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00:02 JohnnyComeL8ly rubenwardy, I'm kinda surprised that that "little" kid is using that language.... :-P
00:03 rubenwardy yeah
00:03 rubenwardy I was like, wat
00:03 Obani What language ?
00:03 JohnnyComeL8ly Watch the video.
00:03 Obani I watched enough of it
00:04 JohnnyComeL8ly Ok, than how can you miss what we were talking about?
00:04 JohnnyComeL8ly He used a ~common adult expletive....
00:05 Obani I watched enough of it = 30 seconds
00:05 Fixer that is not surprising at all
00:05 Fixer kids swear a lot
00:05 Fixer suddenly!
00:05 JohnnyComeL8ly Not so much... it is just while your back is turned.
00:06 Obani pineapples !
00:06 JohnnyComeL8ly And, then, being mentally exercised in that fashion, it slips.
00:06 Fixer not always
00:06 Fixer sometimes they swear in presence of parents... because parents swear too :p
00:07 JohnnyComeL8ly Yeah, you're right.
00:07 Fixer or heared from children in kindergarten
00:07 JohnnyComeL8ly Getting it from paternals is even worse, imo.
00:08 JohnnyComeL8ly "If it is bad, then why do it, Dad?
00:08 JohnnyComeL8ly "
00:09 hoodedice VanessaE, Fixer, nvidia
00:09 hoodedice shit
00:09 hoodedice fucking enter key
00:09 Fixer nvidia?
00:09 JohnnyComeL8ly Was where it was was supposed to be.
00:09 hoodedice nVidia's shadow play records stuff with drops of at most 2-4 fps
00:09 Fixer nice
00:09 hoodedice intel has something similar called Quick Sync
00:09 Fixer interesting if ATI has something similar
00:10 hoodedice what is ati?
00:11 hoodedice "ATI Technologies Inc. (commonly called ATI) *was* a semiconductor technology corporation based in Markham, Ontario, Canada" *emphasis mine*
00:11 Fixer sigh
00:11 Fixer it is AMD Radeon
00:12 Fixer it is now AMD
00:12 Fixer people still call it ATI
00:12 JohnnyComeL8ly Yeah... he likes to point that out, but he messes up on the keyboard and hits the ___ enter key....
00:13 hoodedice ' is a bitch to type
00:13 JohnnyComeL8ly Au contrair!
00:13 Fixer 3DFX, ATI, nVidia
00:13 hoodedice also, amd has an equivalent thing, but it is not as well known
00:13 JohnnyComeL8ly Typing is period.
00:14 Fixer that's the pioneers
00:14 Fixer are*
00:14 hoodedice uh, "that are"? "those are" would be better
00:14 JohnnyComeL8ly You have to ignore him....
00:14 hoodedice gosh, you're bringing the grammar nazi hoodedice back
00:14 Fixer 3DFX died, ATI was 199X-2010 or so, brought by AMD, nVidia is still there
00:15 hoodedice quick! post a line from eminem lyrics
00:15 hoodedice which has the most grammatical errors you can find
00:16 Fixer i've used GeForce 2MX400, ATI Radeon 9600XT and now AMD/ATI Radeon HD6870 (somewhat old but fast)
00:16 JohnnyComeL8ly Grammar nazi-ism is fine in some contexts, imo: I actually have to fight that in this setting.
00:16 hoodedice I have used intel igps all my life
00:16 JohnnyComeL8ly Fixer, how are the Mesa drivers for that?
00:16 JohnnyComeL8ly hoodedice, I feel sorry for you.
00:16 Fixer must be good
00:16 hoodedice hopefully my uncle gets rid of his old gtx 660 and I get to build a desktop off of it
00:17 JohnnyComeL8ly Build a desktop off the GPU... lol
00:17 hoodedice why not
00:17 hoodedice lol
00:17 hoodedice I say that because ideally I would be building an itx
00:17 hoodedice but if the gpu is too big I'll have to go atx
00:18 JohnnyComeL8ly Dude, mini-itx isn't worth it....
00:18 hoodedice I move between houses a lot
00:18 Fixer build ATX full tower
00:18 JohnnyComeL8ly Unless you are watercooling, and you have an external radiator with good quick disconnects.
00:19 hoodedice I am not, and I'll leave the radiator at where most of my clothes are
00:19 hoodedice which is how I identify my "main base"/permanent address
00:20 hoodedice TBH, I would rather get a laptop
00:20 hoodedice but (laptop performance : desktop performance)/price is like 1:10
00:21 JohnnyComeL8ly You are an odd bird... (somewhat of an easily applicable statement to most here).
00:21 hoodedice what do you mean >_>
00:21 hoodedice it is true, laptop perf on a $1000 laptop gets me something close to a $600 build
00:21 JohnnyComeL8ly I mean, you are weird in your owns sweet way. ;-)
00:22 hoodedice ...so I did exaggerate.
00:22 JohnnyComeL8ly *own
00:22 hoodedice http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834233113&cm_re=gigabyte_laptop-_-34-233-113-_-Product
00:22 JohnnyComeL8ly I was typing that out before you said that desktop : laptop thing.
00:23 JohnnyComeL8ly I fully agree with you on the feasibility of a laptop.
00:25 Fixer laptops are crap
00:25 Fixer crappy crap
00:25 Fixer with shitty screens
00:25 Fixer slow everything
00:25 Fixer just use glorious desktop PC
00:25 hoodedice I wish.
00:26 Fixer for the same money it will beat notebook to death
00:26 hoodedice gib $600
00:26 Fixer and no need to look at that [SHIT]1366*768[/SHIT] screen
00:26 hoodedice y'know 1080p in laptops is a thing
00:27 Fixer i've seen laptops >1000 usd with 1366*768, wtf?
00:27 JohnnyComeL8ly Yeah, but 1440p in desktops is even better.
00:27 JohnnyComeL8ly Or those 21:9 screens.
00:27 JohnnyComeL8ly Cool stuff.
00:27 Fixer I prefer 1600*1200
00:28 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm floating a 1280*1024
00:28 Fixer me too right now, but I want 1600*1200
00:29 Fixer 5:4 is somewhat squary, 4:3 with 1600:1200 is perfect
00:30 Fixer and no, I don't want 1920*1080 shit, only 1920 i will buy it is 1920*1200
00:31 Fixer too wide for me, and height is very low
00:31 Fixer too much scrolling and text is super wide
00:32 Fixer web looks like crap in 1080p
00:32 Fixer but fit in nicely in 1280*1024 screen
00:32 Fixer 1920*1080 is 50% empty space -> useless
00:33 Fixer black bars on the sides or worse (ads for sadists without adblock)
00:33 hoodedice I have a 1920x1200 at wok
00:33 hoodedice *work
00:33 hoodedice is okay
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00:41 JohnnyComeL8ly I have fried rice at wok.
00:41 JohnnyComeL8ly :-P
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00:50 stevr59 hi
00:55 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello.
00:56 Fixer i'm looking forward for realterrain on minetest
00:57 JohnnyComeL8ly That involves a bunch of slopes and stuff like that, right?
00:57 Fixer it means importing real terrain data from GEOTIFF or similar into minetest
00:58 Fixer so you can reconstruct real Earth terrain
00:58 Fixer i did that for OpenTTD, made map of Ukraine
00:58 Fixer There are high quality terrain maps on the internet
00:58 Fixer from NASA and so
00:59 Fixer they did a mission with a radar in 200X iirc
00:59 Fixer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_elevation_model
01:00 Fixer what i've seen is in greyscale... probably 255 levels
01:06 JohnnyComeL8ly Fixer, sounds like something for specialized worlds... maybe you should make your own "mapgen"
01:06 Fixer it is already in making by some guy
01:07 Fixer that is cool
01:07 JohnnyComeL8ly One that takes input from a formated text file and then makes the world with that, but doesn't go further.
01:10 DFeniks whats the resolution , thought? i can see someone building kilometers big according to scale :)
01:10 Fixer resolution is few meters per pixel
01:10 DFeniks ah,
01:11 Fixer or worse
01:12 DFeniks i wonder if entire world map could be downscaled
01:12 DFeniks might be interesting map
01:13 DFeniks maybe with heights exaggerated
01:15 Fixer could be
01:16 Fixer with 1km per block scale
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01:16 Fixer no
01:16 Fixer wait
01:16 Fixer it is 65k from side to side
01:17 Fixer and earth is 40k at the equator
01:17 Fixer 0.61km per block
01:17 Fixer or 1.6 blocks per km
01:18 Fixer it is doable
01:18 Fixer some pervert can make it for sure
01:18 Fixer gn
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01:36 behalebabo what does RTT mean in the status bar at the top of the MT window?
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02:36 Teckla behalebabo: Most likely, "round trip time"
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03:45 segfault22 hey yall
03:47 segfault22 I'm working on a mod which makes it easier to add stuff to the game; it automatically calculates properties for nodes and tools based on the properties of the material it is made of
03:48 segfault22 It's almost finished, and all that's left to do is figure out how to automatically assign dig groups to nodes based on the material it is made of, and assign groups and dig times to tools based on the material they are made of
03:49 segfault22 Instead of having to make a whole block of parameters in a minetest.register function call for every item node and tool, this reduces it to a single line for each object with just a few parameters
03:50 segfault22 So the mod files take up a lot less space, and it's easier to change which objects are added to the game
03:52 segfault22 I'm having problems with determining the dig times for a variable number of dig group levels for each dig group assigned to a tool
03:53 segfault22 It has to only assign a dig time for a dig group level to the tool, if the material it is made of is strong enough to dig that level
03:55 segfault22 We can't have empty dig group levels because that will cause problems,... maybe I can do some hackery with the "for _, row in ipairs()" trick, to iterate through the list of dig group levels and decide whether it can dig at that level based on the strength parameter of the tool
03:56 segfault22 For example, cracky level 3 is first, and any material with a strength greater than 0 can mine it (and if the strength is low like 1, it takes a long time)
03:56 segfault22 It goes level 3, level 2, level 1, level 4, level 5, etc. because the dig group levels were numbered backwards
03:57 segfault22 You can't do level 0, level -1, level -2 etc. because it will cause problems with how tool damage per use is calculated based on the dig group level number
03:58 segfault22 Also tools which mine level 4 nodes or above, will be damaged a lot less per use on those nodes, because it's backwards
03:58 segfault22 Maybe I should list off every name for people online, so someone can come give me tips or suggestions,... it feels so lonely here...
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04:23 segfault22 why is there almost nobody on the chat
04:24 segfault22 Surely someone is seeing all of my chat-messages and thinking about them, even if just an AI bot somewhere thats trying to learn how the stuff works before it decides to start taking over the world
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04:40 JohnnyComeL8ly segfault22, this is interesting, and I'm all for simplifying things, but I can't give an authoritative opinion.
04:41 segfault22 It's alright, I think I may have a way to make it work; the mechanism of it won't be simple at all, but it will make everything a breeze
04:41 segfault22 thank you for the insight
04:42 segfault22 and thank you for being here on the chat, it's usually very desolate here
04:49 JohnnyComeL8ly Just a bunch o' bones in a valley... Can these bones live?
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07:11 DI3HARD139 Where can I download libopenal at?
07:25 segfault22 sudo apt-get install
07:27 segfault22 thats only if youre using linux though; if windows, there is no reliable way except for downloading it manually, unpacking it manually, verifying the MD5sum manually and installing it manually and rebooting manually
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07:30 DI3HARD139 I already had it but didnt realize it as I have use a Creative SB sound card.
07:30 DI3HARD139 Now where can I get the Leveldb_library, Redis_library and ogg_library?
07:31 DI3HARD139 and the vorbis files??
07:47 RealBadAngel sudo apt-get install build-essential libirrlicht-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libfreetype6-dev zlib1g-dev libgmp-dev libjsoncpp-dev
07:48 RealBadAngel that will install for you all whats needed
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08:46 Krock That situation when you decide it's better to record audio with a Linux Live CD instead of raging about the installed Windows..
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11:34 rubenwardy people seem to join my server for the sole purpose of trying to get people to play hunger games
11:37 Obani lol
11:38 Obani CTF is better than HG
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11:55 CWz i hate when player come to advertise their servers
11:55 rubenwardy There's nothing you can really do without being an ass
11:56 rubenwardy Do you host a server, CWz?
11:58 CWz I am an admin on VanessaE's server as well as deezl's. i used to host a server which is now hosted by deezl. at this point and time however i only host a private minetest server
11:59 rubenwardy I remembered a server with CWz in the name, but I couldn't find it
12:00 CWz it been about a year since i had a server with my name in it
12:01 rubenwardy The reason for this lies not only in the fact that the 2n-dimensional Hilbert space is the n-fold tensor product of 2-dimensional spaces as it is given by spin-l/2-particles, like photons, representing a quantum bit.
12:01 rubenwardy :(
12:01 rubenwardy There should be quote marks around that ^^
12:02 rubenwardy Yeah, I have a long memory for random things I guess
12:02 rubenwardy In chat, a lot of players claim that others are hackers
12:03 rubenwardy How am I even supposed to verify this :'(
12:03 rubenwardy I just assume that it's due to lag
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12:04 kahrl_ isn't the n-fold tensor product of 2-dimensional spaces a 2^n-dimensional space?
12:04 kahrl_ not 2n?
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12:04 kahrl_ since dim(V tensor W) = dim(V) dim(W)
12:06 rubenwardy no idea
12:06 rubenwardy http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?tp=&arnumber=857200
12:06 rubenwardy I'm a first year
12:06 kahrl_ ah it's indeed 2^n
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12:15 rubenwardy copy+paste error, obviously
12:15 rubenwardy Not that I would have noticed
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13:05 rubenwardy Does anyone know of a good way to accept donations/tips/buy-me-a-cuppa?
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13:32 Calinou rubenwardy, Patreon?
13:32 Calinou (that's for recurring donations)
13:32 Calinou also, there's Gratipay
13:32 Calinou and of course you can set up a Bitcoin address
13:32 Calinou though you're going to have an hard time converting them to a "real" currency, and putting it on your bank account
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13:46 amadin Hi all, does anybody know mod which can teleport to bed if player enter some command in chat?
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13:47 amadin I have beds with spawn after death, but i need spawn to bed if i type in chat /spawn 9for example)
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14:30 amadin does anybody know mod which can teleport to bed by command in chat?
14:31 everamzah don't think it exists yet, amadin
14:32 amadin so nobody don't try use /home or /spawn with beds before?
14:35 ElectronLibre /spawn doesn't exist in Minetest Game as far as I know, and /home is independant from the bed system.
14:36 ElectronLibre But a command could be implemented in bed to teleport to your bed, that would be easy to do.
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15:31 Fixer you can make a mod or modify bed mod ._.
15:36 ElectronLibre Modifying the mod would be more logical, but submitting such a change request would probably take months to be reviewed and maybe merged.
15:41 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=13658&p=200133#p200133
15:41 Calinou hahahaha
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15:53 Fixer Calinou, yes, it sucks to install jre with adware included, and after that disable wide-door-open-for-hackers browser plugin, also, there is stigma that it uses lots of RAM
15:56 Fixer Calinou, also, back in 2004 or so ATI introduced a new driver control panel in .NET... and it consumed 180mb of ram, insane, people were outraged by that
15:57 Fixer so instead they strip away the crap and made lightweight driver package + and you can install Ati Tray Tools or similar that consumes like ~10 mb of ram
15:57 Fixer back then 512mb of ram was a lot
15:59 Fixer java programs look like crap on desktop iirc
16:00 Fixer and qt ones have problems too
16:00 Fixer and gtk
16:00 Fixer guh
16:00 est31 you mean on windows desktop?
16:00 Fixer at least on windows
16:00 Fixer linux desktop is a mess
16:00 est31 well yeah, on windows they look bad
16:01 Fixer qt3/4/5/gtk2/3/whatevercrap
16:01 est31 and on linux set up for qt, gtk looks bad too.
16:01 Fixer and gtk2 on windows... gwad.. that looks like shit
16:01 Fixer i mean how on earth made menu items with black text and blue background when you hover mouse over it?
16:02 Fixer and that bug is not fixed for years
16:02 Fixer or decades
16:03 Fixer and menu items... wth with them their vertical spacing is different
16:03 Fixer wtf?
16:03 Fixer i think gtk3 looks better on windows with adwaita.. but i have not seen any programs with it
16:03 Fixer yet
16:04 Fixer or no systray support in gtk3, are they for real?
16:05 Fixer i'm googling now and it feels like gtk3+windows is rare
16:08 Fixer at least when using windows classic theme
16:08 Fixer not sure for that fancy theme in win7
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16:10 Calinou Fixer, there are unofficial builds of OpenJDK for Windows
16:10 Calinou also, if you install the JDK, there is no adware proposed
16:10 Calinou and browser plug-in is easily disabled
16:11 Fixer also, side note: flash must die
16:11 Fixer oh GTK+ breaks themes again
16:11 Fixer lol
16:11 Calinou the GTK+ 3 Windows port took years
16:11 Calinou it was only first available in 2013, IIRC
16:12 Fixer poor theme developers for GTK3... it is like to be a *ing monkey rewriting every release
16:12 Fixer when will things stabilise?
16:12 Fixer every time it is massive new crap down the users throat, and that never stops
16:13 Fixer XFree was never polished... * that, fork, whatever, it is crap anyway, lets make new shiny Wayland/whatever @ 10 years passes @ still making @ everything bricks
16:13 Fixer breaks*
16:14 Fixer KDE3, good enough, nuh way too stable, lets make new shiny KDE4, break everything, * the user, and "polish the turd" for years
16:15 Fixer plasma is not crashing in 2015, i hope
16:15 est31 haha
16:15 est31 had multiple crashes of plasma, just this week
16:16 Fixer first release was in 2007 or so, so it is 8 years now... and *ing plasma still crashes
16:17 Fixer that is stable as Syria
16:18 Fixer on the other side Gnomers went nuts and go into MacOS X department and * * everything and doing "think different" with crazy things like removing systray support because of ... "the new way"
16:19 Fixer or removing minimize/maximize button
16:19 Fixer and you need tweaker to fix
16:19 Fixer also Win10
16:20 Fixer Win7 was last mostly *ex-free OS, new releases need tweakers yet again to do damage that developers inflict on users
16:21 Fixer to undo damage*
16:22 Fixer i've used to rdp into win8 server on my previous work... that hotcorner thing was super annoying
16:23 Fixer So tweakers and **x are back!
16:24 Fixer want non-crippled Start menu? install whatever.exe, what to disable spying/telemetry - install whatever2.exe, windows is removing some of your programs for strange reasons? no problem just have more **x by installing that program again
16:25 Fixer windows ecosystem is piece of crap :(
16:26 Fixer everything comes with bundles(usually malware), users are -ed usually
16:27 Fixer everyone wants to rip off you
16:28 Fixer and even linux ecosystem has problem
16:28 Fixer like corporations that can have good and negative effects
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16:29 Fixer you can have enhanced drivers and systemd/gnome/whateverRH is forcing down your throats
16:29 Fixer want no systemd? prepare for lots of **x
16:29 Fixer btw, i'm not against systemd, but lots of people are scared of Lennart
16:30 Fixer everything he wrotes becames famous or unfamous for some reasons
16:30 Fixer like PulseAudio
16:30 Fixer it must be stable enough right bow
16:30 Fixer now*
16:30 Sokomine is there an issue for overlarge nodeboxes/meshes yet where right-clicking ignores the mesh and aims at the node behind? it's not only a problem with my travelnet. doors are also affected
16:31 est31 yeah Sokomine one would have to searth further
16:31 Fixer Sokomine, yes, sometimes i've got that too
16:31 est31 same goes for collision boxes
16:31 est31 tradeoff between meshnode size and search radius
16:32 est31 the only good way I see to solve this would be to register dummy nodes at the places where the node occupies "foreign space"
16:32 est31 those dummy nodes would then have a relative number in param1 or param2, pointing to the "origin" location
16:33 est31 otherwise one would have to scan too much
16:33 Sokomine the dummy node solution isn't very good, and not very clean either. those dummies might remain...and it does need extra code
16:33 est31 well the other way would be to increase search radius, but that goes to cost of performance
16:33 CWz anyone seen mr zeno?
16:33 est31 zeno is retired :(
16:34 Sokomine est31: oh. that's a pity (both issues)
16:34 Sokomine at least zenos server seems to live on?
16:35 est31 idk
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16:35 sfan5 MinetestBot: <3
16:35 est31 yeey
16:35 sfan5 MinetestBot!
16:35 MinetestBot sfan5!
16:35 Sokomine est31: hmm. most of these nodes cover two nodes - usually above each other. it used to be no problem. searching with a range of 2 instead of 1 in case of right-click ought to be not such a big problem
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16:36 Sokomine est31: the collision box doesn't have to matter for mobs. we need it when right-clicking
16:37 Sokomine hm, on_punch also...but almost always only when the player clicks. if the search done in that case is slightly more expensive - who will care? it will be still extremly fast and below the time a human may notice
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16:38 est31 well, for a scanning range of 2, you would have to search a cube of 3x3x3 nodes
16:39 est31 for a range of 3, it would be 4x4x4
16:39 est31 and I guess right click wouldn't be the problem, because thats only happening very rarely
16:39 est31 the larger problem is the collision stuff
16:40 Sokomine est31: yes. bad for things that happen frequently - like mobs or other moving objects searching for collision boxes - but just not relevant for such expensive actions as clicking a block. the click will cause terribly expensive actions anyway (at least relative to the search :-)). and worst - it will cause network traffic and require the server to act
16:41 est31 and one more argument for dummy nodes: without them, you'd need to scan not just for collision checks, but also every time a node gets placed
16:41 est31 right now those checks are not done, and its a big mess.
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16:42 Sokomine est31: right. for normal collusion actions, we can ignore it. a mob will see the bottom node of the door or the travelnet - and usually there'll be a node above, not leaving enough space for the mob to pass through. sheep and fences don't go together either - simple mob sheeps stack on each other's back and will jump any fence in time (unless it's closed at the top as well)
16:43 est31 Sokomine, see this bug https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2612
16:43 Sokomine ah, thanks *reading it*
16:46 Sokomine hm, yes, that's related but not the same in pracitce. the collision box problem - in particular along a horizontal axis - occoured before. it's not nice, but it's something you can live with. the problem we got recently is diffrent
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16:48 Sokomine doors and other nodes which have a *height* of 2 nodes now don't work properly. they used to in the past. and for that to work, the selection box is the more relevant. aiming at a door and getting the content of the chest behind just isn't the expected behaviour
16:49 Sokomine collision checks are expensive and may happen frequently. clicks are diffrent. a bit more checks there would be very helpful
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16:54 Sokomine the current behaviour of the engine is not satisfactory in that regard. the selection box does need a larger search range. collision detection is something diffrent
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16:56 Sokomine est31: is there an issue for the *selection* box check?
16:56 est31 not that I recall
16:56 Sokomine or are collision and selection box handled the same way since recently?
16:57 est31 idk
17:03 Sokomine i wonder which commit did introduce this undesired change
17:05 rubenwardy https://i.imgur.com/sJBnNLU.jpg
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17:09 rubenwardy https://github.com/NARKOZ/hacker-scripts/blob/master/fucking_coffee.rb
17:09 Sokomine CWz: guess that depends on how you define bigshot. there are some people who create nice videos about minetest. they're less often viewed, but that doesn't say anything about quality
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17:13 CWz someone mad a video on your serve rubenwardy
17:15 rubenwardy yeah, I've been reading the logs
17:15 rubenwardy is there a new one up now?
17:16 rubenwardy I can only see this persons ones from yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no_MJKxRCdE
17:16 rubenwardy yeah, seen it
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17:35 VanessaE Calinou: [11-29 08:32] <Calinou> though you're going to have an hard time converting them to a "real" currency, and putting it on your bank account <--- coinbase.
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18:24 Matsetes Hi! Is there something new about spread of flowers?
18:25 Obani spread of flowers ?
18:25 Obani What is this ?
18:25 Matsetes I left them in a free space of dirt with grass and they do not spread..
18:25 Matsetes Flowers multiplying themselves
18:25 Obani Matsetes, is there enough light ?
18:25 Matsetes If sun is enouth yes
18:26 Obani well sun is max light so it shall be good ^^
18:26 Obani Matsetes, how long did you wait ?
18:26 Matsetes Grass spread too much and flowers not at all
18:26 Matsetes 3 real life hours
18:26 Matsetes With game not in pause
18:27 Obani Matsetes, flowers will grow next to flowers, not next to grasses
18:27 Obani Put flowers all around and wait :)
18:29 Matsetes I retry now leaving a lot of space between them
18:29 Matsetes There is no grass in that area, I spent half an hour digging that stupid grass =S
18:29 Matsetes I'll see
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18:36 * Fixer_ .oO(haaaaaaaaaardcooore vibes!)
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18:40 DI3HARD139 Where can I get Leveldb_library, Ogg_library and the redis files from??
18:41 Calinou DI3HARD139, from your distribution's repositories if on GNU/Linux, from their respective official sites if on Windows.
18:42 DI3HARD139 Tried that. Not sure if I need to compile them first as their missing files
18:45 Calinou you want to make a Windows build?
18:45 DI3HARD139 Yeah. I want to attempt tweaking it some
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18:56 DI3HARD139 Yeah it will be on windows
18:59 DI3HARD139 Will continue later. bbl
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19:22 Sokomine ah. seems the current behaviour regarding doors is even more complicated. aiming at the upper part of a (homedecor) door or travelnet selects the node behind. aiming at the slim sides of the door selects the door...
19:23 Sokomine unless you're far enough away. then the door is correctly selected
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19:24 Sokomine very strange
19:32 Fixer_ this is minetest!
19:35 Obani WTF ?
19:35 Obani Why is there a Bing and a Google Bot on the forum as registered users ?????
19:42 alket they are not, usually Search Engines have their default group
19:44 Sokomine as long as the bots don't write anything....
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21:59 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Lua_api.txt: Add documentation for biome definition 5292ba7 http://git.io/vBypG (2015-11-29T21:55:58Z)
21:59 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Dungeongen: Also preserve river water nodes 452c883 http://git.io/vBypZ (2015-11-29T21:55:43Z)
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