Time Nick Message 01:03 Fixer oh boy, nights are soo bright 01:03 greeter where are you playing that nights are bright? :-P 01:07 LinuxGuy2020 Ok so I am trying Debian as my minetest server OS. No desktop environment so it stays fast on the Atom CPU this time. One question I have is does it matter what version of the server that I have running for other clients to connect to in the house? I have the latest dev version installed on all clients. And I dont see seperate server downloads on the website. 01:18 everamzah it doesn't matter if the clients are a different version, no. not by default, anyway. 01:18 everamzah there is a setting, strict_protocol_version_checking, which will restrict older clients from connecting, however. but that's off by default 01:34 LinuxGuy2020 ok cool thank you 02:25 Guest39276341526 It's me Ethan 02:25 Guest39276341526 Anyone there 02:26 Guest39276341526 if you are there say something 02:26 Guest39276341526 Kote are you there 02:27 Guest39276341526 Is anyone there please is anyone there 02:29 Guest39276341526 IS ANYONE THERE! 02:30 Guest39276341526 YTDYUTDHGFXHYGH GFS HFGYFDGHFGUFFYUDYDFGDYFTYTF POOP 02:31 VanessaE you're on the wrong network. 02:31 Guest39276341526 WHAT 02:32 Guest39276341526 WHERE IS EVERYONE 02:32 XeonSquared that was 02:32 XeonSquared something 02:33 VanessaE Guest39276341526, "ethan", don't piss me off. 02:33 VanessaE I am NOT in a good mood right now. 02:34 VanessaE you are on the wrong network. that's why you don't see any of the usual server players 02:34 Guest39276341526 Sorry I am going right now and I'm going on the right network 02:34 VanessaE you need webchat.inchra.net 02:42 uyfuyfxchckghcgj Cfc 02:49 uyfuyfxchckghcgj Anyone there 02:50 uyfuyfxchckghcgj JOJOS 02:50 uyfuyfxchckghcgj ZOZOS 02:50 uyfuyfxchckghcgj COCOS 02:50 uyfuyfxchckghcgj POPOS 02:50 XeonSquared what's with the random spammers today? 02:50 uyfuyfxchckghcgj SOSOS 02:51 uyfuyfxchckghcgj SORRY I CAN'T HELP MYSELF THAT MUCH 02:51 Emperor_Genshin seriously 02:51 * Emperor_Genshin pokes a Operator 02:52 uyfuyfxchckghcgj it's me Ethan 02:52 Emperor_Genshin oh noes 02:53 uyfuyfxchckghcgj Oh no the toilet my brother forgot to flush the toilet 02:53 Emperor_Genshin XeonSquared, this was the spammer from yesterday 02:54 uyfuyfxchckghcgj I don't do that anymore 02:54 uyfuyfxchckghcgj I quit 02:55 uyfuyfxchckghcgj I quited doing that 02:56 Emperor_Genshin http://memeshappen.com/media/created/oh-really--meme-10618.jpg 02:57 uyfuyfxchckghcgj http://IRC.minetest.ru/minetest/ 02:59 uyfuyfxchckghcgj degnevit 03:01 uyfuyfxchckghcgj http://webchat.freenode.net/ 03:01 * Emperor_Genshin pokes VanessaE 03:04 Emperor_Genshin Jeez, spammers during xmas =/ 03:04 Emperor_Genshin lol 03:39 STHGOM lovley preset 03:39 STHGOM lovely preset* :P 03:39 STHGOM augh 03:40 STHGOM present** 03:50 kaadmy LinuxGuy2020: if the server's version 0.4.13, clients need to be that version or higher. 03:52 kaadmy the network auth protocol's been changed in 0.4.13 05:05 slemonide I was thinking whether timezones mod will be possible. 05:07 slemonide I know it's possible to change players' sky textures, but how about lightning? 05:09 kaadmy lightning... maybe an entity that's animated to scale down in one frame? 05:30 slemonide that entity will create light? 05:30 kaadmy hmm, no it won' 05:30 kaadmy won't* 05:33 slemonide I think I just found a way to create awesome arbitrary landscapes using Weierstrass function. 05:35 kaadmy never heard of that name. 05:35 slemonide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weierstrass_function 05:36 slemonide https://neboard.me/media/images/1450928147774.png 05:36 slemonide In the average it takes one second to generate one chunk. 05:37 slemonide and no Perlin noise is used 05:37 slemonide and for now all nodes are set to snow, but I might add biomes later 05:59 slemonide https://neboard.me/media/images/1450929434662.png 07:16 sofar slemonide: * `minetest.get_mapgen_params()` Returns mapgen parameters, a table containing 07:16 sofar `mgname`, `seed`, `chunksize`, `water_level`, and `flags`. 07:22 slemonide sofar, thank you 07:22 slemonide It is not on the wiki, though. 07:22 sofar lua_api.txt has everything 07:22 sofar https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt 07:23 sofar if it's not in there, file a github issue :) 07:25 slemonide I am also confused by the integrated biomes system. If I would generate a biome from a mod, do I have to notify minetest about that somehow? 07:26 sofar if you export temperature and humitidy perlin noise params, other mods can use them using biome_lib 07:27 sofar you'll need to set_mapgen_params() afaik 07:28 sofar if you don't use perlin noise maps, all bets are off and you'll need to come up with your own decorations etc. for all of your biomes 07:29 slemonide ok 07:30 sofar you don't "have" to do anything, but don't expect e.g. "moretrees" or "farming_plus" to plant anything in landscapes you create 07:30 sofar this may be a problem for people attempting to make your landscapes into something playable 07:32 slemonide Well I might have to generate everything on my own. 07:37 slemonide So are there any bounds to the values the seed can take? 07:39 sofar I think it ends up being a 32 bit integer 07:40 slemonide ok 07:54 Krock Happy Christmas Eve, everybody! 07:55 Calinou Krock, 5 years ago, Minecraft players all had a cape. 07:55 Calinou I still remember it. 07:55 Calinou also on new years' eve 07:55 Krock Don't they always have a cape? 07:55 Calinou nope 07:55 Calinou only special people do now 07:55 Krock ah 08:36 slemonide What is better for a map generator: flattens or mountains? 08:42 Krock Doesn't matter as long it's under sea :P 08:43 Krock creative people prefer flat area and adventurers mountains.. so the best thing would be a mix of those 08:46 slemonide creative people can build in the sea 08:46 slemonide on ice, for instance 08:49 Krock underwater house! 08:55 slemonide In my map generator, sea can be 100 nodes deep. 09:30 slemonide If anybody wants to test my generator, connect to 108.63.255.199 09:32 Hijiri I can't connect 09:32 slemonide try now 09:33 slemonide I'll watch the logs 09:33 Hijiri failed again 09:33 Hijiri it timed out 09:33 slemonide hm 09:36 slemonide try again, I disabled most of the mods 09:37 Hijiri still can't connect 09:37 Hijiri port 30000? 09:38 slemonide 108.63.254.164:30000 09:38 Krock that's a different ip.. 09:38 slemonide I guess I gave the wrong address. 09:38 slemonide facepalm.png 09:39 Krock facepalm.svg ^ 09:48 slemonide I restarted server. 10:03 slemonide Krock, so I didn't use perlin noise at all 10:06 Krock slemonide, yeah, but what did you use then? 10:12 slemonide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weierstrass_function 10:12 slemonide this 10:12 slemonide I generated x and y planes with it 10:13 slemonide https://github.com/slemonide/gridgen/blob/master/gridgen.lua 10:13 slemonide here is the code 10:32 Krock uuh. Nice :) 10:35 paramat "it's me Ethan. Anyone there" spam once more and i'll ask you are banned from both channels 10:37 sfan5 ? 10:37 VanessaE sfan5: see about 8 hours ago. 10:38 VanessaE paramat: I already banned him from here at least, and he's on webchat so he can't speak in -dev anyway 10:38 sfan5 ah 10:45 ulla hi 10:46 ulla some ppl can hel me in my new mod 10:52 slemonide ulla, how? 10:55 ulla thi 10:55 ulla i have create a new mobs 10:56 ulla carnivore plant 10:56 ulla i have create mesh in blender and exporte in .oj 10:56 ulla obj 10:57 ulla whit movement 10:57 Krock dat grammar 10:57 ulla i have used mobs for him 10:58 ulla modify lavaflan.lua 10:58 ulla him work nice but no have movement 10:59 ulla i have insert in model directory .blend and .mtl too but no have movement 10:59 ulla 1 sorry for my english 10:59 paramat cool 11:01 slemonide what is your native language? 11:01 ulla t sorry i have movement no have animation 11:02 ulla titalian :-) 11:02 slemonide also, upload mod somewhere 11:02 LazyJ I have no experience with Blender but would using two images work (1. plant open, 2. plant closed)? 11:02 slemonide github, for example 11:03 ulla my mod is beta mesh 11:03 ulla :-) 11:19 ulla http://dropcanvas.com/f9db6 11:19 ulla hey 11:19 ulla this is linck of all my file 11:20 ulla tlol link 11:21 ulla slemonide? 11:42 Thomas-S bye 12:19 slemonide http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ 12:20 * everamzah chuckles 12:35 slemonide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDZu04v7_hc 12:48 Thomas-S hi 12:57 ulla ? 13:00 Fedmahn_Kassad hi 13:00 Fedmahn_Kassad i have truble 13:00 Fedmahn_Kassad >> === FATAL ERROR === 13:00 Fedmahn_Kassad >> Access violation (Exception 0xC0000005) at 0x69308310 13:00 Fedmahn_Kassad >> Saved dump to C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Рабочий стол\minetest-0.4.13\bin\..\minetest.dmp 13:02 Calinou Fedmahn_Kassad, put Minetest in a path containing only ASCII characters 13:03 Fedmahn_Kassad Ok. 13:10 Fixer Fedmahn_Kassad, and don't sit under Admin in Windows XP, that is just crazy 13:11 slemonide Fixer, maybe he uses VirtualBox. 13:11 Fedmahn_Kassad dont worry 13:11 Fedmahn_Kassad i do not keep millions 13:13 Fedmahn_Kassad but it stillnot working 13:18 Fedmahn_Kassad slemonide,no 14:00 Ingar might be the binary trying to access config files in a similar path 17:00 Thomas-S Bye. Merry Christmas! 17:07 Fedmahn_Kassad hi 17:08 Krock hi 17:08 Fedmahn_Kassad I need light survival server 17:08 Fedmahn_Kassad will anybody invite 18:11 kaadmy Fehm 19:21 alket Merry Christmas everyone 19:21 Emperor_Genshin Merry Chrismas 19:21 kaadmy Merry Christmas 19:23 Krock Merry Christmas Eve 19:33 Blekpug How do I get rid of a MyMineShaft shaft middle? I can't destroy/mine it with hand or pickaxe or sword. 19:44 Blekpug I may have irreversibly damaged my world with a misplaced immutable mineshaft. 19:45 Blekpug :~( 19:45 kaadmy did you make it unbreakable? 19:46 Blekpug kaadmy: i did not change it. https://donbatman.github.io/mymineshaft.html 19:48 kaadmy press F5 in game to enable debugging; what's it say the unbreakable node is? 19:50 Blekpug mymineshaft:shaft_middle2_default_tree 19:51 * Fixer found http://en.cataclysmdda.com/ 19:52 kaadmy try using a high level pick, like diamond or mese. 19:52 kaadmy it should be breakable 19:53 kaadmy diamond and mese shovels should work too 19:53 Blekpug Thanks. That did work. 19:53 Blekpug Diamond 19:53 kaadmy no problem 19:54 Fixer oh lol, mushspores will be disabled soon, better sell off my spores for huge money ^_^ 19:54 kaadmy lol 20:06 Blekpug I've come to the time with a chest nearly full of cobblestone and I think: It is perhaps time to build a castle. 20:13 Blekpug Does the scaffold wrench do anything besides change the appearance of the scaffold? 20:20 Blekpug It looks like for most cases, smelting with coal lumps is more fuel efficient that coal blocks. 20:20 Blekpug Because of fragmentation. You never burn less than 1 coal block at a time. 20:22 Gael-de-Sailly Hi 20:22 Gael-de-Sailly Merry Christmas!! 20:23 Blekpug Merry Yule! 20:23 kaadmy hi 20:24 * kaadmy 's only holiday is buy-stuff-o -sale-after-christmas :-) 20:25 Blekpug I wonder whether map generator v6 generates clay. There is apparently none on my map. I've been looking by sand under water. 20:26 kaadmy grep 'default:clay' ~/.minetest/worlds/[worldname]/map.sqlite 20:28 Gael-de-Sailly clay is generated as an ore IIRC 20:29 kaadmy not an ore; in mgv6 it's generated by hand lasti 20:29 kaadmy last time i checked 20:29 Gael-de-Sailly it's not in default/mapgen.lua? 20:29 Gael-de-Sailly claylike ore? 20:30 kaadmy i'm not sure 20:30 Blekpug There is a match. If it is there, it must me much scarcer than Mese. I cheated and flew the perimeter of (-1000,-1000)-(1000,1000) 20:30 Blekpug square 21:22 Fixer dict([('sape', 4139), ('guido', 4127), ('jack', 4098)]) 21:22 * Fixer facedesks 21:23 sfan5 !c e[0] for e in dict([('sape', 4139), ('guido', 4127), ('jack', 4098)]) 21:23 MinetestBot SyntaxError: invalid syntax (, line 1) 21:23 sfan5 ok python 21:25 paramat Blekpug all mapgens have identical ores, there is clay in mgv6, but blob ore was broken and was creating small partial blobs, fixed 18 sept, also blobs were too rare, were made more common on that day 21:27 Blekpug Thanks paramat. I have generated and play with Minetest 4.13. I see it was released August 20th 2015, so I suppose I need a newer Minetest if I want to find clay. 22:01 sofar whoa pilzadam is back from the dead 22:03 Blekpug If someone knows the commands to install packages to compile minetest on ArchLinux or Manjaro, please share. 22:09 exio4 Blekpug: I don't remember what you are talking about :P 22:11 kaadmy i think MT has had clay since 0.3.0, any version should work afaik 22:24 lemon Is there an easy way to show some rapidly changing info to the player? 22:24 OldCoder Hi 22:24 lemon Like height above the ground? 22:24 lemon hi OldCoder 22:24 OldCoder Hm 22:24 * OldCoder does not know if there is an API 22:25 OldCoder Could patch it into the core 22:25 OldCoder For the status screens 22:25 lemon There is this http://dev.minetest.net/HUD 22:25 OldCoder Yes 22:25 OldCoder Patch that? 22:26 lemon what do you mean by "patch that"? 22:26 exio4 I see 22:27 OldCoder Modify the mod? Give me something you need and I'll attempt it. 22:29 lemon I think it would be handy if there was an easy way to place messages like these: https://neboard.me/media/images/1450988942475.png 22:29 OldCoder R 22:30 OldCoder Could be done with an entity? 22:30 OldCoder How does the HUD work? 22:30 lemon That message was made by this mod https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=11265 22:31 OldCoder R 22:31 OldCoder Modify that mod, then? How may we be of assistance? 22:31 OldCoder Are you looking for tips on how to adapt the two mods 22:31 OldCoder for your purpose? 22:32 lemon I was asking whether there was a general method for adding on screen messages. 22:35 OldCoder lemon, if you mean a simple API that says "put message at XZ" 22:35 OldCoder as opposed to in the chat section 22:35 OldCoder or setting up special structures as HUD does 22:35 OldCoder I don't recall one 22:36 lemon ok 22:37 OldCoder Why not 22:37 OldCoder modify one of the two mods 22:37 OldCoder to make one? 22:40 lemon I might try that. 22:51 Blekpug Anyone who plays with the current dev mapgen, I would if you give me a simple seed, such as 0 or 1 and a location of clay, I am interested in seeing this legendary ore myself. 22:56 kaadmy it's in sand underwater. 23:00 Blekpug Thanks, but I know that much. 23:01 Blekpug I fly around and do not find it. 23:02 lemon use world edit 23:04 * Blekpug chuckles 23:05 Blekpug evil. 23:14 Blekpug I found clay! a little bit with seed 1 23:17 kaadmy foumd your "legendary ore"? 23:19 Blekpug -588,,173 23:37 Fixer legendary lol 23:37 Fixer it is everywhere in sand underwater 23:37 Fixer ._. 23:37 Fixer at least in 0.4.13-dev 23:38 Fixer it was fixed in -dev 23:38 Fixer just download modern builds 23:38 Blekpug in stable 0.4.13 package i had, it was not to be found. 23:39 Blekpug Mese was much easier to find. 23:40 Fixer it was rarer somewhat 23:48 lemon ASCII art in minetest https://neboard.me/media/images/1450993718417.png 23:50 lemon I tried displaying players' positions using HUD api and it turned to be a bit slow to update. 23:51 Jordach ohai lemon (lake?) 23:51 lemon what? 23:54 Jordach oh 23:54 Jordach i know someone with a similar name 23:55 lemon I see