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01:10 kaeza o/
01:18 kaeza the new mtg header is horrible :I
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02:16 est31 google knows that they aren't my startpage
02:16 est31 how do they know?!
02:16 est31 evil google
02:16 est31 you dont do the right thing
02:19 Emperor_Genshin <est31> how do they know?! <--- Main reason why I've stopped using google lol
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02:27 TacticalAcorn Hello
02:29 Emperor_Genshin Hi
02:30 kaeza o/
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02:37 TacticalAcorn Hello
02:37 est31 hello again!
02:37 TacticalAcorn Sorry just switched to a client instead of we chat
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02:38 TacticalAcorn *Webchat
02:38 TacticalAcorn Do you guys know of any good Community servers?
02:40 TacticalAcorn Because most of them are griefed
02:44 Wayward_One I personally enjoy VE's servers, MTZ-Basic, and the BlueLobster trio, among others
02:44 est31 TacticalAcorn, you can protect your builds
02:45 est31 then they cant get griefed if your password is secure enough to not get guessed
02:45 Emperor_Genshin there are also Areas mods
02:45 TacticalAcorn What about just test?
02:45 LazyJ +1 for Areas mod.
02:47 est31 just test is very anarchy like server
02:47 Emperor_Genshin hmm, speaking of servers I need to test out my WIP server at the moment, brb X3
02:47 est31 protecting there is hard
02:47 LazyJ Read Just Test's forum thread, take a tour of the server and then either keep it in your favorites list or not (I write down the connection info elsewhere because some servers take more time to get to know).\
02:47 est31 you need to be in range of two kinds of blocks
02:48 LazyJ Keep notes on the MT servers you tour that interest you.
02:48 Emperor_Genshin ^this
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02:48 LazyJ Some days you may be in the mood for battle, so log in to your favorite PvP server.
02:49 LazyJ Other days you might want to tinker with contraptions, Technic and Mesecon servers would fit the bill.
02:49 est31 and protection blocks are expensive
02:49 est31 need mese block
02:49 TacticalAcorn Hmm good point and I love mesecons
02:49 LazyJ You are not stuck to one specific server.
02:49 LazyJ There are a lot but only a few will suit your personal tastes.
02:50 est31 well thats what taste is about isnt it
02:50 LazyJ Sort of like restaurants. There are a lot of them, but only a few really appeal to you and those are the ones you return to when you are hungry for that particular type of menu.
02:51 TacticalAcorn Olive Garden
02:52 LazyJ I'd start with Minetest.net's Server forums.
02:52 TacticalAcorn I've been on there all the time
02:52 LazyJ Look for the ones that have been around a while and read through their threads to get an initial impression.
02:52 LazyJ Then make a list and tour them.
02:53 LazyJ There are many servers that don't have a thread. Look through the web version of the main server list.
02:53 LazyJ It has a bit more info when you mouse over some of the specs and if a server in the same country as you will have a better connection.
02:54 LazyJ But in the end, touring is the best way to try the various servers.
02:54 LazyJ
02:55 TacticalAcorn I just saw the Portabella village picture in the Linuxgaming thread nice build
02:56 LazyJ Thanks. ;)
02:56 LazyJ But that is in a secret area for now.
02:56 LazyJ A long term project with much more work to be done.
02:57 TacticalAcorn It looks like a great server
02:57 LazyJ But some day it will be open to the public.
02:57 LazyJ Expect lots of lag though.
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02:57 LazyJ We recently moved to another VPS and upgraded to MT 0.4.13-dev.
02:57 LazyJ Something spiked the lag.
02:58 LazyJ But if you have a stout enough PC and are patient, it can be a nice place to tour through.
02:58 LazyJ VanessaE's servers offer a lot too.
02:59 LazyJ The Creative and Survival servers are loaded with Dreambuilder.
02:59 LazyJ You'll get the most mods that way.
02:59 TacticalAcorn DreamBuilder?
02:59 LazyJ Dreambuilder is VanessaE's sub-game. Basically everything including the kitchen-sink.
03:00 TacticalAcorn Cool
03:00 LazyJ She keeps the mods in Dreambuilder fairly up-to-date.
03:01 LazyJ Technic, Mesecons, Pipeworks, HomeDecor, MoreTrees, PlantLife... the standards plus a lot of smaller, lesser known mods.
03:02 LazyJ I don't recall if she includes mobs in Dreambuilder or not.
03:02 LazyJ deezl and CWz's BlueLobster servers are well maintained too.
03:02 LazyJ They don't have as many mods installed but still a good selection.
03:03 LazyJ TT-Creative is creative-mode.
03:04 LazyJ BlueLobster Pro is survival-mode and mostly tuned for building. The spawn signs even warn that the server is for people who already know how to play Minetest - for seasoned Minetest players.
03:04 TacticalAcorn I like a good building server and a good survival server so these suggestions are great
03:04 LazyJ BL-Free4All... I don't know much about that one.
03:05 LazyJ MTZ-Basic used to be operated by Zeno` but has since been transferred to deezl.
03:05 LazyJ MTZ-Basic is tuned for smartphones and tablets, iirc.
03:06 LazyJ Not sure though; deezl may have changed things.
03:06 TacticalAcorn Cool I have it on my tablet
03:06 LazyJ King Arthur's Land is one of the legacy servers in the MT community.
03:06 LazyJ You have to register on KAL's own forum to be granted interact but the automated system hasn't always worked in the past.
03:07 LazyJ KAL has Technic installed but, as it's name would suggest, is very medieval themed.
03:08 LazyJ H2O Watershed is relatively new and uses paramat's Watershed mapgen.
03:08 TacticalAcorn I'm going to check out Kal
03:09 LazyJ There is some modification to the default game but other than that, MoreBlocks is the only other "building" mod installed. The rest are more utility/server maintenance-like.
03:09 Wayward_One BL-Free4All runs an older, modified version of carbone, and is more of a "hard core" server, with pvp and raids allowed, but still great for building
03:09 LazyJ Wayward_One is one of BlueLobster's staff.
03:10 TacticalAcorn Cool Hello
03:10 Wayward_One Hi :)
03:10 LazyJ Ok, now that I've talked-up other people's servers...
03:10 TacticalAcorn Do you have one of your own?
03:10 LazyJ LinuxGaming is a couple years old, doesn't have contraption mods, and the admin is a cranky old fart. :D
03:11 TacticalAcorn I would love to have one of my own but I don't want to use all of my internet data
03:11 Wayward_One But it's another of my favorites
03:11 LazyJ Aye. A VPS isn't cheap.
03:11 Wayward_One Also great for building
03:12 TacticalAcorn I've been looking for a free vps for ages never found a legit one
03:12 LazyJ Right now I'd like to grab the hosting service by the ears to get their attention.
03:12 LazyJ I had to cough up $460 for a one year subscription.
03:12 LazyJ Not much when you break it down monthly but I had to pay in one lump sum.
03:13 TacticalAcorn Wow
03:13 LazyJ Money is very tight in real life. Paying $460 for a "free" game is insane (but I've always been a little "off" anyway).
03:14 LazyJ Well, there is a lot more to it than that.
03:15 TacticalAcorn It's too bad there are no free hosting services out there
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03:15 LazyJ Everything costs. One way or another, everything costs.
03:15 TacticalAcorn Yep
03:16 LazyJ Even if you had your own hardware sitting in your room, you would still have to pay for the electricity and bandwidth. The bandwidth is where they getcha.
03:16 TacticalAcorn That's why I don't host my own server
03:16 sofar got a weird one. I'm playing with the mgv6_* spread values and after I increase X+Z values in the same way, my landscape is becoming heavily stretched in the Z axis
03:17 LazyJ paramat and hmmmm are the mapgen gurus.
03:17 JohnnyComeL8ly TacticalAcorn, you should try Linuxgaming... That's what I play on. ;-)
03:18 LazyJ VE-Survival may be a good one. It is survival-mode with Dreambuilder.
03:18 sofar oh, I had Z higher for the _cave spread, weird that that affects the entire landscape
03:19 LazyJ BL-Free4All is a good one if you want more survival challenge.
03:20 LazyJ H20 Watershed, is all together a different challenge because of the mapgen.
03:20 LazyJ With that thought in mind, Xanadu is another server I've heard good things about (but have yet to tour).
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03:22 LazyJ LinuxGaming, King Arthur's Land, and H2O Watershed don't get a lot of player traffic. They are more reserved servers by their nature.
03:22 LazyJ So app-kids quickly get bored on them.
03:22 LazyJ Which is the way the grown-ups like it. >:D
03:23 TacticalAcorn Definetly
03:23 TacticalAcorn And watershed looks really nice I'm touring right now
03:23 LazyJ Add BlueLobster-Pro to that list.
03:23 LazyJ H2O Watershed is hosted in France, iirc.
03:23 LazyJ The admin speaks fluent English.
03:24 LazyJ But he has restrictions.
03:24 LazyJ His server, his rules.
03:24 LazyJ I'm looking for the link of the restricted build area map...
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03:26 LazyJ Here it is. In the upper left corner is a listing of the general rules. He prefers medieval or steam-punk builds.
03:26 LazyJ http://h2o.minetest.in/protected_zones.png
03:26 LazyJ
03:26 TacticalAcorn I like steampunk
03:27 LazyJ The area outside of the "protected" zone is subject to wipes.
03:27 LazyJ I gather the server-op edits the world database to save only the 2000x2000 square, central area and everything else outside of that gets reset from time to time.
03:28 LazyJ I just toured it recently.
03:28 LazyJ Not much development, build-wise, but then the server has only been public for a few months.
03:29 LazyJ BlueLobster-Pro has been around for awhile and has some decent builds on it.
03:29 TacticalAcorn Well bye and thanks for all the support
03:29 LazyJ VE-Survival has gone through a few iterations, iirc but the spawn area is well developed.
03:29 LazyJ yw ;)
03:33 JohnnyComeL8ly est31: Use DuckDuckGo - my fav.
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03:41 diemartin o/
03:42 LazyJ \o kaeza
03:42 diemartin what's up¿
03:42 diemartin *?
03:43 LazyJ I'm sort of catching up on this channel, myself.
03:46 JohnnyComeL8ly Same here!
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05:49 JohnnyComeL8ly Goodnight, fellow miners!
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07:24 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: sound_openal.cpp: remove unused header bdfb761 http://git.io/v4OXr (2015-11-15T08:17:32+01:00)
07:33 sofar does anyone know what the node name is for a birch tree slab?
07:34 sofar I can create it, but unified_inventory can't find it in the item list, and I don't see it registered directly :/
07:39 sofar moretrees:slab_birch_planks
07:39 sofar moretrees:slab_oak_planks same same
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08:16 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgfractal: Revert unnecessary duplication of parameters cb7da90 http://git.io/v4O94 (2015-11-15T08:13:36Z)
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08:53 jin_xi wow mt feels really fast recently, terrain is emerging very smoothly and high fps with long view range
08:54 jin_xi and i see lots of ABM took xxxms (longer thant 200ms) output
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09:00 hmmmm that's the second time somebody's commented on minetest being faster
09:00 hmmmm we haven't done anything as of recent to cause this
09:01 est31 jin_xi, if you want you can bisect
09:01 est31 jin_xi, can you paste output of "git reflog"?
09:01 est31 and what git commit are you on right now
09:02 est31 but hmmmm is right, it wasn't intended to make minetest actually faster :)
09:02 hmmmm i bet something is subtly broken
09:03 jin_xi well, maybe its just subjective
09:03 jin_xi would be nice to have some way of better testing
09:05 jin_xi est im on your 'remove unused header' commit
09:07 est31 what has been the commit of the last build?
09:08 est31 you can see commit history with git reflog
09:12 jin_xi bdfb761 i think
09:13 est31 no
09:13 est31 thats your current commit
09:13 est31 thats the header one
09:13 jin_xi ops
09:14 jin_xi 0bf1984
09:15 est31 okay, thats a bit old
09:15 est31 seems we did something that improved subjective performance, interesting
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09:21 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default/mapgen: Use sidelen 16 for low density decorations 0d49978 http://git.io/v4ONy (2015-11-15T09:20:21Z)
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10:45 Krock What does a nerd consume?
10:45 Krock Hash.
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10:51 technics hi - its not possible to enable v7's snow biomes in v6, isnt it? are there only mods i had read they working bad?
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10:52 technics the wiki says, snow biones are available in v6 / v5 also, but i doesnt found any setting for that...http://wiki.minetest.net/Biomes
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11:10 Krock technics, add "snowbiomes" to the "mgv6_spflags" variable
11:10 Krock it's found in the map_data.txt
11:11 Krock s/data/meta/
11:14 technics thanks Krock - i wondering if this file contain examples or direct settings?
11:14 technics or are this generated settings from minetest.conf
11:14 technics ?
11:14 Krock those are the by-world settings
11:15 Krock copied from your minetest.conf settings
11:15 technics will this gerated
11:15 Krock minetset.conf.example -> minetest.conf -> map_meta.txt, so chaning the last one will not change the minetest.conf file
11:16 technics oops - will this generated after new settings or  have i do an echo > ?
11:16 * Krock insterts a break here.. away
11:16 Krock -t
11:21 technics got it, thanks Krock, have a nice break^^
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11:29 technics omg, that makes cliphes like switching to a hole new mapgen :(
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11:44 * Krock return;
11:44 Krock !next
11:44 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
11:46 technics ^^ ... i dind expect that... https://files.tchncs.de/Images/Random/Sc​reenshots/screenshot_20151115_124002.png
11:48 Krock err. I told you to change that single param, not the whole file
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11:56 technics oh, than its good that i maked a backup of it...sorry, the mainproblem is my english^^
12:00 technics yea, looks better now, thanks! :D
12:00 technics !next
12:00 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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12:07 Krock !cat
12:07 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/A6Pw3Cf.jpg
12:08 Krock meow, iz me, trapd
12:08 Krock !cat
12:08 MinetestBot http://i.imgur.com/3012uP2.jpg
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12:42 MinetestBot [git] LelixSuper -> minetest/minetest: Translated using Weblate (Italian) c19b43d http://git.io/v43aa (2015-11-15T13:40:14+01:00)
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12:44 MinetestBot [git] Amaz1 -> minetest/minetest: Add a status text for autorun e664abe http://git.io/v43Vs (2015-11-15T13:42:31+01:00)
12:44 MinetestBot [git] TeTpaAka -> minetest/minetest: Allow craft replacements to use groups 3f8eb5e http://git.io/v43VG (2015-11-15T13:41:38+01:00)
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13:56 Sokomine hi :-) i could use some feedback. mg_villages is mostly ready to be released. the documentation can be found under https://github.com/Sokomine/mg_villages/wiki   feedback regarding the docu is welcome
13:57 who_wants_some nice to see it released
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14:01 who_wants_some will be cool to have a subgame with it and traders and mobs...
14:05 Sokomine not quite released :-) but soon. i hope someone takes a look at the documentation and checks if it's halfway comprehensible and doesn't hurt a native speaker's eyes too much
14:06 Sokomine i also intend to offer a modpack that contains all the mods mg_villages works well together with
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14:42 who_wants_some including mobs and traders? :}
14:47 who_wants_some Sokomine, in some places you need carriage return
14:48 who_wants_some Sokomine, beginning of the page has "A medievel village This mod adds...", where is . ?
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14:50 who_wants_some Sokomine, why do you need "farm_tiny_3" description for Plot N?
14:50 who_wants_some it feels hacky
14:51 who_wants_some Sokomine, add carriage returns after some pictures...
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15:16 who_wants_some Krock, is that only me or your last build has changed v_range calculation? i have it at 240 most of the time, including near forests (fps goes down to 30)
15:17 Krock who_wants_some, there could be a new commit that had changes in the calculation
15:17 who_wants_some don't see it on github...
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15:22 who_wants_some fps does look better
15:23 who_wants_some still stuttering when generating meshes if I understand it correctly
15:23 Krock hmm... acn't find any commit
15:23 who_wants_some me too
15:23 who_wants_some maybe some obscure change
15:24 who_wants_some hmm
15:25 who_wants_some i have strange brigthness pulsation when on snow... is this my monitor or shader problem?
15:26 who_wants_some main_loop sleep is higher
15:28 who_wants_some mesh load/gen causes stutter, hmm
15:29 who_wants_some or whatever
15:29 who_wants_some Krock, maybe it is ABM catch up thing, that was changed recently
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15:34 Krock Maybe. I don't know.
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15:39 who_wants_some just found 190 nodes high sand mountain ._.
15:43 Krock climb it and dig until you find a water source
15:44 who_wants_some why?
15:44 who_wants_some it has rock basement, it will not fall down
15:45 who_wants_some cute little floating islands with trees on top
15:45 who_wants_some not bad
15:46 who_wants_some love that seed
15:49 who_wants_some here you go https://i.imgur.com/NdhRXa6.png
15:50 Krock needs more JPEG
15:50 Krock and UFOs
15:51 who_wants_some it is png
15:51 who_wants_some and no ufo
15:51 Krock that's why it needs jpeg .P
15:51 who_wants_some it is ifo
15:51 who_wants_some identified flying object
15:51 who_wants_some looks cool
15:51 Krock identified... so you know why it's floating on there?
15:52 Krock there's alse some anti-gravity sand
15:53 who_wants_some that one is bad ass too https://i.imgur.com/ut47E8m.jpg
15:54 who_wants_some and in jpeg
15:55 Krock pls. http://needsmorejpeg.com/i/dfcq
15:55 Krock png is just too good
15:55 Krock but heh - that's a great view
15:55 who_wants_some lol
15:56 who_wants_some imgur converted it to jpg automatically
15:56 Krock only if it's bigger than one or two megabytes
15:56 who_wants_some Krock, 29kb! *unpacks his modem*
15:56 who_wants_some this seed has 2 very big forests near each other on a big hill
15:57 phantombeta [01:53.34 PM] <who_wants_some> that one is bad ass too https://i.imgur.com/ut47E8m.jpg // ow, I can feel the jpeg-ness
15:57 Krock \o/ 56kbit modem
15:57 phantombeta [01:55.08 PM] <Krock> pls. http://needsmorejpeg.com/i/dfcq // plsno
15:57 Krock pls yet
15:57 Krock *yes
15:57 phantombeta this site is evil
15:57 phantombeta pure evil
15:57 Krock phantombeta, no, it saves a lot disk space!
15:58 who_wants_some can you jpeg into jpeg again?
15:59 Krock I doupt its possible to make it smaller again
15:59 phantombeta Krock: I prefer not having disk space than not having eyes because I ripped them out.
15:59 phantombeta Because that's what jpegs make me wanna do
16:01 * who_wants_some wonders if pcg_random has some effect on tree randomness and stuff
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16:03 Krock phantombeta, good to hear. Uploading all my screenshots there now :P
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16:09 Calinou JPEG RULEZ
16:10 Krock ^
16:11 swift110-phone Hey guys
16:11 Krock Hi swifted phone
16:11 Calinou hi hipster programming language
16:11 swift110-phone Lol
16:12 swift110-phone You guys are welcome to my channel #forthenerds
16:12 Krock You're not in there
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16:18 swift110-phone Lol
16:18 swift110-phone I am in there
16:18 Krock +1 Calinou
16:19 Krock swift110-phone, bottom right, yes we know.
16:20 swift110-phone Yep
16:20 Calinou http://www.commitstrip.com/wp-conte​nt/uploads/2015/11/Strip-Le-type-de​-Stackoverflow-650-finalenglish.jpg
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16:25 who_wants_some amazing
16:26 who_wants_some jungle, pine forest and apple forest near each other
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16:32 who_wants_some A fatal error occured: bad allocation
16:32 who_wants_some 32 bit problems
16:34 swift110-phone Wow
16:52 who_wants_some interesting
16:53 who_wants_some mountain top with rock on one side and sandstone on another
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17:05 pium Hi
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17:48 who_wants_some hi
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19:17 fireglow Is there a working nether mod? I've tried https://github.com/HybridDog/minetest-nether but the portals don't work, and the mapgen is somewhat broken.
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19:38 Samson1 What is the command to teleport players using the command block in mesecones?
19:39 ElectronLibre "teleport <player> <position|other player>"
19:39 Samson1 vOkay:)
19:39 Samson1 Okay*
19:39 Samson1 Say
19:39 Samson1 If you had a leaver
19:39 Samson1 What would the command be to teleport the player who activated the command block?
19:40 ElectronLibre A wall lever? "teleport @nearest <position|player>"
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19:40 Samson1 Oh
19:40 Samson1 Okay:)
19:40 ElectronLibre In command blocks player names can be replaced by references like @nearest, @farthest, and @random.
19:40 Krock Harry potter quote
19:41 Samson1 If there were to players next to it would it teleport both of them?
19:41 Krock alket, Norbert is cute
19:41 ElectronLibre Only the closest one.
19:41 Samson1 Okay:)
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19:42 Samson1 I was just wondering because I have made a spawn in the sky for my server and I have made two command block say "welcome to Samson's world!" And I put nearest and it covers the hole spawn:\
19:42 alket Kray: XD
19:43 alket Krock: xD
19:43 Samson1 XD
19:43 Samson1 I don't know why but
19:43 Samson1 XD
19:43 Samson1 :D
19:46 Samson1 It's not working:\
19:46 Samson1 :/
19:46 Samson1 |D
19:46 ElectronLibre People aren't teleported?
19:47 Samson1 Well
19:47 Samson1 There is only be to teleportXD
19:47 Samson1 No:)
19:47 ElectronLibre "teleport" can only move one single player at a time.
19:47 Samson1 I am not being teleported
19:47 ElectronLibre Are you the closest player to the block?
19:48 Samson1 Yes
19:48 Samson1 3 or 4 blocks away
19:48 ElectronLibre Are you sure the lever switched the block on?
19:49 Samson1 I can try with a redstone torch:)
19:49 ElectronLibre Mesecons, not redstone.
19:49 Samson1 XD
19:49 Samson1 I have changed the texture:D
19:49 Samson1 It looks like redstone:)
19:50 ElectronLibre It's not, it's meant to be a restone-like mod for minetest, called mesecons.
19:50 Samson1 I have been thinking of changing the name for my server as wellXD
19:51 Samson1 I won't though
19:51 Samson1 I did not make the mod.
19:51 Samson1 Would you like me to tell you what I put in the command block?
19:51 ElectronLibre You can't change mods' names that easily.
19:52 Samson1 I knowXD
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19:52 Samson1 That's why I want to try and change it:D!
19:52 ElectronLibre I only need to know if, adding a, let's say, "say <message>", in the block, do you see the <message>?
19:52 Samson1 Yes:)
19:52 Samson1 The command that I put in is this
19:53 ElectronLibre If you're going to paste multiple lines use a paste service.
19:53 who_wants_some hmm
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19:53 who_wants_some i see flame on my torch from lava.. but it is not destroying it
19:53 Samson1 "teleport @nearest (co words)
19:54 ElectronLibre What are the coordinates?
19:54 Samson1 "teleport @nearest (coordinates) |player
19:54 Samson1 "
19:54 Samson1 They are
19:54 ElectronLibre Okay, my bad.
19:55 Samson1 what?
19:55 ElectronLibre the <1|2> means that you need to put either a 1-like parameter or a 2-like parameter, not both with a pipe character inbetween.
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19:56 Samson1 3 353 - 153.0, 387 .4, 694.6
19:56 Samson1 I managed!
19:56 Samson1 :D
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20:12 Samson1 ElectronLibre,  I have got it working! Thank you:)
20:13 ElectronLibre You're welcome.
20:13 Samson1 ElectronLibre,  I had messed up the coordinates XD
20:13 Samson1 :)
20:13 ElectronLibre Oh.
20:13 Samson1 Happy building:)
20:13 Samson1 :D
20:15 Samson1 ElectronLibre,  Er, just one more thing, I can you get a command block to say in chat "(player) teleported to (??)"
20:15 Samson1 How can you get a*
20:15 ElectronLibre You can. I think that's the "say" command.
20:16 Samson1 Oh
20:16 Samson1 Silly me
20:16 Samson1 I did not think of that:P
20:17 Samson1 ElectronLibre,  how can I get it to say the players name that was teleported?
20:18 ElectronLibre Err.
20:18 ElectronLibre Use @nearest.
20:18 hoodedice guys, help
20:18 Samson1 Okay
20:18 hoodedice I think I'm becoming a microsoft shill
20:18 Samson1 don't worry
20:18 Samson1 :)
20:18 hoodedice it started with me buying a Windows phone... then I activated Cortana and Location on both my laptop and phone
20:19 hoodedice she's reminding me to wash the clothes, help meeeeeeeee
20:19 ElectronLibre hoodedice: Now big brother knows what you dream about.
20:19 Samson1 hoodedice, My favourite operating system was Windows 98:D
20:19 hoodedice also, I'm hyped for this for some reason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfWBSRibuVY =(
20:19 Samson1 :D!!
20:19 hoodedice !title
20:19 MinetestBot hoodedice: The New Microsoft Band - YouTube
20:20 Samson1 ElectronLibre,  So
20:20 Samson1 ElectronLibre,  What would/how would you do that?
20:21 Samson1 Would I just tell it to say "Player was teleported to spawn?
20:21 Samson1 I would prefer it if it said that players name
20:21 ElectronLibre "say @nearest was teleported to the spawn" ; as far as I know about how those blocks replace the @something, it should work.
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20:27 Samson1 Erm
20:27 Samson1 ElectronLibre, I am having  big problem with textures, like the moon and sun
20:28 ElectronLibre What kind of problems?
20:28 Samson1 When I try and large them up in GIMP it does not work
20:28 hoodedice large them?
20:29 hoodedice as in, zoom in, or resize canvas?
20:29 Samson1 ElectronLibre,  The sun is 2018 PIX in diameter and it still stays the same
20:29 Samson1 resize
20:29 ElectronLibre I think that's normal.
20:29 Samson1 Oh
20:29 Samson1 But
20:29 Samson1 Mm
20:30 ElectronLibre You only change the resolution by rezising the picture ; the engine uses a hardcoded size.
20:30 Samson1 They are the size of the cursor
20:30 Samson1 Okay
20:30 Samson1 :)
20:30 ElectronLibre The size of the cursor?
20:30 Samson1 Yes
20:30 Samson1 Tiny
20:31 ElectronLibre Can you send a screenshot?
20:31 Samson1 I supose I have changed the cursor is well:D
20:31 Samson1 I can do:)
20:31 Samson1 I just don't know how toXD
20:31 Samson1 I can take it
20:31 Samson1 I would need to know how to sent it on XChat
20:32 hoodedice upload to imgcrush or imgur
20:32 hoodedice copy + paste URL
20:32 ElectronLibre Use an image upload site like https://lut.im/ .
20:32 Samson1 Okay:)
20:32 Samson1 Okay:)
20:32 hoodedice Okay:)
20:32 ElectronLibre I must be sick, I saw three time the same message.
20:32 ElectronLibre s/time/times.
20:33 hoodedice *I saw the same message three times
20:34 ElectronLibre Thanks for the grammar correction.
20:37 hoodedice At this point, I wonder if English has it wrong with the word placement
20:37 hoodedice Arabic and French, it works like this: "The tree tall"
20:37 hoodedice That reminds me, Calinou, how are you doing?
20:38 ElectronLibre I used a french-like form to build that sentence, that's why it was incorrect.
20:39 hoodedice incorrect it may be in English, but stop you no one can from Yoda =D
20:40 Samson1 ElectronLibre,  Here is a link to the sun
20:40 Samson1 ElectronLibre,  https://lut.im/wqImIbTeWO/9gNudeoZeznvXByK.png
20:40 hoodedice that looks about alright to me, Sam
20:40 ElectronLibre It's normal size.
20:40 Calinou hi hoodedice, I'm fine
20:40 Samson1 ElectronLibre,  Here is a link to the moon and cursor: https://lut.im/g4LZqd3opD/DIArZDIMuGnZTvZ0.png
20:41 hoodedice Good to hear that
20:41 Samson1 It's very small to what it's men't to be
20:41 Calinou hoodedice, https://github.com/Calinou/veraball
20:41 Calinou it's a game I made in 2 days
20:41 Calinou (3D, uses Godot)
20:42 ElectronLibre Samson1: No problems about those.
20:42 hoodedice (I asked in context of the recent attacks)
20:42 Samson1 If you look at the sun in JohnSmith texturepack, (on Minecraft) its 1/2 times bigger
20:42 hoodedice also, still shilling for roboto, eh?
20:42 hoodedice Noto is much better
20:43 Samson1 ElectronLibre, Okay, should I just ignore it then?
20:43 ElectronLibre You should.
20:43 ElectronLibre You can't do anything as far as I know.
20:43 Calinou hoodedice, the game uses PT Sans :P
20:44 Calinou oh nevermind
20:44 Calinou it actually uses Roboto
20:44 hoodedice I'm looking at the basic logic, and the code actually looks good to read
20:44 Calinou yeah I'm mixing stuff up
20:44 Calinou I tried making better logic in my code, but it is still far from perfect.
20:44 hoodedice too bad I'm too involved with C at this point to learn newer things
20:44 Calinou I should apply object-oriented principles, since Godot is best used with those
20:44 Calinou I try to use AnimationPlayer for animations as often as possible
20:45 Calinou this reduces the amount of code required
20:45 Calinou the whole game is ~150 lines of code
20:45 hoodedice TBH, OOP goes well on godot from my understanding
20:45 hoodedice given that you can have a whole scene for each object
20:46 Calinou every script is pretty much its own object
20:46 hoodedice it just screams OBJECT
20:46 Calinou hoodedice, the plan is to have a modern-looking Neverball-style game, with easy level creation
20:46 Calinou and possibly networked multiplayer
20:46 hoodedice hf with that
20:47 Calinou Neverball is great but it has dated graphics, no multiplayer…
20:47 Calinou and it isn't easy to make levels for
20:47 hoodedice If I get free time after this semester, I might actually work to get actual C skills
20:47 hoodedice not the ones from 1989
20:47 hoodedice then I want to write up that modding GUI thing I talked about a few years ago =P
20:47 Calinou in 2 days I have 2 oral presentations to give (as a student)
20:47 Calinou one on Google, one on The Social Network (the 2010 movie)
20:48 hoodedice ewww
20:48 hoodedice hf
20:48 hoodedice talk about how material design sucks
20:48 hoodedice and how big of a cunt zukerberg was
20:48 hoodedice =P
20:48 hoodedice also, http://jordach.net/m88
20:48 hoodedice school's been keeping me from updating it
20:48 Calinou I actually talk a bit about their open source projects
20:49 Calinou including Material Design Lite, their CSS framework
20:49 hoodedice google's hit that point where I can compare their software to ubuntu
20:50 hoodedice it is more free, and easier to mess around with, but it is as usable as a daily driver as a conventional laptop with ubuntu
20:50 rubenwardy hoodedice, why do you have a dir on jordach's website?
20:50 hoodedice where your wifi bugs out every 30 minutes
20:50 hoodedice BECAUSE I CAN
20:50 rubenwardy My website has undergone mega changes recently: http://rubenwardy.com/
20:50 hoodedice (I paid for half of it to use it as a build machine, but never got the time to configure things -- a celeron can do only so many big builds a day)
20:51 * hoodedice high fives rubenwardy for using the white on black approach
20:51 Calinou rubenwardy, simple and clean
20:51 Calinou loads quite quickly
20:52 rubenwardy I like minimalism
20:53 rubenwardy I'm not quite happy with it, it looks colorless
20:53 hoodedice I am going to make my website animations out of wow.js only
20:53 hoodedice that is all I need
20:53 hoodedice this reminds me -- I am also going to write up a C program that runs server side every weekend and updates the site
20:54 rubenwardy My website works without JS almost unnoticably
20:54 hoodedice converts txt files in markdown I drop into the site's owncloud into html and css
20:54 rubenwardy The only thing JS adds is a smooth scroll
20:54 rubenwardy A 4.3KB file is used for that
20:54 Calinou your smooth scroll is extremely fast
20:54 Calinou too fast even, I'd say
20:54 rubenwardy I also use jQuery because I'm lazy
20:54 rubenwardy I want it to be subtile
20:54 hoodedice is mine heavy?
20:54 Calinou jQuery :(
20:55 Calinou try Zepto
20:55 Calinou maybe it'll work
20:55 Calinou http://zeptojs.com/
20:55 Calinou less than 10 KB when gzipped and minified
20:55 rubenwardy I only use jQuery to change the opacity of an element depending on how far the page is scrolled down
20:56 rubenwardy All my js is FOSS
20:56 rubenwardy as expected
20:56 rubenwardy and LibreJS compatible
20:57 Calinou do you really need IE 8 support?
20:57 Calinou you added a conditional comment for Respond.js and html5shiv
20:58 rubenwardy no, but I'll add it anyway
20:58 Calinou also, if you're using jQuery, at least use 2.0
20:58 Calinou it's a tad lighter :)
20:59 rubenwardy ok
21:00 rubenwardy I aim to convert it to raw JS maybe
21:00 rubenwardy I don't use much
21:01 Out`Of`Control Hi, running recent hud_hunger mod keep getting this  "ERROR[Server]: Better HUD[error]: Not enough parameters given to change HUD item"
21:01 rubenwardy I'm remaking Atari's Pong for the extension of my uni computing coursework
21:01 rubenwardy It's set weekly
21:01 rubenwardy more like graded  homework than coursework
21:03 Calinou too bad you can't use Godot :3
21:03 rubenwardy meh
21:03 rubenwardy too much overhead and learning
21:03 rubenwardy I have to use SDL, anyway
21:04 rubenwardy and C.
21:04 rubenwardy I don't like SDL
21:04 rubenwardy SFML > SFL
21:04 rubenwardy * SDL
21:05 Calinou overhead? Godot seems to use little CPU on my system
21:05 ElectronLibre left #minetest
21:05 Calinou even my laptop
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21:06 Calinou and it's quite intuitive, I didn't read any AnimationPlayer tutorials yet I can use it :P
21:08 hoodedice !g sfml
21:08 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://www.sfml-dev.org/
21:09 Calinou http://www.sfml-dev.org/download/bindings.php
21:09 Calinou hmm, nice
21:09 Calinou but the Python one isn't up-to-date :(
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21:09 Calinou I ordered Python / JavaScript / Node.js stickers from here BTW: https://notifuse.com/stickers
21:10 Calinou before they went overbooked with the requests
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21:50 who_wants_some what can i do with diamond shard?
21:51 hoodedice is it from a mod?
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21:58 who_wants_some nope
21:59 who_wants_some sorry, i mean "Mese Crystal Fragment"
21:59 hoodedice some mods have support for it
21:59 who_wants_some nevermind, found info already
22:01 rubenwardy Calinou, you can get $50 of Digital Ocean credit if you add your uni email to github (it can be private) and go to some web form
22:01 rubenwardy https://education.github.com/pack
22:02 hoodedice thanks ruben!
22:03 Calinou rubenwardy, I already have an host but thanks
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22:52 rubenwardy yay!#
22:52 rubenwardy Coursework is done!
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22:56 rubenwardy Pong screenshot: https://twitter.com/rubenwar​dy/status/666026862146113536
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23:14 luizrpgluiz Hello, does anyone know how to generate a construction like in mod of ruins in the wasteland?
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23:25 luizrpgluiz hi
23:33 hoodedice hey, I'm here, but I cannot help you with that issue unfortunately =(
23:33 hoodedice hang around a bit, someone might pop up
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23:41 luizrpgluiz hoodedice:you talked to me?
23:41 hoodedice yeah
23:42 luizrpgluiz hoodedice: you do mods for minetest?
23:42 hoodedice I do not, unfortunately
23:42 hoodedice I used to play this and also manage the twitter, but I no longer find time to do so
23:43 hoodedice if you are asking about generating buildings like in wasteland or villages, then I suggest you look at the source code for those mods
23:46 luizrpgluiz hoodedice: you can generate a treedef or L-system tree in map generator ?
23:47 hoodedice I think I heard certain mod-devs talking about that
23:47 hoodedice let me dig up the lua_api.txt
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23:50 who_wants_some question, how can i craft everything at once?
23:50 who_wants_some middle button can craft 10 items
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