Time Nick Message 00:22 blaise is the public server list and mod store broken in minetest-0.4.13 ? 00:24 rubenwardy no? 00:24 rubenwardy the mod store is 00:24 rubenwardy it's no longer online for any version 00:25 rubenwardy are you sure you've built with curl? 00:25 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kilbith -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Speed-up creative inventory initializing (~10x faster) 13b8333cf http://git.io/vRzPs (152015-12-06T00:22:12Z) 00:25 blaise yes 00:43 Fixer hmhm 00:55 Fixer this PC is so strange 00:55 Fixer no detected network adapters, nothing unknown 00:57 asl97 Fixer: i am guessing you broken your driver, check the device manager in the control panel 00:58 Fixer device manager is allright 00:58 Fixer batshit crazy nforce motherboard 01:00 Blekpug Building a bridge seems terribly hard. Am I missing a technique? 01:00 rubenwardy sneak building? 01:00 rubenwardy press shift, it slows you down and stops you falling off the end of a block 01:01 Fixer asl97, motherboard has problems, can halt on reboots for no reason 01:01 asl97 Fixer: you can try changing the driver in the device manager 01:01 Fixer also, integrated network could be broken 01:01 Fixer asl97, there is _nothing_ in driver manager 01:01 Fixer asl97, no network card, no unknown devices 01:02 Fixer looked in BIOS at practically everything 01:02 Fixer no lack 01:02 Fixer wth :( 01:02 Hirato heh, i find windows drivers pretty dodgy to be honest 01:02 asl97 boot into linux and use lspci 01:02 asl97 Fixer: ^ 01:02 asl97 if linux doesn't detect it, then it's broken 01:02 Fixer it is some nvidia MCP67 network shit 01:02 Fixer i will try that 01:03 Hirato the nvidia driver crashes all the time there, and the sound driver is weird as hell; I plug in my head phones and it notices I've plugged something it, it shows a popup to that effect, but it doesn't initialise it properly at all; I have to go into the device manager to disable and then enable the device every time 01:04 Fixer also, last nvidia driver for that chipset BSODs at boot 01:04 Hirato that aside, been too scared to boot into windows ever since windows 10 was released >_> 01:04 Fixer funny 01:04 Fixer i will give it a try tommorrow 01:04 Fixer is there any fancy livecd? 01:04 asl97 any major distro is fine 01:05 blaise I'm particularly fond of grml livecd and systemrescuecd 01:05 blaise I use funtoo as an installed linux distro though 01:06 Fixer wait, I have HirenCD and it has PartedMagic :} 01:06 blaise awesome 01:07 Fixer PartedMagic is a small linux distro 01:08 blaise yeah, I wish it was still free 01:08 blaise they went commercial and charge for download now 01:09 blaise it's got a bunch of really cool utils on it 01:09 blaise one of my most commonly used ones was the ntpass program nested on freedos.. 01:09 blaise people forget there passwords and are willing to pay money for people to get them back into their machines 01:11 Fixer good news is that I have a spare network card somewhere, so if i can plug into pci slot 01:11 Fixer bb 01:12 blaise I have usb, pci, micro pci, pcie, micro pcie, pcmcia, and cardbus network interface adapters 01:12 blaise it's disgusting 01:12 blaise I've used everything from a single copper wire, to a bidirectional parallel port to connect computers to a network 01:13 blaise bbl, gonna go play rift 01:13 blaise lmao 01:17 hawksquawks Ok got my server running thanks :) 01:45 bleak_fire_ hi 01:45 bleak_fire_ i had a question about the protection mod, if anyone here can help me 01:45 bleak_fire_ are the protected doors supposed to be like the steel doors, or are they only supposed to be protected if the area is protected? 01:46 bleak_fire_ iron i mean 01:50 bleak_fire_ protector redo mod 01:52 LazyJ I'm only familiar with the Areas mod. With that mod, the regular doors can be opened by anyone with interact but they can not be permanently removed. 01:52 LazyJ Except by the Area owner or those with the "areas" priv. 01:53 bleak_fire_ ok 01:53 bleak_fire_ this is the one i'm using 01:53 LazyJ If there is enough lag, players can dig through nodes, gain entry, and then the protection mod catches up and fills the dug nodes back in. 01:53 bleak_fire_ https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9376&sid=6bf35b374f329452f9021e6808c9dac6 01:54 bleak_fire_ because i upgraded to the new one with the trapdoor and i want to make sure it's working properly 01:54 bleak_fire_ it would seem to be but it says "nodes" so i'm not sure 01:54 LazyJ I haven't used that mod before so I have no idea., 01:54 bleak_fire_ k 01:55 bleak_fire_ this is a brand new update, just released a few days ago 01:55 bleak_fire_ with the iron doors, only the player can open that door 01:55 bleak_fire_ but with the protected doors in this mod, they seem to be openable, unless the area is protected by a logo 01:56 bleak_fire_ i dont know if that's to be expected or if i should report something, i don't really use protected doors so i wasnt paying attention 01:56 LazyJ TenPlus1 operates the Xanadu server. Try logging in and ask the folks there. 02:01 behalebabo bleak_fire_: Protected doors work with protection, if there is no protection then anyone can open them, othewise only the people in the protection can 02:02 bleak_fire_ ok 02:02 bleak_fire_ it's not like the iron doors then, where only the placer can open them 02:02 behalebabo yes, iron doors are limited to one player only, but protected doors can be used by all members in a protected area 02:03 bleak_fire_ ok 02:03 bleak_fire_ and that would be the logo or block only, not something you added to the doors and trapdoors themselves?? 02:04 behalebabo yes 02:04 bleak_fire_ ok good 02:04 bleak_fire_ working as expected then 02:04 bleak_fire_ thank you 09:37 Krock "I Would like to stay but my daywillsuck-o-meter is going off" 09:37 Krock But isn't it good when the suck-o-meter goes off? 09:41 Obani Krock, that's why he leaves :p 09:44 Krock Obani, he returned.. 10:00 Obani Krock, I don't mind, I didn' know wwho were you talking about 10:01 Krock Obani, oh right. You joined after he left 10:01 Obani he = ? 10:01 Krock talking about CWz 10:30 Blekpug What is ABM? 10:30 Blekpug "Adding lots of ABMs can cause a lot of lag" 10:33 Obani Blekpug, If I understand it well, and ABM is an action acting permanently on map and made with a mod 10:33 Obani Example : flowers and trees growing 10:33 Obani Mobs spawning 10:34 Blekpug So many moonflowers makes your map slow? http://wiki.minetest.net/Mods:Nature#Moon_Flower_.5Bmoonflower.5D_by_MirceaKitsune 10:35 Obani Of course 10:35 Obani Cause it means manys ABMs of flowers growing at the same time 10:35 Obani And acting permanently on the server 10:37 Blekpug Is it different from the case of apple trees? 10:40 MinetestBot 02[git] 04zhangjunphy -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix spelling of noise_threshold 13a78dd7f http://git.io/vRgpl (152015-12-06T11:38:03+01:00) 10:42 hicoleri Is there a PPA repo for mods for minetest? 10:43 Obani I think but if I remember well it's not really updated 10:43 Krock hicoleri, most of them are on GitHub, so no PPA needed 10:44 hicoleri krock: okay 10:53 Blekpug How is the player respawn point chosen? I notice it is not at /home 10:54 Blekpug Can the respawn point be moved by the player? 11:03 Ingar anything recent in git that's worth uipdating for ? 11:11 Blekpug Someone wish to commend a crafting guide? I'm seeking one. 11:12 Ingar there's this simple one 11:12 Ingar that places some kind of sign you can click to get crafting guide 11:14 Ingar Blekpug: http://cornernote.github.io/minetest-craft_guide/ 11:39 MinetestBot 02[git] 04kilbith -> 03BlockMen/minetest_next: Add search field to creative inventory 133df5fc9 http://git.io/vR2LC (152015-12-06T12:03:18+01:00) 11:54 Blekpug Ropes mod crashed 12:01 Fixer back 12:06 Blekpug If you remove a mod which provides items, is there a convenient way to clean the world of unknown items? 12:13 Fixer ... and lspci shows absence of network :/ 12:14 kaeza o/ 12:19 Fixer o\ 12:21 * Fixer has no idea what is going on 12:33 luizrpgluiz hi :) 12:41 Blekpug 3D toches mod gives error. 12:41 Calinou Blekpug, try Carbone Torches 12:48 Obani Blekpug, try /clearobjects 12:48 Obani (for what you asked upper) 13:03 Blekpug Thanks everyone. 13:09 Blekpug Idea: straw could cushion falls 13:09 Blekpug wool also 13:30 Fixer that network card is working again after full PC disconnect from power 13:32 Krock best disconnect when the PC is still running 13:44 Krock uh oh 13:46 Matsetes Hi! Is it possible that the pine trees delete the block under the sapling when growing? 13:47 Krock Matsetes, yeah. That happens with some trees - so no wonder, the pine tree does the same 13:47 Matsetes How to fix that? 13:49 Krock Is it a MTG tree? 13:49 Matsetes MTG? 13:49 Krock minetest_game 13:50 Matsetes Yes 13:50 Matsetes Oh, well, I think so 13:50 Matsetes Is it possibile that plantlife replace them? 13:51 Krock use F5, then point on the trunk. If the texture starts with default: it's an MTG one 13:51 Matsetes I will see immediately 13:52 Krock because if it's an MTG pine tree, it's quite impossible: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/trees.lua#L347 13:52 CWz Just found out that voxelands no has public server list which by default announces to the public server list. really this should have been mention of this. where is the voxelands channel 13:52 Krock lowest tree block is where the sapling stoodf 13:52 Krock *stood 13:54 Krock CWz, on the website. irc.entropynet.net #voxelands 13:56 Krock !c math.e**math.pi-math.pi 13:56 Krock MinetestBot! 13:56 MinetestBot 19.99909997918947 13:56 MinetestBot Krock! 13:56 Krock Quite late, this answer :/ 14:12 CWz welp as far as i can tell voxelands doens't have the option of setting server_announce to false as far as I can tell 14:18 Krock editing the source may help 14:59 Blekpug How can I adjust the frequency at which coal occurs in the map? 15:00 Blekpug Alternatively, I could adjust the lighting distance of torches 15:21 Krock Blekpug, starting at which depth? 15:22 Krock https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua#L136 15:22 Krock lower 'clust_scarcity' = higher frequency 16:01 Matsetes Krock it's the default pine 16:02 Matsetes And I've seen three of them in the act of growing and destroying the block under them replacing it with the wood 16:05 Matsetes Ah, I use mapgen v7 16:14 rubenwardy fuck. look at that lag line: http://minetest.rubenwardy.com/stats/ 16:21 Krock 160 players lag 16:21 Krock interesting time unit 16:24 rubenwardy it's ms x 100, iirc 16:26 Matsetes Krock ? Did you read? 16:27 Matsetes I am really loosing a lot of dirt blocks with that bug (cause I really think it's a bug) 16:28 Krock Matsetes, yes I did. But the code says something different 16:34 Matsetes So where did the problem come from? 16:35 Matsetes Is it possible that another mod causes the tree to grow that way? 16:37 Krock maybe 16:37 Matsetes Even if the tree is the default one? 16:38 Krock any mod could place default stuff 16:39 Krock and override public functions 16:41 Matsetes Uhmmm I will ask VanessaE (if I find her) if her plantlife can cause this bug 16:41 Matsetes Cause I think is the only mod that have the interest to work on trees 16:42 VanessaE no, it probably can't. 16:42 VanessaE :P 16:42 Matsetes Lol, hi! 16:42 VanessaE hi 16:42 Matsetes If it's not that mod... Which one? 16:43 VanessaE the only combination I can think of in plantlife involving trees and default nodes is the beech tree from the moretrees mod, and it's disabled by default. 16:43 Matsetes VanessaE, I am using mapgen v7 and the problem seems to afflict only pine trees 16:43 VanessaE let me guess 16:43 VanessaE the bottom-most node is replaced? 16:43 Matsetes Yes 16:44 VanessaE update your minetest engine 16:44 Matsetes The node under the tree 16:44 VanessaE paramat fixed that bug a while ago 16:44 VanessaE (it affects jungle trees too) 16:44 Matsetes Ok! Krock told me it was not from the default game 16:44 Krock I didn't say that 16:44 VanessaE update that, too 16:44 Matsetes Perhaps he was thinking of the latest one 16:44 VanessaE I don't remember if it was a change in the tree schematic or in the engine 16:44 Krock It's just that the current MTG code says something different in my eyes 16:45 Matsetes Oh, Krock, anyway thanks =) 16:45 Krock :/ np 16:45 Matsetes And thanks VanessaE 16:45 VanessaE yw 16:47 Matsetes Another question, now that I am here... 16:48 Matsetes Is it normal that grass spawns and spreads very very quickly? 16:49 Matsetes I always have to harvest it and that is so boring and time wasting 16:50 VanessaE do you mean jungle grass? 16:50 Matsetes No, normal grass 16:50 VanessaE not sure 16:50 Matsetes The one which gives wheat seeds 16:50 VanessaE I've never heard of that kind of grass being able to spread 16:51 Matsetes Well, if it doesn't spread it sure spawns 16:51 Matsetes I have regularly to clean... 16:51 VanessaE well you're running plantlife, so it's gonna spawn a LOT of grass, but only at mapgen time 16:51 VanessaE (which if your machine is slow, could be as much as 5 minutes after a given block has been emerged) 16:52 Matsetes I don't know about jungle grass, cause my house is far away from it 16:52 Matsetes Emerged? In which sense? 16:52 VanessaE generated for the first time. 16:52 Matsetes Okay I know that 16:53 VanessaE guess I should be specific :) 16:54 Matsetes For example I built a house, surrounded by walls, but I left the floor with dirt-with-grass and I cleaned all the grass 16:54 Matsetes Later there was grass in that room 16:55 VanessaE odd 16:55 VanessaE of course you shouldn't make a floor our of dirt-with-grass anyway 16:55 VanessaE (if you REALLY need it, use moreblocks' fake grass) 16:56 Matsetes Okay, it was an example =D 16:56 VanessaE because even if the grass hadn't spread there, flowers eventually would have :) 16:56 VanessaE but I get the point 16:56 Matsetes But flowers have to be near, no? 16:56 VanessaE yes 16:56 VanessaE last I knew 16:59 Matsetes Is it possible that farming mod changes that grass stuff? 17:07 Krock gawd.. rewriting the mod crawler API isn't that asy as I expected :< 17:07 Krock *easy 17:50 * Fixer dives in 18:57 paramat Matsetes yes update to latest MTGame if you can, now all sapling-grown trees don't replace dirt. however mapgen trees still have a root in the ground and this is causing ugly holes so i will fix that too 19:10 Krock MinetestBot! 19:10 Krock dat lag 19:10 MinetestBot Krock! 19:23 Obani rubenwardy, Is there a teamchat command in ctf_pvp_engine ? 19:23 Fixer LOL 19:23 Fixer what kind of as-hole is installing javaw.exe in system32 directory, wtf? 19:23 Fixer for banking program 19:24 Krock delete system32. 19:24 rubenwardy Obani, /t 19:24 Fixer right away 19:24 Obani rubenwardy, nice 19:24 rubenwardy it's defined in ctf_chat 19:25 Fixer before that: i wanted to make clean install, installed java 8, ... and it won't detect it... good to have zipped backup ;) 19:26 Obani rubenwardy, you should remove those reloads :/ 19:26 Obani (map reloads) 19:26 Obani They create HUUUUGE lags 19:27 Obani afk 19:27 Fixer oh gwad, i need to manually install 130 updates, because builtin tool is broken 19:28 rubenwardy If you don't reset the map, then there will be junk left over. So I'm a bit stuck 19:28 Krock repair builtin tool first? 19:32 Fixer Krock, how? it shows me updates but Next button greyed out :} 19:32 Krock lol 19:32 Fixer they are trolling me 19:33 Fixer now i need to download gigabyte of updates 19:33 Krock Did you ask your friend for a solution? (google) 19:34 Fixer i've looked at google briefly 19:34 Fixer good it is unbanned me 19:38 Obani rubenwardy, but you reload it with another seed, don't you ? 19:38 Obani rubenwardy, maybe should you add a waiting time of 20 seconds for the map can generate properly ? 19:38 Obani afk 19:40 Obani rubenwardy, removing grass and their ABM should light the server a bit :) (and so the lags) 19:42 rubenwardy Obani, it's the same seed. I'm planning on removing the grass ABM but I need a better mapgen iirc 19:42 Obani afk 20:21 Fixer found a link to update installer \o/ no need to download 120 updates, installer is 700mb exe 20:21 twoelk yay all the minetest videos I recorded with kazam on xubuntu look are black and white with a psychodelic color patern overlay in windows - that is if they run at all 20:21 rubenwardy lol 20:21 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?search_id=egosearch 20:21 rubenwardy "egosearch" 20:21 Obani twoelk, don't use Kazam 20:22 Obani use simplescreenrecorder 20:22 rubenwardy I use it to get the topics which I have recently replied to 20:22 rubenwardy +1 for simplescreenrecorder 20:22 rubenwardy never had a problem 20:22 twoelk hmm 20:23 rubenwardy 10/10. Once I tried it, I never went back to my old recorder. 20:23 rubenwardy money back guarantee 20:23 Obani And it is very light 20:23 twoelk some of this weird stuff looks pretty cool in a verry gothic way 20:25 Obani twoelk, seriously, use simplescreenrecorder. Easy, to compile, easy to make work, lag-less and rare bugs 20:27 twoelk hmm I might champion them strange videos harrison used to post with these :-D 20:54 Obani rubenwardy, Do you think a craft_guide would be a good add for the ctf ? 20:55 rubenwardy I don't think that there should be enough craftable things to make a craft guide worth while. I'd like more of a multichoice crafter, where it shows all the outputs possible with your current inv 21:31 rubenwardy I always forget to write "cmd" when doing IRC commands :( 21:44 Fixer ._. 22:00 nolsen Ubuntu is the best OS <3 22:17 JohnnyComeL8ly !server linuxgaming2 22:17 MinetestBot JohnnyComeL8ly: LinuxGaming2.com | LinuxGaming2.com | Clients: 0/15, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 100ms 22:22 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Default: Remove root from mapgen trees and large cactus 1325e1f84 http://git.io/vRVdG (152015-12-06T22:19:23Z) 22:23 nolsen ...I just compiled minetest. 22:23 BlockMen nolsen : no need to recompile, its just lua ^ 22:23 BlockMen or better, a binary file 22:25 JohnnyComeL8ly BlockMen, I'd be hard pressed to say it better than that. 22:27 BlockMen :) 22:27 JohnnyComeL8ly :-D 22:32 MinetestBot 02[git] 04BlockMen -> 03BlockMen/minetest_next: Add some new sounds by @IngarKCT 13bafe9ce http://git.io/vRVF5 (152015-12-06T23:30:11+01:00) 22:33 Fixer aaaaaa 22:34 Fixer corpse is moving! 22:34 JohnnyComeL8ly Fixer, didya think you were caught up on the MT compiling? 22:34 Fixer nope 22:34 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh, ok, which one? 22:34 Fixer MT one 22:43 BlockMen oh, wow. since first release of my creatures mod it got nearly 12000 times downloaded o.O 22:44 afflatus How long ago did you release it? 22:44 JohnnyComeL8ly Just some random folks with amnesia and big hard drives.... ;-) 22:45 JohnnyComeL8ly BlockMen: (Above is the reason why....) 22:45 BlockMen first version was released 2014-04-27 13:36:21 22:45 BlockMen JohnnyComeL8ly, seems reasonable ^^ 22:46 JohnnyComeL8ly Totally, right? :-D 22:46 afflatus Not too shabby ;) 22:46 BlockMen yes 22:47 JohnnyComeL8ly So, not even a year.... 22:47 harrison twoelk thank u 4 saying that 22:47 BlockMen JohnnyComeL8ly : umm, we have december 2015... 22:48 BlockMen its more than a year 22:49 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh, duh... I got this year's number mixed up: what a way to go down. :-] 22:50 afflatus Now known as: JohnnyComeL7ly 22:51 JohnnyComeL8ly rofl 22:52 BlockMen hmm...w/e. 597 since nov 16th 2015 seems not bad at all :) 22:52 JohnnyComeL8ly afflatus subtracticus, who's next? ;-) 23:18 afflatus !server name:"Grail Test" 23:18 MinetestBot afflatus: No results 23:18 afflatus I thought not 23:19 afflatus I wish I knew why server_announce rarely works 23:19 JohnnyComeL8ly !server "Grail Test" 23:19 MinetestBot JohnnyComeL8ly: No results 23:39 rubenwardy !server Grail Test 23:39 MinetestBot rubenwardy: No results 23:39 rubenwardy !server GrailTest 23:40 rubenwardy !server Capture the Flag 23:40 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Capture the Flag (Guns!) | minetest.rubenwardy.com | Clients: 11/19, 14/19 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / capturetheflag | Ping: 1ms 23:44 afflatus !server addr:grailtest.gigaworld.org 23:44 MinetestBot afflatus: No results 23:44 afflatus Possibly wrong syntax fot that? 23:47 afflatus Oh I see, it won't find it if server_announce isn't doing its job 23:56 afflatus The only thing I can think of is that my version of minetest-server may have been compiled with a different version of curl. Not a biggie right now.