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00:42 Topic for #minetest is now Welcome to #minetest, official Minetest channel | Latest version: 0.4.13 (2015-08-20) | Responses may take a while, be patient | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
00:43 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/LkaAssc.png
00:43 luizrpgluiz good :D
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00:43 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/eSTZ7JR.png
00:43 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/QtdWE6C.png
00:43 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/QBCncwa.png
00:43 Fixer i love that place
00:44 SanskritFritz Fixer: can we visit that? It's nice.
00:45 Fixer OldCoder Redcrab server
00:46 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/J1rmVO4.png
00:46 Fixer SanskritFritz, it is archived world at the moment, you can walk around on it
00:47 OldCoder Welcome!
00:47 OldCoder Fixer BTW the other channel logs are online. See the topic for the link.
00:47 Fixer seen it, ty
00:48 OldCoder Fixer, I will also be recreating Silvercrab based on Redcrab
00:48 OldCoder So there will be a buildable copy
00:48 Fixer nice!
00:48 Fixer will it have the same game set? or silver one?
00:48 OldCoder Fixer, it will be as close to Redcrab as feasible for a buildable world
00:48 SanskritFritz Fixer: thanks
00:48 OldCoder Need to look at trees growing ABM again
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01:24 stormchaser3000 VanessaE, are you there?
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01:28 stormchaser3000 someone please help
01:29 stormchaser3000 i am hosting a server for someone
01:29 stormchaser3000 and
01:29 stormchaser3000 the map got corrupted when i was trying to fix something
01:29 stormchaser3000 that didn't need fixing
01:29 stormchaser3000 of course i didn't know that at the time
01:29 stormchaser3000 and then i tried to fix the map
01:29 stormchaser3000 but failed and now everything is gone
01:31 Out`Of`Control did you made a backup?
01:31 stormchaser3000 no
01:31 stormchaser3000 i was about to ask how to keep regular backups
01:31 stormchaser3000 and how to make backups
01:32 Out`Of`Control always backup when you try to fix or do something with a map
01:33 Out`Of`Control what is the error? on start up
01:33 stormchaser3000 well there was an error
01:33 stormchaser3000 and i tried to fix it by replacing the missing files with empty ones
01:33 stormchaser3000 and then that worked
01:33 stormchaser3000 exept the whole map is gone
01:34 Out`Of`Control how?
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01:34 stormchaser3000 ?
01:35 stormchaser3000 well i started the server
01:35 Out`Of`Control how you replace missing file
01:35 stormchaser3000 and it worked
01:35 stormchaser3000 oh
01:35 stormchaser3000 openening nano and saving a blank file with the ldb extention in place of the missing one
01:35 stormchaser3000 ones*
01:36 Out`Of`Control uh
01:37 Out`Of`Control you can try revert what you did, but make a copy of your world/worldname
01:37 sofar forget backups. go for the darwin awards
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15:53 Topic for #minetest is now Welcome to #minetest, official Minetest channel | Latest version: 0.4.13 (2015-08-20) | Responses may take a while, be patient | Rules: http://wiki.minetest.net/IRC#Rules | Development: #minetest-dev | Server list: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
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16:50 Fixer ugh, black sh-- is out of place: http://www.3dnews.ru/assets/external/i​llustrations/2016/02/27/929107/02.jpg
16:51 everamzah who cares about that, those floppies and that telephone are amazing
16:52 everamzah wow awesome setup
16:52 everamzah it looks like it's in the middle of transitioning between old stuff and new stuff
16:53 everamzah oh and the desktop background, classic
16:54 everamzah oh man AOL! no way
16:54 Fixer everything is black now, those hipsters are ruined white, white is more nice for me, and yet that black-glossy-nazies forced it down my throat anyway, because... fy probably
16:54 everamzah it's unfortunate, really
16:54 everamzah i blame apple
16:54 Fixer apple uses white
16:54 everamzah i know, but they came out with multicolored fruit flavored computers, and everything changed
16:55 Fixer my walls are white and yet nazies keep pushing black, including keyboards
16:56 everamzah i guess i haven't been keeping up
16:56 Fixer found a white keyboard with hard luck, ... and it was piss of shit anyway :(
16:56 * everamzah looks around, notices every single thing is black
16:56 Fixer not a single white one
16:57 Fixer only positive side is black will not turn yellow after NN years
16:57 everamzah fortunately for me, i like black.  i had the first acer nettop, it was black and white unit, but came with a SUPER sweet compact all white chicklet keyboard
16:57 Fixer i do like black in notebooks for some strange reason
16:57 Fixer white becames dirty fast
16:58 Fixer black turns to grey with enough dirt
16:58 everamzah http://www.marauderzstuff.com/content/​binary/WindowsLiveWriter/Mycontinuedre​lationshipwithAcer_1D76/DSC07945.jpg
16:58 everamzah that one
16:58 Krock Fixer, but black overheats more easily if there's sun around
16:58 Fixer Krock, i have no direct sunlight on any black surfaces of those devices
16:59 Fixer notebooks are crap with heating anyway
16:59 Fixer slow overrated and price shit
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16:59 Fixer buy good PC and good monitor, mechanical keyboard and good mouse and be a god
17:00 Fixer let that android mazos suffer
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17:01 Fixer tapping with dirty hands on screen that is smaller than cheap portable soviet greyscale tv we had
17:01 everamzah how about that resolution, tho
17:01 Fixer eyes will suffer in both cases anyway
17:02 * everamzah NP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wY3LZ6Wh0yM
17:02 everamzah perhaps
17:03 Fixer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E2Pmd2lLPo smth like this
17:04 everamzah oh wow
17:04 everamzah impressive
17:05 Fixer now i'm not sure if it was soviet or later
17:05 Fixer but looked like this with different controls
17:06 Fixer and that one has colour
17:06 Fixer fancy
17:06 Fixer not sure how he connected it
17:06 Fixer and why
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17:42 FreeFull Fixer: You can still buy Model M keyboards
17:43 Fixer yeah, but it is pain in the as-
17:43 FreeFull They have "windows" and menu keys nowadays
17:46 Fixer i have white mitsumi classic keyboard from 200X, it is not mechanic, and yet it was pretty good, now it is impossible to find anything good, everything is shitty, shitty small keys, shitty spacing of Fs, shitty plastic, black everywhere, i wonder if one day they realised that stuff they were selling was too good for average fool and dumbed down it a lot
17:48 Fixer arrow keys moved into ctulhu knows where
17:51 Fixer i'm staying away fromn notebook-like keyboards... and yet I've seen smth looking classic from sven, looked closer, mother of ctulhu, that morons removed spaces between F keys, cramped to them volume control, childish like plastic, wtf was that?
17:51 Fixer people use glue to mark F5 and F9. WTF!?
17:52 Fixer why so hard not to make SHIT, that you already produced 10 years ago?
17:52 Fixer don't understand marketing of this day
17:56 everamzah i like small compact keyboards b/c i can type faster on them
17:56 everamzah (but i type with two fingers lol)
17:57 Fixer lol, that is slow
17:58 Fixer i can mostly type without looking
17:58 Fixer with some fingers
17:58 Fixer just needs some practice
17:58 Fixer i'm usually typing without looking anyway
17:59 Fixer there are some limited evidence, that good typers achieve better results on mechanical
17:59 Fixer model m is too outdated anyway
17:59 Fixer good as weapon though
17:59 Fixer with dat much weight
18:00 Fixer 3kg or so iirc
18:01 FreeFull I use all of my fingers
18:01 FreeFull Well, my right thumb doesn't get much use
18:01 FreeFull Other than for pressing spacebar
18:01 Fixer right
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18:10 lambda-11235 Off, if I don't limit the fps, then minetest starts occasionally getting stuck on a frame for a second.
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18:12 lambda-11235 * Odd
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19:32 foxz hi all
19:33 lambda-11235 foxz: Hello
19:35 foxz do u know a server with technic mod installed  ?
19:38 lambda-11235 foxz: Unfortunately I'm not very familiar with the different servers. Sorry, someone else might know.
19:38 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/2uSQyjo.gif
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19:54 foxz fixer: :)
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20:25 ShadowNinja foxz: What do you want SQLite3 for anyways?  You might not need it at all.
20:27 foxz ShadowNinja: I need it for my own mod
20:28 ShadowNinja foxz: For what purpose?  What kind of data do you have to store?
20:30 foxz I want a chest who can bring large qty of items
20:30 rubenwardy cool time lapses of pixel art: https://www.youtube.com/chan​nel/UCUfQURFJlu2EkDxDgkG1O7g
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20:31 foxz ShadowNinja: u can see mc mod AE2... I want port it into MT
20:33 ShadowNinja foxz: Well, you can probably use minetest.serialize for that.
20:35 foxz ShadowNinja: :/ I need make some request like select name,count(*) from items
20:36 ShadowNinja foxz: You can use Lua tables for that.
20:36 foxz ShadowNinja: yep, but, so, I need write many, many lines of code :)
20:37 ShadowNinja foxz: Interfacing with an SQLite3 database will take a lot of code too.
20:38 foxz ShadowNinja: maybe, but I know sql more lua
20:38 foxz more than lua
20:41 foxz ShadowNinja: oh... I haven't see it !!! I can use minetest.compress to save memory !!
20:42 ShadowNinja foxz: It won't save memory, but it will save disk space.
20:45 foxz u bet on it ?
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21:36 redblade hi
21:36 redblade i'm trying to set up a new server, but every time i try and set up the world, the admin account in the config is granted the default permissions rather than the admin permissions
21:37 redblade latest code just pulled
21:37 redblade replacing my terrarium server with a new creative server, less the buggy and dangerous mods
21:37 redblade privs i mean
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21:42 redblade and removal of the "default_privs" that i normally want gives the default "interact, shout" rather than the admin privs
21:43 redblade i recompiled once and deleted the worlds folder multiple times to try again
21:43 everamzah what does it say when u issue the command /admin?
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21:44 redblade the administrator of this server is .
21:44 everamzah then name is not set
21:44 everamzah (i assume)
21:45 everamzah what does `/set name` report? (if u can issue it)
21:46 Piggybear87 rubenwardy, I am looking at your modding page, and let me say, very very nice. I do have a question though, if you can help me out.
21:47 Piggybear87 Lol...
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21:47 redblade lol it looks like i did "name -" instead of "name ="
21:47 rubenwardy Piggybear87, sure
21:48 Piggybear87 With the physics override, how can I add it to an item? Such as a piece of armor.
21:48 rubenwardy when the armor is equiped, you'd need to set the override. When it's unequiped, you'd need to set the override. You also need to set it on login
21:49 rubenwardy basically make an update override function which looks at the armor a player has, and sets the according override
21:49 rubenwardy and then call that when they log in or when that equip something new
21:49 rubenwardy I don't know how the armor mod works, though
21:49 Piggybear87 Ok. I will try. Thanks.
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22:24 redblade btw the current git doesnt seem to be pulling in the locale directory
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22:25 everamzah place a couple chests and let me know if everything seems normal to you, while you're at it
22:25 everamzah pls & thx ^_^
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22:58 redblade is there something like /deleteblocks but actually clears blocks rather than regenerates them?
22:58 est31 redblade, you might be interested in worldedit
22:58 redblade because i did a /deleteblocks and it's generated a ton of trees from plantlife that i'm burning down
22:59 redblade est31: everyone keeps recommending me worldedit when it sounds like a security risk
22:59 redblade i've never used it, is it a separate program?
22:59 est31 no its a mdo
22:59 est31 mod*
23:01 redblade actually i think i'll log off and see what's been destroyed in a few hours
23:02 redblade but i dont want to become dependent on mods
23:02 redblade that was my mistake with the terrarium
23:02 redblade the experimental mapgen and pipeworks mods, namely
23:02 redblade and technic
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23:03 redblade but i'm trying to get a clear 0,0,0
23:04 redblade can worldedit easily be removed within a few hours and the game isn't messed up or filled with unknown blocks?
23:04 paramat sofar and all, possible spacex launch in 40mins
23:05 redblade what's spacex?
23:05 redblade some server doing something fun?
23:05 kaadmy redblade: private space flight company
23:05 redblade oh ok
23:06 kaadmy they're launching a rocket soon, less than an hour iirc
23:06 kaadmy http://www.spacex.com/
23:09 paramat they will attempt to land the 1st stage on a barge out at sea
23:10 Hijiri redblade: yes, you can remove worldedit without problems
23:11 est31 redblade, yes removing it is easy
23:11 est31 but only give trusted players the worldedit priv
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23:15 redblade will it add to lag and crash mobile users like all other mods?
23:15 redblade the more mods the slower and the mobile people crash
23:16 rubenwardy It's not the number of mods that make mobile users crash
23:16 rubenwardy it's the number of textures thus memory
23:17 rubenwardy and the network requirements
23:17 est31 textures and nodedef
23:20 redblade well this is one gigantic forest fire and i want to see what comes of it
23:22 redblade wait a minute the leaves are growing back
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23:22 redblade let me try a clearobjects and then i'll go find worldedit
23:25 redblade do you recomment 1.0 or github for a server using 0.4.13-dev
23:26 est31 github
23:28 redblade well it looks like clearobjects doesnt stop forest fires so i'll learn worledit
23:31 kaadmy redblade: fire is nodes and therefore won't be cleared with /clearobjects
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23:34 * Fixer tries to induce shadow bug without 3d clouds
23:36 redblade /deleteblocks is the same thing. how do i actually delete all blocks there without regenerating?
23:36 redblade "//"
23:37 est31 //set air:air
23:37 est31 or //set air
23:39 redblade this whole spawn point is covered in trees :(
23:39 redblade fire is supposed to destroy trees
23:39 est31 it does destroy
23:39 est31 just wait long enough
23:40 est31 listen to its pleasing sound and enjoy the reduced load
23:40 redblade and the trees are still growing :(
23:40 redblade how do i do it in 3d
23:41 est31 //set air ?
23:41 est31 do //pos1 at one corner //pos2 at the other
23:41 redblade but it doestn stop the trees fast enough
23:41 redblade i have an idea
23:42 redblade remove tiny and plantlife and get rid of the unknown objects with worledit
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23:47 ufa hi
23:48 ufa I'm having a hard time with Internet connections on my server
23:48 ufa Clients stays "loading media" forever
23:48 redblade hey this is fun :)
23:48 ufa does anyone knows about this issue?
23:49 ufa redblade: :(
23:51 redblade ufa: that happens to me sometimes but i just quit and try again
23:51 redblade very rarely though
23:51 ufa not for me, it is always
23:51 redblade a lot of times if there's lag in loading the server list it is slow, then i join and my screen is full of lua code
23:51 redblade is that the problem you're having?
23:52 ufa people cannot log on my server
23:52 ufa but they used to
23:52 ufa nowm they keep on loading media

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