Time  Nick        Message
02:03 rubenwardy  er, what? https://github.com/maikerumine/badplayer/blob/master/api.lua#L75-L76
02:03 Taurith     rubenwardy: https://github.com/maikerumine/badplayer/blob/master/api.lua#L383
02:04 VanessaE    wat
02:04 VanessaE    I'm sorry, those two do NOT belong next to "child" and "gotten"
02:06 rubenwardy  The most disturbing thing for me is
02:07 rubenwardy  "== true" and "== false"
02:07 rubenwardy  eugh
02:07 rubenwardy  ;)
02:07 VanessaE    heh
02:13 FreeFull    That should be a built-in lint
02:46 yunfan      VanessaE: does #2544 really solved ?
04:07 VanessaE    yunfan: as far as I know it is.
05:01 yunfan      VanessaE: but i still met the problem you described , i am using the code from master
05:01 * VanessaE  shrugs
05:03 yunfan      the chest lag is reallllly boring
05:03 yunfan      mean while, pick up items dont have any lag in the same game
06:02 Calinou     http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=FLOSS-Gaming-Downhill-Poll :(
06:07 VanessaE    :(
06:09 Calinou     really, Warsow 2.0 was recently released and is better than ever
06:09 Calinou     Xonotic keeps getting updates to have more stuff predicted
06:09 Calinou     and Minetest is in a better state than it was 6 months ago
06:10 Calinou     I seriously doubt FLOSS gaming is fading away… sure, it's a niche, but it'll stay where it is for the foreseeable future
06:11 VanessaE    I would have to venture a guess that a majority of the people who participated in the poll that generated these figures are, themselves, nearing burnout
06:11 Hijiri      the comments about OpenGL 4 might be related to that mesa/nouveau etc. don't have support for it yet
06:11 VanessaE    hence they see things as being in decline
06:12 Hijiri      is there anywhere I can read about what freedesktop people are planning/thinking in relation to vulkan
06:13 VanessaE    no ida.
06:13 VanessaE    idea*
06:20 Calinou     nouveau and radeonsi support OpenGL 4.1 now.
06:20 Calinou     also, most devs don't care, they even tell users to install proprietary drivers
06:22 Hijiri      ok
06:23 Hijiri      thanks for both infos
06:24 Calinou     http://mesamatrix.net/
06:24 Calinou     bookmark this :)
06:25 Calinou     looks like i965 has full OpenGL ES 3.1 support, that's nice
06:25 Calinou     but I guess it also needs OpenGL 4.0 support to be considered really complete
06:25 Hijiri      Thanks
06:26 Calinou     Godot Engine (http://godotengine.org) will use OpenGL ES 3.0 for its 3D rewrite, with optional OpenGL ES 3.1 features
06:26 Calinou     there will be Vulkan later, if it turns out to be good
06:28 yunfan      Calinou: agree MT is better than ever. even compiling is more easy now
06:32 yunfan      also is it possible to have a html5 render ?
06:32 yunfan      since i have saw many js demo show that
06:32 VanessaE    html5? no fucking way
06:41 yunfan      well , why not? many classic game has been ported to web platform, and since the adobe itself gave up flash, of course html5 render is the only target now
06:43 VanessaE    because this is not a web-suitable game.
06:44 VanessaE    same reason you wouldn't rewrite it in Javascript.
06:44 VanessaE    those languages aren't meant for that task.
06:44 yunfan      there're emscriptem which compile c/cpp sourcecode to js
06:45 VanessaE    forget it.
06:45 yunfan      also i have played a quake demo
06:46 VanessaE    besides all that, the amount of work it would take to rewrite it to use js and somehow render via HTML5 would not at all be worth it.
06:47 yunfan      as i have said, there're emscript which compile your c/cpp sourcecode to js, you dont need to rewrite the engine using js
06:48 yunfan      https://github.com/kripken/emscripten  check this
06:49 VanessaE    +
06:51 VanessaE    -oops.
10:07 JamesTait   Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Monkey Day! 😃
10:21 spirou      monkey day?
10:54 spirou      and here i thought we should celebrate the moon this day rather.
10:55 spirou      in a perfect world the moon should be slightly larger at monday nights :)
11:28 amadin      Hi all
11:31 amadin      can somebody write in lua chat command teleporting to bed with this player:setpos(player_spawns[player_name]) ???
11:31 amadin      for bed mod with spawns
12:25 Calinou     yunfan, Emscripten is too slow to be usable, moreover it feels like it's quite a hack
12:25 Calinou     also the problem is making the game persistent (persistent singleplayer worlds for instance)
12:25 Calinou     just forget about it, WebAssembly might make native software usable on the Web but right now it isn't happening
13:11 SylvieLorxu Persistance in JavaScript is reasonably simple: localStorage
13:11 SylvieLorxu I don't know if Emscripten implemented that yet, though
14:30 yunfan      Calinou: well unity looks like use it for porting to web
14:44 yunfan      SylvieLorxu: also there is google's pnacl
14:50 kaeza       o/
15:30 sofar       VanessaE: html5 obviously not, but WebGL....
18:35 * Fixer     opens door to freshen the rotten smell in a #minetest
18:38 Krock       AAH finally
18:38 Krock       thank you :)
19:17 sofar       Fixer: make sure none of the core devs run out, though!
19:18 dadix       hello
19:18 Krock       LOL
19:19 dadix       there are any news abou global illumination for minetest ?
19:19 dadix       about
19:19 Krock       sofar, the dev room is still locked, so don't worry.
19:19 sofar       Krock: good, I just stunk that up with some contentious patches this weekend...
19:19 Krock       ^^
19:20 dadix       I saw this was discused long time ago in forum  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94508
20:34 Megaf       Heya
20:34 Megaf       !server Megaf
20:34 MinetestBot Megaf: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 2/10, 0/3 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 9ms
21:38 luizrpgluiz rubenwardy: will be new in the next version of minetest?
21:39 rubenwardy  It depends what is worked on. Here is the stuff that has already been added: http://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits
21:39 rubenwardy  this is the stuff the people want to be added: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pulls
21:40 rubenwardy  lots of mapgen stuff, it seems
21:40 swift110    hey all
21:40 rubenwardy  hi
21:41 swift110    how are you rubenwardy
21:41 rubenwardy  good thanks
21:42 rubenwardy  Making my own game
21:42 rubenwardy  Working on the networking
21:42 rubenwardy  Trying to work out why: "Incorrect size for TOCLIENT_WORLD_NEW_ENTITY packet, was 38 should be 37. Packet ignored."
21:46 rubenwardy  found it
21:46 rubenwardy  forgot a break in a select
21:46 rubenwardy  *switch
21:47 swift110    good rubenwardy
21:55 paratrooper Whenever I move my mouse away from the center of the screen, my vision moves, but it never stops moving
21:56 rubenwardy  Are you using Wayland?
21:56 paratrooper I have to find the exact center pixel on my screen to stop my vision from sp-
21:56 paratrooper yes I am.
21:56 rubenwardy  That's the problem
21:56 rubenwardy  ;)
21:56 rubenwardy  It's a known issue
21:56 rubenwardy  Wayland doesn't support cursor grabbing
21:57 paratrooper okay, that's comforting to know. Thanks a lot.
21:57 dadix       rubenwardy what game ?
21:57 rubenwardy  https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/665608689152360448
22:22 dadix       nice game
22:22 dadix       and a good fps
22:55 Fixer       rubenwardy, will you also simulate minetest-like lag in that game?
22:55 rubenwardy  lol
22:57 rubenwardy  I'll add stress testing, ofc
22:57 rubenwardy  But I'll try and avoid getting MT like lag
23:07 Fixer       rubenwardy, i have a "great idea" for a new mod: Minetest from Mars edition (simulating playing MT from Mars on an Earth server), increase lag by +NN minutes, ???, FUN! also, no need to fix anything
23:07 rubenwardy  lol
23:07 rubenwardy  Good, cynical, april's fools
23:08 rubenwardy  Shall I write up a prototype?
23:08 Fixer       lol, if you like
23:08 rubenwardy  https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/c648691d8f0e67c07c59
23:08 rubenwardy  there you are ^
23:09 rubenwardy  Is my code style okay?
23:09 Fixer       i don't see any code yet
23:09 rubenwardy  exactly
23:09 rubenwardy  it's already a builtin feature
23:10 Fixer       with Mars edition you can have consistent inventory lag, not that stupid 0-10sec, but 25:00-25:10 minutes, dispersion is much less and user is happy
23:10 Fixer       or opening a door
23:11 Fixer       again, no need to fix anything
23:11 Fixer       or another brilliant idea
23:11 Fixer       it is Mars edition
23:11 Fixer       but
23:11 Fixer       you have low nuclear power on your base
23:12 Fixer       and you are playing on Intel HD integrated on Celeron notebook
23:12 Fixer       that way we can lower fps down to reasonable 24, and no need to fix anything
23:12 Fixer       and it sounds cool
23:12 Fixer       like DOOM 3
23:12 Fixer       DOOM 3 while playing MT on Mars!
23:14 Fixer       Moon lag is boring
23:14 Fixer       just 2 seconds
23:14 Fixer       MT is already has that
23:17 sofar       http://serverfault.com/questions/336089/adding-latency-to-outbound-udp-packets-with-tc
23:18 sofar       adding lag already is possible without extra tools
23:18 sofar       just use 'tc'
23:18 Fixer       nice
23:19 rubenwardy  can you set it to negative?
23:19 rubenwardy  and speed it up?
23:21 Calinou     Minetest 2: Hell on Earth
23:21 Calinou     "Kids using mobile clients have invaded Earth"
23:21 Calinou     "You must make your way through them, griefing their cobble houses"
23:35 Fixer       yes!