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01:55 kaeza o/
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02:07 DI3HARD139 darn. needed to ask rubenwardy what the forceload mod is beneficial for
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06:30 wilkgr Umm....
06:31 wilkgr In singleplayer, it says "The server is probably running a different version of Minetest"
06:31 wilkgr Exact error: "ServerEnvironment::loadMeta(): EnvArgsEnd not found!"
06:31 wilkgr Any ideas?
06:33 wilkgr I am not minetest_game here, but my own game
06:34 wilkgr Hmmm....other worlds work...oh well
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06:57 kahrl wilkgr: I thought I removed that message about the server when in singleplayer mode, but apparently another dev accidentally reverted that change later
06:59 kahrl wilkgr: for the EnvArgsEnd message, see http://wiki.minetest.net/Troubleshooting#.E2.80.9CServerEnvironment::loadMeta​.28.29:_EnvArgsEnd_not_found.E2.80.9D
07:03 DI3HARD139 i know that issue
07:04 DI3HARD139 lemme copy and paste what to add to the a file
07:05 DI3HARD139 add: game_time = 15610596
07:05 DI3HARD139 time_of_day = 20172
07:05 DI3HARD139 EnvArgsEnd to the env_meta.txt file in the world's folder
07:07 DI3HARD139 If thats the env error that im thinking of
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07:38 wilkgr Sorry, I was afk.
07:38 wilkgr Thanks a lot kahrl and DI3HARD139
07:39 wilkgr Hey, I just realised. STK karts have Christmas hats.
07:43 yunfan does node's property 'sunlight_propagates = true' means that plant wont propagate on other light source?
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08:39 wilkgr yunfan - I think that light goes through
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09:24 Gael-de-Sailly Hi
09:24 RealBadAngel hi
09:24 greeter greetings
09:27 * VanessaE peeks in
09:28 * Krock peeks VanessaE
09:28 VanessaE hi.
09:28 Krock hi
09:29 greeter it's a greet party
09:30 Krock yay!
09:35 * greeter greets the greet party
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09:38 greeter greetings Obani
09:38 Obani greetings greeter
09:38 greeter what's up?
09:38 Obani Me
09:39 Obani And you ?
09:39 Krock successfully erased a HDD with a 16W loudspeaker magnet
09:39 greeter Krock: that'll often do it
09:39 greeter Obani: not much here, just wiki editing as always it seems lol
09:40 Obani That's great greeter
09:40 greeter i guess lol
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10:52 Calinou http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_​item&px=Khronos-Confirms-No-Vulkan
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12:08 sabino Hi everyone! I have a PC with Debian, I was install Minetest but it doesn't work, open the window and I can't click. The PC has a oldest Nvidia card and I installed the driver 304xx (nouveau) wich the Debian's documentation recomended, the driver it's ok, but Minetest not yet. Any idea?
12:10 Calinou 304.xx is not Nouveau
12:10 Calinou it's the proprietary NVIDIA driver
12:10 Calinou sabino, try starting it from a terminal, and give us the output through a pastebin
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12:15 sabino Ok, I'll try again on monday, this PC it's in my work, but I'm very ancious because I'll use for local server. I installed it by terminal like this https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers
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12:36 sabino Other thing... In Debian there's a package called minetest-server. Can I use it for local server?
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13:30 sapier http://imgur.com/y9ixW4r http://imgur.com/xYEUIzs http://imgur.com/z4hlJgb (Add support for 3d-model items)
13:38 Krock sapier, that's great! Will MTG get mesh-items then soon?
13:38 sapier considering the comments to the pull request I made I doubt it's gonna be there ever ;-)
13:39 Krock ack. :(
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13:49 sapier ok now the mesh item pull request is complete, it's up to modders to persuade the sceptics to add it ;-)
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15:05 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Flowers/mapgen: Slightly more flowers in mgv5/v7/flat/fractal 8704afe http://git.io/vEew6 (2015-12-19T15:03:10Z)
15:05 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default/mapgen: Correct spelling of 'noise threshhold' in 'register ore' c3a1545 http://git.io/vEewi (2015-12-19T15:03:09Z)
15:05 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default/mapgen: Re-add grassy sand dune biomes a1b8b68 http://git.io/vEewP (2015-12-19T15:03:09Z)
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15:34 * Krock adds some bugs into Fixer
15:34 * Fixer multiplies them
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16:19 luizrpgluiz hi :)
16:23 Krock hi (:
16:24 Fixer hi ._.
16:26 Krock °υ°
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16:29 Fixer *_* this is good too
16:29 MinetestBot [git] sapier@does.not.have.an.email -> minetest/minetest: Add support for limiting rotation of automatic face movement dir entitys 70ea5d5 http://git.io/vEedy (2015-12-19T17:00:36+01:00)
16:30 Krock Fixer, the lenny smiley beats them all
16:30 AndDT @_@
16:31 Fixer new icewm release
16:32 luizrpgluiz I got an old video card is an Nvidia GeForce2 MX 100/200 32MB AGP
16:33 Krock Got a similar card too
16:34 Krock sadly, can't use it anymore - PCI-E slot only
16:36 luizrpgluiz the minetest 0.4.13 does not close the anything like closing the onboard card, but the game takes to render the map when you walk in singleplayer map
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16:44 luizrpgluiz Krock: My computer comes with intel celeron processor old, with 512 of ram
16:45 Krock luizrpgluiz, that's not a correct english sentence. "My computer comes with an old Intel Celeron CPU and 512 MB RAM." would be better. #grammarnazi
16:47 luizrpgluiz Krock: i use a google translator,because I only speak Portuguese, Brazil
16:47 Krock I see
16:48 Krock But please. Learn some english basics. Google does not do its job well
16:48 luizrpgluiz Krock: yes ^_^
16:49 luizrpgluiz Krock: you know how to generate a structure in minetest using only code in LUA?
16:50 Krock luizrpgluiz, you would need to load the structure data from somewhere -> external file. An alternative would be to hardcode every node into a table but that's not the best solution
16:51 Krock I think the best way to do this is: Save a schematic of your structure and add it with minetest's functions
16:52 luizrpgluiz Krock: for example, has the mod from the ruins in the sub game wasteland
16:53 Krock https://github.com/BlockMen/Wastela​nd/blob/master/mods/ruins/init.lua
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16:54 luizrpgluiz Krock: Any external program that does not use mod that can create schematic?
16:54 Krock AFAIK no
16:55 luizrpgluiz Krock: so how I can create this schematic file?
16:57 Krock minetest.create_schematic(p1, p2, probability_list, filename, slice_prob_list) @lua_api.txt
16:59 Krock that function definition sounds quite complicated to me - so many references :/
17:00 Krock and IMO useless parameters ..
17:06 luizrpgluiz Krock: shame that this file could be in text mode, because that would be much easier to edit
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17:30 Krock huh
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17:41 Fixer jeez, so much bullshit comming from MS these days, i have to check every new update for Win7 for any bullshit
17:42 Fixer coming*
17:42 Fixer or even cuming** / ** if you know what i mean
17:42 Fixer i'm sick of this
17:43 AndDT Thank God that I migrated from XP to Slackware 13.1 years ago
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17:57 Krock AndDT, why "thank god"? You could have stayed on XP
17:57 Calinou XP is unsupported since April 2014
17:57 Calinou and, to be frank, nobody should be using it since 2009 (Windows 7 release)
17:57 Krock Calinou, I talked of those "years", not this year
17:58 Krock on-topic: http://esfriki.com/f/a6LXLbR_700b.jpg
17:58 Krock You're right. 7 looks useful too
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18:12 Fixer 7 is last usable
18:12 Fixer then it turned to shit
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18:14 Krock flush flush
18:19 Fixer users wanted no metro, that was MS trying to milk more money in some new way, it is not about the user, user does not matter anymore
18:21 Fixer they just throw new bullshit agenda they make up today to justify update to spend more money on things you don't need
18:22 Krock The problem is that there must be new things that people want to buy - which isn't easy on that sector
18:22 Fixer and win 10 forced updates makes me worry... that is 99.9% prediction of big bullshit down the road
18:23 Krock two sentenctes two times bullshit :D
18:24 Fixer BOX version is already pretty rare and their only hope is OEM
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18:24 Fixer buying new PC from OEM? prepare for MS + vendor bullshit
18:24 Krock It's a pain that there are no new, raw PCs without any OS :<
18:25 Fixer OEM win is cheap anyway
18:26 Fixer just erase it and install whatever you want
18:26 Fixer potential problem is secure boot BS, that can be used against Windows competitors
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18:28 Fixer at least we have linux/bsd/unix/minix distros and different platforms, you will not get gaming PC with that but at least it will be out of BS touch mostly
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18:28 Fixer and OSS already has nice playable games for a long time
18:29 Fixer including classics
18:29 * Krock inserts ReactOS in the list
18:29 Fixer ok
18:30 Calinou Windows was never about the user…
18:30 Fixer about milking user's money
18:30 Calinou >implying users buy Windows anyway
18:30 Krock ^
18:31 Fixer anyway, 7 is last tolerable version
18:31 Fixer and has its faults too
18:31 Fixer but XP has bigger security problem and needs power user to handle
18:31 Calinou people should upgrade from Windows anyway
18:32 Fixer flash drive viruses are common
18:32 Fixer Calinou, agree
18:32 Calinou my desktop PC is full Fedora 23
18:33 Calinou my laptop isn't, it runs Windows 10, because university forces us to use Adobe and Office…
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18:33 Fixer linux distros are desktop ready, and 80% gaming ready imho
18:33 Calinou they were ready for years, it's just that people never admit it
18:33 Calinou there were FLOSS games in 2007 too
18:33 Calinou and computing in general (not only GNU/Linux) was much more buggy and unstable in 2007 too
18:33 Calinou even Windows crashed quite a bit back then
18:34 Calinou now it's almost perfectly stable
18:34 Fixer now OSS has huge software library that runs everywhere, without bullshit attached (systemd excluded :trollface:)
18:35 Fixer Linux based PC is good for any nonhardcore gamer place
18:35 Calinou my parents use LibreOffice
18:35 Jordach Calinou, *tips fedora* ;^)
18:35 Calinou but they use InDesign and Photoshop…
18:35 Calinou :(
18:35 Calinou they also use some proprietary accounting software
18:35 Calinou that runs only on Windows
18:35 Jordach Calinou, TurboTax? ;)
18:35 Calinou if not for that, they could run GNU/Linux
18:35 Calinou nope, Ciel
18:35 Fixer Calinou, 95% does not need InDesign and Photoshop
18:35 Jordach ah
18:36 Fixer Calinou, or even 9%
18:36 Jordach Fixer, GIMP, Inkscape and a generous dollop of Blender
18:36 Fixer 99%
18:36 Fixer *
18:36 Fixer Jordach, yes, that is good enough, average user uses paint-level programs :}
18:38 Fixer you can argue about business PC, but on home desktop it is ready, on gaming front it is much better, gamers will prefer Win, but other can stick with Linux and be happy, Firefox+Libreoffice+Gimp+Mail, what else do you need? 20years that costed >1000USD just for OS
18:38 Fixer years ago*
18:38 Jordach Fixer, actually, i had issues with GPU rendering under Linux
18:38 Fixer depends on videocard and drivers
18:38 Fixer it is better these days
18:39 Fixer people just use Win because they are used to it, that's why I'm using it, but debian/fedora/whatever is good for me too, people don't like to switch
18:40 Calinou Fixer, yeah but people think they need it
18:40 AndDT Calinou: university forces me to use windows too. Mathcad 14 + Matlab 6.5 + Simulink
18:41 Calinou sucks :(
18:41 AndDT So I installed VirtualBox 4.3 with w2k
18:41 Calinou why w2k
18:41 AndDT my most favourite windows after 3.11
18:41 Fixer it is fast and no BS attached
18:41 Fixer takes few space
18:41 AndDT because 2k is enough to run those apps
18:41 Calinou Windows 10 is pretty decent, just use https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking
18:42 Fixer Calinou, nah, it is much slower than 2000/XP and needs more memory
18:42 AndDT And I gzipped 2k image, it took only ~360 Mb
18:42 Fixer i have nonzipped streamlined XP + tank game for Virtualbox, Win is 200MB, game is 300 :}
18:43 Calinou Fixer, it does need more RAM for sure
18:43 Calinou but it looks better, can do more
18:43 Calinou I can't stand XP looks
18:43 Fixer use classic theme for XP
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18:43 Calinou classic theme is even worse
18:43 Fixer Win10 has more security protection, but that's can be done in XP
18:43 Jordach Fixer, is that tank game Pocket Tanks by chance>
18:43 Jordach (it runs fine in WINE)
18:44 Fixer Jordach, nah, it is Steel Beasts
18:44 Jordach ah
18:44 Fixer will not run on anything after XP :( WINE can't run it iirc
18:44 Calinou I had a Monopoly game that didn't run on XP
18:44 Calinou when I was a kid
18:44 Calinou it ran on 98/2000
18:45 Calinou I think compatibility mode made it work
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19:08 Calinou 88 stars! https://github.com/Calinou/awesome-gamedev
19:08 Calinou this is my most starred project :)
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19:15 exio4 you are a github rockstar, congrantz
19:15 exio4 congratz*
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19:31 Krock JohnnyComeL8ly, you're late.
19:42 Fixer i've searched thgough freesounds for some wind sounds for minetest, I think there are few nice ones :}
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19:57 ajaypay Are there zombies in Minetest 0.4.13?
19:57 Jordach ajaypay, no - you'd have to add them via the simple mobs mod
19:57 ajaypay For some reason I have zombies, and I don't know what mod it's from.
19:58 ajaypay They look like these headless guys in all white.
19:58 JohnnyComeL8ly Krock, that is a bunch of yourself.
19:58 Fixer this is pretty neat for background sound for MT -> http://www.freesound.org/peo​ple/wescwave/sounds/170017/
19:58 ajaypay Do you have an idea of what they're from?
19:59 Krock ajaypay, punch it and look in the console/terminal what happened
19:59 Krock I think it should show the mob name there
19:59 ajaypay I've done that before, but I couldn't find it.
20:00 ajaypay But I found out what it was ;)
20:00 ajaypay It's the mob from the NPCF_NG mod.
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20:01 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9​&amp;t=7321&amp;hilit=npcf_ng&amp;start=100
20:01 Krock from the npcf
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20:11 LandMine Wassssssaaaaaaaa!
20:13 Krock -bi.
20:15 Krock LandMine, are there any dumb people ingame who would walk on you?
20:16 * Calinou steps on LandMine
20:16 * Krock sees Calinou in the flames
20:17 LandMine Lol
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20:27 RedNifre heya
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20:37 RealBadAngel plants with waving: https://youtu.be/L_Az4mEQEtI
20:43 Fixer we need landmines for MT
20:44 Fixer RealBadAngel, interesting, could it be slower? feels too fast
20:48 RealBadAngel Fixer, this is exactly the same speed as we do have now
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21:18 Fixer are there any big time programs in GTK3 ported to windows? I wonder how they look
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21:23 Calinou "GTK+ 3 on Windows? Haha! What now? Engineers that give ammo crates?"
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22:13 Fixer is it even viable option on *nix?
22:13 Fixer for a new program
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22:46 LinuxGuy2020 Im running 0.4.9 in Linux Mint 17.3. I just discovered that I can download VanessaE Dreambuilder game and get just about every mod I want all in one download which is freaking cool. How do I use it? I tried placing it in the mods folder and it fails to work Im guessing its thw wrong folder location or wrong version of minetest. What am I doing wrong?
22:48 LinuxGuy2020 I know how to rename mods and use them successfully already. But never messed with these minetest "games".
22:49 Fixer place it in /games
22:49 Fixer Dreambuilder folder in /games
22:50 Fixer also, there is MT 0.4.13 available, you are using old version
22:50 Fixer Sokomine, hi, you here?
22:51 LinuxGuy2020 Fixer: Is 0.4.13 safe to use? I used it before for the server in my house. But the world got corrupted. Im having to start over again because of it.
22:51 LinuxGuy2020 Is it safe?
22:52 VanessaE use a development build
22:52 Fixer sure, why not, practically everyone uses it, i'm not sure why the world got corrupted
22:52 VanessaE 0.4.13 is olllld
22:52 Fixer lol
22:53 VanessaE you updated more than 5 mins ago?  you're out of date! :)
22:53 VanessaE (really though, dreambuilder needs 0.4.12 at least, maybe even 0.4.13, I forget.  use a development build from the forums, in any case.)
22:53 LinuxGuy2020 ok thanks guys
22:54 LinuxGuy2020 VanessaE: Your a minetest goddess! You do great work, your awesome!
22:54 LinuxGuy2020 ;)
22:54 hmmmm what about her minetest goddess?
22:55 VanessaE nah
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22:55 VanessaE I just try to keep things working
22:57 LinuxGuy2020 So on the website I should download under GNU/Linux-----Packages (daily, unstable)? Thats what I used before. That the one?
22:57 VanessaE yeah, that'll get you the latest
22:57 LinuxGuy2020 ok cool
22:58 VanessaE it's not usually "unstable" though.  that just means things are actively being developed.
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22:58 VanessaE you can also roll your own if you want
23:00 LinuxGuy2020 VanessaE: How do you usually backup your worlds on your servers? I have a mini itx box running NAS4Free with a virtualbox of Linux Mint 17 on it thats running the minetest server. How are your servers configured? In virtual machines? Do you backup automatically or manually? I want to avoid a world corruption or loss.
23:00 VanessaE mine all run "bare", and I do backups with a script that runs from cron
23:01 LinuxGuy2020 ok
23:01 VanessaE those backups go to a second drive in the machine, and also to an FTP server
23:02 LinuxGuy2020 ok
23:04 LinuxGuy2020 VanessaE: Whats your server OS that you run them all on? Just curious.
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23:05 VanessaE Debian 8
23:05 VanessaE the whole setup runs on one of these, https://www.soyoustart.com/us/offers/e3-sat-3.xml
23:09 LinuxGuy2020 VanessaE: I was going to use Debian also originally cause it would be much faster than running minetest in a vbox machine, cause my mini itx server is just an Atom 1.86Ghz dual core machine. Did it take a long time to configure the whole server? Only reason I tried NAS4Free was to get up and running quickly. Its nice with all service out of the box and a nice web gui for everything.
23:10 LinuxGuy2020 I should have bought a faster motherboard/CPU looking back now.
23:14 VanessaE configuring the OS wasn't difficult, about the same as any other linux install I've done over the years; hell most of it was already done for me by way of OVH using an install image to get the machine going.
23:14 VanessaE the time consuming part was all the scripts I use to manage everything
23:14 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vane​ssa/hobbies/minetest/Server-scripts/
23:14 VanessaE it took a while to write and re-write them and they're still pretty primitive.
23:16 VanessaE but that aside, getting the OS to the point where it could run Minetest was trivial
23:17 jomat Is there snow in dreambuilder?
23:18 VanessaE no
23:18 VanessaE but that can be added with a mod
23:18 VanessaE DB is mostly compatible with regular MT mods, probably one or two exceptions
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23:19 VanessaE LinuxGuy2020: I also made a point to develop a decent statistics tracking setup,
23:19 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanes​sa/hobbies/minetest/stats-daily.html
23:20 VanessaE (some of the management scripts in the previous link are used to fill out and draw that ^^^ by way of rrdtool and friends)
23:21 LinuxGuy2020 ok Ill have a look there.
23:21 jomat Oh thats why we didnt find any, thx :-)
23:21 VanessaE there are about 5 more servers running on the box that are not shown on that graph
23:21 LinuxGuy2020 VanessaE: Do you run it headless? With or without a desktop environment? SSH everthing etc?
23:21 VanessaE (at least in the player counts; I need to update my scripts to be able to track servers that aren't running from /home/minetest)
23:21 VanessaE that's headless yeah.  it's a server in one of OVH's Canada datacenters.
23:23 LinuxGuy2020 VanessaE: Do you VNC or SSH to it? Im just trying to get an idea of how to set mine up if you dont mind sharing.
23:23 VanessaE ssh
23:23 LinuxGuy2020 ok
23:24 VanessaE with scp and rsync access to keep my files up-to-date
23:24 VanessaE (I cache everything on my home PC first, then upload when I'm ready)
23:24 LinuxGuy2020 ok
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23:40 Inocudom I think it would be a good idea to create a new topic in the Minetest forums telling people that if they are not happy with Minetest in its current state, then they won't ever be happy.
23:43 LinuxGuy2020 VanessaE: Do you know if there is a way to run a MT server from one of my desktops or laptops, but use the world, game, mods, from files located on my NAS box over FTP or something? That would be much faster than it running on a virtualbox session on the NAS itself.'
23:43 Inocudom People often forget that the developers are hobbyist with jobs, families, other interests, and (in the case of these days) trials that affect their very survival. They are not slaves. Let me repeat that. The developers are not slaves. That goes for custom content makers as well.
23:43 VanessaE LinuxGuy2020: you can do that with a redis-based world I think
23:44 LinuxGuy2020 VanessaE: Any idea where I can read about that by chance?
23:44 VanessaE unfortunately I don't have a pointed for you on that.
23:44 LinuxGuy2020 ok
23:44 VanessaE pointer*
23:45 Inocudom And, in a world that is getting uglier and uglier faster and faster (which should be blatantly obvious by now,) working on open source projects and making custom content will get harder and harder.
23:45 VanessaE Inocudom: stop
23:45 VanessaE don't bring that negativity in here.  we have enough as it is.
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23:46 Inocudom I can see the negativity in the Minetest community, but that is simply a by-product of the world as it is.
23:46 VanessaE dude, I'm serious.  don't make me kick you out.
23:46 sapier negatuvity? are you serious? I'd never have noticed anything like that *smile*
23:47 VanessaE sapier: well considering you were AWOL for the better part of a year..... :)
23:48 sapier sorry forgot the <ironic></ironic> tags ;-P
23:48 VanessaE hehe
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23:49 jomat LinuxGuy2020: Why do you want that? Can't you store the map/mods/.. on your notebook?
23:49 Evidlo Would it be a good idea to make 'minetest_game' a submodule of the main git repo?
23:49 VanessaE Evidlo: no.  everyone hates submodules :P
23:50 LinuxGuy2020 jomat: multiple machines on a home network that play together. I have a NAS and it would store the world on a ZFS mirror.
23:50 Evidlo I don't hate submodules
23:50 Inocudom A certain mod known as streets uses submodules. It is pretty hard to download because of that.
23:50 Evidlo What makes it so hard?
23:50 sapier everyone doesn't want to be everyone too ;-)
23:52 sapier well submodules aren't used very often because for all situations where you'd need submodules git's implementation ain't enough ... and if you have to write your scripts around it anyway you just don't need submodules any longer
23:53 sapier isn't enough
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23:54 Evidlo Isn't a submodule identical to cloning a repo inside a repo?
23:54 Evidlo Just automatic?
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23:55 sapier nope it ain't
23:55 sapier but it's quite similar true
23:55 Inocudom https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&amp;t=13756
23:56 sapier a submodule is connected to the original repository
23:56 Inocudom This guy is starting off well in his modding hobby. Send some kind words to him.
23:56 sapier e.g. if you clone a clone with submodules in it it's cloning from the original source of submodules not from the clone you're cloning all the other things from
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23:59 Evidlo what

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