Time Nick Message 01:24 rubenwardy 2015-12-02 19:49:08: ACTION[Server]: Player yasminmaria8729 tried to access [node under=-60,-9,87 above=-60,-8,87] from too far: d=1852.4, max_d=140. ignoring. 01:24 rubenwardy ./runserver.sh: line 21: 4844 Segmentation fault (core dumped) ../minetest/bin/minetestserver --gameid capturetheflag --port 30000 --logfile logs/debug_$DATE.txt 01:24 rubenwardy :'() 01:38 rubenwardy It's funny to watch banned people changing their names to try and get in 01:38 afflatus Hilarious 01:48 * afflatus has to accept that he just can't be arsed to code the next feature 02:36 rubenwardy more stats! 02:38 rubenwardy http://minetest.rubenwardy.com/stats/ 02:45 LazyJ Only slightly more Linux users than Windows users. That is actually a bit surprising. 02:45 LazyJ Android use being off the charts... Ugh... 02:46 LazyJ I wonder if the large amount of Android users contributes to MT 0.4.11's higher use? 02:48 LazyJ Oh. Joys. I just compiled the latest MT from GitHub and I'm logging in to the servers I frequent. So far, every server I've visited, I've spawned several hundred to server thousand meters below the surface. :/ 02:48 rubenwardy It's possible that my statistics are wrong 02:48 LazyJ "Lies, damned lies, and statistics." :0) 02:50 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/496c9236e459d8b180f4 02:50 rubenwardy other is almost entirely "MultiCraft 1.0.0" 02:51 rubenwardy Infinitely simpler than rrdtool, VanessaE ^ 02:51 rubenwardy although I'll have problems when I get a lot of data 02:53 rubenwardy LazyJ, Android almost certainly contributes to 0.4.11's over use 02:55 LazyJ Android is not the source of my tired patience, its most, not all but most, of the kids that try to use the MT apps on servers that are not tuned for small devices. 02:56 thePalindrome That sounds highly problematic 02:57 rubenwardy is not the source? 02:58 rubenwardy my results would probably be different to yours as mine is a PvP server 03:04 rubenwardy added all the files needed: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/496c9236e459d8b180f4 03:06 rubenwardy added lua script and readme 03:48 arsdragonfly !server arsdragonfly 03:48 MinetestBot arsdragonfly: Arsdragonfly's Landrush! Minetest server | arsenalmp.noip.me:30001 | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 274ms 10:06 amadin Hi, does enybody know mod to show world map except Mapit, i saw mod which show world map it internet web browser, but i can't find it 10:52 amadin_ Does anybody know mods which can show map of world? 10:58 kahrl_ amadin_: "show world map it internet web browser" <-- MTSatellite? 10:58 kahrl_ example: http://maps.mt.sha-bang.de/ 10:59 amadin_ yeah 10:59 amadin_ thanks 13:04 sfan5 ayy 13:36 Fixer what? 14:22 Jordach sfan5, lmao 14:31 Fixer VanessaE, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/3421 17:17 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=200639#p200639 17:17 rubenwardy Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:54 pm 17:17 rubenwardy Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:39 pm 17:17 rubenwardy I still think we should have a delete and warn policy on bumps like these 17:27 Krock2 Kickban 17:27 Fixer what is problem with necroposting? never understood it, is it hard on server/software or smth? 17:29 Ingar delete bump 17:30 Ingar you lazy moderators 17:30 Fixer delete if only there are no similar never threads 17:31 Ingar there are exceptions, but in my book a necro like this gets instadeleted 17:32 Ingar ofc, the forum rules said not to raise the ead 17:32 Ingar dead 17:32 sofar is there a way to auto-close dead bodies? 17:33 Ingar our forum gave the potential poster an actual warning 17:33 Calinou sofar, some forum software does this but I'm not fond of it 17:33 Fixer potential? o.O 17:33 Calinou sometimes, necroposting can be useful 17:33 Fixer libastral.so? 17:34 Ingar phpBB sucks 17:34 Fixer everything sucks 17:34 Ingar SMF sucked slightly less 17:34 sofar forums suck 17:34 Ingar yes, that's why we're on IRC 17:35 sofar lol 17:35 Calinou Discourse/Flarum/NodeBB, the golden trio :) 17:35 Calinou everything else is stuck in 2002 17:35 Calinou (at best) 17:35 Calinou like this: http://kristopolous.github.io/BOOTSTRA.386/ 17:46 Krock Omg that page has a fail. Buttons wouldn't get highlighted by moving the mouse over it 17:50 Calinou they do 17:51 Calinou do you use IE 8? :p 17:53 Fixer "The announcement of OpenIndiana was met with a mainly positive response; over 350 people[10] viewed the online announcement, the ISO image was downloaded over 2000 times,[10] the Twitter account obtained over 500 followers,[11] and numerous notable IT press websites wrote about the release.[9][12][13][14][15][16] The broadcast bandwidth of the announcement was substantial, noted to top 350Mbit/second." 17:53 Fixer not sure if troll 18:01 Calinou heh 18:06 Krock Calinou, hell no, they do highlight, but not in a real M$-D0S application 18:08 Fixer they do 18:08 Fixer fonts are somewhat blurry 18:10 Krock agree(); 18:10 Fixer biggest question... is whyyyy? Isn't you can that feel by just using elinks or links or whtvr 19:14 behalebabo is on_construct or on_place called first? 19:15 Krock it's placed first, then initialited/constructed 19:15 Krock you mya also want to debug it using print() or minetest.log() 19:16 Krock *may 19:16 Calinou Fixer, satire :P 19:18 Calinou https://github.com/apple/swift/pull/17 19:18 Calinou lol 19:19 Calinou just posted :suspect: on it 19:22 Calinou that too: https://github.com/github/gemoji/blob/master/images/emoji/fu.png 19:24 est31 lool 19:38 Fixer Calinou, lol, i've just read about that link on another place 19:39 * Fixer >_> RealBadAngel 20:25 behalebabo what mistake am I making with this line? the only field I see is the label field: meta:set_string("formspec", "field[label;Label;${label}];field[channel;Channel;${channel}]") 20:27 rubenwardy I don't think that ${label} 20:27 rubenwardy is valid 20:27 rubenwardy !g lua ${} 20:27 MinetestBot rubenwardy: http://www.lua.org/ 20:27 rubenwardy thanks 20:27 behalebabo label is a special name? 20:27 rubenwardy does lua allow that? 20:27 behalebabo this is a formspec 20:27 rubenwardy yes 20:27 est31 !g lua dereference variable inside string 20:27 MinetestBot est31: http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringInterpolation 20:28 rubenwardy ok 20:28 est31 so doesnt work 20:28 behalebabo however, I see the value of the label metadata value in the field 20:28 rubenwardy field doesn't have a pos and size - wouldn't you need them for more than one 20:28 rubenwardy also, don't you mean label[] or staticlabel (I forget) 20:29 behalebabo no, this is a field to set a label on the node 20:29 rubenwardy ah 20:29 rubenwardy but still 20:29 rubenwardy you need pos and size 20:29 rubenwardy otherwise they're probably both be in the same spot 20:29 rubenwardy field[x,y;w,h;... 20:30 rubenwardy http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/lua_api.html#fieldxywhnamelabeldefault 20:30 rubenwardy you're using http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/lua_api.html#fieldnamelabeldefault 20:30 behalebabo apparently seperating the fields with a ' ' instead of ';' works 20:30 rubenwardy which doesn't support positions 20:31 rubenwardy ; is the right one 20:31 rubenwardy 100% certain 20:31 behalebabo this works exactly how I intend: field[label;Label;${label}] field[channel;Channel;${channel}] 20:32 rubenwardy oh 20:32 rubenwardy that's what you meant 20:32 thePalindrome What did you guys do when you put together a testing group? 20:32 rubenwardy you don't even need a space there 20:53 thePalindrome Or do y'all bother with beta groups? 20:54 est31 thePalindrome, currently there is no real "beta group" for minetest 20:55 est31 people just report regressions they have 20:55 est31 so the format is open 20:56 thePalindrome Not for engine development, mod development 21:01 rubenwardy servers are the best place to test mods 21:01 rubenwardy imo 21:01 rubenwardy ctf never crashes now 21:09 thePalindrome Wait, so if I ran a server with mods, the clients would download them from me? 21:11 rubenwardy kind of 21:11 rubenwardy mods are server side 21:11 rubenwardy you don't send scripts to clients 21:11 rubenwardy you only send textures 21:11 rubenwardy and the parts of node defs and item defs that the client needs 21:12 rubenwardy (like description, drawtype, groups, etc, no callbacks) 21:15 thePalindrome Huh, I"ll have to figure it out later. See y'all in an hour 21:21 Fixer damned 21:21 Fixer cough'ed on my monitor, now it looks even worse 21:33 est31 rubenwardy, why are nametag colors disabled? 21:33 rubenwardy because it's too easy to see if the enemy is sneaking up 21:34 rubenwardy what I'd like is a way to control what nametags a player can see 21:34 est31 and why no furnace 21:34 rubenwardy there's no use for it 21:34 est31 I'm stuck now, underground 21:34 est31 have mined, wanted to make new pick 21:34 est31 wanted to get back to my base via mining 21:35 est31 meh, no sticks 21:35 rubenwardy ... what nametags a player can seeso that a player can only see their team mates, and enemy 21:35 rubenwardy voltus? 21:36 est31 no 21:36 rubenwardy a /killme command would be good 21:36 est31 not existent 21:36 rubenwardy the aim of this game isn't to craft things 21:36 rubenwardy it's to find them in chests 21:37 Fixer rubenwardy, suggestions: 1) disable nametags totally 2) give each team its unique skin 21:37 est31 skin is unique 21:37 rubenwardy 2) each team does have it's own unique skin 21:37 rubenwardy *its 21:37 Fixer rubenwardy, 3) write a mod suggesting to players to update old clients :p 21:37 rubenwardy 3. done 21:37 est31 3) isnt possible 21:37 est31 sapier blocks against it 21:37 rubenwardy in C++ it is: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/9859d09c2ff1748e64e5 21:37 est31 at least if you have no debug build 21:37 Fixer wat? 21:37 Fixer ah 21:38 Fixer "Thats kinda odd. I run over 104 mods and I see about 100-200MB per player on Ubuntu 14.04.2 Desktop x64. I've never ran into swap unless I was doing some excessive use of WorldEdit." 21:38 Fixer LOL 21:38 Fixer just 100mb per player 21:39 Calinou that's what Minecraft uses, Fixer 21:39 Calinou on server 21:39 est31 LOL just 100 mods 21:39 Fixer yes 21:39 Fixer that's MT for you 21:39 rubenwardy can I limit the nametag distance without making the players disappear? 21:40 Calinou not that I know of 21:40 Calinou such a thing would be easy to "revert" client-side anyway, to reuse jeb_'s language :) 21:40 Fixer Calinou, but but that was crappy Java 21:40 est31 rubenwardy, it works, but requires c++ code 21:40 rubenwardy yeah 21:40 est31 just change the nametag color alpha to zero 21:40 est31 for those you want to make disappear 21:40 rubenwardy but that's for everyone 21:41 rubenwardy not distance related 21:41 rubenwardy also, isn't there the problem with text shadows? 21:41 est31 it got resolved 21:41 rubenwardy awesome 21:41 est31 but not in stable release yet 21:41 rubenwardy old clients though? 21:41 est31 well there it is not possible 21:42 rubenwardy almost 50% of clients are older than 0.4.13 stable: http://minetest.rubenwardy.com/stats/ 21:43 Fixer rubenwardy, graphs look like crap 21:43 Fixer btw 21:44 rubenwardy gnuplot 21:44 rubenwardy quick and simple 21:44 rubenwardy mostly 21:44 Fixer rubenwardy, please add at axis info on #2 and #3 21:44 Fixer "add axis" 21:44 Fixer whatever 21:45 rubenwardy At that time I thought that I shouldn't share the exact numbers, but meh 21:46 est31 make it like the US gvt 21:46 est31 there they have to censor every letter after a noun 21:46 est31 bc there could be a plural s :) 21:47 rubenwardy done 21:48 rubenwardy Fixer's proposal, that is 21:51 Fixer rubenwardy, thanks! 22:01 rubenwardy Fixer, added antialiasing to the graphs 22:01 Fixer nice 22:02 Fixer rubenwardy, about #2 and #3, maybe SHARE, % is better than count of players? 22:02 Calinou anti-aliasing is love, anti-aliasing is life 22:02 rubenwardy not sure how to do that, will find out 22:05 rubenwardy source code: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/496c9236e459d8b180f4 22:06 MinetestBot 02[git] 04susnux -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix build if BUILD_SHARED_LIBS defaults to "ON" 13d8975ea http://git.io/vRnCu (152015-12-03T21:35:22+01:00) 22:16 Calinou >4,859 stars today 22:16 Calinou on apple/swift GitHub 22:17 rubenwardy the world has a lot of apple fan boys 22:27 rubenwardy so, what is your opinion on https://github.com/rubenwardy/capturetheflag/issues/14 22:27 rubenwardy !itle 22:28 rubenwardy !title 22:28 MinetestBot rubenwardy: About Crafting · Issue #14 · rubenwardy/capturetheflag · GitHub 22:28 rubenwardy Should CTF be a crafting game? 22:29 rubenwardy The content in CTF will probably be different to main Minetest. I'd like more of a multichoice thing, where you select what you want to craft from a grid and the things you can't craft are greyed out 22:29 rubenwardy also, I just readded furnaces 22:29 rubenwardy until I fix the crafting issues 23:46 luizrpgluiz hi :) 23:47 LazyJ Any CC Non-Commercial experts care to add their input to this post?: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13684 23:50 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello, luizrpgluiz. 23:50 JohnnyComeL8ly :-P 23:51 luizrpgluiz JohnnyComeL8ly: hi :) 23:53 JohnnyComeL8ly LazyJ, I'm no "expert" but I find that permissible. Since it is, in a sense, a service that he is providing.