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00:03 afflatus I'm happy with the new biome_blens params
00:03 afflatus blend ^
00:05 afflatus It seems, for what I'm doing, that scaling the noise by around 0.001 is much better than 1
00:05 afflatus I just wish I understood why
00:05 afflatus I'm doing decoration placement btw
00:09 afflatus Ach well ...
00:21 afflatus The good news is: I think I have found the ideal map seed for my new server.
00:21 afflatus Small victories ;-)
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00:37 afflatus By golly, I think I've done it!
00:56 Ronsor i can share the seed i use lol
00:56 Ronsor it works for me
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01:27 afflatus I really am done with mapgen now
01:28 afflatus Apart for one minor issue with overlapping woodsoils
01:28 afflatus I've been at this for a month now and I'm ready to move on :-)
01:28 afflatus But first ...
01:28 afflatus sleep
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01:42 firebudgy Hello :)
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02:09 wilkgr Hi there swift110
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02:19 Sokomine hm. i don't seem to get the current server list?
02:20 Sokomine ah, now. just took a long time
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03:47 fling Which mod is for nether fence?
03:48 sofar there is none, afaik
03:53 sofar ugh arch upgrade killed mcedit somehow... damn python dependencies
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09:59 basil60 Hi I'm using Minetest 0.4.13 and the carbone-ng world. I've been trying to craft gunpowder, but unsuccesfully. Is that because I'm a noob, or ????
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10:14 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy Use Less Stuff Day! 😃
10:17 Ingar Thursdays suck
10:17 Ingar it's like monday, but worse!
10:18 Ingar in the use-less-stuff-department, I'm debugging software from 2003 :)
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10:22 JamesTait Ingar, 🙌
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10:24 basil60 Hi I have a Minetest server 0.4.13 using carbone-ng world. I can't seem to craft gunpowder; is that a noob error or ???
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10:51 amadin Hi all, 0.4.13-dev is not in servers list, on 0.2.12-dev was. I recompile with -DENABLE_CURL=TRUE but it's not help
10:52 amadin downloaded ~ 5 days ago
10:52 sfan5 amadin: any log output about announcing?
10:53 amadin no
10:54 amadin error log level set to = error
10:55 amadin i will try with clear minetest now and report here
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11:08 amadin on clear build no messages about announcing
11:08 amadin too
11:08 amadin downloaded yesturday from github
11:09 amadin on 2 different OS
11:09 amadin debian and altlinux
11:13 amadin libcurl3
11:16 amadin does anybody can confirm or not this trouble on latest build?
11:21 amadin and in last builds do not droping unknown items
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11:37 amadin Does anybody can test announcing in log about public_serverlist = true on last 0.4.13-dev?
11:38 everamzah is that the setting to enable/disable the public serverlist in the main menu client tab?
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11:41 amadin i use ssh - no gui
11:41 amadin in minetest.conf only
11:42 amadin public_serverlist = true serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net
11:42 amadin in 2 lines of course
11:43 amadin I recompile with -DENABLE_CURL=TRUE but it's not help
11:47 everamzah iirc it's server_anounce = true
11:47 * everamzah checks
11:48 everamzah yes, server_announce to broadcast your server to master list
11:48 amadin server_anounce = yes ?
11:49 everamzah server_announce = true
11:49 everamzah note the two n's in announce
11:52 amadin oh thanks, i copyed my config from forum
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12:01 amadin maybe you know also why unknown items don't dropped at last dev-versions?
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12:14 everamzah no i don't know. afaik unknown items/nodes don't do anything in general..
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13:28 luizrpgluiz razvan123 or LUD,They know it? It is a player who is asking to be implying admin on survivals servers
13:58 luizrpgluiz this player is too boring
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14:12 Nonemmm sdf
14:13 Nonemmm Как на серваке установить моды
14:13 Nonemmm ?
14:16 luizrpgluiz Nonemmm: simples,você ativa os mods na opção grafica do do minetest e depois você abre o jogo em modo servidor.(Простой, активировать моды в графическом режиме на Minetest, а затем вы открываете игру в режиме сервера.)
14:16 Nonemmm А в серверной версии?
14:16 proller наклади их в mods
14:17 luizrpgluiz Nonemmm: minetestserver
14:18 Nonemmm Опишу проблему (раскатил сервер на ubuntu, установил minetestserver, запустил все работает, но не пойму куда кидать моды и как их активировать) )
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14:26 everamzah 😀
14:27 Nonemmm Кто знает что делать?
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15:19 nrzkt it's an english channel, please
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15:38 everamzah 🙁
15:41 JohnnyComeL8ly Are you upset that I joined, everamzah? ;-)
15:41 JohnnyComeL8ly Or that est31 did so?
15:42 everamzah lol no. just testing unicode in weechat ncurses
15:42 everamzah i had no idea u could use emoji in irc
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15:45 everamzah allow me to scrot... and link a blog where i read how to do
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15:47 everamzah https://blog.nytsoi.net/2015/0​5/04/emoji-support-for-weechat
15:49 everamzah http://i.imgur.com/bIOlhiC.png
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15:49 everamzah in glowing bear, the emoji have color..
15:51 JohnnyComeL8ly everamzah, I see the emoji like you do on your end, but there are no fancy graphics (yellow face/Color at all)
15:51 everamzah not in ncurses weechat.... but in glowing bear, a weechat relay, they show with color.
15:52 VanessaE that's because your clients, like mine, are showing the actual unicode symbol, rather than rendering an icon in its place.
15:52 VanessaE the actual symbol as supplied by your chosen font that is
15:52 JohnnyComeL8ly VanessaE, ok, cool.
15:52 everamzah 🚴
15:55 est31 I hate these clients.
15:55 everamzah http://i.imgur.com/qPlJw6s.png
15:55 JohnnyComeL8ly est31, anyone in particular?
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15:56 est31 JohnnyComeL8ly, dunno, but lots of popular chat apps do what VanessaE describes. horrible...
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16:01 amadin I got  error, what to do? ERROR[Main]: mod "3d_armor" has unsatisfied dependencies:  "default" "ethereal"
16:01 amadin mods not loading
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16:02 everamzah perhaps default and ethereal mods need to be loaded _prior_ to 3d_armor
16:02 amadin in map meta all mods are false but they are
16:03 everamzah though, by default 3d_armor has only a soft-dependency on ethereal, i believe.
16:03 everamzah if they're all disabled in world.mt, check that you don't have anything in worldmods/ inside your world dir.
16:03 everamzah default should be enabled, no?
16:05 amadin in world dir are onply players dir
16:05 everamzah i think the [off] in your messages may be breaking /commands
16:05 amadin only
16:05 everamzah i see, amadin. yes, 3d_armor needs default, afaik
16:05 everamzah so if it's false in world.mt perhaps that's why it won't load
16:06 amadin default is disabled my minetest
16:06 JohnnyComeL8ly everamzah, Compose keys aren't IRC cmds.
16:06 everamzah oh i dunno what they are :O i just see: [off] /me tries a different ssh client
16:06 everamzah so wasn't sure if that was on purpose :D
16:06 amadin then i enable they but its not help
16:06 * everamzah looks up "compose keys"
16:07 VanessaE setxkbmap -option compose:menu
16:07 VanessaE menu, m, mu --> µ
16:07 VanessaE menu, m, u  that is.
16:07 amadin now all mods are enabled in world.mt manually but they are not loading
16:08 everamzah ohh, that's nifty
16:09 everamzah amadin: are the mods in the proper place? ~/.minetest/mods for example ?
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16:11 everamzah µ sweeet thx
16:11 amadin of course minetest/games/minetest_game/mods
16:12 everamzah if -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1
16:12 amadin i compile with this command
16:12 everamzah i guess it doesn't matter either way
16:12 everamzah strange ur mods are there and not loading.
16:16 amadin easier to launch a rocket into space than the production server via ssh
16:16 JohnnyComeL8ly VanessaE, I got it to work. Ü
16:16 VanessaE jocool
16:16 VanessaE JohnnyComeL8ly*
16:16 JohnnyComeL8ly lol
16:16 VanessaE amadin: you're just doing it wrong.  deploying a server is not at all hard.
16:16 JohnnyComeL8ly Über cool
16:16 amadin i think so, but i don't know what
16:17 amadin what i do wrong
16:17 JohnnyComeL8ly amadin, are you executing minetest from bin/
16:17 VanessaE put a normal, unmodified game (minetest_game, etc)  in ~/.minetest/games  and put your extra mods in ~/.minetest/worlds/<your world>/worldmods
16:18 amadin yes of corse i see logs
16:18 amadin it see world directory but not see mods
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16:19 VanessaE worldmods.
16:19 VanessaE just start over....
16:20 VanessaE you've got stuff complaining that 'default' can't be found
16:20 VanessaE that's a part of minetest_game
16:21 amadin before this trouble i just remove compassgps, craft guide, and invetroy plu, and some packets ( libgettextpo-dev, gettext) then  recompile minetest, now i install they again and recompile again, buit it not help
16:21 VanessaE you don't need to recompile
16:21 VanessaE your engine's probably fine.  just start over with your game and mod config
16:22 amadin i try start with clear config - nothing
16:22 * VanessaE gives up
16:25 swift110-phone Hey guys
16:26 amadin i remove mods folder but error "The following mods could not be found:" still alive - i think i need a rest
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16:26 RealBadAngel amadin, can you pastebin log?
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16:27 amadin yes but there nothing interesting i think
16:27 JohnnyComeL8ly That's what is interesting... the log.
16:31 amadin This log of server with removed directory "mods" from /home/user/minetest/minetest_game/ dir http://pastebin.com/8wa1UxzH
16:32 amadin oh no /home/user/minetest/games/minetest_game/
16:32 amadin that's right path
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16:32 amadin so i remove correct folder
16:33 VanessaE where's your minetest_game at ?
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16:35 amadin i start # /home/user/minetest/bin/minetestserver the full path to mods is /home/user/minetest/games/minetest_game
16:35 VanessaE no, that's wrong
16:35 VanessaE /home/user/minetest/games/minetest_game  should contain ONLY the mods that originally came with it.
16:35 amadin oO
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16:36 VanessaE external mods go somewhere else, probably /home/user/minetest/mods  or /home/user/minetest/worlds/YOUR_WORLD/worldmods
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16:36 VanessaE that's why it broke for you
16:36 est31 or under /home/user/minetest/mods and /home/user/minetest/worlds/YOUR_WORLD/worldmods is a symlink to it
16:36 VanessaE you deleted the entire game content
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16:36 VanessaE minetest_game/mods  is the game content.
16:36 Krock Hello people
16:36 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello, person.
16:37 VanessaE morning, Krock
16:37 JohnnyComeL8ly Yes, it is morning... I should have said that already. :-)
16:37 Krock No, it's evening!!!
16:37 amadin thanks to all who help me
16:37 Krock !next
16:37 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
16:38 fling trying to convert sqlite to redis and having this spammed to the log -> "2015-11-19 22:37:40: WARNING[Main]: saveBlock: saving block (247,-1,-313) failed: OOM command not allowed when used memory > 'maxmemory'."
16:39 JohnnyComeL8ly fling, that's your problem... you're trying to do unnecessary tasks.
16:39 fling JohnnyComeL8ly: umm what?
16:40 JohnnyComeL8ly sqlite is just fine for whatever you need.
16:40 * Krock looks at OldCoder and wonders why he is so high.
16:40 fling JohnnyComeL8ly: but I have a fast redis server running.
16:41 OldCoder Hm?
16:41 sfan5 fling: perhaps redis has it's own setting for max memory usage
16:42 fling sfan5: but the error is in minetest log not redis
16:42 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm not for sure what features are limited by using non-sqlite DB tools.
16:42 sfan5 fling: minetest writes the errors it receives from redis to it's log
16:43 sfan5 fling: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blo​b/master/src/database-redis.cpp#L94-L95
16:46 fling ahh!
16:46 fling sfan5: thanks! removed the memory limit, no errors yet.
16:50 fling Looks like it will take a while…
17:04 fling 2015-11-19 23:04:19: ACTION[Main]: Successfully migrated 2068474 blocks
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17:37 thePalindrome test
17:37 Ingar your test failed, please try again
17:38 thePalindrome noes
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17:38 Ingar I love it when I'm right
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17:42 thePalindrome testset
17:42 thePalindrome eh, close enough
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18:15 harimohan hi everyone!
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18:21 swift110-phone Hey harimohan
18:22 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello, harimohan.
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18:56 segfault22 Craig's server is offline
18:56 sfan5 omg everyone panic
18:56 segfault22 I can't connect to it
18:56 segfault22 CraigyDavi
18:56 Krock *runs around*
18:57 Krock *cries*
18:57 segfault22 Lol
18:57 * thePalindrome has yet to try multiplayer
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18:57 segfault22 it's the only server I play on, and I was going to make my own server sometime but my only other PC is in storage and I can't get it yet,...
18:58 sfan5 !server players:most
18:58 MinetestBot sfan5: MINETEST SIMPLE SURVIVAL SERVER | 52.33.71.29 | Clients: 31/60, 33/35 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / minetest | Ping: 162ms
18:59 sfan5 162ms?
18:59 sfan5 !py __import__('os').popen("geoiplookup 52.33.71.29").read()
18:59 MinetestBot ''
18:59 sfan5 not installed? ...
18:59 sfan5 it's US
19:00 segfault22 It would have RAID card installed with two hard-drives connected. Also it would send backup archives to another computer with ~2TB of storage capacity
19:00 segfault22 I might try another server but I like the progress I made with building stuff on Craig's server,... it was becoming cool
19:00 segfault22 Anyone know a good Free VPS that's legit
19:01 thePalindrome Mine :P
19:01 sfan5 >free vps
19:01 sfan5 pff
19:01 sfan5 very hard to find
19:01 luizrpgluiz kkk
19:01 thePalindrome ^
19:01 sfan5 any not-shitty free vps host tuurns shitty in at least 1 year
19:02 segfault22 Then I will have to wait before I can host a server,...
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19:02 segfault22 maybe I can melt down some gold traces I scraped off of some defunct circuit boards, then sell the resulting lump for some cash...
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19:03 Ingar segfault22: there's a youtube howto on that
19:03 luizrpgluiz i am a small youtuber
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19:04 segfault22 I have seen a bunch of them,... I intend to use the process of cupellation, if I can find enough gold traces and if that works to remove the iron from the gold plated steel pins
19:04 Ingar I'm not that courageous
19:04 segfault22 I would burn it until everything else is oxidized and removed as slag, but I don't want the gold to evaporate at all so I will probably use the Hydrochloric Acid and Hydrogen Peroxide trick
19:05 segfault22 I can't get any hydrogen peroxide or hydrochloric acid until I have the money though,... so I will have to use the process of cupellation.
19:06 segfault22 or possibly find somewhere to sell an American-revolutionary-war-era French cannonball
19:07 segfault22 CraigyDavi are you there
19:07 thePalindrome That's quite nifty
19:08 thePalindrome Does your ISP not allow port forwarding?
19:08 segfault22 I think they allow port forwarding, but I am not sure.
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19:09 STHGOM what kind of server would you make?
19:10 segfault22 I doubt they could gain anything from disallowing it, and the option exists in router configuration - they would usually disable the option or remove it from the hardware entirely
19:10 segfault22 I would make a survival server, which would have an ores/resources mod I am working on, to add a lot more valuable materials and stronger tools
19:11 segfault22 There would be plenty of mods adding building materials, including fences gates and doors for all types of wood
19:12 segfault22 Also chests of different kinds of wood, with wood-based textures, and chests based on the various metals and gemstones which would give them higher capacity (based on the value of materials used to make them)
19:13 STHGOM cool :D
19:14 thePalindrome Ah, you need a server, not quite a vps
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19:19 segfault22 I have this Dell PC I can use, but I have to make a DIY fan controller because its fan controller circuit is ruined. I had to replace the RAM capacitors in it a while ago, and it still works. It would have up to 7GB of RAM (1x 4GB and 3x1GB)
19:20 segfault22 It has room for one hard-drive so I don't know if the raid configuration will work,... it may require an external hard-drive mount
19:23 thePalindrome As in one motherboard hookup or one drive bay?
19:24 segfault22 It has room for two, but one of the slots is intended as a floppy-drive port and I do not want to block the air flow. Since I will be using a raid PCI card, the SATA ports will be unused
19:25 segfault22 I took the disc drive out of it and I am using it in the PC I am using right now, until I can get another SATA-equipped one that is not ruined beyond usability.
19:27 segfault22 I will use this PC for copying some of my own game software onto discs, if I ever make some games, or make OS installation discs and minetest software discs to be used offline.
19:28 segfault22 also I will use it for storing backup copies of the world files for the server
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19:55 rubenwardy on my capture the flag server:
19:55 rubenwardy on my capture the flag server's log:
19:55 rubenwardy <player> lets play hunger games
19:55 rubenwardy :'(
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20:05 Amaz CTF > HG
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20:12 segfault22 CraigyDavi
20:13 segfault22 CraigyDavi: CraigyDavi: CraigyDavi:
20:13 segfault22 its not weurking
20:15 CraigyDavi segfault22, connect using 46.101.16.242 port 30000 for now
20:15 segfault22 oh okay, thank you :D
20:15 segfault22 I thought it was DNS-related or something
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20:55 rubenwardy Added guns to CTF (y)
20:57 Obani rubenwardy, CTF is back in dev ?
20:57 rubenwardy yeah
20:57 rubenwardy When I have time
20:57 rubenwardy the server is back online
20:57 rubenwardy but I haven't done much yet
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21:03 TheWild about original textures: is there a change that some textures will be replaced with nicer ones?
21:03 TheWild s/change/chance
21:04 est31 TheWild, I doubt everybody shares your views on what's nice and what isn't.
21:04 est31 this is personal taste stuff
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21:05 est31 you will always find people who like the old version of a texture better
21:05 TheWild yeah, you're right. I just started thinking "maybe it's just me again".
21:07 Obani TheWild, I like actual ones, but my mind is broken.. I played this game for too long :p
21:07 rubenwardy TheWild, you can use texture packs (and texture overriding maybe)
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21:17 rubenwardy Is anyone else getting a problem where health is invisible?
21:19 rubenwardy restarting the server fixed it
21:22 TheWild say, we have a solid non-light-emmiting block and the air next to it, having some light in param1.
21:22 TheWild When smooth lighting is disabled, Minetest gives this light to the face of block and we see it like face is reflecting the light. This is the "basic" form of lighting in Minetest.
21:22 TheWild However, when smooth lighting is enabled, Minetest gives the light to the vertices. On a floor, up to 4 squares can have a single vertex in common.
21:22 TheWild I'm interested how Minetest computes the light level for a vertex between those 4 squares. Is this minimum, maximum, average or something else?
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21:27 TheWild and wtf is with light_LUT. Is linear (0, 17, 34 ... 255) really that bad?
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21:28 est31 RealBadAngel knows this stuff
21:30 RealBadAngel TheWild, read the code
21:30 RealBadAngel all is in mapblock_mesh.cpp
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21:32 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest/minetest/b​lob/master/src/mapblock_mesh.cpp#L225
21:32 TheWild oops, I thought light_LUT is constant. My bad.
21:32 TheWild but still, there are "adjustments"
21:33 TheWild I was reading light.cpp
21:33 RealBadAngel there are just light level tables nothin more
21:34 RealBadAngel for smooth lighting off, all the vertices get same light value
21:35 RealBadAngel with smooth on, theres some weird math there ;)
21:36 RealBadAngel light is calculated for each vertex of the node
21:37 RealBadAngel so each vertex can have different light value depending on surrounding nodes and own light
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21:46 TheWild on smooth lighting enabled, when something that emits light (e.g. torch) is placed on flat surface, the "halo" often isn't a nice symmetric hexagon like in MC - it goes into ugly hexagon or 7-gon. This is because of triangle arrangement in a square. Color interpolations may look different on different arrangement. However, when certain conditions are met, triangle arrangment does not matter.
21:47 rubenwardy It seems that the behaviour of hud_set_flags has changed
21:47 rubenwardy now flag=nil means flag=false
21:48 rubenwardy rather than before, flag=nil meant no change.
21:48 TheWild AFAIK, on a flat floor there are no jumps of more than one level of light between vertices of square edges.
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21:53 TheWild so that comparing the light levels of vertices on a square and selecting the "better" triangle arrangment could fix the weird light patterns, but since I tested it by pen and notebook assuming perfectly linear light (gamma = 1.0), it may fail miserably on gammas other than 1.0
21:58 TheWild btw, ambient occlussion seems to already deal with the triangle arrangement
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22:25 TheWild hint for the API devs: in Minecraft when a block is placed or destroyed (or state changed?), six neighbor blocks are notified about such fact. So when a block is destroyed while a torch is on it, torch is notified, checks its new conditions and gets taken off. The same for sand, when it gets notified, it checks what is under and if nothing, starts to fall.
22:26 TheWild although in MT for example sand works as intended, some stuff not necessarily.
22:27 TheWild in MC it looks like every block notifies, but most of them do not react to notifications (there is simply nothing to do).
22:28 TheWild Maybe just overhead.
22:28 est31 we do have this in minetest with mapblocks
22:29 rubenwardy when would obj:get_luaentity() return nil?
22:29 kahrl TheWild: you can achieve the same thing with register_on_placenode / register_on_dignode
22:29 kahrl see builtin/game/falling.lua for an example
22:29 est31 (but what I say is only closely related)
22:31 kahrl rubenwardy: when it's an object that is not a lua entity
22:31 kahrl rubenwardy: a player for example, or perhaps a TestSAO or an ItemSAO
22:31 rubenwardy the object was spawned using minetest.add_entity({x=playerpos.x​,y=playerpos.y+1.5,z=playerpos.z}, arrow)
22:31 TheWild I know but it just for convenience. Mesecons pistons for example do not care to notify door and you can cut the door in half.
22:31 rubenwardy but obj:get_luaentity() returns nil
22:31 rubenwardy !mod throwing
22:31 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Throwing, PilzAdam version [throwing] by PilzAdam - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2805
22:31 rubenwardy nope
22:32 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=11437
22:32 est31 rubenwardy, it might be that add_entity returns nil
22:32 est31 do you have a check for it?
22:32 rubenwardy yes
22:33 est31 it might be that the arrow got deleted by the environment in the meantime
22:33 est31 due to some reason
22:33 rubenwardy my modified reason: https://gist.github.com/rube​nwardy/353c39e6887884dcea81
22:33 rubenwardy The environment shouldn't do anything in that period
22:36 est31 dunno then. perhaps dump core.luaentities?
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22:39 TheWild luaent = obj:get_luaentity(); In what condition obj can be still here, but luaent not?
22:39 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rube​nwardy/353c39e6887884dcea81
22:39 rubenwardy Works sometimes though
22:40 rubenwardy first three times I shot it works, then it didn'ta
22:40 rubenwardy all the same arrow
22:40 rubenwardy bbl
22:42 TheWild when add_entity is executed, does it immediately create luaentity or it is queued for a "little while later"?
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22:53 koz_ Does BlockMen hang out here any?
22:53 est31 sometimes he joins
22:53 est31 so yes.
22:53 koz_ OK, does anyone here know much about Wasteland?
22:53 koz_ I wanna ask some questions about it.
22:53 est31 koz_, what do you want to speak about with BlockMen?
22:53 koz_ est31: Wasteland questions.
22:54 est31 ah answered it already.
22:54 koz_ 1) How do I make food out of wheat I've grown?
22:54 koz_ 2) Can I make armour?
22:55 est31 take 4 wheat
22:55 est31 then you'll get flour
22:55 koz_ 3) Is there anything you can do with rotten meat to make it not-rotten?
22:55 est31 use the flour in a furnace
22:55 est31 you know, cook it.
22:55 koz_ And you get bread?
22:56 TheWild rubenwardy, can the object's on_activate or on_step in your code remove the object in some cases?
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22:56 est31 yes koz_
22:57 est31 about your second question: no
22:57 est31 armour needs a mod
22:57 koz_ I see.
22:57 est31 !mod armour
22:57 MinetestBot est31: Could not find anything.
22:57 est31 !mod armor
22:57 MinetestBot est31: 3D Armor [minetest-3d_armor] by stu - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4654
22:57 koz_ What about the rotten meat question?
22:57 est31 take that more for example
22:57 est31 MinetestBot, you cant anglaise spelling?
22:58 est31 stupid bot.
22:58 koz_ est31: Thanks - that helped.
22:59 koz_ Also, do you know which (if any) texture packs work well with Wasteland? Like, would Vanessa's 512 texture pack work OK?
23:01 est31 koz_, generally, yes. but I don't know whether all textures are covered.
23:01 est31 best you test it
23:01 koz_ est31: OK, I see. Thanks!
23:01 koz_ Also, nothing you can do with rotten meat to make it non-rotten?
23:02 est31 no, nothing I know of
23:03 koz_ est31: OK, thanks!
23:03 Ingar should be wormfood to grow worms for fishing
23:03 koz_ Are there any lern2mod guides for Minetest?
23:04 koz_ Ingar: I reckon if you combine bread with rotten meat x3 or so, you should be able to make a sandwich.
23:04 est31 koz_, read http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book
23:04 koz_ est31: Thanks!
23:04 Ingar koz_: or a Big Mac
23:05 koz_ Ingar: LOL!
23:05 koz_ Old meat in new buns, huh. :P
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23:07 koz_ est31: Does that book also contain information needed to make new texture packs?
23:07 koz_ s/information needed/the stuff you need to know
23:11 Amaz afaik that book focuses on modding, not texture pack making. Making texture packs is pretty easy though - just make a folder in the textures folder, named whatever you want, and add textures to it with the same name as they have in the mod.
23:12 est31 yeah, its very simple
23:12 Amaz Here's a list of textures used in the default mod: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_g​ame/tree/master/mods/default/textures
23:13 est31 The only thing about texture packs that needs a bit of documentation is the texture overrides file: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/​blob/master/doc/texture_overrides.txt
23:19 luizrpgluiz est31: you know how to birth a tree done in treedef in mapgen?
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23:42 luizrpgluiz est31: you know how to birth a tree done in treedef in mapgen?
23:42 est31 minetest.spawn_tree ? luizrpgluiz ?
23:43 luizrpgluiz est31: does not work, even putting the position coordinates
23:44 est31 then something is wrong with your treedef
23:44 est31 have you checked the log?
23:44 est31 also tried higher log levels?
23:45 luizrpgluiz est31: log?
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23:46 est31 luizrpgluiz, start minetest with verbose log level "minetest --verbose"
23:47 luizrpgluiz est31: I tried to spawn the example tree in the dev.minetest.net
23:49 JohnnyComeL8ly Cool. est31 is trying wayland.
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23:52 thePalindrome There's gonna be wayland support?
23:53 est31 dunno, perhaps?
23:53 est31 first I have to get it running
23:55 luizrpgluiz est31: does not operate even in verbose

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