Time Nick Message 00:01 rubenwardy Could NOT find Curses and LuaJIT not found, using bundled Lua: after having done sudo apt get install luajit ncurses-dev? 00:05 E4xoi where does calinou live 00:05 E4xoi im worried for him 00:06 rubenwardy -DCURSES_USE_NCURSES=1 -DCURSES_INCLUDE_PATH="/usr/include/curses.h" -DCURSES_LIBRARY="/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libncurses.so.5" solves it 00:07 kahrl_ rubenwardy: very strange, FindCurses.cmake should definitely look in those places 00:08 rubenwardy now for fixing luajit... 00:08 kahrl_ although if you want proper unicode support, you should use ncursesw instead of ncurses 00:10 rubenwardy luajit fixed with -DENABLE_LUAJIT=1 -DLUA_INCLUDE_DIR="/usr/include/luajit.h" -DLUA_LIBRARY="/lib/x86_65-linux-gnu/luajit-5.1.so" 00:13 Xack (010538) E4xoi | im worried for him 00:13 Xack i was hoping they'd be online so i could ask them if they're alright 00:23 rubenwardy turned out that luajit is called libluajit-5.1-dev 00:36 rubenwardy /usr/bin/ld: CMakeFiles/minetestserver.dir/terminal_chat_console.cpp.o: undefined reference to symbol 'wtimeout' 00:40 thePalindrome_ If I submitted a patch for the engine to expose an api function, how hard would it be to get it accepted? 00:41 rubenwardy depends 00:41 rubenwardy on the quality of the patch 00:42 rubenwardy if the patch is good, then it will be easy 00:42 rubenwardy however you'll need to pressure devs into reviewing and accepting your patch 00:55 thePalindrome_ I see 01:11 JohnnyComeL8ly rubenwardy: You have to make sure that libncursesw-dev is installed. 01:12 JohnnyComeL8ly rubenwardy: I went through the same issues... I had to learn that "luajit" is like a python console. 01:13 rubenwardy I tried libluajit-dev and libluajit and luajit-dev, but none of them worked 01:13 rubenwardy stupid version quantifiers 01:14 JohnnyComeL8ly Don't you have a "lister" for the packages available in Fedora? 01:15 JohnnyComeL8ly rubenwardy: Like " apt search " 01:16 rubenwardy ah 01:16 JohnnyComeL8ly or sub pkg_name for keyword 01:18 JohnnyComeL8ly rubenwardy: Did you install libncursesw ? 01:19 thePalindrome_ yum/dnf can search 01:19 JohnnyComeL8ly That is necessary for " --terminal " to be working.... 01:19 thePalindrome_ btw, on debian it's apt-cache 01:19 rubenwardy I disabled curses in the end 01:19 rubenwardy but libncursesw existed in /lib/x86 whatever 01:20 JohnnyComeL8ly thePalindrome_: I like the colors in apt. ;-) 01:23 JohnnyComeL8ly rubenwardy: I found est31's --terminal to be interesting... I could imagine using it for my own server (I did use it, but it was just for my littlest brothers). 03:22 rubenwardy !title http://rubenwardy.com/mtostd/ 03:22 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Welcome - Minetest Standards 03:22 rubenwardy an attempt to make a collection of guidelines and lists to help make mods interact with each other better. 03:30 JohnnyComeL8ly rubenwardy: Sounds good. 04:29 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Mgfractal: Create a choice of 4 mandelbrot formulas 13987d6a8 http://git.io/v4LM7 (152015-11-14T04:25:47Z) 04:31 swift110-phone Hey 04:52 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Rui914 -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Beds: Make non pointable by pointable definition 131d8def5 http://git.io/v4LSD (152015-11-14T04:49:22Z) 04:52 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Default, fire: Disable catch-up in some ABMs 13e41a411 http://git.io/v4LSy (152015-11-14T04:49:03Z) 05:19 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Beds: Re-add commas at list ends 134ef6810 http://git.io/v4L5C (152015-11-14T05:18:11Z) 06:38 M_Angel I updated my game 06:39 M_Angel now when I try to runt it 06:39 M_Angel I get this error: 06:39 M_Angel minetest: symbol lookup error: minetest: undefined symbol: _ZNK7leveldb6Status8ToStringB5cxx11Ev 07:08 M_Angel nvm me dumb 07:08 M_Angel I fixed that 07:50 bleak_fire_ hi 07:51 bleak_fire_ my server has been destroyed by corium griefers 07:51 bleak_fire_ i never heard of corium 07:51 bleak_fire_ or chernobylite 07:51 bleak_fire_ but i changed "enable_corium_griefing" to "false" and it still allows corium sources and spilling corium buckets 07:54 bleak_fire_ i have lava protection mod on for a reason 07:54 bleak_fire_ there should be a corium one 07:55 bleak_fire_ the option "enable corium griefing" doesnt seem to stop it 07:55 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Decoration API: Fix missing low density decorations 13fc89f46 http://git.io/v4tkk (152015-11-14T07:54:03Z) 07:59 bleak_fire_ problem is if i disable the whole technic mod i lose the chests 08:03 bleak_fire_ chernobylite is a bitch to cut through and there's so much of it 10:17 Xack Calinou: !!!!! 10:17 Xack Calinou: are you alright? 10:18 Obani ? 10:19 Xack Obani: concerning the attacks in paris last night 10:20 Obani 0.o 10:21 Krock Xack, do you know how HUGE paris is? 10:22 Xack Krock: there's always a chance sheesh :P 10:22 Xack at least let me express some sort of concern for Calinou 10:22 Calinou hi 10:22 Obani Calinou, you're from Paris ? 10:22 Calinou no, I'm near Troyes 10:22 Calinou which is 120 km away 10:22 Xack ah 10:22 Obani Yeah, that's what I was thinking to xD 10:22 Xack anyway hi czl 10:23 * Krock drives to Troyes and shouts for "Calinou, where are you!?" 10:23 Calinou I don't know anyone in real life who plays Minetest, they all play Minecraft 10:24 Krock Me neither.. we must spread Minetest like .. spread. 10:46 bleak_fire_ AFAIK Minecraft doesnt have protection and you're stuck with the lego style graphics, right? 10:47 Calinou bleak_fire_, you can use realistic texture packs :P 10:48 Krock realistic textures for an UFO, as example 11:00 bleak_fire_ ok well i'm going to bed now, realbadangel just fixed the technic problem i was having, you might want to update your installation of technic 11:00 bleak_fire_ or face griefers 11:01 bleak_fire_ same with plantlife_modpack a griefer bug was very recently fixed 11:01 bleak_fire_ goodnight 14:08 hisforever Where Can I get the url to post a screen shot up in here? 14:12 ElectronLibre https://lut.im/ This one should be good enough. 14:13 hisforever thanks 14:18 hisforever never got this kind of message before, here is the screen shot? https://lut.im/9Op6SaDXUf/xGWuL5x1dU3VdoO3.png 14:19 Calinou hisforever, get up-to-date Minetest from a PPA or build from source. 14:19 Calinou we don't support 0.4.9 anymore 14:19 hisforever ok thanks 14:19 Calinou https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds/+packages 14:43 sea`` Can a minetest mod add a new type of brick? 14:44 Calinou sea``, yes, that's very easy 14:45 sea`` Oh good. I wanna figure out how to add 3 new bricks so that I can dig a big hole 14:46 Calinou sea``, http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/ 15:00 sea`` Aw, I'm not allowed to pester other people to make it for me 15:01 sea`` I'll build my hole-digger-o-matic myself, then, and use it to build a mountain 15:04 Krock :D 15:05 Krock But how will you build a mountain with a hole-digger-o-matic? 15:17 sea`` I gots me 3 blocks, a center, a radius marker, and a destination. You put the center down, then the radius marker some distance away, and when the destination block is placed, all blocks within distance(center,radius-marker) distance of the center are swapped with the corresponding block around the destination marker. It swaps two ball regions 15:18 sea`` So if I dig a deep hole and drop the center block, then run faaaar away and place the radius block, then run faaaar away and drop the destination block, I'll have a big sphere of earth suddenly plopped into place. Spherical mountain! 15:25 knobo1 What's new in latest minetest 15:25 knobo1 ? 15:28 Krock !dev changelog 15:28 MinetestBot No such page. 15:29 Krock !wiki changelog 15:29 MinetestBot No such page. 15:29 Obani lawl 15:29 VanessaE !g minetest dev changelog 15:29 MinetestBot VanessaE: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 15:29 Krock http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 15:29 Krock NUUH 15:29 VanessaE ninja'd :) 15:29 Krock always those ninjas... 15:29 CWz VanessaE, hello 15:29 VanessaE hi 15:30 CWz NinjaSandwitch 15:32 Obani What do you have against ninjas ? 15:32 Krock High network delays 15:32 Krock and fast fingers 15:43 knobo1 thanks 15:50 JohnnyComeL8ly ¡Holla! 15:52 JohnnyComeL8ly [off] I wish Thunderbird had unicode character insertion [Ctrl + Shift + U] 15:52 VanessaE [off] try shift-ctrl {unicode string} 15:53 VanessaE [off] ctrl-shift-ua --> U+000a (newline) 15:53 VanessaE [o]ff oh hell, I read that as ctrl-alt before :P 15:55 Krock [off] Charmap for the win 15:55 Krock [off] And only for Win, IIRC 15:55 JohnnyComeL8ly [off] Krock: I do use that, but I'd rather not have to for the ones that I know. 15:56 JohnnyComeL8ly [off] I have one in Xubuntu.... ;-) 15:56 Krock [off] JohnnyComeL8ly, if you don't need the unicode characters much, there shouldn't a problem by using an external aplpication 15:57 Krock [off] +be, *application 15:57 JohnnyComeL8ly [off] Krock: You're right, but I was thinking that it would be built in, like in Firefox. 15:58 VanessaE [off] also try binding and using the Xorg compose key. compose, m, u --> µ for example. I use my keyboard's "menu" key for the purpose. 16:30 hoodedice dot 16:31 sea`` goose 16:31 tim_flatus jellybeans 16:31 hoodedice ewww android 16:31 hoodedice fun fact: Jordach converted me to windowsphonemasterrace 16:32 hoodedice so I got a new shiny Lumia 640 XL 16:33 tim_flatus I'm getting lighting anomalies. I'm hoping this has something to do with my version of MT being compiled against an older version of irrlicht than the one I have installed. 16:34 hoodedice is everything red? 16:35 tim_flatus no 16:35 hoodedice describe the afore mentioned "lighting anomalies", please 16:35 hoodedice I would love it if you could supply a screenshot as well 16:35 tim_flatus It happens around moretrees spawns, particularly ppines and jungltrees AFAICT 16:36 tim_flatus screenshot should suffice. One moment. 16:37 who_wants_some dark shadow below moretrees? *cough* 16:37 hoodedice okay, that is out of my league then... But post the screenshot here and someone else might be able to help you out 16:38 Jordach tim_flatus, probably treegen not performing a light update once built 16:40 hoodedice hmm, if the trees are genned after the mapgen, then it could be the worldedit-style lighting anomaly 16:40 tim_flatus http://imgur.com/q9cC5D0 16:40 Jordach tim_flatus, grow a tree 16:40 tim_flatus Yes that ^ 16:40 Jordach (that should restart the lighting in that area) 16:40 hoodedice I think this can be fixed by having a lightupdate script thing in mods that deal with mod genning thing 16:41 hoodedice eeeeyup, if you dig around, or place a block and remove it, it should fix some parts of the lighting 16:41 hoodedice but do try growing a tree 16:41 tim_flatus There are several problems with just growing a tree - lack of light being one. 16:41 hoodedice I think if you plant a seed it should update that chunk 16:41 hoodedice which will relight the area 16:42 hoodedice do try 16:42 tim_flatus It doesn't 16:42 tim_flatus I have 16:42 hoodedice then this bug needs to be reported to whoever is moretrees' author 16:42 tim_flatus VanessaE knows about this already 16:42 VanessaE that would be me.. 16:43 VanessaE the lighting issues are not moretrees though 16:43 VanessaE the engine handles light kinda badly in some cases. 16:43 VanessaE all moretrees does is call spawn_tree(). the engine handles the rest. 16:44 tim_flatus I have fixed this kind of thing by replacing air nodes with worldedit, 16:46 tim_flatus Is it something to do with the tree models crossing chunk boundaries? 16:46 VanessaE yes 16:46 tim_flatus Anyway I won't worry about either my graphics card or Irrlicht versions right now if that is the case. 16:46 VanessaE sometimes the engine doesn't emerge enough mapblocks to hold the tree model, or emerges them in the wrong order, something like that 16:47 tim_flatus OK thanks VanessaE 16:47 VanessaE hmmmm can explain it better. 16:47 hoodedice !next 16:47 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 16:48 hoodedice sfan5, can you make a !sorrynext, that makes MinetestBot say "Sorry we couldn't help you. Next!" 17:00 rubenwardy hoodedice, enjoy having no apps! 17:01 hoodedice rubenwardy, I have what I need =D 17:01 hoodedice reddit, third party steam, skype and whatsapp. 17:01 hoodedice email and most of the other stuff is native, and well built 17:02 VanessaE what, no IHeartRadio? 17:10 tim_flatus This seems to be what I'm looking for: https://github.com/Gael-de-Sailly/mapfix 17:15 hoodedice I don't listen to much musics 17:15 hoodedice but I use mp3s anyway 17:16 VanessaE we normally do as well (in the car for example), but the IHR app is rather convenient at times. 17:19 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Load sound from memory 13395ef21 http://git.io/v4mIh (152015-11-14T18:17:32+01:00) 17:43 TheWild GL related: I have cube built out of triangles using one VBO for vertices position and one VBO for triangles. Do I really need another VBO to paint it with single color? 17:48 JohnnyComeL8ly I don't like Android the best, but it is better than the other mainstream alternatives. The best, imo, is a "regular" GNU/Linux desktop with tablet friendly UI, like GNOME 3. 17:48 JohnnyComeL8ly Not, Unity.... 17:52 est31 Interesting, there are actually people who like GNOME 3. 17:52 est31 well, thats what diversity is about 17:54 Out`Of`Control is lott server down? 17:56 * who_wants_some likes win2000 classic theme 17:57 JohnnyComeL8ly who_wants_some, is serious? 17:57 who_wants_some i'm serious 17:57 who_wants_some it is simple, clean and easy to use 17:58 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm most interested in a stable UI, so if I can't get fancy and stable I'll drop to stable and plain. 17:58 who_wants_some forget about stable ui 17:58 who_wants_some linux got that problem, and windows too 17:58 who_wants_some and mac os too 17:58 who_wants_some too much changes for sake of changes 17:58 JohnnyComeL8ly who_wants_some, yeah, but some are worse than others. 17:59 who_wants_some win2000 is last business-like theme, next ones went into shiny ass department 18:00 JohnnyComeL8ly est31, I thought I wouldn't like GNOME 3 because everyone was blubbering about it, but I like the UI overall. Plus the fact that they are moving to Wayland is an attractor. 18:00 who_wants_some i don't like some aspects of G3 18:01 who_wants_some no taskbar, no minimize button, that is BS9000 18:01 JohnnyComeL8ly who_wants_some, "shiny ass"...? wut on earth.... 18:01 est31 JohnnyComeL8ly, everybody is moving to wayland 18:01 who_wants_some shiny, glassy, greeny, flaty, whatever 18:01 JohnnyComeL8ly There is no taskbar, but you can place minimize buttons, just is in the settings. 18:01 est31 JohnnyComeL8ly, even X devs 18:02 who_wants_some what I don't like is the move to FLAT land, everything is flat, buttons, text, controls, i mean wtf? 18:02 JohnnyComeL8ly Well, Unity/Ubuntu isn't afaik. 18:02 JohnnyComeL8ly who_wants_some, I think it looks better than win2000. 18:03 who_wants_some there is no reason to hide minimize/maximize... why on Earth? 18:03 JohnnyComeL8ly I don't like how Win8 did "flat" but it doesn't look the worst. 18:03 JohnnyComeL8ly who_wants_some, you didn't spend much time using it, did you? 18:04 who_wants_some G3? 18:04 who_wants_some i've added everything back, as usual 18:05 who_wants_some wth is wrong with those people, they hide necessary things and users are forced to hack everything via obscure tweak tools 18:05 who_wants_some i don't want gnome tweak tool %) 18:06 who_wants_some this minimize/maximize buttons should be in settings 18:06 who_wants_some whatever 18:06 who_wants_some gnome people are strange, like mac os people 18:07 who_wants_some maybe they are same one 18:07 who_wants_some think different (c) 18:09 who_wants_some at least linux people have all kinds of box, wm, xfce, lqxt, lxde 18:09 who_wants_some also it feels like gnomers take GTK as hostage 18:09 who_wants_some and want to sink with it deeper 18:10 Calinou Qt master race 18:10 Calinou flat design is great, who_wants_some 18:10 Calinou it compresses better (eg. screenshot), is faster to render, is easier to code… 18:10 who_wants_some remember systray icon support removal? wtf was that!? 18:10 Calinou it's not necessarily easier to make though 18:11 who_wants_some why on earth they remove systray support in gtk? it is like they are shooting in their own balls 18:13 who_wants_some latest news make me depressive, w10 bs, spying, telemetry, encryption, vulnerabilites everywhere, mt is slow, plasma is not stable, gnome is adding features 18:15 JohnnyComeL8ly who_wants_some, I don't want some of that... bad news. 18:19 JohnnyComeL8ly VanessaE, I couldn't get the Ctrl + Shift + U to work... I think it depends on the APP. 18:49 hisforever Where can I find a mineters download for ubuntu? 18:50 Gael-de-Sailly minetest is downloaded from apt 18:50 Calinou hisforever, https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds 18:50 Calinou follow the instructions on "Adding this PPA to your system" 18:50 hisforever tjanks 18:50 Gael-de-Sailly why daily builds ? 18:50 Calinou they're more recent :) 18:50 Gael-de-Sailly some people want stable releases only 18:51 Calinou hisforever, if you want only stable releases, go there: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable 18:51 Gael-de-Sailly so hisforever, you have the choice :) 19:00 hisforever Ok I found the file to copy how do I compile it? please? 19:02 hisforever I'm not a programer a newbee to this kind of stuff 19:08 JohnnyComeL8ly hisforever, You have a .deb file, correct? 19:09 Calinou don't download .deb directly, hisforever 19:09 Calinou add the APT repository as described 19:10 JohnnyComeL8ly Calinou, you can, but you won't get updates. 19:10 Calinou there's no real dependency management with plain dpkg 19:11 JohnnyComeL8ly You can install with Ubuntu Software Center. 19:11 Calinou the version in official Ubuntu repositories is out of date 19:11 Calinou especially on Ubuntu LTS 19:11 JohnnyComeL8ly *You can use USC to install local .deb files that you downloaded. 19:12 Calinou also USC is slow as hell :) 19:18 fireglow !seen hybriddog 19:18 MinetestBot fireglow: Sorry, I haven't seen hybriddog around. 19:18 hisforever the download software center has the old version of 2.1 grrrrr 19:18 JohnnyComeL8ly Calinou, I know. ;-P 19:21 rubenwardy How would I identify entities in a spatial partition for the purpose of synchronising them across server/client? 19:22 rubenwardy If I assigned a unique id to each, then I'd need to have some hash map to look them up from by id 19:22 rubenwardy alternatively the id could be based on MapBlocks, in which case the id may change a lot - could cause bugs if the packet is dropped 19:23 rubenwardy this is OT, btw 19:23 rubenwardy I think I'll use unique ids and a std::map, and worry about optimisation later 19:24 Calinou use reliable UDP implementation, or TCP 19:24 Calinou (eg. enet) 19:24 rubenwardy ew enet 19:25 rubenwardy I'm currently using raw UDP sockets 19:25 rubenwardy I tried to setup enet, but I couldn't work it out. I found raw UDP a lot easier 19:25 est31 Calinou, enet is an example of a non reliable UDP implememtation as it seems 19:26 Calinou rubenwardy, raw TCP might be easier 19:26 rubenwardy No 19:26 est31 I mean non reliable in the sense of "dont use it", not in the sense of "properties of the protocol" 19:26 rubenwardy TCP doesn't send immediately 19:26 Calinou est31, yes, it lacks IPv6 support 19:26 rubenwardy it can have up to 2 seconds of buffer 19:26 Calinou but lots of people seem to say it's good 19:26 rubenwardy !g TCP for gamine 19:26 MinetestBot rubenwardy: https://1024monkeys.wordpress.com/2014/04/01/game-servers-udp-vs-tcp/ 19:27 Calinou "gamine" means "child" here :P 19:28 rubenwardy the packets could give a clue of the partition its in. 19:29 rubenwardy For example, Entity 0x13040505 in partition (123,321,0) 19:29 gravgun TCP sorta sucks for gaming 19:29 gravgun SCTP masterrace! 19:29 rubenwardy TCP is ok for chess/turn based 19:29 rubenwardy !g SCTP 19:29 MinetestBot rubenwardy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stream_Control_Transmission_Protocol 19:29 est31 gravgun, there is no general "tcp sucks" or "tcp is great" for gaming 19:30 gravgun >"sorta" 19:30 est31 well it sorta doesnt suck as well 19:30 gravgun Depends on the game 19:30 gravgun sure for turn-based games it's perfect 19:31 gravgun for more real-time applications it's less suited 20:22 DutchGamer gawd forgot my password on Minetest -_- 20:22 est31 DutchGamer, minetest passwords are per-server 20:22 est31 so contact the server owner to reset it 20:23 DutchGamer its on a VanessaE server and yes know haha its per-server 20:25 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm glad it is so.... 20:25 DutchGamer so Vanessa!! help me xD 20:28 TheWild I forgot password once, but now I do not remember which server it was. 20:28 DutchGamer damn that s*cks 20:30 Krock DutchGamer, you're allowed to write the full word here 20:30 DutchGamer since when thats allowed? xD 20:30 Krock since sucks. 20:30 DutchGamer ah xD okay that sucks xD 20:30 Krock no, it doesn't suck, it's fucking genous. 20:31 Krock +i 20:31 DutchGamer nah it sucks.... lot of little kids gonna insult than xD 20:31 Krock Oh, do you worry about getting banned for being a kid who insults people? 20:33 DutchGamer no xD 20:33 est31 there is inchra #minetest where you get into problems if you say "fucking great" 20:33 DutchGamer im not a kid 20:33 est31 and there is freenode #minetest where you can say all this stuff 20:33 DutchGamer and i am only banned 1 time xD 20:33 DutchGamer in a few year playing time ;) 20:33 Krock est31, and on rizon #agario you're kicked for saying "cyao" or "skip" (two times) 20:34 Krock heheh, pranked some people there by calling myself "hola", so players who said the nickname got kicked 20:35 est31 whats bad about hola 20:35 est31 it means hello, no? 20:35 Krock DutchGamer, there will be a reward after 1337 bans 20:36 Krock est31, yes. This way they try to filter non-english speakers out 20:37 who_wants_some huston, we have a problem -> https://i.imgur.com/zXBQSJr.png 20:38 Krock slow down a bit and move slowly away 20:38 Krock btw, why is there no Minetest icon on top left? 20:41 Calinou gravgun, fun fact: Cube 1 used TCP, and it was very slow. This is what motivated eihrul to write ENet 20:42 gravgun And that is why I use ENet in my game 20:47 Calinou but enet lacks IPv6 support :( 20:47 Calinou a fork of it supports it (maintained by Freeminer developers), but it's not really released as a standalone fork 20:48 est31 why you use plural Calinou? 20:48 est31 hehe :) 20:48 Krock lol 20:52 Calinou est31, heh 21:59 Calinou I own 101 repositories on GitHub, including forks 22:00 rubenwardy I own 51, not including forks. IIRC 22:01 est31 32 for est31 22:06 VanessaE if I counted right, 83 here (including forks, probably a few outdated repos in there too) 22:50 Out`Of`Control 4 here 23:42 basil60 hi I want flatten a large patch of ground in my Minetest sandbox, to play around with mesecon logic blocks. I installed a flatgen mod; does anyone know how I might use it? 23:43 who_wants_some well, create world, enable flatgen in world settings, ???, play! 23:46 est31 you'll need latest minetest for it though basil60 23:51 basil60 I have 0.4.13 - new enough??? 23:53 est31 basil60, unfortunately not, you'd need a development version 23:54 basil60 Ok..thanks. I've used Minecraft on RaspPI, where I could code my way to making flat ground. Can I do that in Minetest? 23:56 est31 basil60, yes! 23:56 est31 you can do a flat lua mapgen 23:56 est31 and there should be a mod 23:57 basil60 thanks..I'll go have a look and play