Time Nick Message 00:06 afflatus Is there a way of cropping the map db to say, 200 node radius? I'm looking for an external python script or something to directly manipulate the db 00:08 afflatus I'm getting fairly constant freeze ups, which I guess is memory overloads or something. MT is pretty shit about giving useful error messages and running gdb is out of the question when it's busy 00:15 afflatus I'm at breaking point with this. I may as well just go shout at the sky ... 00:27 Taoki Hey there. Is there any news on RealBadAngel? It's been over a week since his heart attack... someone must know something. 00:28 sofar no news. 00:28 kaadmy Taoki: heart attack? 00:29 sofar that's pretty much all we know. 00:29 Taoki kaadmy: He had a heart attack about 10 days ago. If what I heard is correct, it's a miracle he was saved at the scene. We heard he might be in a coma however... 00:29 Taoki Erm, to clarify: That he was "still unconscious" after the attack. If he hasn't responded in so long, that's a suspicion. 00:31 Dragonop :/ 00:49 FreeFull That doesn't sound good ): 01:16 basil60 Hi wondering whether the minetest server should have a world folder inside the bin folder? 01:17 sofar if you built with -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1, then that can happen I think 01:17 basil60 sofar: hi again, can I safely remove it? 01:18 sofar why not back it up first? 01:19 basil60 sofar: minetest starts Ok, but doesn't have the inventory I once had. just trying to sort out what's going on 01:20 sofar you just lost players/basil60 01:21 basil60 sofar: different interface for inventory, range in inv 01:24 basil60 sofar: on the minetest client, it doesn't show the mods I've installed on the server. Is that normal? If I click the mods tab - it used to show all the mods I'd installed. Restarted server, still not showing the extensive inv that came with carbone-ng 01:24 sofar mods are a server-side thing 01:24 sofar the client doesn't need or use them 01:25 basil60 sofar: the client used to show them that's all 01:25 sofar then you had downloaded a copy of them 01:25 sofar did you not reinstall your client? 01:25 sofar we also switched your server to game = minetest, remember? 01:26 basil60 sofar: no, I'm using a portable version now. Make a difference? 01:26 sofar you don't need mods on your client, so 01:26 basil60 sofar: fixed worlds.mt 01:27 basil60 sofar: and restarted with different command line 01:33 bashterm hello? 01:33 sofar yes? 01:36 nm0i no 01:40 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Default: New jungletree_top texture 13f80fafb https://git.io/v2NAf (152016-03-06T01:32:11Z) 01:40 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kilbith -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Add steel ladder 137f31787 https://git.io/v2NAJ (152016-03-06T01:31:36Z) 01:40 MinetestBot 02[git] 04red-001 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Fix markdown formating in `game_api.txt`. 1368f5740 https://git.io/v2NAU (152016-03-06T01:30:58Z) 01:40 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Default/craftitems: Fix whitespace and code style issues 136c6cc21 https://git.io/v2NAT (152016-03-06T01:30:40Z) 01:41 basil60 sofar: any thoughts why my inv would be back to basic, rather than the upgraded style I had before, with about 12 pages of in items? No changes made to the server. 01:43 basil60 sofar: when I start tje client, it broadcasts, theis is the minimal development test game.... 01:44 basil60 sofar: yet I start it with "./minetestserver --gameid carbone-ng --worldname world" 01:45 basil60 sofar: world.mt has gameid = carbone-ng 01:51 sofar rename the game folder to "carbone" and use "carbone" everywhere instead of "carbone-ng" 01:52 basil60 sofar: ok 01:55 bashterm hello? 01:56 bashterm I was wondering if there was anything that a programmer with little experience could do to contribute to the project. 01:58 sofar bashterm: plenty. Check out github.com/minetest/minetest and github.com/minetest/minetest_game 02:02 basil60 sofar: all good now 02:02 basil60 sofar: do biomes work out of minetest vanilla, or do they need to be installed as a mod? 02:08 sofar they're made my mapgens, they're in the default game 02:09 basil60 sofar: I don't play much. A school wants to use my server - do some farming. Will they have weather affect their crops? 02:18 basil60 sofar: thanks for all your help 02:20 basil60 Can the cycle of days etc be sped up on the minetest server? 02:31 srifqi Of course, basil60. Just set time_speed in your minetest.conf. (default 72, higher value = faster) 02:32 srifqi 72 = 20min. 360 = 4min. 1 = 24hr. 02:55 kaadmy srifqi: cycle in minutes = (24*60)/time_speed 05:25 bashterm hello. 05:26 bashterm I'm a beginner-go-intermediate programmer with experience in java looking to write a bit of practical code, instead of many exercises. I was wondering if there was any simple code that needed to be written for the minetest project at my level. thanks! 05:36 sofar bashterm: did you look at the minetest git project? 05:36 sofar bashterm: there's plenty to do, favor any type of specific project? 05:37 bashterm ive checked out the project on github but I don't really know where to start. 05:38 sofar ah, well, I suggest perhaps getting familiar with the design of minetest first then - are you interested in perhaps writing mod code (lua) or core code (c++) ? 05:40 bashterm probably start with mod code. I've experimented with modding in the past 05:43 sofar I maintain a large mod collection with a group at github.com/minetest-mods 05:43 bashterm ok. I'll take a look 05:43 sofar they're very diverse, feel free to nose around and if you see something you might want to code up, ask me 05:47 bashterm The crops mod interests me. What code needs to be implemented there> 05:48 bashterm *?] 05:51 sofar hmmm that's a good question 05:51 sofar it's one of my own mods 05:53 sofar I don't have a TODO list for it, or do I? 05:53 bashterm ah. 05:53 bashterm there wasn't one in the files 05:53 sofar no, neither are there any bugs open 05:56 sofar I was thinking of making the humidity part optional, so it can be disabled with a config flag 05:56 bashterm ok. I'll try that out. 05:56 sofar do you know how github works? 05:57 bashterm yeah. I actually have a few projects of my own going. 05:59 bashterm by humidity do you mean hydration? 06:00 sofar so the parts that would become optional are the hygrometer, the watering can, and the code that dries out plants 06:00 sofar hydration/humidity yes 06:04 bashterm ok. It may take me a while. I'm still not the most experienced with lua 07:09 GeHa How to activate textures in new version ? 07:12 sofar use the 'texturepacks' tab in the main menu 07:19 GeHa wwwow thanks, I will try 07:34 GeHa where does it look for them ? now its empty 07:35 sofar you have to download them 07:35 sofar https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=4 07:37 GeHa i know its .minetest but the three folders base pack textures makes me ewww where :) 07:37 sofar ~/.minetest/textures/ 07:41 GeHa Thank you very much. I had old minetest home dir so the textures folder was not obvious for me. 08:32 everamzah sneak jumping up a mgv7 cave with sprint: https://youtu.be/p99iqNQaOsY?t=50s 13:06 srifqi Anybody knows how ObjectRef:moveto() and Player:get_look_*() works? 13:08 srifqi At least, how to use it. 14:51 afflatus If I'm running mods from worldmods dir inside the world directory what effect do settings in world.mt have? 14:52 afflatus Should I actually remove the references to those mods entirely? 14:56 twoelk afflatus, if you have the same mod active from different folders don't you get a mod conflict message? 14:57 * twoelk might have understood the question wrong 14:59 afflatus This is running a server as a dedicated user - I'm fairly sure it doesn't have access to any other mods 14:59 Megaf now, that's a long song and good for working https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqESkzvh1f0 15:00 afflatus Although I've been struggling with this for the past few days, so I may be missing something completely obvious due to brain death :D 15:00 afflatus But actually I don't think so 15:01 afflatus I think mods in worldmods get loaded regardless of world.mt settings 15:01 twoelk I always thought so 15:01 afflatus I'm just trying to find the place where that is documented :/ 15:02 twoelk mods in worldfolder are sort of hardcoded to the map 15:02 afflatus Right, so if I want to disle them I'm going to actually have to remove them from the folder 15:02 afflatus disable* 15:03 twoelk btw afflatus, did you see the links I posted on your server forum thread? 15:03 * afflatus looks 15:04 afflatus Oh brilliant tyvm 15:04 twoelk I think only those in the mods folder in the root folder can be toggled, all others in game and worldfolder can not 15:04 afflatus :) 15:06 afflatus yep that's roughly what I thought ok 15:06 afflatus I'm going to have look at lag01's script - I'll test it on a backup first, naturally. 15:08 afflatus twoelk: much appreciated thanks 15:09 twoelk do fly around to watch how mapgen kicks in again - it sometimes surprises with wierd effcts 15:11 afflatus Yes I've experienced a lot of lightbugs after using recover.py in the past 15:36 cd2 hi :D 15:41 kaadmy hi 17:05 afflatus So I can more or less blank world.mt as I'm not running any mods outside the game or world dir. Probably won't make much difference, but it will be cleaner. 17:11 afflatus My co-admin has just confirmed that the crashes / freezes happen when people are exploring / building 2k+ from spawn or mining -2k and deeper. So it may be worth using worldedge as a workaround until I can afford a more powerful server box. 17:14 twoelk note that worldedge teleports people to the other side 17:14 afflatus Does it?? That could be quite funny :) 17:15 twoelk I also use stay_inside especially for those that fall, can't remember where I got it from though 17:15 afflatus I'm sure I can come up with some in-game justification for that :D 17:15 afflatus I'll look it up thx 17:15 twoelk building roads along the axis through origin gives a nice endless warp impression 17:17 afflatus Well it's better than the groundhog day effect caused by reverting db corruption 17:18 twoelk my roman map is limited to +-500 and has a nice central road cross. the stay inside catches those that go too deep before they get caught by worldedge 17:21 * afflatus grumbles about lag01's python formatting, somewhat pointlessly 17:27 twoelk https://github.com/HybridDog/stay_inside <- there it is 17:29 afflatus Most excellent, thank you :) 17:31 afflatus ok, later ... 18:10 kaeza o/ 18:11 sfan5 \o 18:12 Obani ~o~ 18:13 sofar hello 18:16 Megaf (o_o)/ 18:16 Megaf The Prodigy - Invaders Must Die 18:16 Megaf nice melody 18:16 Megaf so, I'm working on my website listening to this playlist for concentration, so far it has been working very well. https://play.spotify.com/user/johanbrook/playlist/2mtlhuFVOFMn6Ho3JmrLc2 18:17 Megaf Obani, Haven't I seen you on my server once? 18:18 Megaf kaeza, How are things in your land? Hows the weather? 18:18 kaeza shit, and nice :) 18:18 Megaf what is shit and what's nice? 18:19 kaeza things in your land -> shit, weather -> nice 18:19 sofar it's the same on the other side of the border ;) 18:20 Megaf kaeza, oh, well, ok 18:20 kaeza Megaf, how's it going over there? 18:21 Megaf kaeza, well, on the land I live things are ok... weather is cold and I'm trying to accept a 4 year relationship break up =/ 18:21 kaeza Megaf, oh, that sucks :/ 18:21 Megaf concentrating on my website now, will work as freelance while I don't get a proper job 18:22 Megaf I have one month to get money to pay the rent, otherwise bye bye this country and hello old country 18:22 Megaf s/get money/get job that gives enough money 18:23 Megaf I'm optimist anyways, I'm sure there's people in need for a person who knows stuff about computers, servers, gnu/linux, windows server or photography 18:24 Megaf kaeza, ^ 20:37 juraj_ hi, could i please ask question about minetest api and server performance ? 20:39 juraj_ what is the most resource consuming functions from globalstep, abm or after ? 20:40 est31 depends on the mods and what you do 20:40 sofar right 20:40 juraj_ do i save some performance using i.e. one globalstep functions with another functions inside of it 20:40 est31 there is a profiler somewhere 20:40 juraj_ or using more functions what are using separate abm, globalstep... 20:41 juraj_ i am spawning entities with abm 20:42 juraj_ but it seems after a time, the servers get laggy 20:42 juraj_ with too much abms ? 20:42 juraj_ not 100% sure about that though 20:42 juraj_ *too many 20:46 Calinou O_o 20:46 Calinou is this a known bug? 20:46 Calinou I'm in a state where I can't open console, open chat or open menu (Escape) 20:46 Calinou using latest Git 20:47 Calinou compiled like 20 minutes ago 20:47 Amaz That's happened to me several times Calinou 20:47 Calinou had to exit through alt+f4 20:47 est31 O.o 20:47 est31 you dont know how to reproduce do you 20:48 Calinou nope 20:48 Amaz It seems to occur randomly 20:48 Calinou it happened after a CTF match 21:09 Dragonop Talking about that, clicking on a formspec quickly a few times, near a button or something, will make the game stop, and crash 21:10 Guest65047 how come my nickname is registered ? 21:13 est31 Guest77835, do /msg NickServ info SaKeL 21:14 est31 Calinou, Amaz can you open inventory in that mode? 21:16 Calinou haven't tried, but I could open a chest 21:18 ssieb We've been running into an issue on my server where if you place a furnace or other object with a formspec, you can't open it until someone in the area reconnects or you go far enough away (I'm assuming it unloads the block) and then come back. 21:19 ssieb It doesn't happen every time, but often enough to be really annoying. 21:19 est31 hmm 21:19 est31 you arent the first person who reports this 21:19 est31 can you open an issue on the minetest issue tracker 21:20 est31 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues 21:20 ssieb No? I mentioned it yesterday in #minetest-dev. There have been others? 21:20 est31 ah it was you... 21:20 ssieb :-) 21:20 est31 mhh still worth a report 21:21 ssieb I would try to git bisect, but I guess I should setup another server to test it with because I don't know what effect running the server version backwards would do to an existing world. 21:21 everamzah ssieb: me too, and i've been reverting a specific commit every time i pull minetest because of it 21:21 ssieb everamzah: oh, that's handy then. What commit? 21:22 everamzah https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/e17fbb31d6db3e6d2d9b68f5793ad8b2146f7bcc 21:22 everamzah e17fbb31 21:22 est31 everamzah, file a bug if there is a problem with it lol 21:22 everamzah i was waiting to see if anyone else had this problem, or if it was just me 21:23 est31 i see 21:23 ssieb I just discovered it yesterday. 21:23 everamzah i've talked about it a number of times in this channel, -project, and -dev 21:23 everamzah now that i see 1 other person has this problem i will make an issue 21:23 everamzah i'm super curious, tho, whether his reverting that commit fixes his issue 21:26 ssieb hmm, definitely looks relevant 21:26 everamzah i made an issue, i hope it's not too confusing 21:26 everamzah afk 21:27 ssieb everamzah: number? 21:28 everamzah https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3821 21:28 ssieb I will test it. 21:44 rubenwardy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWjP77TztTQ 21:44 rubenwardy Portal has come to VR 21:48 est31 lol 22:08 sofar "oh, it's you" 22:09 sofar I should upload that to devopsreactions 22:15 est31 you shouldnt have said that word 22:15 est31 the gifs there are funny 22:25 bashterm Hello 22:26 bashterm Hello 22:31 sofar sup bashterm 22:31 bashterm Not much. How did the code look? 22:47 nolsen VOTE TRUMP 4 PREZ 22:48 rubenwardy lol 22:48 sofar bashterm: you never finished the PR 22:48 sofar bashterm: it takes 2 clicks to submit it 22:53 bashterm2 OK. I submitted the PR finally 22:57 est31 nolsen, only if the trump walll is built with air:air :) 22:57 bashterm est31 sounds good to me 22:58 nolsen They're bringing drugs 22:58 nolsen They're bringing crime 22:58 nolsen They're est31 22:58 nolsen And some, I assume are good people. 22:58 bashterm There will always be drugs and crime 22:58 est31 nolsen, you forgot the rapists 22:58 * nolsen builds a wall around est31's computer. 22:58 nolsen 600 mile wide wall 22:59 bashterm Interesting. I bet I can get through 22:59 Dragonop glitch through the wall 22:59 nolsen bashterm: You dam illegal immigrant, STOP TAKING OUR JEBS 22:59 nolsen HE TOK UOR JEWBS 22:59 nolsen JOBS* 22:59 bashterm Your jebs? I think jeb is fine 22:59 est31 hes out of the race 22:59 nolsen He tuk our jowbs 23:00 est31 because he had bad polls 23:00 bashterm And i'm unemployed 23:00 bashterm I like bernie tho 23:01 nolsen ... 23:01 nolsen Ew bernie 23:01 nolsen ew hillary 23:01 nolsen ew democrats 23:01 nolsen trump or rubio. 23:01 bashterm neither 23:01 bashterm I'm about that free software, free country, etc. 23:01 rubenwardy I can't tell if nolsen is being serious XD 23:02 bashterm Same 23:02 bashterm considering that he used the word 'ew' i think that he might be joking, but one can never be sure 23:02 nolsen rubenwardy: I am being serious. 23:02 Dragonop lmao 23:03 rubenwardy Lol 23:03 bashterm Ok. rotflol 23:03 est31 havent you heard 23:03 nolsen I heard 23:03 est31 trump himself uses h1b in his casinos 23:03 rubenwardy I suggest keeping political discussions out of a game IRC channel, and into somewhere like #politics 23:03 nolsen They built a wall around est31's house. 23:03 rubenwardy also, saw this link today: http://loser.com 23:03 est31 wow 23:04 bashterm i second rubenwardy's motion to move this discussion elsewhere 23:04 nolsen rubenwardy: whoever owns the domain is an imbecile. 23:04 Dragonop rubenwardy is right 23:04 est31 nolsen, you must sue him 23:04 nolsen No need. 23:04 nolsen I'll just build a wall 23:04 bashterm No, the domain is dedicated to an imbecile, not owned by that imbecile 23:04 nolsen around his fingers 23:04 bashterm nolsen, solutions. 23:04 rubenwardy Ok, he's definitely joking 23:04 nolsen Trump isn't an imbecile, and I'm not joking 23:05 nolsen The wall part yes. 23:05 nolsen I'm joking about the wall part 23:05 nolsen but yes, trump isn't an imbecile. 23:05 Dragonop b-but, he's racist! 23:05 bashterm How is trump anything but an imbecile? 23:05 rubenwardy oh god, it begins 23:06 bashterm I mean, think about all of his failed enterprises. 23:06 Dragonop lol, this is starting to turn into /pol/, better go to #politics 23:06 nolsen Dragonop: Anyone who calls him racist is either misled or misinformed, or an imbecile 23:06 bashterm Yes. I shall now abstain from all political discussion 23:06 bashterm Easy! 23:06 sofar ================================= all done now! ================================= 23:06 Dragonop thanks sofar, barrier is good 23:06 sofar what about those new steel door sounds? 23:07 nolsen Dragonop: Anyone who calls him racist is either misled or misinformed, or an imbecile 23:07 rubenwardy MT needs more sounds 23:07 est31 he built a trump wall to wall off the discussion about the trump wall 23:07 nolsen I broken the barrier 23:07 nolsen xD 23:07 bashterm nolsen, enough 23:07 nolsen xD 23:07 Dragonop okay, enough offtopic, let's talk about minetest 23:07 nolsen Minetest is too minimal 23:07 nolsen We need to build a wall on the site 23:08 nolsen It should keep the mexicans out. 23:08 Dragonop god dammit nolsen 23:08 bashterm really, this has gone to far 23:08 est31 nolsen, you can build much higher walls in minetest than in minecraft 23:08 bashterm true 23:08 nolsen est31: You can easily increase the maximum limit 23:08 nolsen or you should be able 23:08 bashterm Nope. It's not open source 23:08 est31 not in minecraft 23:08 nolsen Reverse engineer! 23:08 Dragonop that's really cool, it gives place to amazing buildings, Big3Force is building a 3000 nodes tall tower on Xanadu 23:08 nolsen mods! 23:09 est31 i have only seen one tower on xanadu 23:09 Dragonop let me get a screenshot 23:10 nolsen Look, is that an illegal immigrant? ^ 23:10 bashterm nolsen, pls no racism 23:10 nolsen drugs 23:10 nolsen drugs 23:10 nolsen drugs 23:11 Dragonop isn't it racist to instantly associate "illegal immigrant" with a racism? 23:11 rubenwardy ha 23:11 Dragonop with racism* 23:11 est31 no 23:11 est31 thats too much predjudice 23:12 est31 but not racism 23:13 Dragonop hm, I guess you are right, my bad 23:13 sofar bashterm: reviewed, gave you a lot of comments to work on 23:13 sofar bashterm: if you need help, please ask 23:13 Dragonop est31, here: https://forum.minetest.net/download/file.php?id=5172 23:14 yang2003 I think it nice 23:14 est31 thats on xanadu? 23:14 Dragonop yes 23:14 Dragonop really close from spawn, actually 23:14 est31 nice 23:43 Fixer I always wondered if that trully made with ms paint https://40.media.tumblr.com/ec46710ea3d98ce226e42d2cc46002a8/tumblr_o2eyctXSeJ1v33hszo1_1280.jpg 23:44 Fixer it feels like paint.exe but maybe that is just a mimic of paint.exe style 23:44 yang2003 .. 23:44 huang2003 ... 23:45 Fixer who would though that people will invent memes.. and draw them in paint.exe 23:47 Fixer or this one http://40.media.tumblr.com/46e05a24a42bd17442efe9b92019baad/tumblr_nzzjhgNIzv1v33hszo1_1280.png 23:47 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kilbith -> 03minetest/minetest: Settings Tab: Regroup dropdown datas in tables 1304e311a https://git.io/v2xRy (152016-03-06T23:42:21Z) 23:47 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Rui914 -> 03minetest/minetest: Faster insertion into table 1324e8b0a https://git.io/v2xRS (152016-03-06T23:42:04Z) 23:47 Fixer this is weird 23:49 Dragonop You can't hold sneak and close a trapdoor at the same time, this make the need to stop to close it when going down ladders with shift, is this intended? 23:55 Fixer Dragonop, never tried that, what is the use case? 23:56 Dragonop going down a ladder and closing the trapdor at the same time. Going down with sneak 23:59 huang2003 wow