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02:57 omarsgifford14 Hello!
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10:17 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy birthday to UNICEF! 😃
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10:25 XeonSquared always interesting info
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10:42 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix android build 6133b2b http://git.io/v0IWi (2015-12-11T11:24:26+01:00)
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11:04 wilkgr Google suggested me a MC video on YT....
11:04 wilkgr And it has something we SO need in MT...
11:05 wilkgr https://youtu.be/1q30U-drM-U?t=2m22s
11:05 wilkgr Aussie english!
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13:25 Calinou I'm now on Fedora 23
13:27 Fixer Calinou, like to be a beta-tester? :}
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13:29 Calinou it's perfectly stable
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13:58 Ingar as stable as win95 on a pentium
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15:23 rafalcpp hi. should I really git clone twice to get engine +  game?
15:24 rafalcpp why it's not a git submodule?
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15:36 afflatus My server keeps crashing :(
15:36 afflatus Segmentation fault
15:36 afflatus :~$ Sorry about the crashing
15:36 afflatus bash: Sorry: command not found
15:37 afflatus I just had to share that.
15:37 afflatus I know this is a known bug.
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15:56 Calinou use an automatic restart script, afflatus
15:56 Calinou while :; do ./minetestserver; sleep 5; done
16:03 Viper what cause  ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: std::bad_alloc ?
16:04 Viper no crash but high ram usage
16:05 rafalcpp Viper: are you not just out o memor?
16:05 rafalcpp out of
16:06 Viper rafalcpp:  somehow minetest was using 6 GiB ram, i need more?
16:07 Viper rafalcpp:  i would like to know a mod cause it or engine itself?
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16:34 Xack Viper: very likely not the engine, more a mod
16:34 Xack a lot of assets and such
16:36 Xack rafalcpp: it makes no difference to bandwidth, internally submodules git clone anyway
16:41 Viper Xack: thanks
16:41 afflatus Calinou: normally I would run it from sysvinit anyway
16:41 Viper so i guess last mod i add cause it
16:58 RealBadAngel rafalcpp, minetest_game is separate github repo and there are many other games
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17:46 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/report
17:46 rubenwardy New mod!
17:46 rubenwardy I need to update chatplus to work with it, though
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17:47 rubenwardy VanessaE ^
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17:49 Dr_Emmett_Brown Great Scott! It worked! I can't believe it actually worked!
17:49 Xeprione hey doc, what about we go have a ride with the delorian?
17:49 Dr_Emmett_Brown The DeLorian? Have you seen it?
17:50 Xeprione yes
17:50 Xeprione ping
17:50 Dr_Emmett_Brown Xeprione: pong
17:50 Xeprione !quit
17:50 Xeprione gucci :D
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18:07 Dennis_Kelley alket - you around?
18:08 Dennis_Kelley Anyone around that can answer a question for me?
18:09 alket Dennis_Kelley: hi
18:09 Dennis_Kelley alket good see a familiar name in this channel
18:09 alket :)
18:10 Dennis_Kelley Do you play minetest alot?
18:10 alket not a lot, but I play some times
18:10 alket I used to play it a lot though
18:11 alket why do you ask ?
18:11 Dennis_Kelley i am trying to figure out how make minecarts with storage. any clues to send me in the right direction
18:11 alket I don't think its possible
18:11 alket I asked this some weeks ago also
18:11 Dennis_Kelley is there something that can be used like a minecart to send mined ores up to my surface building
18:12 alket teleport ?
18:12 behalebabo Dennis_Kelley: Minecarts from the boost_cart mod can hold items, but they won't go through unloaded chunks, so something like the teleporting tubes from pipeworks might work better.
18:12 Dennis_Kelley i found the monorail mod. but could not figure out how to build the rail for the monorail cart
18:12 alket https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2149
18:13 rubenwardy Dr_Emmet_Brown also joined #ludumdare on afternet...
18:14 Dennis_Kelley behalebabo what does unloaded chunks mean?
18:15 behalebabo A chunk is a 16x16x16 section of the world, they are loaded and unloaded as the player moves through the world
18:15 behalebabo Unloaded chunks generally can't have anything happen in them
18:17 Dennis_Kelley so as I am moving thru a cave, if something moves in that 16X16X16 section, the boost_Cart will not move?
18:18 behalebabo several chunks around you will be loaded, so the cart can move there, but the chunks that are farther from you will not be loaded, so the cart will stop moving if it reaches one
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18:40 rubenwardy Chunks are not 16x16x16 - you're talking about MapBlocks
18:40 rubenwardy chunks are 8x8x8 mapblocks, so 80x80x80 nodes irc
18:40 rubenwardy !g 16*8
18:40 MinetestBot rubenwardy: http://www.menshealth.co.uk/food-nutrition/mu​scle-foods/mh-trials-hugh-jackmans-16-8-diet
18:40 rubenwardy !c 16*8
18:40 rubenwardy !c 16*8
18:40 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Took to long to calculate
18:41 rubenwardy Well, not 80
18:41 rubenwardy !c 16*4
18:41 MinetestBot 64
18:41 rubenwardy !c 16*6
18:41 MinetestBot 96
18:41 rubenwardy !c 16*5
18:41 MinetestBot 80
18:41 rubenwardy meh
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18:47 sfan5 rubenwardy: i heard that your calculation timed out
18:47 sfan5 so
18:47 sfan5 rubenwardy: hi
18:49 rubenwardy hello
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19:13 Krock ΑΑн ωнат а gοοd іdеа fгοм му ѕіdе аgаіη тο gет агουηd сеηѕοг ьοтѕ...
19:13 Calinou fuck censorship!
19:13 Krock Yes!
19:14 Krock Much time + censorship = perfect situation to write something new
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20:13 * est31 implementing crc32 speedup algorithm invented by smart intel people
20:13 est31 http://create.stephan-brumme.co​m/crc32/#slicing-by-8-overview
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20:44 Call_of_Duty GET REKT M9
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20:46 Calinou Tesserekt
20:46 Xeprione hey Calinou
20:46 Xeprione guess what
20:46 Xeprione i'm gonna take part of Ludum Dare :D
20:46 Calinou nice, but I think it's overrated
20:46 Xeprione nah dude
20:46 Calinou haven't seen any serious, longstanding game project come out of it
20:46 Xeprione bruh
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20:46 Call_of_Duty GET REKT M9
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20:47 Krock That's called "Get rekt m8"
20:47 Xeprione lol :D
20:47 Krock n00b
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20:48 Krock It's horrible when they can't even write their spam correctly
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20:48 Call_of_Duty GET REKT M9
20:48 Krock Still wrong, dude
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20:49 Krock Gawd
20:49 Xeprione it was about time :D
20:49 Krock indeed
20:50 Xeprione Krock: are you gonna take part of the upcoming ludum dare?
20:50 Xeprione think fast tho, it starts in 5h 10min
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20:56 Krock hmmmm watching the progress there could be interesting
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20:57 Krock oops
20:57 Krock didn't want to highlight you, sorry :<
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21:47 Fixer ._.
21:48 Fixer wat?
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22:04 Fixer what the hell is "Get rekt m8" ?
22:04 Fixer my libastral is broken
22:04 Krock dunno
22:05 Krock install it, maybe you can understand it afterwards
22:06 Krock going off here before my PC runs without control for some hours.. zz
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22:09 sorgc hi, how can I move/fly faster?
22:09 sorgc in creative mode for example
22:11 est31 sorgc, press f
22:11 est31 you get into fast mode
22:11 est31 but you need the fast priv
22:11 est31 for that do /grant singleplayer all
22:11 est31 (if you are in singleplayer menu)
22:11 est31 ermm game
22:11 sorgc est31: nothing happens, how to check the bind?
22:12 est31 sorgc, it will display "fast move enabled" or disabled below
22:12 est31 if it is enabled
22:12 est31 you go fast if in fly mode
22:12 sorgc oh ok it was j
22:12 est31 if not in fly mode, you can go fast by pressing the E key simultaneously
22:12 est31 ah sorry
22:12 Fixer maan, at least 120 nodes view gives magnificent view
22:13 Fixer if only minetest was that fast
22:13 est31 ^
22:13 est31 minetest could do much better at rendering stuff
22:13 sorgc and how to set daytime to day?
22:13 Fixer yes
22:13 est31 so much better
22:13 est31 sorgc, /time 6:00
22:13 sorgc thank
22:13 sorgc and how to make server generate more terrain in advance
22:13 sorgc so I do not see holes in distance
22:13 est31 hrmmmm
22:14 sorgc well in general how to send me larger view (generate it, and send it)
22:14 est31 I'd have to look that up
22:14 Fixer caves are super beautiful view such view range
22:14 sorgc Fixer: how you set it?
22:14 Fixer press + on NumPad
22:15 Calinou est31, you can use hour:minute syntax with /time?
22:16 est31 Calinou, yes, since 0.4.13 even I think
22:16 est31 Calinou, and /time will return it in hour:min syntax
22:17 est31 even for ppl without privs I think
22:17 sorgc well I have large view 400
22:17 sorgc but the blocks are not generated
22:17 est31 sorgc, you can try changing "Max block send distance"
22:17 sorgc would be nice to fix that
22:17 est31 its in settings tab
22:17 sorgc oh sounds good
22:17 est31 "Server/singleplayer"
22:17 est31 then go "Game"
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22:17 est31 but I havent tried
22:18 Calinou the "full view range" thing should be removed really
22:18 Calinou it was merely for testing, initially
22:18 sorgc est31: I want it for my online server too
22:18 est31 sorgc, you can enable the "show technical names" check box
22:19 est31 there you see the technical name
22:19 est31 use it in minetest.conf
22:19 est31 Calinou, probably. but helps alot in ctf to enable it for short time in order to see past viewing range, and then get back to competitive high fps low range mode
22:19 MinetestBot [git] BlockMen -> minetest/minetest: Fix events on Windows aed1076 http://git.io/v0YkX (2015-12-11T23:08:14+01:00)
22:20 est31 outside of ctf too ofc
22:20 sorgc it worked
22:20 sorgc cool
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22:35 Calinou I use 256 view range, and have 60 FPS everywhere
22:35 Calinou 4× MSAA
22:35 sorgc is there any plan to make a not-retarded animals?
22:36 est31 Lets put it this way: we know they are retarded
22:37 sorgc v7 terrain is buggy?
22:37 sorgc I have a flying rock
22:37 Calinou can we have a /suicide command in minetest_game or core?
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22:39 est31 sorgc, to be honest I dont know whether thats a bug or intended behaviour
22:40 est31 best you wait until paramat gets online he knows
22:40 sorgc how to see current location?  and go back to it later
22:40 est31 press f5
22:40 BlockMen sorgc : use creatures mb-engine (cme), they might be retarded aswell but look better ;)
22:40 BlockMen *+o
22:40 exio4 Calinou: call it differently or you will get tumblers in the minetest bug tracker
22:41 Calinou /killme then
22:41 Calinou makes sense since we have /giveme
22:41 est31 oh yeah
22:41 kahrl /sudoku
22:41 est31 minetest taken offline
22:41 est31 kahrl, isnt it /seppuku ?
22:41 kahrl est31: yes I know :P
22:43 sorgc how to see my position?
22:43 kahrl https://answers.yahoo.com/questio​n/index?qid=20120109113146AA73yN9
22:43 sorgc Im spawned in some huge ass rock only biome or shit
22:43 est31 as i said press f5
22:43 sorgc thx
22:44 sorgc this flying rocks are annoying
22:45 Viper any tricks to make mt server RAM friendly?
22:45 sorgc could we have a terrain engine to collapse unsupported rock terrain...?  depending on type
22:45 sorgc e.g. stone caves to some size would not collapse
22:45 Calinou Viper, decrease number of max loaded blocks, time the blocks are kept in memory and such
22:45 est31 sorgc, it is doable, but enabling it by default would lead to problems
22:45 Calinou but I really advise having 1 GB of RAM at least
22:46 Viper Calinou:  i have 6
22:46 Calinou how many players do you have?
22:46 Viper Calinou:  what values you use on your server? max loaded blocks and so?
22:46 Calinou defaults…
22:46 Calinou my VPS has 1 GB RAM, and runs many other game servers
22:46 Viper around 6
22:46 Calinou I use dedicated_server_step = 0.05 though
22:46 Calinou (smoother player/mob movement)
22:47 Viper last days mt take more ram, i wonder
22:47 est31 you added technic mod?
22:47 Calinou perhaps restart the server daily at 04:00 or so
22:47 Viper no
22:47 sorgc lol I am 3000 blocks away from spawn 0,0,0 and still ONLY DAMN ROCKS everywher
22:48 Viper i did today, as it was frozen 6GiB ram used
22:48 Calinou sorgc, which map generator do you use?
22:48 sorgc 0 tree  0 earth
22:48 Calinou use v6
22:48 sorgc Calinou: v6 with seed 42
22:50 sorgc at 4000 blocks, still ONLY rocks and water
22:50 sorgc (and moss and ore)
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22:52 Fixer sorgc, update your minetest to 0.4.13
22:53 sorgc Fixer: yes I'm on it, git master
22:54 sorgc Fixer: v6 seed=42  you start on rocks+water.  6000 blocks away still just that (e.g. /teleport 0 10 6300)
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22:55 sorgc 0 0 8000 no change
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22:56 sorgc 0 0 8500 *huge* flying rock island,  but still just rocks
22:57 sorgc -100 30 8840    some dungeon,  but just rocks otherwise
22:57 Fixer let me see
22:58 sorgc 50 50 9370 nice crater, but jsut rocks
22:59 sorgc yey 0 0 10000 and never seen dirt/grass/tree/sand ye
22:59 Fixer sorgc, i'm using 5 Dec 2015 and have no problems
22:59 sorgc yey 0 0 10000 and never seen dirt/grass/tree/sand yet
22:59 Fixer sorgc, maybe it is a bug, file a bug report
22:59 sorgc 0 50 20000 is same
23:00 Fixer sorgc, update your minetest_game
23:00 Fixer just to be sure
23:00 sorgc what is game world size limit?
23:01 Fixer 32000 iirc
23:01 sorgc why so small :(
23:01 sorgc I understand vertical limit, but planar should be unlimited imo
23:02 sorgc or like 10,000,000
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23:05 Fixer it is good enough
23:05 Fixer are you sofar?
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23:05 sorgc Fixer: fixed
23:06 sorgc it was indeed the old minetest_game :)
23:06 Fixer people rarely build outside 2000 nodes imho
23:06 Fixer look at the available maps
23:06 Fixer there are so much space anyway
23:14 afflatus I have a player digging around the 2000, -150, 2000 mark as we speak
23:16 afflatus But 32 000 is enough
23:16 afflatus For sure
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23:25 sorgc afflatus: not with mods for fast transport
23:25 sorgc I mean why the hell not even 100,000,000 limit
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23:30 sorgc how to join Venessa's server? and get build perms?
23:33 sorgc ok I found it on list... sure takes long to connect :P
23:33 sorgc any other server admins here?
23:34 sorgc does anyone allow connection via true ipv6?
23:34 sorgc I wanted to test ipv6 only ISP,  as well as cjdns a VPN-like provider that allows to build cool secure internet connections
23:36 sorgc huh just 3 fps on that server... but it was working fine on local game.. why??
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