can flow afaik
01:28 DoyleChris is there a way i can change it on my end
01:29 kaadmy unlikely, unless i'm mistaken
01:29 everamzah you could change the properties of the water, or make a new liquid node
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01:30 everamzah https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L3471 <-- liquid_range
01:30 kaadmy everamzah: liquid can only flow 8 nodes, it's an engine limit afaik
01:30 everamzah search "liquid_" in lua_api.txt, there's functions too
01:30 everamzah i haven't played with it much kaadmy i admit i don't know for certain
01:30 everamzah only what i read in this doc
01:31 kaadmy read the end of that line you linked
01:31 kaadmy "liquid_range = 8, -- number of flowing nodes around source (max. 8)"
01:31 everamzah LOL!
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01:31 DoyleChris so i would haft to recompile the game to change it
01:32 DoyleChris or make a new water node
01:32 kaadmy DoyleChris: i think the engine can't handle greater than 8 nodes, it's not a soft limit i think
01:33 everamzah very interesting
01:33 DoyleChris ok new question about the trees
01:34 DoyleChris which involves water
01:34 everamzah the way does flow indefinitely downward, though, yes?
01:35 everamzah what about an ABM on flowing water, to check it's level, and then continue it on its path?
01:35 DoyleChris in the moretrees document it has to columns "Nearness to some Node" and "Nearby Water"
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01:37 DoyleChris example for rubber it says "nearness to some node" - water, 15 and "nearby Water" - 10
01:37 DoyleChris can i put just one node of water within 10 nodes of 4 rubber trees and that is enough water
01:38 DoyleChris as long as the radius from the water touchs the trees
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01:38 DoyleChris that would make my life easier
01:39 everamzah then again perhaps this ABM would not be able know what the water's path was
01:40 everamzah it would be nice to dig a trench in between two bodies of water and watch it fill in some expected way
01:44 everamzah if flowing water is adjacent to a water source, but is also adjacent to other flowing water nodes with a lesser level (has already spread), then turn it into a source?
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01:45 kaadmy everamzah: water is quite simple
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01:46 kaadmy as it flows outwards, the height decreases. dropping down a node makes the node below it also flowing, which prolongs the flow distance. when the height is 0, it stops.
01:46 kaeza greetings
01:46 kaadmy i think that's how it works, someone correct me if it's wrong
01:49 kaeza pretty much. there was also "realistic" liquids back in 0.4.10 or so
01:49 kaeza I think it was removed for... uhh... some reason
01:49 kaeza breaking map format, I think it was
01:49 kaadmy i think they even removed the "realistic liquids" option too
01:49 everamzah i heard about "psuedo-source" nodes on downward slopes, that aid to perpetuate the liquid's movement downhill
01:55 kaeza git checkout 0279f32db742f06d24a9d01c46f7d70c5e570eb2^1; liquid_finite = true in minetest.conf
02:01 kaeza disclaimer: I'm not responsible if you break your existing worlds :)
02:01 everamzah minetest.add_node_level can be negative to decrease a node's level -- neat
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02:07 everamzah hahaha minetest.set_node_level(pos, minetest.get_node_max_level(pos))
02:08 kaeza :?
02:09 everamzah abm on flowing water
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02:50 nbrecht01 I  just installed the wardrobe mod. I want to add some textures, so I put the full path of the .png files in the skins.txt in the mods/wardrobe folder. However, when I place a wardrobe, open it, and press my skin it says it cannot find it. Where should I put my skins?
02:51 everamzah use just file name, but not the path
02:51 everamzah it checks the textures folder anyway
02:51 nbrecht01 where is the textures folder? thats my question/
02:51 nbrecht01 where is the textures folder? thats my question.
02:51 everamzah wardrobe/textures
02:51 nbrecht01 Ok.
02:51 everamzah and skins.txt can exist in either the mod dir, or the world dir
02:52 everamzah or both
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09:20 XeonSquared Anyone got any idea if I can make irrlicht do stereo 3D?
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10:52 YuGiOhJCJ hello, in the user interface of the android version of minetest, I can't find how to show the console: https://lut.im/pkcUxBH7NA/TQbKL3Z1n4BXPUYs.png and https://lut.im/ZlT347FDIq/sItfwiKBJkT4xMdP.png I thought it was not implemented but a player told me it is possible to show the console. How to do that please?
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12:29 Calinou http://atomicgameengine.com/ - it's open source now, under MIT license. editor does not support GNU/Linux yet :(
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13:26 Samson1 kahrl,
13:26 Samson1 sorry
13:26 Samson1 I did not mean to do that...
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14:55 rubenwardy !title https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?f=47&amp;t=14224
14:55 MinetestBot rubenwardy: PSA: description.txt and screenshot.png in mod/modpack. - Minetest Forums
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15:27 cth_ hello
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15:33 afflatus what is curses / ncurses used for and why do I need it?
15:33 everamzah it's for the --terminal argument
15:33 afflatus Plus which library should I be using?
15:33 everamzah you can run a server instance with a front-end to enter commands
15:34 afflatus Clearly not libncursesw.so.5 from my last failed build :/
15:34 afflatus Oh so it's for remote commands?
15:35 everamzah not remote
15:35 afflatus So I could easily build without?
15:35 everamzah --terminal allows to enter commands into the server without needing to load the client
15:35 everamzah so if that's not something you're interested in, you don't need to enable it
15:35 afflatus Thanks everamzah
15:35 everamzah you're quite welcome
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15:36 afflatus I'm so not a C person. I hate compiling things :p But I am getting slightly better at it.
15:40 afflatus Hmm using -DCURSES_USE_NCURSES=0 yet it's still building the ncurses console. o.k.
15:40 afflatus Oh I see, it's buiding a curses console now.
15:41 afflatus which I predict will fail because -DCURSES_LIBRARY=/usr/lib/i3​86-linux-gnu/libncurses.so.5
15:42 afflatus meh I expect I'll get there by the end of the afternoon :D
15:42 everamzah cmake . -LH shows options
15:43 afflatus Yeah. I know. I need to slow down.
15:44 everamzah it shows ENABLE_CURSES -- not sure about CURSES_USE_NCURSE
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15:45 afflatus That was from reading something by rubenwardy. Probably different on Debian
15:45 everamzah i was wondering if it was system dependent ... i'm on stretch fwiw
15:45 rubenwardy Heh?
15:46 afflatus oh hello
15:46 rubenwardy I never managed to get curses to work
15:46 rubenwardy I gave up in the end XD
15:46 everamzah after using --terminal, i can never go back
15:46 afflatus Ah, so I should ignore all tha then
15:46 everamzah libncurses5-dev for me, i think
15:46 rubenwardy yeah
15:47 afflatus so -DENABLE_CURSES=0 for the next attempt
15:47 afflatus I've installed the -dev package
15:48 afflatus But there are three libraries - curses, ncurses and ncursesw
15:48 everamzah ncurses
15:48 everamzah definitely not curses... the n stands for "new"
15:48 everamzah i dunno about w
15:48 afflatus That's for wide char support
15:48 everamzah neat
15:49 afflatus bah - make[2]: *** No rule to make target '/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libncurses.so.5'
15:50 everamzah you don't have to specify it, tho
15:50 everamzah if you do cmake . and it finds a suitable lib it will use it, otherwise not
15:50 afflatus I'll check cmake -LH before next build ;)
15:50 everamzah and then just make clean && make
15:50 everamzah but also try deleting CMakeCache.txt
15:50 afflatus So just installing the dev package should do the right thing?
15:50 everamzah yes
15:51 afflatus ok thanks
15:51 everamzah yw, good luck!
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15:55 afflatus I have actually just sidetracked myself - I am trying to figure out why my server keeps locking up.
15:55 afflatus The only answer to that is probably a debug session
15:56 afflatus Not something I really want to do on a live server, but I won't find out unless I do it live.
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16:04 afflatus OK, looks like I successfully built it with ncursesw this time :O
16:06 afflatus That means I can go 'dark' heh.
16:07 afflatus So just one thing I'm wondering now ...
16:07 afflatus /usr/bin/ld: warning: libjpeg.so.62, needed by /usr/lib/gcc/i586-linux-gnu/5/../..​/../i386-linux-gnu/libIrrlicht.so, may conflict with libjpeg.so.8
16:07 afflatus Does anyone know what effect that might have?
16:08 afflatus I'm looking for reasons the server might lockup rather than exit on errors
16:11 everamzah looks like irrlict was built with jpeg 6.2 and minetest was built with 8?  (guessing)
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16:20 afflatus yep Debian testing has libjpeg.so.8, I assume it's irrlicht 1.8 that wants libjpeg.so.62
16:21 everamzah i'm on testing too ^5
16:21 afflatus cool, so we speak the same language \o/
16:22 afflatus Still that should only affect the client, not the server. So probably a non-issue for me atm.
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16:47 cth_ I have problem with Minetest compilation. I trying to cross-compile Minetest for Windows using MinGW under Ubuntu 12.04 64bit (using buildbot script). I try different versions of Minetest and different compilers and resault is always the same. On i586-mingw32msvc (from MinGW32) compilation stops on 35% with errors "/minetest/src/unittest/te​st_serialization.cpp:298: error: integer constant is too large for ‘long’ type".
16:48 cth_ On x86_64-w64-mingw32 (from MinGW-w64) compilation ends with no errors but when i trying to run this on Windows it says that there is no libstdc++-6.dll and some other dlls. So i probably doing something wrong but i have no idea what. :(
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16:52 afflatus cth_: Sounds like you just need to install the missing dlls for the x86_64-w64-mingw32 version. But I know nothing about Windows so can't realy help, sorry.
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17:09 cth_ But why MinGW32 compilation ends with error?
17:10 everamzah you said it ends with no errors
17:11 everamzah or is this two different things, sorry
17:11 everamzah seems it just cant find the lib
17:11 Krock install windows and use MSVC /troll comment
17:11 everamzah you're compiling both 32 and 64 ?
17:12 Krock MinGW32 sounds like 32-bit for me
17:12 cth_ Yes i try to compile both versions
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17:13 cth_ 32-bit version ends at 35% with error: /minetest/src/unittest/test_serialization.cpp:298: error: integer constant is too large for ‘long’ type"
17:14 sfan5 cth_: ubuntu shipped a very outdated mingw version last time i checked
17:14 sfan5 you might want to use a newer mingw version from somewhere
17:14 sfan5 also about the missing dlls
17:15 sfan5 those DLLs should be somewhere in your mingw installation /usr/x86_64-w64-mingw32msvc maybe, you need to copy them from there
17:24 cth_ Thanks sfan5, I didn't know I need to copy these dlls from my mingw installation, also I will try to update mingw :)
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17:51 garywhite_ Hello?
17:53 Samson1 Hello :)
17:53 Samson1 garywhite_, Can I be of any assistance?
17:53 garywhite_ I hope so
17:54 garywhite_ I have been trying to set up a server, but I cannot get unified_inventory mod to load
17:54 garywhite_ My debug.txt reads: 2016-03-17 10:44:46: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from  2016-03-17 10:44:46: ERROR[main]: D:\FlipShare Data\mt\minetest-0.4.13\bin\..\​mods\unifiedinventory\init.lua: 2016-03-17 10:44:46: ERROR[main]: ...Data\mt\minetest-0.4.13\bin\.​.\builtin\game\register.lua:60: Name unified_inventory:bag_small does not follow naming conventions: "modname:" or ":" prefix required 2016-03-17 10:44:46: ERROR[main
17:54 garywhite_ I tried bags mod, but won't run
17:55 Samson1 Okay,
17:55 Samson1 I will have a look for you :)
17:55 garywhite_ Thanks
17:55 everamzah you're missing an underscore, garywhite_
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17:56 garywhite_ Hang on...I mistyped
17:56 everamzah you typed all that?
17:56 Out`Of`Control pastebin?
17:56 everamzah i would have just pasted it :>
17:56 Samson1 garywhite_, I would recommend speaking to Krock about it :)
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17:56 Samson1 They know more then me :)
17:56 garywhite Better
17:56 Out`Of`Control garywhite: use pastebin or something similar
17:57 garywhite Use what?
17:57 everamzah it was only one line, isn't that ok?
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17:57 garywhite Here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/Y1ug0GyT
17:58 everamzah garywhite: again, you're missing an underscore
17:58 everamzah it's not unifiedinventory
17:58 garywhite Ohhh...
17:58 everamzah :D
17:59 Samson1 No,
17:59 Samson1 It not :D
17:59 garywhite I'll be darned!
18:00 garywhite Thanks so much guys
18:00 Samson1 garywhite, That's all right :)
18:00 garywhite I gtg
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18:25 Fritz2 hello
18:25 Void7 hi :)
18:26 Fritz2 hi too :) Could you post here your custom minetest menu?
18:27 Void7 i did already
18:27 Fritz2 when?
18:27 Void7 http://pastebin.com/DgV3bmmz
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18:29 Fritz2 that page report me that the document for one i'm looking for doesn't exits
18:29 Fritz2 the one*
18:31 everamzah here's my mockup: http://i.imgur.com/PATsG1H.png (haha)
18:31 Void7 ah
18:31 Fritz2 ueh
18:32 Void7 http://pastebin.com/q8mTLBcj: copy into builtin/mainmenu/init.lua
18:32 Void7 i gtg now, bye!
18:32 everamzah i will, thanks
18:32 everamzah bb
18:33 Fritz2 same as before XD
18:33 everamzah aw it's gone.  i would like to try yours.  iirc it was the one with the profiles?
18:34 Fritz2 (IRC log test)
18:35 everamzah Void7: it might be worthwhile to fork minetest on github and share these changes as you go
18:35 Fritz2 i think he is afk now
18:35 everamzah that's ok, i don't mind
18:36 everamzah how are you Fritz2 ?  did you figure out how to place seeds automatically?
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18:36 Fritz2 ehm no xD
18:37 Niebieski Hey guys, anyone have seen this before ? https://youtu.be/nm0POwEtiqE
18:37 everamzah farming:seed_cotton is a craftitem that places a node, i think.  didn't consider that before
18:39 Fritz2 the node is farming:farming_cotton_x, right?
18:39 everamzah i don't know offhand, but that sounds right
18:40 Fritz2 so i'll need to redefine that node and make it replace automaticly a cotton seed, right?
18:40 everamzah i would think replicating its behavior would be all that's required
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18:41 everamzah when you dig cotton, do whatever farming:seed_cotton does on_place_node
18:41 everamzah or something
18:41 everamzah you see i cannot tell you how to do it, because i do not know.  maybe there is a hint there, however
18:41 Fritz2 um
18:42 * Fritz2 thinks
18:44 Fritz2 ok if i add a function after_dig or on_dig at the farming:cotton_seed node it will not works
18:45 everamzah farming:seed_cotton is not the node that you dig, or even a node at all.  if i'm not mistaken, it is a craftitem
18:45 everamzah this craftitem then places the actual seed when you rightclick on soil, for example
18:45 Fritz2 but if i add that function in the growing cycle mabye it'll works
18:45 Fritz2 no it is a node
18:46 Fritz2 farming:cotton its a craftitem
18:46 everamzah cotton is the dropped 'string' as it used to be named
18:46 everamzah now aliased to cotton
18:46 Fritz2 yes
18:47 everamzah skimming quickly, it appears farming.place_seed may be all you need
18:47 everamzah look in farming/api.lua
18:47 Fritz2 that's what i was near to write xD
18:48 everamzah :)  i hope it works out for you
18:48 Fritz2 so do i
18:48 Fritz2 lets look that file
18:51 Fritz2 minetest.register_craftitem(":" .. mname .. ":" .. pname, {
18:51 Fritz2 description = pname:gsub("^%l", string.upper),
18:51 Fritz2 inventory_image = mname .. "_" .. pname .. ".png",
18:51 Fritz2 what is this?
18:51 everamzah there are multiple growth stages, so i believe that's what that is
18:55 Fritz2 ok i think that i get a way
18:56 Fritz2 could you rewrite the on_place function, please?
18:58 everamzah it was psuedo-code
18:58 everamzah pseudo
18:58 everamzah i don't even remember what i wrote ha
18:59 Fritz2 lol
18:59 everamzah i'm afk now Fritz2 good luck to you
18:59 Fritz2 ok thanks
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19:19 Fritz2 !c 3000*8989
19:19 MinetestBot 26967000
19:21 Fritz2 !c hello
19:21 MinetestBot NameError: name 'hello' is not defined
19:22 Fritz2 !c A*B
19:22 MinetestBot NameError: name 'A' is not defined
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20:07 Void7 hi, i'm back
20:32 Fixer !c 2**1000
20:32 MinetestBot 10715086071862673209484250490600018105614048​11705533607443750388370351051124936122493198​37881569585812759467291755314682518714528569​23140435984577574698574803934567774824230985​42107460506237114187795418215304647498358194​12673987675591655439460770629145711964776865​42167660429831652624386837205668069376
20:32 Fixer ok, will stop
20:39 nrzkt !c 2**15400
20:39 MinetestBot 727667913788185423997390633068357783440410938101​880687452809370267286488088365100028206546706738​377059958854172471144269086558030719217289511055​966304774310276094103125318568600809090112948338​891629929488840526192176831287082253805515839386​533008562658171829099919986634804931602576189478​893812265409573484106874237544278423408478458356​752549341215216784521550266052807419036455922797​10252888714203873228122280200845975445046211011
20:39 nrzkt !c 2**15400000
20:39 MinetestBot nrzkt: Took to long to calculate
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20:45 Out`Of`Control Void7: did you run voidepixel server?
20:45 Void7 no
20:45 Void7 gtg
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21:08 Mati^1 Hi All
21:08 Mati^1 I am looking for admin
21:09 Dragonop What server?
21:09 Mati^1 it is about RBA!!!
21:09 Mati^1 RealBadAngel !
21:09 Dragonop Ah... I see
21:10 sofar hi Mati^1
21:11 Mati^1 it is conscious. Unfortunately, his brain does not recognize anyone
21:11 Mati^1 sorry but my englich not good beter deutsch
21:11 Mati^1 or polnish
21:11 sofar deutsch ist ok, Ich kan das ubersetzen
21:12 Mati^1 OK! sorar
21:13 Dragonop Those are both good and bad news... is it permanent?
21:13 Mati^1 ist das so das Maciek ich wach, also Er liebt aber er kann keine leute, kann jemand erkennen
21:13 sofar quite likely, yes, but only time will tell
21:13 Mati^1 Er redet mit keine jemand
21:13 sofar "he's awake and walking, but doesn't recognize anyone"
21:13 sofar "he doesn't speak with anyone"
21:14 sfan5 sofar: s/walking/alive/ ?
21:14 Mati^1 gestern wa Kasia bei im und er hat Sie nicht erkennt
21:14 sofar liebt oder laupt?
21:14 sofar lauft*
21:14 Fritigern liebt = lebt
21:14 Mati^1 Er dreht das kopf in andere richtung
21:14 sfan5 ich würde auf "lebt" tippen
21:14 sofar lebt, ok
21:14 Mati^1 Liebt Er ist Wach
21:15 sofar ok, so he's lying in the hospital bed
21:15 Mati^1 aber Gehim ist who aderes
21:15 Mati^1 das ist das problem
21:15 sofar est war schon drei wochen heute, nicht?
21:15 Mati^1 ja genau
21:16 Mati^1 drei wichen aber wach ist der schön fast eine woche
21:16 Mati^1 er erkent keine jemanden
21:17 Mati^1 heute hatte eine Studie, Leider wird Lieben aber wie eine >Gemüse
21:18 Mati^1 Er braucht  benötigen Rehabilitation
21:18 sofar right, he will need rehab and pt
21:19 Calinou what happened to RBA?
21:19 Fritigern translation: it's been three weeks since his stroke, and he's been awake for almost a week now. He does not recognise anyone. Today a study was performed and he will be unfortunately living like a vegetable
21:19 Calinou :|
21:19 Fritigern This is what I got from it
21:19 sofar heart attack, collapsed
21:20 Calinou je suis RBA, I guess
21:20 sofar resussitated but didn't regain consciousness for the first 2 weeks.
21:21 Dragonop Oh man... :(
21:21 nrzkt Calinou, this "je suis" mode in France is just stupid. You are Calinou and you have empathy for him
21:22 nrzkt send him a kiss from me Mati^1
21:22 nrzkt too many minetest PR
21:23 Dragonop Is it possible that he will remember something if you use certain words with him, that might trigger his brain?
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21:23 sofar Dragonop: most likely he's had permanent brain damage, which isn't something you can undo
21:23 sofar he'll most likely have to learn how to walk, talk, everything
21:24 Dragonop That sucks, at least he's alive.
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21:29 rubenwardy Mati^1, this is sad. I give him and you my wishes. I hope he gets better.
21:32 Dragonop Mati^1, good luck for him and you, hope he gets well soon.
21:45 FreeFull Fritigern: Recovery is still possible
21:54 Calinou 4,000 link karma on reddit!
21:56 Fritigern FreeFull: Where did you get that? Mati said "Leider wird Lieben aber wie eine >Gemüse", which means "he will unfortunately live like a vegetable" (Mati uses "lieben" when he means "leben")
21:57 FreeFull I haven't read the german
21:57 Fritigern Don;t get me wrong, I want RBA to make a full recovery, but Mati's words seems to take away all hope of that.
21:57 FreeFull I just mean that it's possible to still recover from a stroke, even if initial prognoses is grim
21:58 FreeFull We'll just have to hope
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21:59 Fritigern Well, I assumed it was a stroke, because RBA had remained in a coma for 2 weeks, but it turned out to have been a heart attack. The result is still brain damage though :-(
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22:00 * twoelk would rather go with when there is life then there is hope
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22:03 Fixer sofar, i've read it could be just amnesia after coma, it can repair with time, and if he is walking already that is very good
22:04 sofar he's not walking
22:04 sofar that was my translation mistake
22:06 Fixer damned
22:07 Fixer sofar, but he is reacting to people?
22:07 Fritigern In recap: RBA is alive, but does not speak and does not recognise anyone.
22:07 Fixer amnesia
22:07 Fritigern When he had visitors, he turned his head away from them
22:07 twoelk iirc he needed to be reanimated and the brain was without oxygen for some time
22:07 Fixer right
22:08 Mati^1 but er have visitor in poland
22:09 twoelk but then again the brain is capable of wonderfull stuff - at least sometimes
22:09 Mati^1 I do not recognize anyone
22:09 Fixer just needs some time
22:09 Mati^1 He does not know what his name
22:09 twoelk where was RBA in hospital? in Torun? near Gdansk?
22:09 Fixer if he is conscious, that is very good
22:10 Mati^1 Torun
22:10 Fixer amnesia will go away in some time
22:10 Dragonop In most cases amnesia is temporary, doesn't matters how bad it is, and permanent amnesia is rare.
22:11 Mati^1 we have hope with a pass,
22:11 Mati^1 today had a study
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22:11 twoelk bypass in the brain?
22:11 Mati^1 which showed the will plant
22:12 Mati^1 sorry google translator :(
22:12 twoelk no problem
22:13 Mati^1 Heute hat er alle möglich nachforschungen. Alle leider war nicht so Gut
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22:13 Mati^1 Er Liebt aber so wie eine kleine kind
22:14 Fixer no wait, plant is when impossible to detect if he has a conscissness
22:14 sofar figure of speaking
22:14 Fixer but he has and turns his head, it is much better
22:14 Dragonop That's good, it means that he remembers his childhood
22:14 sofar he doesn't remember his childhood
22:15 sofar he is basically behaving like a newborn baby
22:15 Fixer ok
22:15 Dragonop Ah, well that's bad.
22:15 sofar he has limited to no skills, etc.
22:15 Dragonop Shouldn't he remember habits and that kind of stuff?
22:15 Fixer but he can gain the back
22:15 Fixer them*
22:16 sofar Dragonop: he may, but with brain damage due to oxygen lack you could lose most if not all skills, including simple body movement
22:16 sofar the fact that he turns his head is encouraging
22:16 Fixer yeah
22:19 Mati^1 ich hoffe das auch das Er dreht ich sich, aber artze sag was anderes und
22:20 Fixer google translate sucks
22:20 Mati^1 das haupt figure Onkel sagt das Er geht zum hospitz :(
22:21 Mati^1 ist jemand der kann polnich?
22:21 Mati^1 mowi ktos po polsku??
22:21 Mati^1 Übersetzen ?
22:21 Mati^1 kurwa scheisse :D
22:21 Fixer Mati^1, i can kinda read it (from Ukraine)
22:22 Mati^1 Russich kann ich auch aber nicht schreiben ;(
22:22 Mati^1 OKAY ich schreibe auf polnisch
22:23 Mati^1 Maciek jest przytomny, widzi, slyszy, nie reaguje na swoje imie.
22:23 Fixer ok
22:23 Mati^1 nie poznaje nikogo, nie wie gdzie jest.
22:23 Fixer ok
22:24 Mati^1 nie reaguje na znaki lekarzy.
22:24 Mati^1 caly czas jest pod kroplowka
22:24 Fixer hmm
22:25 Mati^1 ma apetyt ale nie moze jesc, jeszcze nie moze.
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22:25 Fixer ok
22:25 Mati^1 byl u niego kuzyn nie poznal go, by u niego jego najblizszy wujek tez go nie poznal.
22:25 Mati^1 Kasia byla wczoraj
22:25 Fixer ok
22:25 Mati^1 ale kiedy mowila do niego
22:26 Mati^1 Maciek to ja Kasia odwracal glowie nic nie powiedzial
22:26 Mati^1 to juz jest ponad tydzien jak jest przytomny,
22:26 Mati^1 lekarze dzis roblili mu badania bardzo dokladne
22:26 Mati^1 niestety
22:27 Mati^1 jak oni to powiedzili zostanie jak roslina, bedzie jadl, pil mowil ale nie wroci do tego stanu ktory
22:27 Mati^1 byl przed zawalem serca
22:28 Mati^1 moze byc tak ze chwila, jakis symptom i wroci w ciagu chwili a moze byc tak ze wcale sie nie obudzi
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22:29 Mati^1 Fixer?
22:29 Fixer ok, some words don't understand
22:29 Mati^1 ponial :)
22:30 Mati^1 das ist eine schwerige moment, Für im selbst
22:30 sofar google translate does a reasonable job on it
22:30 cth_ to nie brzmi za dobrze :(
22:30 Mati^1 tak
22:30 Fixer Mati^1, thanks I understand 95% of it
22:30 Mati^1 bardzo zle,
22:30 Mati^1 okay
22:31 Mati^1 I will try to drive, next week
22:32 Mati^1 I have a lot of work, my wife is sick, but I will try to drive
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22:33 twoelk sad sad sad ...
22:33 Mati^1 Byłemu u wujasa, Maciek otworzył oczy ale kontaktu z nim nie
22:33 Mati^1 ma,lekarka mówi że trzeba czekać ale rokowania są słabe:(
22:33 Mati^1 --
22:33 Mati^1 Best regards,
22:33 Mati^1 Wuderior                            mailto:wuderior@o2.pl
22:33 Mati^1 was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
22:34 sofar ouch
22:34 Fixer i forgot to ask if he reacts to pain
22:34 Dragonop no way
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22:34 Mati^1 Byłemu u wujasa, Maciek otworzył oczy ale kontaktu z nim nie
22:34 Mati^1 ma,lekarka mówi że trzeba czekać ale rokowania są słabe:(
22:34 Mati^1 --
22:34 Mati^1 Best regards,
22:34 Mati^1 Wuderior                            mailto:wuderior@o2.pl
22:34 Mati^1 was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
22:35 Dragonop holy, can somebody disconnect that bot?
22:35 twoelk someone kick minetest bot for just now
22:35 Calinou ShadowBot is kicking, not MinetestBot
22:35 ShadowBot Calinou: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command).
22:36 twoelk oops - should have read
22:36 Fixer does not react to doctor, but can see and hear, how is that?
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22:37 Mati^1 sorry
22:38 * Megaf testing/using Hexchat because Debian Unstable and Experimental no longer have XChat, only Hexchat =/
22:38 Megaf So colourful
22:38 Fixer Mati^1, can he move? react to touch?
22:40 twoelk probably has 'light in the eyes reflex' but not much else
22:40 sofar Megaf: hexchat is the successor to xchat, well-maintained
22:41 Calinou Megaf, it's a good thing, XChat has security issues by now
22:42 Fixer Mati^1, reaguje na dotyk? ręce nogi porusza? (google translate)
22:44 Mati^1 not to touch anything he looks at you
22:46 Mati^1 sorry but im whaitg for answear from poland too
22:47 Fixer ok
22:47 Fixer hope for the best
22:49 Mati^1 er dreht seine kopf hin und hier aber, keine antwort :(
22:50 Mati^1 mam nadzieje ze jak mnie zobaczy to zareaguje.
22:50 Mati^1 chcialbym jak najszybciej tam pojechac :/
22:50 Megaf sofar, I know that, it's working well so far
22:50 Fixer ok
22:51 Mati^1 hand and foot does not move
22:51 Mati^1 These messages have now from Kasia
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22:53 cth_ Mati^1 zastanawiam się tylko jak to się stało, chorował wcześniej na serce? ile ma lat?
22:53 Mati^1 Maciek ma 43lata tyle co ja, to jest moj najleprzy przyjaciel
22:54 Mati^1 urodzilismy sie w tym samym dniu 14.02.1973
22:54 Mati^1 ja tez mam na imie Maciek tak jak Maciek Kasatkin.
22:54 sofar cth_: he had issues before, was taking medication I think
22:54 Mati^1 znamy sie 26lat
22:54 Mati^1 ponad
22:55 Mati^1 od ponad roku Maciek wiedzial ze jest chory na serce
22:55 Mati^1 ale niedbal nic a nic o lekarstwa czy lekarzy
22:55 cth_ ehh, nawet trudno mi sobie wyobrazić jaka to musi być ciężka sytuacja Tobie i jego rodzinie :(
22:56 Mati^1 dla mnie? to jest moj brat zodjakalny blizniak.
22:56 Mati^1 znam go lepiej niz jego rodzina
22:56 Mati^1 mieszkalismy razem
22:56 Mati^1 wiele lat
22:57 Mati^1 we wloclawku i w berlinie
22:57 cth_ domyślam się, że lepiej, rodzinie wielu rzeczy się nie mówi, przyjaciołom tak
22:57 Mati^1 dokladnie
22:58 Mati^1 to jest wiecej jak bym stracil brata, osobe ktora szanowalem i brak mi slow
22:58 Mati^1 ostatno plakalem caly wieczor sorry ale nie bede pisal
22:58 Mati^1 ostatnia sobote plakalem jak dziecko
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23:00 cth_ kurcze, wiesz, nawet nie wiem co powiedzieć
23:01 Mati^1 wiesz jak sie poznalismy?
23:03 Mati^1 chodzilismy do tego samego liceum wieczorowego, w sobote jak zawsze na handel na gielde do warszawy, gielde na grzybowska komputerowa i jak wracalismy to sie zapytalem jego a on mnie kiedy mamy urodziny on mi mowi ze 14 lutego ja mowie ze tez on pyta ktory rok ja mowie ze 73 on tez
23:03 Mati^1 i tak minelo ponad 26lat
23:03 Mati^1 wspolna 18
23:04 cth_ wow...
23:04 Mati^1 i inne opijanie :D nie no wymiekam
23:06 cth_ tak naprawde znacie się dłużej, niż ja mam lat, więc nawet ciężko mi sobie wyobrazić taką przyjaźń
23:08 cth_ wiesz, może to naiwne tak twierdzić, ale ważne że żyje i trzeba być dobrej myśli, cokolwiek by lekarze mówili, cuda się zdarzają
23:11 Mati^1 oby obys mial racje, ja wiem ze on o siebie nidbal,a tez zaniedbalem wiele zeczy, mam nadzieje ze mnie pozna ze pozna fotografie ktore mam przygotowane dla niego ze ta klepka sie troche przestawi.
23:12 Mati^1 chyba nie przezywalem smierci mojego ojca tak jak przezywam jego odejscie w niepamiec jego samego, dziwne ale nie wiem jak nie mozna nic nie pamietac.
23:12 Mati^1 nic a nic.
23:16 cth_ może po prostu potrzebuje czasu, nie jestem lekażem, ale myślę, że mimo wszystko jest zbyt wcześnie, żeby tracić nadzieję, przecież to dopiero niecały tydzień odkąd się wybudził (o ile dobrze przeczytałem)
23:17 Mati^1 Zycze CI zebys poznal takiego przyjaciela, w zle i bardzo dobre chwile
23:18 * sofar afk, will be back online later from home
23:20 Mati^1 moze potrafisz to przetlumaczyc na angieslki dla forum tutaj,
23:21 Mati^1 ale dla Macka sa bardzo zle rokowania, zbyt dlugo byl reanimowany ponad 30min. nie wiadomo ile byl nieprzytomny 2 czy 5minut.
23:21 Mati^1 ja znam bardzo dobrze niemiecki ;)
23:22 cth_ chodzi o to co pisaliśmy po polsku?
23:22 Mati^1 dzis mial badania, bardzo szczegolwe jego mozg za bardzo zbyt bardzo dlugo byl niedotleniny
23:23 Mati^1 tak dla forum tutaj, napisz moze cos wiecej
23:23 Mati^1 ja mowie dobrze po ang. ale nie umiem pisac :D
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23:27 Mati^1 Best regards...... :(
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