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IRC log for #minetest, 2016-03-08

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00:08 Fixer hmm
00:12 Fixer what time is it?
00:16 nm0i It depends...
00:17 Fixer it is compile time!
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01:37 WookieWarlock Uh, how's it going?
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04:08 garywhite Hello?
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09:06 afflatus minetest-dev 3ce6642 just FTB on Debian Testing - undefined reference to `Json::Value::operator=(Json::Value const&) - http://paste.debian.net/413099/
09:06 afflatus What changed yesterday?
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09:14 afflatus This may be a change in my build env as I upgraded the system before building -  I'm using the same build options that usually work fine.
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09:21 afflatus I guess something to do with 725cb4e
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09:43 afflatus Ah no - same result if I reset to d494733
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09:57 afflatus Sometimes I think it's my brain that needs sandboxing :D
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11:21 yyt16384 afflatus: are you building with bundled jsoncpp or system jsoncpp?
11:22 yyt16384 the latest jsoncpp won't work
11:43 afflatus system
11:43 afflatus Thank you yyt16384
11:45 afflatus So should I remove -DJSON_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/include/jsoncpp from the build invocation?
11:45 afflatus I see - -DENABLE_SYSTEM_JSONCPP=1 should be =0
11:45 afflatus Got it :)
11:47 afflatus remove both
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12:03 afflatus Built target minetestserver - Yay!
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12:09 XeonSquared just had to have the right incantation
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12:10 afflatus Exactly
12:10 afflatus you should always be careful what you wish for ;)
12:11 everamzah yyt16384: i just compiled master on a machine and placed chest very fast.  i wonder if something changed.  compiling master for server now to see if issue vanished
12:11 XeonSquared tell me about it
12:12 XeonSquared I'm currently compiling xorg on an 800Mhz PowerPC box
12:12 everamzah mm powerpc
12:12 XeonSquared had to do recent gcc first because FreeBSD comes with 4.2 and it needs like 4.8 or better
12:12 XeonSquared PowerlessPC
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12:14 everamzah issue has not vanished.  both machines are debian stretch.  i'm about to reinstall my system but will revert for now instead
12:15 everamzah oh you wanted some1 to test jeija's pr
12:16 yyt16384 everamzah: i only tested with singleplayer
12:16 everamzah i have no tested with singleplayer but i've heard it's not supposed to make a difference
12:17 everamzah i never touch that tab
12:17 everamzah bad tab, bad
12:17 afflatus lol
12:17 yyt16384 server lags probably affects the chance to trigger the bug
12:18 everamzah the only thing i tested was minetest->server->start world
12:18 everamzah and 2)
12:18 everamzah minetestserver, then minetest->client->connect local
12:18 everamzah both were consistent.  i dunno about singleplayer
12:18 yyt16384 i never played on servers :)
12:19 everamzah it was a test on one machine, connecting to itself.  isn't this what happens with singleplayer anyway?  i thought i read it's still two threads
12:20 everamzah do you use f7 a lot?  have you ever seen the player model? :D
12:20 yyt16384 never used f7
12:20 everamzah wow, so you never seen a player model in person
12:21 yyt16384 actually i used it once, but i was making a subgame at that time which didn't have the textures
12:22 everamzah oohh.  well there are mods that rely on the player model, now that i think of it
12:22 everamzah come to think of it, it would be easy to add an npc to minetest_game
12:23 yyt16384 i think singleplayer uses a slightly different way to start the server
12:23 yyt16384 but it shouldn't matter here
12:24 everamzah i've always used server tab to play singleplayer
12:24 everamzah because my name is not singleplayer
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12:25 yyt16384 i actually want to use the server tab now, but i don't know how to rename the player
12:25 everamzah try in the world dir
12:25 everamzah go in players subdirectory, and rename singleplayer to ur desired name, perhaps
12:26 yyt16384 but i assume that won't work for owners stored in node meta
12:26 everamzah then start server/world with the new name
12:26 everamzah correct, there are mods to modify it
12:26 everamzah Owned by singleplayer
12:26 everamzah d'oh!
12:49 everamzah yyt16384: well i'll be a sugar snap pea!  that seems to work
12:52 everamzah the worry is, others don't have this problem.  and myself i noted earlier about how current master seemed to not have this issue on another machine.  it's wild
12:56 afflatus everamzah: mobs_redo has npcs
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12:57 afflatus Although they're not very complex :p
12:57 everamzah yes and they use character.b3d i believe
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13:00 afflatus yes they do
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13:16 diemartin mornings
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14:30 Fixer ugh, looks like my notebook has died
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14:41 FranckDago Hi their
14:41 FranckDago I need to help
14:41 FranckDago I've got a method that make an API call
14:42 FranckDago I want to make sure my method make the call
14:43 FranckDago I tried Minitest::Mock but it does not work
14:44 FranckDago I just switch from Rspec to Minitest. This was quite simple in Rspec. Can figure it out in Minitest :/
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14:50 Fixer https://twitter.com/DeepDrumpf
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15:12 sofar FranckDago: minitest != minetest
15:13 kaadmy minitest is 2d
15:13 kaadmy or minicraft?
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16:06 diemartin alsi, their != there :p
16:07 diemartin also, even
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16:30 Fixer o.O
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16:44 WookieWarlock Yo
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16:58 WookieWarlock Well, how's it goin' irc? We don't keep this channel up for nothing xD
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17:00 Open_Future Hi, in coordinates 16,2,123 is the two the Z coordinate in minetest?
17:00 sofar no, it's XYZ
17:00 sofar 2 is up (Y)
17:00 Open_Future what I mean is.....does the second number in this case refer to the z up and down
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17:01 sofar it refers to the vertical up (Y)
17:01 Megaf 0,100,0 where 100 is 100 metesrs above seal lever Open_Future
17:01 Megaf meters*
17:01 Open_Future so x is right, z is left and y is up?
17:01 sofar X and Z are horizontal
17:01 Megaf Open_Future, what is Open Future about?
17:01 Megaf Is it an organization?
17:02 Open_Future Philosophy of life
17:03 Megaf oh, ok
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17:31 WookieWarlock Uh, bye?
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18:44 rubenwardy My app to manage minetest mods now has searching and descriptions in the mod store: https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/27nLATR6.png
18:44 rubenwardy Also now uses material design
18:57 Calinou yay for Material Design
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19:11 Krock In 2 years, everybody will hate the material design because everybody's going to use it in their websites
19:15 rom1504 why
19:16 Krock overused
19:16 rom1504 like c++ then ?
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19:40 Fixer only windows 2000 classic theme, only hardcore
19:42 Fixer I miss that days, UI was consistent enough for windows, it was simple, yet usable (especially after dos/3.11), after that it went down the "Fisher Price" road and never recovered
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19:43 Fixer now everyone tries to invent new bat-s--t insane UI in every program, and OS developers are nuts with UI rewrites that screw users over
19:43 Fixer every time
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19:48 Krock rom1504, C++ isn't something visible by default, so you can many different programs. Using the material design style might get a bit boring if it looks the same way on every website
19:48 Krock Fixer, the only thing I like about the newer menubar is that you can move applications to the left or right as you want
19:50 Krock I love contradictions because I hate them
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19:51 rom1504 Krock: ok, next comparison : like voxel games then ?
19:52 Krock rom1504, oh yeah. this is just another boring minecrap ripoff
19:52 rom1504 it's not because something is used at many places that it gets bad or boring I think
19:52 rom1504 Krock: voxel is the kind of game
19:52 rom1504 minetest is voxel
19:52 Krock it's all a minecrap ripoff!!!
19:53 Krock Just kidding. I know what you mean :)
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20:12 Calinou I haven't noticed any Material Design overuse on websites personally
20:13 Calinou even though there are at least 3 MD frameworks out there: http://getmdl.io/ - http://materializecss.com/ - https://fezvrasta.github.io/bootstrap-material-design/
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20:35 Fixer best design http://www.slackware.com/ /me runs
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20:40 kaadmy Fixer: love that site :}
20:40 kaadmy so much like material design!!!!!
20:47 swift110 hey all
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23:15 rubenwardy W/ModService: Downloading https://github.com/sofar/crops/archive/master.zip
23:15 rubenwardy W/SRR: Install failed for Crops: Failed to download: 404 File not found.
23:15 rubenwardy damn you, minetest-mods
23:18 rubenwardy sofar https://github.com/sofar/minetest-mods/archive/master.zip
23:18 rubenwardy in https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=11795
23:18 swift110 hey all
23:22 rubenwardy minetest mod manager on tablets: https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/27G0o8rt.png
23:27 rubenwardy I wish more mods were hosting using Github and had a description.txt in their root
23:27 rubenwardy then they'd all have descriptions :(
23:31 sofar rubenwardy: ahh, missed one URL :)
23:32 sofar rubenwardy: fixed, ty
23:44 everamzah http://i.imgur.com/hQj8uNq.png

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