Time Nick Message 00:03 who_wants_some_ Sokomine, for example on 220 45 2 00:07 who_wants_some_ Sokomine, it is not your problem really, just interesting to look at 00:16 Sokomine who_wants_some_: hmm. perhaps protection could be removed with a special command if the node where the plotmarker would be expected is loaded and does not contain a plotmarker 00:30 who_wants_some_ could be 00:31 twoelk Sokomine: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=199696#p199696 - having fun with villages 00:33 who_wants_some_ nice 00:33 who_wants_some_ gn 06:57 VanessaE_ good morning 06:58 swift110-phone How r u 06:59 VanessaE_ tired :P 06:59 VanessaE_ and still a little ... tipsy ;) 07:00 swift110-phone Oh ok 07:00 swift110-phone Im great 07:00 VanessaE_ good :) 07:03 swift110-phone Thanks 07:04 swift110-phone How long you been playing the game? 07:04 VanessaE_ since March 2012. 07:07 swift110-phone What introduced you to it 07:08 VanessaE_ I originally went looking for some kind of open-source equivalent to redstone. found mesecons and hence minetest. 07:12 swift110-phone Oh 07:12 swift110-phone Thought it would have been minecraft 07:13 VanessaE_ nope. 07:13 VanessaE_ never actually touched it. 07:13 VanessaE_ seen plenty of videos, but that's about it 07:13 swift110-phone Oh ok 07:14 swift110-phone I seen a friend play it 07:14 swift110-phone But i was already really tired so i fell asleep 07:27 swift110-phone I like minetest though 07:30 VanessaE_ I'm pretty biased toward open source, so.. :) 07:34 swift110-phone Me too 10:05 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Systems Engineer Day! 😃 17:07 jemadux any guide to minetest crafting ? 17:33 who_wants_some jemadux, http://wiki.minetest.net/Crafting 17:54 rubenwardy What's the best way to make a temporary impregnable barrier? I want to separate two teams in CTF by a red barrier before the match. 17:54 Krock hai 17:54 rubenwardy hi 17:57 Krock MTB! :( 18:02 who_wants_some hi 18:32 Builder123 hi 2e! 18:33 twoelk hi 18:33 twoelk hi 18:33 twoelk or ... moin moin! 18:34 Builder123 Its been a busy and harrowing thanksgiving week. Im glad my second son came to visit :) 18:35 Builder123 I am glad that things are getting back to normal... 18:36 twoelk it's been quite around here (which is a really good thing in Europe at the moment) except that --- Winter has come! 18:37 twoelk and things are beginning to get christmassy 18:37 Builder123 alas - the cold weather has dropped in on us this past week - but currently a wonderful 70 Degrees Fahrenheit 18:38 Builder123 It is a shopper's delight with Black Friday - well shoppers with liquid assets :) 18:39 Builder123 I am hoping for a mild winter to reduce energy consumption 18:40 Builder123 take care - Im moving to the ve-server forum. 18:41 twoelk just was in my favorite city "Lübeck" and it's just nice to see all the deco being put up and christmas smells drifting through the city 18:45 who_wants_some winter? o_0 are you living in antarctica? 18:48 twoelk eh? it's summer down there now 18:48 Ingar it's 4°C outside 18:50 Krock2 it's dark outside 18:50 Ingar I have a sensor outside 18:50 Ingar so I can stay inside, where it is warm 18:50 twoelk hm - similar here but a snow front is said to be approaching tonight 18:52 twoelk the snow of a few days ago has turned to the ussual grey muck we normally have lots of until january 19:20 Krock ~math 19:20 Krock ShadowBot: math 19:32 jemadux any server with full modes ? 19:34 VanessaE_ full modes? 19:39 jemadux with all modes 19:40 VanessaE_ what do you mean "with all modes" 19:41 jemadux like to play minecraft 19:42 VanessaE_ you'll need to be more specific 19:42 VanessaE_ most of us here don't play minecraft 19:42 VanessaE_ and minetest does not connnect with it either 19:42 jemadux with creepers and wool 19:43 VanessaE_ you mean mods then, not modes. 19:43 VanessaE_ there's no such thing as a server with "all" the mods, there are hundreds of them 19:43 VanessaE_ I don't know which servers have things like creepers, but most of them have wool as that comes with minetest. 19:45 rubenwardy TheWild, how much progress did you make with documenting the network protocol? 19:45 Putz3000 hey all, I installed Minetest 0.4.13 on Ubuntu from repository. No mods yet but I see no sheep. Is this no longer in default install? 19:46 VanessaE_ Putz3000: it never was. 19:46 VanessaE_ get one of the MOBs mods like carbone_mobs 19:46 VanessaE_ ( https://github.com/Calinou/carbone_mobs ) 19:46 Putz3000 VanessaE: Really? huh. I could have swore it was...guess I have been away from it too long again...lol. Well that explains it. Thank you. 19:47 VanessaE_ there used to be rats, dungeon masters, and oerkkis in the game, but that was back in 0.3.x 19:47 Putz3000 VanessaE_: so why is Wool default enabled? can you get wool w/ out sheep? 19:47 VanessaE_ those have since been removed in favor of using a mod or something 19:47 VanessaE_ wool can be crafted from cotton, which is also default 19:48 VanessaE_ (in minetest, wool == cotton, and papyrus == sugar cane) 19:48 Putz3000 so if I find cotton growing then I can farm it and from that craft wool which can be used to build beds correct? and beds are now default available starting with 0.4.10 or .13? 19:48 VanessaE_ yep 19:49 VanessaE_ I forget when beds were added though 19:49 TheWild rubenwardy, nah, not much. It goes pretty badly. I wrote a program that decodes the sniffed packets to show me what's inside (not yet chop commands into pieces). Then I got a more readable dump. Some time later I wrote what information I would like to put in the doc and... it ends here unfortunately. 19:49 TheWild searching for good words when not busy 19:50 VanessaE_ TheWild: can't nrzkt help you with that? 19:50 Putz3000 ahh sweet. thank you again VanessaE. I will jump back in and get my boy up and running again. 19:51 VanessaE_ Putz3000: good luck. 19:51 VanessaE_ jemadux: ^^^^ that is what happens when you choose to ask your question using complete, legible sentences. :P 19:51 VanessaE_ you get complete answers :) 19:53 TheWild VanessaE_: maybe 19:53 TheWild though I'm not going to write anything for next few days, 19:57 TheWild rubenwardy: if I ever write it I do not want it to be dry and boring like most RFC's are 20:17 TheWild rubenwardy: other formats than plain text file are accepted? 20:17 rubenwardy ha 20:17 rubenwardy my favourite is markdown 20:38 Calinou yep, Markdown is great. 20:39 rubenwardy ruben Shakur said i love you to me! 20:47 who_wants_some VanessaE_, not true, mobs were in default 0.3 (iirc): oerkkies and pedobear-like bears with fireballs (epic ones) 20:47 rubenwardy dungeon master 20:48 who_wants_some yes! 20:48 rubenwardy wtf even "pedobear" 20:49 who_wants_some their feature was yellow fireballs, and they shooted mostly horizontally, lots of mountains got no base after that 20:49 who_wants_some that was on celeron server of course 20:50 who_wants_some on original celeron 5XX MHz with 192 mb ram 20:50 rubenwardy I've had so many wooden houses destroyed because of them 20:50 who_wants_some also, fire was introduced little later 20:50 who_wants_some after them i believe 20:50 who_wants_some we were all excited 20:50 who_wants_some and burn trees and houses ^_^ 20:50 Calinou fire only was introduced in 0.4 20:51 who_wants_some it was on redcrab iirc 20:51 jemadux how do i lock an item ? 20:51 who_wants_some 0.3dev-20111016 got mobs 20:52 who_wants_some that was 4 years ago :S 20:52 Calinou back then Minetest was much lighter on servers… 20:53 who_wants_some let me share some historic pic 20:53 who_wants_some https://i.imgur.com/UZJFYdP.png first fire test iirc 20:54 who_wants_some that was 0.4.dev-20120408 20:55 who_wants_some screenshot was made at 09 apr 2012 20:57 who_wants_some back then i was compiling my builds on XP 21:00 Krock Some people still do that 21:00 who_wants_some like you 21:00 rubenwardy dungeon master broke blocks ,though 21:01 who_wants_some yes 21:01 who_wants_some with fireballs 21:01 who_wants_some like 3*3*3 areas 21:01 who_wants_some but it was funny 21:01 who_wants_some and dangerous sometimes 21:01 who_wants_some i see liquid don't flowing down the slope problems are present in 2011 build 21:04 who_wants_some dat weedy builds 21:04 who_wants_some i wonder if he is around 21:04 who_wants_some or minetest delta 21:04 VanessaE_ [11-27 15:47] VanessaE_, not true, mobs were in default 0.3 (iirc): oerkkies and pedobear-like bears with fireballs (epic ones) 21:04 VanessaE_ I believe I said that already. 21:04 who_wants_some VanessaE_, oh, maybe I missed it 21:05 VanessaE_ (besides, he was talking about sheep, not the old 0.3.x MOBs) 21:06 VanessaE_ oh, and the dungeon master looks NOTHING like pedobear :P 21:06 who_wants_some well, hold on 21:07 VanessaE_ http://i.imgur.com/SqcUv.png 21:07 VanessaE_ dungeon masters from 0.3.x 21:07 who_wants_some VanessaE_, don't ask me who made that pic, https://i.imgur.com/prQ9MBj.jpg 21:07 VanessaE_ pedobear: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/Pedobear.png 21:07 VanessaE_ definitely not the same :P 21:08 who_wants_some well... some similarities are colour and black eyes 21:08 VanessaE_ in that case my wall resembles paper, being white and mostly smooth :) 21:08 who_wants_some VanessaE_, also, they spawned catastrophically and caused lots of ruins everywhere 21:08 VanessaE_ yup, that much is true 21:09 VanessaE_ Calinou: doesn't carbone_mobs have its own version of the same? 21:09 who_wants_some i think yes 21:09 Calinou it has dungeon masters, yes 21:11 who_wants_some Calinou, you joined minetest forum 1 day after me, that is funny 21:11 who_wants_some 1 day late 21:11 rubenwardy I always think minetest.register_globalstep should be minetest.register_on_global_step 21:11 VanessaE_ rubenwardy: indeed so. 21:11 rubenwardy also, player:getpos() throws me 21:14 who_wants_some Calinou, you and me are old school players MT now, imagine! 21:15 rubenwardy I joined 10 months after Calinou :( 21:16 rubenwardy What's the best way to make a temporary impregnable barrier? I want to separate two teams in CTF by a red barrier before the match. 21:16 rubenwardy Would a physical entity work? 21:16 who_wants_some from earliest 30 registered users on forum only 4 are active 21:17 who_wants_some rubenwardy, bedrock? %) 21:17 rubenwardy That's a node 21:17 rubenwardy it would work, but it needs to disappear quickly 21:17 rubenwardy I currently have an glass barrier around the map, but it needs to disappear 21:18 who_wants_some active oldest joiners from oldest 30 are: celeron55, cisoun, metouto, cHyper 21:25 Testman_ #LOTT 21:26 exio4 \o/ 21:26 exio4 hihi 21:27 exio4 who is who_wants_some 21:27 exio4 that nick sounds familiar 21:27 exio4 who_wants_some: who are you 21:27 who_wants_some Fixer 21:28 exio4 ok 21:35 Krock Free magic numbers! http://www.quinapalus.com/cgi-bin/qat?pat=[abcdefoist][abcdefoist][abcdefoist][abcdefoist][abcdefoist]&ent=Search&dict=5 21:35 brothersome How can I make the old sugar? I wanna make candyblocks 21:37 VanessaE_ what "old" sugar? 21:37 VanessaE_ there are a couple of mods that add sugar by way of crafting it from papyrus 21:37 VanessaE_ but nothing like that was ever default afaik 21:38 brothersome Sugar that looks rounded at the bottom to make a sugarblock 21:38 brothersome It tells that there are 3 kinds of sugar, 2 kinds can be crafted and 1 through mixing 21:38 VanessaE_ no idea 21:39 brothersome I need the one with mixing - probably it is an error in the mod 21:40 rubenwardy How can I make a transparent class? 21:40 rubenwardy *glass 21:40 brothersome How can I choose for mixing or crafting? 21:40 VanessaE_ brothersome: find the mod that supplied the sugar you need. 21:41 brothersome VanessaE_, I ask Out`Of`Control now - he refurbished the server 21:42 brothersome If I know how to mix instead of craft, then I have a probably solution 21:42 VanessaE_ there IS no "mix"/ 21:42 VanessaE_ this is not minecraft. 21:43 VanessaE_ if you can't craft it, then it has to be done with some machine. 21:43 brothersome GUI says mixing 21:43 VanessaE_ in vanilla minetest there is only crafting and cooking. 21:43 VanessaE_ there is no "mixing". 21:43 brothersome I was looking for that machine, still none found 21:44 VanessaE_ technic adds a number of machines, but I don't think any of them do "mixing" as such 21:44 Calinou someone should do this for Minetest: https://www.doomworld.com/vb/wads-mods/60299-reinchards-high-resolution-textures-and-sprites-demo-available/ 21:44 VanessaE_ (the closest I can think of is the alloy machine_ 21:45 exio4 C++11 is fun 21:45 Krock Using `auto` everywhere and not knowing what type it actually is 21:45 exio4 Krock: ? 21:46 exio4 Krock: it's more than just that 21:46 Krock Oh? 21:46 Krock I thought it would be something like the "var" keyword in JS/.NET 21:46 exio4 you get std::unique_ptr, std::thread, etc 21:47 exio4 I mean, C++11 21:47 Krock oh, yes. There are many new things 21:47 exio4 Krock: also, var keyword in JS? nothing like that, considering JS doesn't even have a static type system 21:47 exio4 type inference isn't that rare and bad as you make it sound :P 21:48 exio4 and, most of the time, auto helps because you don't need to write 40-char long types everywhere but just enough 21:48 Krock typedef unsigned int u32; 21:48 Krock ^^ 21:48 exio4 auto ptr = Constructor(); 21:49 exio4 } else if (auto x_ = dynamic_cast(x)) { 21:49 exio4 vs 21:49 exio4 } else if (Player* x_ = dynamic_cast(x)) { 21:50 Krock oh, I see 21:50 exio4 (I am using auto more on return types of polymorphic things, but that's C++14 :p) 21:50 exio4 still, type inference is not a bad thing 21:53 rubenwardy Krock, typedef unsigned int u32 isn't good 21:53 rubenwardy use typedef uint32_t u32 21:53 exio4 anywaylol 21:53 exio4 >a typedef to a typedef 21:53 rubenwardy int varies 21:53 exio4 gg 21:54 Krock rubenwardy, just used unsigned int, so it appears to be much shorter 21:54 rubenwardy uint32_t is annoying to type 21:54 rubenwardy unsigned int isn't always 32 bits 21:54 Krock ik 21:54 rubenwardy then don't call it u32 21:54 rubenwardy uint 21:54 exio4 I am using a typedef for template-reasons 21:54 exio4 I don't find it that annoying 21:55 rubenwardy also, how to make it so you can't build against a certain node? 21:55 rubenwardy pointable = false means you can reach through it 21:55 rubenwardy which I don't want 21:55 rubenwardy ideally don't want 21:56 exio4 there should be a script that magically creates a working wrapper for a SDL2 C++ game 21:57 rubenwardy I have a simple class for that 21:57 rubenwardy irrlicht like 21:58 rubenwardy with engine->init(), begin scene, end scene, run, etc 21:58 rubenwardy But I use SFML now 21:58 rubenwardy I much prefer it 21:59 exio4 a simple class for that? 21:59 exio4 wut? 22:00 rubenwardy like IrrlichtDevice 22:00 exio4 er 22:00 exio4 I am sorry 22:01 exio4 working android wrapper 22:01 exio4 wasn't clear enough 22:01 rubenwardy oh, okay 22:01 exio4 I missed a word 22:02 rubenwardy def.alpha is weird 22:03 rubenwardy if def.alpha = 0, it uses the texture alpha 22:03 rubenwardy if def.alpha = 255, it uses solid 22:03 rubenwardy between those appears to interpolate 22:03 rubenwardy and when the texture is solid, it's not transparent even with def.alpha = 0 22:06 Krock Some flood their bath, others the excess. 22:16 who_wants_some 8% of forumers from 2011 were still active in 2015 22:16 brothersome How to make mtfoods:sugar? When there is also bushes:sugar and food:sugar - How can I mix? 22:25 who_wants_some 3% of forumers from 2011 were active in Nov 2015 22:25 who_wants_some 10 people from 363 registered 22:25 who_wants_some in that year 22:49 lordcirth Trying to compile 0.4.13, when I run cmake I get "minetest: symbol lookup error: minetest: undefined symbol: _ZNK7leveldb6Status8ToStringB5cxx11Ev" 22:49 lordcirth I found a reference to this in IRC logs but they didn't say how they fixed it 22:51 lordcirth *correction, that's when trying to run Fedora 23's 0.4.13 package on my Fedora 22, because cmake has a different error 23:04 DFeniks_ What's the best way to make a temporary impregnable barrier? I want to separate two teams in CTF by a red barrier before the match. <-- maybe some node that swaps under circumstances and become walkable or not walkable? 23:06 DFeniks_ like illithin in lott that swaps at night. or maybe something mesecon activated 23:07 STHGOM indestructable ghoststone? 23:07 DFeniks_ i do not say its best method , i just saw it , thought maybe my ideas might be helpful 23:10 STHGOM probably not the best way, though 23:14 STHGOM yea 23:23 jemadux is minetest heavy or light ? 23:24 who_wants_some medium 23:24 jemadux cuz i am with and intel r and i feel it's heavy 23:44 STHGOM did you turn down some settings?