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00:18 Fixer made simple house in a glacier: https://imgur.com/5cccXw0
00:21 est31 simple?
00:21 est31 :)
00:21 Fixer yes, simple
00:22 Fixer people can do much better
00:22 Fixer i have bad creativity
00:22 est31 its enough to survive the ice age
00:22 Fixer what is nice is a biiig ocean with this glacier and tiny entry into the house
00:22 Fixer nothing around
00:25 kaadmy nice Fixer!
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00:29 Fixer also, huge forests allow to build treehouses, maybe i will try smth like that later
00:30 Fixer new steel ladder looks nice and can be used in decorative cases
00:36 Fixer i've seen oceans as deep as -63 in valleys mg (not sure for other mapgens), impossible to reach the buttom without apple aids, ascension can be made quickly via boat
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00:54 Fixer rubenwardy, what is the command to look output of mod_profiler?
00:54 rubenwardy /save_mod_profile
00:54 rubenwardy it outputs to stdout
00:54 rubenwardy so to debug.txt
00:55 rubenwardy command def is in builtin/game/commands.lua or something
00:55 rubenwardy whatever the file is that contains all the other commands
00:55 Fixer interesting
00:55 Fixer thank you
01:04 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/TOWB38B.png
01:05 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/c5f4hrp.png infamous Y=63
01:07 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/K5OGWCW.png brilliant view
01:09 kaadmy Fixer: 1st and 3rd are nice ;)
01:10 Fixer good niigh
01:10 Fixer t
01:10 kaadmy gn
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03:58 Tuxfuk hello
04:28 nm0i Hai
04:36 kaadmy Tuxfuk, you may want to change your name :)
04:36 kaadmy g'night in my timezone!
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04:48 Tuxfuk why?
04:48 Tuxfuk this hasl always been my name
04:48 Tuxfuk what's wrong with it?
04:57 lambda-11235 Tuxfuk: Do you really not know?
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05:16 Tuxfuk lambda-11235: what's wrong with it?
05:24 nm0i It probably causes some butthurt among fanboys of particular os.
05:25 sofar minetest is aiming to be PG, including it's IRC channel
05:28 nm0i Elinvention: that's just the way to check whether certain compiller options were passed to gcc. Only way to be *certain* platform specific instructions are used is to disassemble... or to become gcc expert >.>
05:30 sofar plus, it doesn't say anything about code being optimized that certain instructions are present
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05:32 lambda-11235 Tuxfuk: The last three letters spell a cuss word. The first three the linux mascot's name.
05:33 Tuxfuk oh
05:33 Tuxfuk i see how one could see that
05:33 Tuxfuk hmmm
05:33 sofar change it to fukwin and nobody cares
05:33 sofar that wasn't serious
05:33 Tuxfuk it's actually supposed to represent my home town in the uk
05:34 Tuxfuk which is why none of it is capitalized
05:34 sofar tuxf, UK?
05:35 Tuxfuk if i were to do two words such as linus torvald, it'd be LinusTorvald
05:35 Tuxfuk no lol fleetwood
05:36 nm0i Tuxf_uk, mayhaps.
05:36 Tuxfuk that's dumb
05:37 Tuxfuk then there'd have to be an underscore after the x
05:37 Tuxfuk it looks stupid
05:39 sofar uktuxf
05:39 nm0i pwgen -A0
05:39 * nm0i hides
05:39 Tuxfuk again, looks incredibly stupid
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06:35 turd can someone tell me how to make my server keep inventory when player dies?
06:36 turd not bones
06:42 Hijiri disable bones mod
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14:05 edakiri what are the ways to start a fire other than lava or TNT?
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15:25 Out`Of`Control edakiri: mobs that shoot fireball
15:25 edakiri That would be Out`Of`Control.  Any items?
15:25 edakiri I just want to start fires some times without blowing things up.
15:26 Out`Of`Control try lava
15:26 edakiri Notice also, how if you start a fire in the jungle, it consumes all of the jungle in your region. Also, trees can never grow as dense as the mapgen makes them.
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15:33 MinetestBot [git] kilbith -> minetest/minetest_game: Change steel ladder sounds + fix/add missing recipes 676822d https://git.io/vaGGO (2016-03-11T15:28:13Z)
15:33 MinetestBot [git] red-001@users.noreply.github.com -> minetest/minetest_game: Add an on_burn callback. a5ad307 https://git.io/vaGG3 (2016-03-11T15:27:57Z)
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16:26 everamzah https://youtu.be/uLZyPHfNg3E  <- sprint mod inside hunger mod https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=14182
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18:00 everamzah did anyone see nametagged mobs show up on minimap as player markers?!
18:00 everamzah i just see this now, whoa
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18:01 Krock hi
18:02 everamzah hi!
18:03 everamzah http://i.imgur.com/g9ouqe0.png
18:07 Krock \o/ infinite red dots to make the minimap invisible with some abuse
18:08 everamzah haha
18:09 sofar why not just black and red wool
18:09 everamzah black wool is easy to get because black dye comes from coal?
18:09 everamzah in case flowers are too far?  or
18:11 sofar the player marker is red with a black outline, right?
18:11 everamzah oh geez i didn't know wth u were on about
18:12 everamzah ye sure but it's a circle
18:12 everamzah it's a set size, too, the circle no matter the zoom out, hmm
18:13 everamzah i thought you were talking about what colors to require in order to make a bed in MTG haha
18:18 Fixer "60 fps on PC confirmed"
18:18 Fixer so much bs
18:18 Krock I like Lua - helped me to complete homework. When excel isn't the favourite solution...
18:18 Fixer that was for granted for decades, and not it is a feature??????????
18:18 Fixer now*
18:18 Krock 60 fps is definitely a feature
18:19 Fixer 99% of my games run at any fps
18:19 Fixer except project igi
18:19 Fixer but that one is 15 year old with ~30 fps cap
18:19 Krock here too.. where "any fps" is usually between 5 and 30
18:19 kaadmy :)
18:20 Fixer my videocard gives me 60-100 and beyond, but that "60 fps such wow such much" is annoying, result of console bullshitery on PC
18:22 sofar my monitor caps at 60fps
18:23 sofar but, the difference between 58 and 60 is noticable
18:23 sofar A while back I recorded some videos and capped minetest at 30
18:23 sofar noticed that I've been playing at 30 for a while now
18:23 Fixer my is 75
18:24 Fixer why should i play with 30 fps cap, because some console mor-ns have performance problems?
18:24 Fixer not my problem
18:25 sofar I play at 1600p (2560x1600)
18:25 Fixer "NEW developer's bullshit: Dying Light locked at 30 fps to "reduce input lag". Be prepaired for new nonsense agruments by peasants. (imgur.com)"
18:25 Fixer LOL
18:25 sofar that's a ton more pixels
18:25 sofar yes arbitrary fps caps are nonsense
18:25 sofar but console gaming isn't gaming
18:26 sofar it's basically interactive netflix
18:26 Fixer low fps does have big input lag, and locking it to 30 does not solve anything
18:26 Fixer increased fps does
18:29 Fixer what is even more amazing that some people don't see the difference, but difference 24 fps vs 60 or even 100 is huuuuge
18:29 Fixer 24 is just slow bullshit barely playable and eyes start to bleed
18:30 Fixer and it will be good if you don't have a headache after playing with such low fps
18:32 kaadmy 30 fps for me is still barely playable
18:32 kaadmy 40-50 fps is even a little jittery
18:32 Fixer "I currently play Republic Commando on my netbook at about 15 fps with no problems. SUre, it looks somewhat choppy, but perfectly playable."
18:32 Fixer LOL
18:32 kaadmy about 100 is "easy"
18:32 Fixer 100 is like swimming in the water, feels so good
18:32 Fixer and relaxing
18:32 kaadmy input becomes much more responsive and easier to aim at around >60
18:32 Fixer yes
18:33 kaadmy while 15 is like swimming in chunky crap :)
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18:34 Fixer you can torture people with it
18:35 kaadmy yup
18:42 Fixer "Shinji Mikami and the team at Tango designed The Evil Within to be played at 30 fps and to utilize an aspect ratio of 2.35:1 for all platforms."
18:42 Fixer this is evil
18:43 Fixer we made a shitty port from console to PC, deal with it
18:43 Fixer and give us money
18:45 Fixer "I think letterboxing is a valid artistic choice."
18:46 Calinou vignette letterbox chromatic aberration blur!
18:47 Fixer I want to lock Crysis to 30FPS, how can i do that?
18:47 Fixer OH GOD WHY.png
18:48 sofar well like I said, if he's having trouble with fps flipping between 35 and 55fps, then setting it at 30 may be better
18:50 Fixer in a games that are not coded by monkeys there are usually fps_max thing that you can change
18:50 Fixer to your liking
18:50 Fixer maybe 300 fps is too high and you want to have 144fps, no problem
18:51 Fixer but they try to say: hey! We made a really crappy console port, and spent 0 hours on optimizations or implementing "Graphics Settings page", so fuck you, that is why %)
18:53 Fixer and console sheep is just... no need for 60fps, i'm perfectly fine with 30 or even 15fps :} that elitist bastard pc gamers
18:54 Calinou I'm fine with 5 SPF
18:54 Calinou seconds per frame
18:54 sofar I prefer SPF 30 or higher, I don't burn easily, but it's just easier to only apply once
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18:57 Fixer i guess to really enjoy console gameplay progress and all the best features I do really need to downgrade to that PIII 650MHz with that excellent Riva TNT Vanta, that will give best`est cinematic experience!
19:19 Fixer Calinou, 0.640 fps should be perfect for everybody
19:22 Fixer hmm
19:22 Fixer "Wow what a difference in the feel of the game it feels so much smoother on 60 for, like night and day. I now understand why 60fps is something so many want. Being able to compare on the fly like that really hits it home."
19:22 Fixer "But you lose that cinematic look."
19:22 Fixer that is on actual forum
19:23 Fixer and I thought eastern europeans are mazo
19:24 Krock riva TNT was a great graphics card
19:24 Fixer ._. !
19:25 Krock ._.?
19:26 Fixer i need to take that PC back
19:26 Out`Of`Control why not half frame per second?
19:27 Out`Of`Control in 2 sec you get full frame
19:27 Fixer What's next? Telling us that to get sound we'll have to type in "SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 T3"?
19:27 Fixer LOLOLOLOL
19:27 Fixer So true
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19:28 Calinou press Alt+F4 for sound
19:28 kaadmy ^ Calinou seems to work >:}
19:30 Fixer https://forums.geforce.com/default/to​pic/834894/should-i-blame-nvidia-or-c​dprojectred-for-this-piece-of-crap-/
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19:50 kaeza greetings
19:51 kaeza GitHub added "reactions". nice
19:53 redblade is there a !seen here?
19:53 redblade for users on irc
19:54 redblade @seen garywhite
19:54 kaeza !seen redblade
19:54 MinetestBot kaeza: redblade was last seen at 2016-03-11 19:54:11 UTC on #minetest
19:54 redblade !seen garywhite
19:54 MinetestBot redblade: garywhite was last seen at 2016-03-08 04:08:23 UTC on #minetest
19:54 redblade .seen garywhite
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20:09 Calinou kaeza, at least there's +1/-1
20:09 Calinou although sometimes my reaction is :suspect: or :trollface: :)
20:10 kaeza heh
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20:33 Fixer Croteam Open-Sources The Serious Engine
20:33 Fixer interesting
20:34 Calinou it's very old
20:34 Calinou uses Direct3D 8
20:34 Calinou currently doesn't have GNU/Linux support
20:35 Fixer ahhh :(
20:35 Fixer i do love their Serious Sam titles
20:38 Fixer amount of kills is brutal
20:38 Fixer iirc i got 1300 or so kills at end of the game
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20:42 Fixer github is turning into social network?
20:45 WookieWarlock Is it?
20:51 kaeza it isn't "turning". it was already
20:52 Fixer http://www.reaxxion.com/wp-content/​uploads/2015/01/B7U3cChCQAEYaZu.jpg
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21:05 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/2lRgHc3.png %)
21:08 Calinou GNU/Linux gaming master race?
21:08 Calinou wow, ubuntu12_32, Mesa drivers
21:15 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Documentation: Clarify global and mapgen-specific mapgen flags 6f32507 https://git.io/vaZ4T (2016-03-11T21:09:59Z)
21:15 MinetestBot [git] sofar -> minetest/minetest: Introduce "protection_bypass" privilege. f627ef3 https://git.io/vaZ4k (2016-03-11T21:09:53Z)
21:18 Fixer Calinou, such much
21:19 Fixer Calinou, Debian GNU/Linux master race and filthy windows peasants
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21:19 sofar Calinou: are you going to maintain maptools yourself or are you leaving it up to minetest-mods?
21:20 Calinou you can maintain it :p
21:21 sofar i figured, but doesnt hurt to ask ;)
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21:47 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7WTDZhofso lol
21:48 sfan5 !tite
21:48 sfan5 !title
21:48 MinetestBot sfan5: Console peasants be like - YouTube
21:51 sofar I don't think a lot of people understand this, but console gamers are really quite a different demography than PC gamers
21:52 sofar there's a lot of kids with non-technical parents, older people who have given up on learning computers, people who don't have time to play 40 hours a week etc.
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22:14 Dragonop is there a way to kick a player and make it automatically connect to a different server/port?
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22:17 sofar not without a modified client
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22:18 Dragonop Ah, I see, thanks sofar, it would be a nice feature to have
22:19 sofar I'd be very much interested in such a feature
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22:23 Dragonop It would enable having different subgames or "dimensions" in one server, that could be interesting
22:32 sofar a secondary problem to solve then is the problem of authentication credentials
22:32 sofar right now it's hard to share those between servers
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22:34 redblade hi
22:34 redblade quickly....how do i punch something with worlde
22:34 redblade dit
22:34 redblade to mark areas
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22:35 redblade need to know fast i hope someone's here
22:35 alket redblade, worledit ?
22:35 redblade yes
22:35 redblade punch one area and punch another how do i do it
22:35 redblade what's the command for punching
22:35 alket redblade, you can open worldedit in inventory
22:35 alket then select Set Areas
22:35 redblade come on i'm dealing with timeouts and family is bugging me
22:35 redblade what's the command to set areas
22:36 redblade i need the command to select the areas for the box
22:36 alket redblade, do you see a World icon in inventory ?
22:36 redblade i installed the god damn thing i need the command
22:36 redblade i forgot the command
22:36 redblade it begins with two slashes
22:37 alket //pos1
22:39 alket redblade, https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-Wo​rldEdit/blob/master/ChatCommands.md
22:43 redblade oh thank you so much
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23:06 MinetestBot [git] orwell96 -> minetest/minetest: Fix ask_reconnect_on_crash option being ignored 0d2df73 https://git.io/vaZyO (2016-03-11T23:43:37+01:00)
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23:27 Hijiri oh my god
23:27 Hijiri someone selling 7.2 * 10^39 beds on my server
23:28 Hijiri I didn't even realize ItemStacks have limited size
23:28 Hijiri What is the max value?
23:29 Fixer are you serious?
23:30 Hijiri yes
23:30 Hijiri I didn't check if the amount was too high, apparently if it gets too high it wraps to empty or something
23:30 Hijiri so when it checks if it's in the player's inventory it succeeds
23:30 Fixer damn cheaters
23:31 Hijiri I will patch it and then delete the bad orders
23:31 Fritigern Players suck
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23:47 Tuxfuk Hello
23:48 Fixer damn bug on my screen, and that is march
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23:49 Tuxfuk Fixer: what's up?
23:49 Fixer good
23:49 Fixer blowing the bugs away from my screen
23:50 Tuxfuk bugs?
23:50 Fixer flying bugs
23:50 Tuxfuk oh
23:50 Tuxfuk get some vinegar in a bottle if it's gnats

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