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01:09 JohnnyComeL8ly est31, is your ncurses repo "current?"
01:12 est31 not totally
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01:25 JohnnyComeL8ly est31: how difficult would it be to DIY it?
01:30 est31 ?
01:31 est31 add the official minetest repo as remote, e.g. named "upstream"
01:31 est31 then do git rebase upstream/master
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02:40 JohnnyComeL8ly est31: I meant, about the ncurses that you added, how difficult would it be to "insert" it into a "fresh" master clone?
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02:46 est31 yea thats rebase
02:46 est31 better go to #git they are better at explaining
03:03 fling How to pregenerate world?
03:04 JohnnyComeL8ly I think there is a mod for that....
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05:22 fling What is the recordsize for leveldb?
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06:41 fling What is the best way for converting minecraft world to minetest?
06:41 fling Should I save it as a huge schematic somehow?
07:00 fling I'm getting a lot of these when running "/emergeblocks" -> 2015-11-06 13:58:39: WARNING[Emerge-0]: Map::getNodeMetadata(): Block not found
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07:22 TheWild fling: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6007, not sure whether it is buggy or what. Last comments were not long ago, so project doesn't seem obsolete.
07:23 fling TheWild: thanks.
07:24 fling TheWild: I would probably like to put multiple minecraft worlds/parts inso a single minetest world :>
07:33 TheWild It was odd to me that there were no much games with maps built out of 3D cubes which existed before Minecraft, but this is even more strange:
07:33 TheWild Karatsuba multiplication. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karatsuba_algorithm
07:33 TheWild It was "discovered" by Anatolii Alexeevitch Karatsuba in 1960 and published in 1962.
07:33 TheWild Wut da...? How it could not be known in ancient times?
07:43 fling TheWild: thanks, this looks really useful -> https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=9&t=13116
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07:52 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Add server side ncurses terminal 5e507c9 http://git.io/v8qUH (2015-11-06T08:51:14+01:00)
07:53 hmmmm well I guess est is on
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08:35 fling est31: thanks.
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08:36 est31 yea hmmmm I coded instead wasting my time on irc like all the other days :)
08:36 est31 and now I add encryption
08:37 hmmmm cool
08:37 * est31 off
08:37 hmmmm I should probably take a page from him..
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09:12 fling How to limit the world generation? Is there a border mod or something/
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09:28 fling What is leveldb recordsize?
09:41 fling Does not minetest server depend on any x11 things anymore?
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10:00 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Nachos Day! 😃
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10:07 Megaf Nachos day? There is a nachos day?
10:07 Megaf Happy nachos day James,
10:08 Megaf JamesTait: ^
10:09 Megaf fling: no graphical deps at all for the server, and it is like so for long.
10:10 fling great!
10:10 fling JamesTait: nachos? :P
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10:27 JamesTait Megaf, it's on the internet, it must be true. ☺   But in case it's not, I think I'm going to indulge before I find out about the lie. 😉
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11:14 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Conf.example, settingtypes: Improve mgfractal documentation 2ec1eee http://git.io/v8mnq (2015-11-06T11:12:07Z)
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13:50 fling How to enable new snow?
13:50 fling I can't find it in the settings.
13:52 fling ohh it is new style water…
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15:37 Telesight Hello all, what can be the value of: max_forceloaded_blocks = 16 if you have up to date hardware?
15:43 VanessaE 500 to 1000 probably
15:44 VanessaE depends on the mods you run (i.e. what will be actively running in those force-loaded blocks)
15:44 VanessaE my servers are set to 300, the underlying hardware while fast, isn't what I'd call "up to date".
15:45 Telesight Ok thank, clearly  a bit higher value ;-)
15:48 Telesight The same question but then for: max_objects_per_block = 49   ?
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15:51 VanessaE mine is set to 500
15:51 VanessaE the theoretical max is 65535 but you don't want to go that high,.
15:51 VanessaE your computer will choke :)
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15:54 Telesight I do have a feeling that the values in the conf are very conservative ....
15:55 Telesight the example ones I mean ...
15:55 VanessaE they are.
15:55 VanessaE I don't remember why those particular defaults were chosen though
15:56 Telesight Well then good that I ask, otherwise I let something run with sand in between ...
15:59 Telesight By the way; I set: emergequeue_limit_diskonly = blank , is it better to give it a value  ?
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16:02 VanessaE I don't have that one set to anything
16:02 VanessaE max_block_send_distance = 6
16:02 VanessaE max_simultaneous_block_sends_per_client = 10
16:02 VanessaE max_simultaneous_block_sends_server_total = 10000
16:02 VanessaE are the only ones I set
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16:03 VanessaE (emergequeue is only very vaguely related)
16:03 VanessaE gotta run
16:03 VanessaE bbl
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16:47 GunshipPenguin Is there a way to get minetest.find_nodes_in_area_under_air to return the positions of all nodes under air rather than just the nodes or groups specified with the nodenames argument?
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17:27 Krock Hello Minetesters
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17:39 Sokomine hi krock
17:39 Krock :)
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18:07 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello, y'all!
18:08 anotherPC why i am here?
18:10 Krock anotherPC, because you want to check out Minetest, all its mods and this amazing community?
18:11 anotherPC oh maybe :]
18:11 anotherPC Krock: i do ask this question everytime when i join here, don't forget it ;)
18:12 Krock anotherPC, I'll try to answer them everytime I can :P
18:12 anotherPC thanks :D
18:12 Krock !next
18:12 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
18:16 Krock Can't someone do something against Hybrid Dog? He destroys that wonderful Minetesty forum style
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18:35 Out`Of`Control anotherPC:  maybe you are lost? :D
18:36 anotherPC oh no
18:37 Krock anotherPC, you are still chatting here, so you aren't lost yet. Please wait a moment, I'll call the police
18:38 anotherPC :`(
18:38 Krock They will put you into a deep black prison and will throw the keys away
18:38 Krock At this moment you're really lost.
18:39 anotherPC *yawn*
18:40 anotherPC why u use [off] ?
18:40 JohnnyComeL8ly Because it is off topic.
18:42 anotherPC :]
18:43 anotherPC logs are everywhere
18:46 Krock tree logs
18:46 JohnnyComeL8ly I like the Oak ones from Moretrees.
18:47 Krock anotherPC, the logging bot does not know the inverting logic
18:48 anotherPC Krock: [off] ok  :}
18:50 anotherPC Krock: don't worry, your children will read your log chat in future :}
18:52 Krock anotherPC, there's no chat in future anymore
18:53 JohnnyComeL8ly What, everything will be VoIP?
18:53 JohnnyComeL8ly That wouldn't work.
18:56 Krock JohnnyComeL8ly, I meant that there will be a 3rd world war. After that's done we will need a cudgel
18:56 Krock And smoe flints to make fire
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19:03 JohnnyComeL8ly Krock: I agree about there being another war... The Bible says it will happen.
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19:27 Megaf 0
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19:46 Megaf well, you will be kicked
19:46 Megaf was kicked by ShadowBot: Message repetition flood detected.
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19:46 Megaf Out`Of`Control: see?
19:47 Out`Of`Control Megaf:  i see
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19:53 anotherPC :]
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20:13 Sokomine quick question: can underwater structures be spawned by mapgen? or is it restricted to above ground?
20:13 Emperor_Genshin Sokomine, I think it's possible
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20:18 Krock Sokomine, I'm not sure if it will replace the water..
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20:47 reber hi all
20:47 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello, reber.
20:48 reber i'm setting up a server xorg-less
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20:49 reber how to enter the console in text mode ?
20:49 JohnnyComeL8ly Ctrl + Alt + F1
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20:50 JohnnyComeL8ly That works if you are at login screen or in the desktop.
20:50 reber no not that
20:51 VanessaE reber: minetest doesn't yet have a text console
20:51 VanessaE there's a pull request for it but it has not yet been merged.
20:51 reber VanessaE, ouch ...
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20:51 VanessaE until then, use IRC + IRC commands mods
20:51 JohnnyComeL8ly Try building est31's ncurses.
20:52 JohnnyComeL8ly You surely know how to compile, right?
20:52 JohnnyComeL8ly reber: ^^^
20:52 reber VanessaE, is there a way to grant privileges of a user in a config text file ?
20:53 kahrl_ the ncurses console was merged today
20:53 VanessaE kahrl_: it was?  I thought it still had some issues to work out?
20:53 kahrl_ he worked them out AFAIK
20:53 VanessaE reber: you can set default privs in the config file
20:53 VanessaE kahrl_: oh good
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20:54 reber VanessaE, wich config file ?
20:54 VanessaE minetest.conf ?
20:54 JohnnyComeL8ly kahrl_, That is cool!  Thanks for the heads up.
20:54 VanessaE default_privs = fast,home,shout,nointeract  .....
20:55 kahrl_ hrmm, the ENABLE_CURSES option is not listed in README.txt, let me fix that
20:55 reber found : it's world.mt
20:56 VanessaE reber: you don't use that file to grant privs.
20:57 reber VanessaE, how to then ?
20:57 VanessaE use minetest.conf for default privs, and if you want you can edit worlds/your_world/auth.txt to add privs after the fact.
20:57 JohnnyComeL8ly kahrl_, did the issue with libncurses5-dev not being checked by cmake get fixed?
20:57 VanessaE default_privs = fast,home,shout,interact, ....  --> minetest.conf
20:58 kahrl_ JohnnyComeL8ly: I think so, but not sure (I don't have any debian-ish distro)
20:58 JohnnyComeL8ly What else is there? :-P
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20:58 kahrl_ :)
20:59 JohnnyComeL8ly I like it, anyways: don't feel an need to change.
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21:04 Krock ShadowBot: give JohnnyComeL8ly cookie
21:06 JohnnyComeL8ly Krock, is that a punishment? :-P
21:07 Krock JohnnyComeL8ly, ever seen someone slapping a guy with a cookie?
21:08 JohnnyComeL8ly Krock: No.
21:08 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm just thinking Tracking Cookie.
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21:09 Krock no, it's a tasty cookie
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21:11 rbduck i have one question using travelnet and areas
21:13 rbduck if i place unconfigured tnets into an area, do i have to add an open area, so that other players can configure them and add them to their own tnet????
21:14 rbduck i created a building with some tnets on VE-Building, directly next to spawn
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21:23 JohnnyComeL8ly VanessaE: ^^^ If you don't mind. ;-)
21:23 JohnnyComeL8ly He might show up again.
21:24 VanessaE the answer is yes..
21:24 JohnnyComeL8ly I'll tell him that... thanks! :-D
21:24 JohnnyComeL8ly I'll give credit to the source too. ;)
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22:06 MinetestBot [git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Document ENABLE_CURSES in README.txt 578649b http://git.io/v8G5d (2015-11-06T23:05:40+01:00)
22:11 Megaf enable_curses is on by default, isnt it?
22:12 kahrl_ Megaf: yes
22:16 JohnnyComeL8ly Cool!
22:16 JohnnyComeL8ly re: kahrl's statement)
22:18 JohnnyComeL8ly kahrl_, does the ncurses --terminal thing work when you have a single binary?
22:19 kahrl_ yes, I'm pretty sure
22:19 Out`Of`Control is there an option to make night lighter?
22:19 JohnnyComeL8ly Morning? ;-P
22:20 Out`Of`Control tweak contrast its too dark
22:20 Out`Of`Control ?
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22:22 JohnnyComeL8ly Idk, man.
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22:27 Out`Of`Control ok i found display_gamma = 1 worked
22:28 Fixer it is too bright in minetest caves btw, you can actually play without torches >_>
22:31 Fixer maybe i'm overblowing it :p but it is not complete darkness for sure, if I can increase gamma... it will probably brighten up a lot
22:32 JohnnyComeL8ly Well, Fixer up!
22:32 Fixer I'm not up, who is up? (c)
22:33 JohnnyComeL8ly Fix 'er up....
22:37 Fixer i will actually make a topic, not sure if a bug or whatever
22:46 JohnnyComeL8ly kahrl_, I checked: ncurses interface works with a unified binary.
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23:12 sabino brazilians?
23:13 JohnnyComeL8ly Don't know of any besides you and luizrpgluiz.... :-(
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23:17 sabino ok, I'm translating the wiki... I want to hear opinions
23:30 Megaf sabino: sure, just give us the link of the translated article, I will read it
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23:35 sabino I translated the first page, the link blocks - first section and tutorials for beginners
23:42 Megaf link?
23:46 sabino http://wiki.minetest.net/Main_Page/pt-br
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