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00:06 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959, sry, I was afk.
00:06 JohnnyComeL8ly Just do it without the > and see what comes of it, then copy that to a text file.
00:07 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: syntax error
00:08 JohnnyComeL8ly Hmm.
00:08 JohnnyComeL8ly Is minetestserver in that directory?
00:09 whtemple1959 minetestserver is in /usr/games
00:09 JohnnyComeL8ly What does the cmd [ ls -l ] do?
00:10 JohnnyComeL8ly From within /usr/games/
00:12 whtemple1959 jonnyComeL8ly: [ ls -l ] returns unary operator expected and [ls -l] returns command not found
00:13 whtemple1959 JohnnyComel8ly of course you could haave meant ls -l which returns privviledges and ownership of nimetestserver and minetestmapper
00:15 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: which is -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root for both files
00:15 JohnnyComeL8ly Yes, that is what I meant. I was trying to use the [] to make a textual distinction.
00:16 JohnnyComeL8ly Well, that could be your problem.
00:16 JohnnyComeL8ly try this:
00:16 whtemple1959 well the privs and ownership looks normal
00:17 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh, yeah, duh, I (somehow) mixed up what I saw.  (Thanks for the correction).
00:18 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959, try /usr/games/mintestserver --verbose
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00:25 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: it starts the game with a long list of completed tasks still will not print a report using the > symbol
00:25 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: I truly appreciate all your time, patience, and attempts and resolving this. as I stated eariler everything works fine when using regular minetest as a multiplayer so I believe I will remove the server and install regular minetest and hope xorg doesn't panic when it does not see a monitor and keyboard
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00:25 JohnnyComeL8ly Ok, but I don't think it will work.
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00:27 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959, It should be working... I just did it with minetestserver .
00:30 JohnnyComeL8ly ./minetestserver --terminal --worldname NameOfYourWorld > ~/mtdebug.txt
00:30 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh, boogers... don't put --terminal in yours.
00:31 whtemple1959 JohnnyComel8ly: I have a pentium, 4g of ram, debian 8, nfs server, openssh server, tightvncserver, xorg, and lxde-core nothing else to conflict. the minetestserver works and I can add mods. minetesteserver does not use VanessaE's textures and of course without the conf file my son cannot fly so I am at a loss
00:32 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: the games is in /usr/games everything elese is in /usr/share/games/minetest and of course there is stuff in /home/creator/.minetest
00:33 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959: try ls /home/creator/.minetest/
00:33 JohnnyComeL8ly I just thought about how there might be a log file there.
00:34 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: returns... debug.txt, minetest.conf, worlds
00:41 JohnnyComeL8ly nano debug.txt
00:41 JohnnyComeL8ly Do that.
00:41 JohnnyComeL8ly Sorry for the wait.
00:44 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: no faults no errors shows the server starting and the server stopping
00:44 JohnnyComeL8ly Clear the file of text and then do
00:45 JohnnyComeL8ly /usr/games/mintestserver --verbose
00:45 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959: ^^ :-)
00:46 whtemple1959 JohnnyComel8ly: just shows the game starting and stopping
00:46 JohnnyComeL8ly If you have a "world" already put  --worldname NameOfYourWorld    in the cmd too.
00:53 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: nothing inthe debug. I made an error in my typing and got the help menu there is a switch called trace that may write to a log let me try that
00:53 JohnnyComeL8ly Ok.
01:00 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959: Did you gain any traction?
01:00 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: nothing if there is a log I do not know where it went. no mention of it in the terminal screen. It is late and although I wish I could pound this rock forever you and I both have other things to do...so again thank you for your time, patience, and understanding. if someone managesto post a working solution to my forum post I will come back and let you know.
01:01 JohnnyComeL8ly What is your forum post?
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01:01 JohnnyComeL8ly You are welcome, btw. :-)
01:02 whtemple1959 JohnnyComel8ly: see you soon
01:15 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest_game: Default/mapgen: Tune biome points and biome depths 592ca34 http://git.io/vlQGZ (2015-11-04T01:13:46Z)
01:22 rubenwardy JohnnyComeL8ly, he's left now, but > won't work as the log goes to stderr not stdout
01:22 rubenwardy > only logs stdout
01:24 JohnnyComeL8ly Ok, I think I get what you're saying, but is --verbose going to give everything to stdout?
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02:12 JohnnyComeL8ly rubenwardy: Is --verbose going to give everything to stdout?
02:13 rubenwardy I very much doubt it
02:13 JohnnyComeL8ly stdout is what you see in the terminal, right?
02:13 rubenwardy no
02:14 rubenwardy you see both stdout and stderr in the terminal
02:14 JohnnyComeL8ly Ok.
02:14 JohnnyComeL8ly I get it now.
02:14 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/688556a​5d1910ead2cf06a87af6908110fa9d035/src/log.cpp#L88
02:14 rubenwardy goes to the same place as all the others, it seems
02:15 rubenwardy you can print stderr output to files
02:15 rubenwardy !g bash stderr to file
02:15 MinetestBot rubenwardy: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html
02:15 rubenwardy >&1
02:15 rubenwardy so   cmd   >&1   filepath
02:15 rubenwardy afaik
02:17 JohnnyComeL8ly (Not trying to put you down) Are you saying that you were wrong about stderr not being captured by >
02:17 JohnnyComeL8ly ?
02:17 rubenwardy no
02:17 rubenwardy > won't capture stderr output
02:17 rubenwardy you need to use a different type of pipe
02:17 JohnnyComeL8ly Does 2> do that?
02:17 rubenwardy the >&1 is the pipe to use
02:17 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh.
02:18 rubenwardy I think 2 is part of the grep
02:18 rubenwardy I'm not sure
02:18 rubenwardy no
02:19 rubenwardy 2> appears to only output stderr, and discards stdout
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02:20 JohnnyComeL8ly 3.5 of the howto says 2>&1 converts stderr to stdout
02:21 JohnnyComeL8ly This is interesting.
02:21 JohnnyComeL8ly Thanks, rubenwardy.
02:21 rubenwardy &>
02:21 rubenwardy yeah
02:21 rubenwardy That link was terrible
02:21 rubenwardy bad MinetestBox
02:21 rubenwardy ./bin/minetest --verbose &> log2.txt
02:22 JohnnyComeL8ly That's a bad howto?
02:22 rubenwardy oh, 3.6 was the right one
02:26 rubenwardy Just finished my essay, realised that I've been in size 11pt all this time, and that size 12pt puts me one paragraph over the page limit :'(
02:27 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh, bummer.
02:28 rubenwardy I'm doing "How did the Military influence the development of programming languages?"
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02:37 JohnnyComeL8ly rubenwardy, that is interesting... I'm assuming they did substantially, or is it a prank with one word per page? :-P
02:38 rubenwardy It's a maximum limit, you can write less
02:38 rubenwardy but you won't get all the marsk
02:38 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh, is it to make things easier for whoever grades them?
02:38 rubenwardy yeah
02:39 rubenwardy The essay is 20% of the Origins of CS class
02:39 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm sure you used spellcheck, so that should be a problem.
02:39 rubenwardy it counts towards my first year grade
02:39 rubenwardy It doesn't disallow spellcheck
02:40 rubenwardy I'm doing a Computer Science degree, not an English degree :P
02:40 JohnnyComeL8ly :-D
02:41 JohnnyComeL8ly By, CS class you mean "classes" like id and class from CSS, right?
02:41 rubenwardy ?
02:41 rubenwardy no
02:41 rubenwardy class as in module of study
02:42 rubenwardy like Maths class
02:42 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh, so "Origins of ComputerScience class?"
02:42 rubenwardy yeah
02:43 rubenwardy anyway, better get my 5 hours of sleep left (y)
02:45 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Time: use locks again 8f03995 http://git.io/vlQ9g (2015-11-04T03:44:09+01:00)
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02:52 JohnnyComeL8ly https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3zZLcsZQQM
02:52 JohnnyComeL8ly !link
02:52 est31 !title
02:52 MinetestBot est31: The Most Beautiful Music Ever Composed 2/2 (Instrumental Ave Maria by Michal Lorenc) - YouTube
02:52 est31 you mean
02:52 est31 oh clicky baity
02:52 JohnnyComeL8ly I was just going to try that....
02:53 JohnnyComeL8ly I was just going to ask him how to download his fresh ncurses-terminal code.... (Arg)
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03:06 swift110-phone Hey
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03:30 JohnnyComeL8ly Guys, I need help.
03:33 JohnnyComeL8ly The newly compiled MT I just did has a lot of screen flickering... I tried to catch it with a screenshot, but I couldn't... as soon as I pressed Esc (the menu came up) and the flickering stopped.  If I press Esc to exit that menu, then the flickering starts up again.
03:41 JohnnyComeL8ly Wait, I got one....
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04:04 JohnnyComeL8ly https://imgur.com/3OJPTp9
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04:10 JohnnyComeL8ly What does "INFO[Main]: Audio: Vorbis extension NOT present" mean?
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04:34 Hijiri the examples I've seen of groups had the values be numbers, but I could put things like functions or tables in there too, right?
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05:25 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mgfractal: Add documentation to conf.example and settingtypes 64049cf http://git.io/vl7Kv (2015-11-04T05:22:55Z)
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06:13 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Fix time progressing too fast c75ab52 http://git.io/vl7Sx (2015-11-04T07:12:02+01:00)
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06:24 swift110-phone Hdy
06:24 swift110-phone Hey
06:26 Hijiri hi
06:28 swift110-phone How r u
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06:40 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm dandy... but tired.  C'y'all l8r!
06:41 basil60 Hi just tried logging into my remote Minetest server. It was down - when I restarted it, there were a whole bunch of errors. I droped them in Pastebin - http://pastebin.com/9UQBd4fL - if anyone has time to look please?
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06:45 JohnnyComeL8ly basil60, it appears you have thyme against you.
06:46 basil60 JohnnyComeL8ly - you've lost me?
06:46 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm joking... but it looks like a file was messed up.
06:46 JohnnyComeL8ly open env_meta.txt in your world folder.
06:47 basil60 JohnnyComeL8ly yep
06:47 JohnnyComeL8ly You opened it?
06:47 basil60 going there
06:48 JohnnyComeL8ly k
06:48 basil60 yep
06:48 JohnnyComeL8ly Is it blank?
06:48 basil60 yep
06:48 JohnnyComeL8ly Error is found
06:49 basil60 how do I rebuild the file?
06:49 JohnnyComeL8ly How many hours has your server been up?
06:49 basil60 not long..it's only a sandbox...nothing really important
06:49 JohnnyComeL8ly game_time = 100
06:50 JohnnyComeL8ly time_of_day = 09000
06:50 JohnnyComeL8ly EnvArgsEnd
06:50 JohnnyComeL8ly That is how a working one should look.
06:51 basil60 3 lines and save?
06:51 JohnnyComeL8ly The first variable is in seconds... afaIk.  Yes, save and restart your server.
06:52 basil60 I'll give it a whirl
06:52 JohnnyComeL8ly Idk what causes that to happen, but I've had to do this a couple of times.
06:53 basil60 your a lifesaver..thanks
06:54 JohnnyComeL8ly You are welcome!
06:55 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm tired.  C'y'all l8r!
06:55 basil60 I'll document your fix for next time
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10:02 Out`Of`Control Hi, how disable join/leave messages?
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10:14 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy Stress Awareness Day! 😃
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10:39 fling Is there a mod like dynmap for mc?
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12:05 kaeza o/
12:08 Calinou Out`Of`Control, in Minetest? they are hardcoded :(
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12:12 kaeza that's one part that could be implemented in Lua instead of being hardcoded...
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12:40 Out`Of`Control Calinou:  i see
12:41 Out`Of`Control at last i update from 0.4.10-dev to 0.4.13-dev
12:42 Issue2035 Liberty Land?
12:42 Issue2035 niice
12:42 Issue2035 Love that server too, glad people picked it up
12:42 Issue2035 have a small house there, people got very nice builds there
12:44 Issue2035 i see most of the servers with players are already on 0.4.13
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12:56 Out`Of`Control Issue2035:  yeah
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14:36 alket hi, how to open Shared Locked Door
14:36 alket owned by me
14:37 Obani Shared locked door ?
14:37 Obani What mod is that ?
14:37 alket idk
14:37 Obani On what server ?
14:38 alket VanessaE Dram Builder Survival
14:38 Obani I send you an agent :p
14:38 Obani (me)
14:40 alket what do you mean ?
14:40 Obani alket, let me upload the server medias
14:40 Obani I'm coming in-game
14:41 Megaf Calinou: Hi there
14:42 Megaf [22:27:55] <Megaf_> so, gNewSense 3 from years ago runnign GNOME uses the very same amount of RAM that Debian Sid using MATE uses today
14:42 Megaf [22:28:04] <Megaf_> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Megaf​/98157d55502211cd4f75/raw/848e10c7bb36e9​42ed75c5e75a9edba1163e1ec9/gistfile1.txt
14:42 Megaf [22:28:09] <Megaf_> https://gist.githubusercontent.com/Megaf​/9907f2121e37e71e3eaa/raw/fcd055a8c71d64​253e94361772255de020fa4894/gistfile1.txt
14:42 Megaf Calinou: ^
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14:49 alket thanks Obani
14:49 Obani np :)
14:49 Obani alket, highlight me if you have another problem ;)
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15:03 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello, everyone who looks at the new messages. ;-)
15:03 Megaf Hey JohnnyComeL8ly
15:03 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello, you must be one of those people!
15:04 JohnnyComeL8ly *Hello, Megaf ...
15:04 Megaf :P
15:04 Megaf usually I am not
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15:20 alket can you take an amount of item from a player ?
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15:21 alket something like opposite of /give
15:23 Teckla /take
15:23 Teckla Oh, sorry, that's not an answer  :)
15:24 Teckla Just suggesting that /take would be cool heh
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15:25 rom1504 negative item count in /give ? :p
15:29 kaeza /ban ?
15:29 kaeza <_<
15:30 kaeza or `rm players/$PLAYER`
15:31 swift110 hey all
15:33 PilzAdam alket, /help pulverize
15:34 PilzAdam hmm... seems it doesn't work for other players
15:35 alket yeah :s
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15:35 alket something like /take default:cobbelstone 10
15:38 JohnnyComeL8ly Well, how about you edit their inventory?
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15:41 alket JohnnyComeL8ly: can that be done while player is playing ?
15:41 JohnnyComeL8ly alket, try looking at the player file... you'll see how much they have in their inventory.
15:41 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm thinking not.
15:42 JohnnyComeL8ly It has never worked to edit the auth.txt for fly,fast in singleplayer.  (I've since learned about /grant singleplayer fast,fly ).
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15:43 alket JohnnyComeL8ly: yeah that would have been much easier
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15:44 JohnnyComeL8ly est31: how do I git your ncurses minetest?
15:45 JohnnyComeL8ly alket: make your own mod.
15:45 est31 JohnnyComeL8ly, https://github.com/est31/minete​st/archive/ncurses-console.zip
15:45 alket JohnnyComeL8ly: I don't think thats possible unless the "core" supports it
15:45 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm not sure how useful it would be on a "good" server, but you probably have a use for it.
15:46 JohnnyComeL8ly est31: I know I can get the zip, but I was wanting to do git pull to update it.
15:46 rubenwardy http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_mod​ding_book/chapters/itemstacks.html
15:46 JohnnyComeL8ly alket: ^^
15:46 alket JohnnyComeL8ly: I made a web application for minetest, where you can buy/sell items, buy areas etc. but I can't make it easy so it can take the coins from player :)
15:47 rubenwardy and https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2509
15:47 alket thanks rubenwardy
15:48 rubenwardy eventually I'll write an inventory chapter too
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16:03 rubenwardy Following open.gl
16:03 rubenwardy https://open.gl/
16:03 rubenwardy Calinou XD
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16:09 JohnnyComeL8ly est31: I figured out how do do it with git!
16:09 JohnnyComeL8ly git clone -b ncurses-console https://github.com/est31/minetest.git
16:10 JohnnyComeL8ly I checked src/CMakeLists.txt for "ncurses" and it was there, so I know I got the right code.
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16:11 rubenwardy Failed to Create OpenGL Context
16:11 rubenwardy :'(
16:11 rubenwardy Guess I need something newer than OpenGL
16:11 rubenwardy 2.1
16:11 JohnnyComeL8ly lol Yeah, that might help.
16:12 JohnnyComeL8ly Are you using Intel GMA 4500 ?
16:13 rubenwardy integrated graphics
16:13 rubenwardy by Intel
16:13 JohnnyComeL8ly Yeah.
16:14 rubenwardy I'll just use Irrlicht
16:14 rubenwardy I want to experiment with shaders
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16:14 JohnnyComeL8ly You're not the one who broke shaders for GMA 4500 are you?
16:14 JohnnyComeL8ly In MT that is.
16:16 rubenwardy No?
16:16 rubenwardy I've never touched Minetest's shaders
16:16 JohnnyComeL8ly My sibs used to be able to play that way on our dad's PC, but now, with 0.4.13 we can't use shaders and the tools look rather "clumsy" (chunky).
16:16 rubenwardy that'll be RealBadAngel
16:16 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh.
16:16 rubenwardy This is offtopic
16:16 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm not in -dev.
16:22 Issue2035 \o\
16:23 rubenwardy Offtopic, as in I'm offtopic
16:23 rubenwardy JohnnyComeL8ly
16:23 Issue2035 so much people with crappy graphics
16:24 rubenwardy I'm practising with shaders not at all related to MT
16:24 rubenwardy Issue2035, I haven't got around to building a computer yet
16:24 rubenwardy also, *so many
16:25 Issue2035 is not you can choose components and shop guy will build it for a small fee? It is pretty common
16:26 JohnnyComeL8ly The *Issue is that it costs money.... ;-P
16:27 JohnnyComeL8ly Part of the fun is doing it yourself.
16:28 JohnnyComeL8ly I do agree that many people have crappy graphics chips, but that is just the way it is.
16:29 JohnnyComeL8ly Maybe there should be a "module" or something where you can swap the newer shaders for the old ones that work properly.  This way, one could have the best of both worlds.
16:29 Issue2035 it feels like MT has some kind of Pentium III with Windows 98SE + android 2.3 community
16:29 JohnnyComeL8ly LOL
16:29 JohnnyComeL8ly I don't think anybody runs that hardware for MT.
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16:31 rubenwardy lol
16:31 rubenwardy I have Pentium
16:31 JohnnyComeL8ly III ?
16:31 rubenwardy not sure about III
16:31 rubenwardy Almost certainly not
16:31 Issue2035 i've heared new words today: "performance monkeys", unlike "*ing" one's
16:32 JohnnyComeL8ly Yeah, thats wut I thought.
16:32 Issue2035 I have PIII machine with Win98SE, wonder if minetest will work on Riva TNT Vanta
16:32 JohnnyComeL8ly OH< no.
16:32 Issue2035 collects dust at work
16:32 Issue2035 was changed half a year ago
16:32 Issue2035 Win98SE lives on
16:32 JohnnyComeL8ly That is a Web server, not a PC.
16:33 JohnnyComeL8ly Put media in a folder and serve it up using GNU/Linux+Lighttpd.
16:34 JohnnyComeL8ly Gotta love that server software....
16:34 Issue2035 back in ~1999 my relative got PII-400Mhz with some kind of 3DFX videocard, that was super neat to play quake on it, Win 95OCR2 though
16:35 JohnnyComeL8ly Where do you live, that you just got a PIII machine retired?
16:35 Issue2035 Ukraine
16:35 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm thinking you must live in the past... ~2003
16:35 JohnnyComeL8ly Oh, ok.
16:35 Issue2035 well it was working nicely
16:35 Issue2035 why retire?
16:36 Issue2035 it needs MS Office, has printer
16:36 JohnnyComeL8ly You said it was changed.
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16:36 Issue2035 no internet for it, why pay money for new crap that you don't need?
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16:36 Issue2035 yes
16:36 Issue2035 there is another Celeron or Pentium machine with XP
16:37 Issue2035 instead of it
16:37 JohnnyComeL8ly Wait, weren't you the one just complaining about a community that runs Android 2.3?
16:38 Issue2035 I don't buy this consumerism crap about updating Windows (by paying money to MS, no less, people will not update even with pirate one)
16:38 Issue2035 nope
16:38 Issue2035 or yes
16:38 Issue2035 just few mins ago
16:39 Issue2035 there are lots of 2.3 phones
16:39 JohnnyComeL8ly I don't buy into that crap either... I use GNU/Linux.
16:39 JohnnyComeL8ly And I don't really like the Android platform as a whole.
16:39 Issue2035 another big pain in the ***, and manufacturers don't even want to update anything
16:39 JohnnyComeL8ly Yes, right?
16:39 JohnnyComeL8ly It is only about mullah.
16:39 Issue2035 btw, I have 2.3 phone and 4.4 tablet, no updates for me anymore
16:40 JohnnyComeL8ly Sorry.
16:40 JohnnyComeL8ly Which phone?
16:40 JohnnyComeL8ly I might find something for it... on XDA.
16:40 Issue2035 Samsung Gio blabla
16:40 Issue2035 don't
16:40 Issue2035 it works well
16:41 Issue2035 and I rarely use it for internet
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16:41 Issue2035 any android phone is piece of vulner*ble ***p, nobody updates them, they just want you to buy a new one, what a silly manufacturers
16:42 Issue2035 I feel like we need that damn nokias back
16:42 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: the txt file from your sugestion is too big for pastie I can break it up into section or paste it to a respnse to your forum email how would you like to take a look at it?
16:43 JohnnyComeL8ly Use paste.ubuntu.com
16:43 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959: ^^
16:44 JohnnyComeL8ly And put a that link in the forum thread too.
16:44 Issue2035 i've seen some tablet with custom Cyanogen, damn it was so slow, slow as 33Mhz PC i played on
16:44 Issue2035 turbo on of course
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16:45 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13102681/
16:46 Issue2035 there is P4 1.7 GHz (slow kind) + Radeon 7(5,2,0)00 available, can test MT there :}
16:46 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959: this is refreshing... ;-)
16:47 Issue2035 you know what I missing in old PC? White colour, and HDD cracking, that was also sweat sound
16:47 Issue2035 you was hearing a real work done, now it is fans only
16:48 JohnnyComeL8ly lol
16:48 Issue2035 also
16:48 Issue2035 MT runs under Win 3.11?
16:48 JohnnyComeL8ly ikd
16:48 JohnnyComeL8ly *Idk
16:48 Issue2035 I think some far friend has that 33MHz with DOS and W311
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16:49 Issue2035 with 20mb hdd probably
16:49 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: btw the command was /usr/games/minetestserver --verbose --config /home/creator/.minetest/minetest.conf &> /home/creator/mtdebug.txt
16:50 Issue2035 will be real cool to install Coherent Unix on it
16:50 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959: Sounds good....
16:50 whtemple1959 JonnyComeL8ly: I must run an errand I will leave it to you and your brain trust to mull over and decide I if I am a lost cause
16:51 Issue2035 that gregorycu guy is so sneaky, can't even slap him with a few bugz
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16:52 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959: I don't notice any errors there.
16:53 JohnnyComeL8ly Issue2035, you are fun.
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16:55 Issue2035 i see people mentioning flickering
16:55 Issue2035 i have that too in universal craft
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16:57 Issue2035 VanessaE: you here, what is the name of crafting guide in your DreamBuilder game? Do you get flickering when changing pages in it? (for the first time)
16:57 VanessaE Unified Inventory
16:58 VanessaE and yes, the pages flicker.  minetest engine issue.
16:58 Issue2035 ah
16:58 Issue2035 bugs, bugs everywhere
16:58 VanessaE has something to do with the code that renders items for display in an inventory -- the default inventory does the same thing, just less so.
16:59 Issue2035 also
17:00 Issue2035 VanessaE: you mentioned moretrees shadow tree problem, but I'm getting it too on default trees too on maikerumine's server, really strange
17:00 Issue2035 need to test on SP
17:00 VanessaE that shadow bug only happens with mgv7
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17:00 Issue2035 on all trees?
17:00 Issue2035 it was 7, yes
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17:00 Issue2035 BUT
17:00 Issue2035 on newly grown trees
17:00 VanessaE mostly with moretrees, but it would affect any mod that uses the spawn_tree() lsystem call
17:01 Issue2035 place and grow them at night, day, ???, faulty shadows!
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17:01 Issue2035 i will try it in git version
17:01 VanessaE it has something to do with how the engine manages it's internal voxel manip region that the trees spawn in
17:01 VanessaE hmmmm: *poke*
17:01 * Issue2035 <<< FIX ME!
17:02 Issue2035 need to update minetest_game
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17:03 VanessaE Issue2035: update your "more screenshots" in that issue to point to https://imgrush.com/d71a3dd6ffbd
17:03 Issue2035 good to know people are working on water columns fix
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17:04 Issue2035 that bug is super horrible
17:04 VanessaE also, your screenshots don't show anything useful
17:04 Issue2035 VanessaE: it is not mine screenshots :)
17:04 VanessaE oh yeah
17:04 Issue2035 VanessaE: btw, look on far towers
17:05 Issue2035 VanessaE: it is in fact very visible ingame, that issue has better screens
17:05 VanessaE ont he distant towers, I see some bits of wood on the outside, is that what you're talking about?
17:06 Issue2035 VanessaE: guh, you are not recognizing the problem, look here https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/6941454​/6275374/dc7d994e-b87e-11e4-8510-ad05e7115cba.png
17:06 Issue2035 best example
17:06 Issue2035 but yes, often inside of houses are rendered
17:06 Issue2035 that is just super annoying
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17:06 Issue2035 MESE block has problems
17:07 VanessaE you talking about those diagonal stripes?
17:08 Issue2035 yes
17:08 Issue2035 they are common
17:08 Issue2035 on houses
17:08 Issue2035 too
17:08 VanessaE ok
17:08 Issue2035 when you walk it is moving and changing too
17:08 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959: /home/creator/.minetest/worlds/world/auth.txt
17:09 JohnnyComeL8ly What does that say?
17:09 Issue2035 VanessaE: you can rotate that stripes by changing view angle
17:09 JohnnyComeL8ly btw, I'm soon gonna help my dad with woodworking... no help then.
17:09 JohnnyComeL8ly *no help from me
17:09 VanessaE Issue2035: that effect is called z-fighting
17:10 Issue2035 there were no such problem in earlie MT, i don't remember it, I've noticed it in 0.4.13
17:11 Issue2035 I remember it in other games
17:11 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959, edit your last post with your cmd
17:13 Issue2035 Calinou: you need to fix your README for Carbone-ng, it says "To use this subgame with the Minetest engine, insert this repository as /games/minetest_game" but it is not minetest_game
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17:16 Issue2035 started new world and after few steps i"m already seeing z-fighting 50~ away (water vs smth)
17:16 Issue2035 stripe -;ike
17:17 Issue2035 stuttering is hard
17:17 VanessaE water flickering between opaque and transparent?
17:18 Issue2035 no
17:18 Issue2035 like on that screenshot i posted there
17:18 VanessaE weird bug anyway
17:18 Issue2035 stripes
17:18 VanessaE right
17:18 Issue2035 when looking from above
17:18 Issue2035 soo it appears in lots of situaltions
17:19 Issue2035 mese block have this
17:19 VanessaE I've never had the bug you describe happen to me unless I was flying around inside a mesh node (e.g. stairs)
17:19 Issue2035 i've seen it on your server :}
17:19 VanessaE and then it was only z-fighting with the immediately-neighboring face(s).,
17:20 Issue2035 not far from spawn, i will look at it again
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17:31 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: the auth.txt file is here...http://paste.ubuntu.com/13103114/ I do not know what you mean by edit my last post with my cmd. I must get out the door and run these errands before my son gets home I will be back in an hour
17:34 Issue2035 фрррр
17:34 Issue2035 ahh* forgot that trees are now requiring light level 13
17:35 Issue2035 was waiting for 10 min to grow, like an idiot
17:35 alket is there just a simple minetest coin ?
17:36 VanessaE alket: maptools has copper, silver, and gold coins.
17:36 VanessaE most servers have that mod, but no one ever uses those coins for some reason
17:36 alket thanks VanessaE
17:37 alket VanessaE: I can't find it here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1882
17:37 VanessaE https://github.com/Calinou/maptoo​ls/blob/master/craftitems.lua#L12
17:38 alket thanks
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17:41 Issue2035 hmm, can I grow them by placing mese lamp to the side of saplinks?
17:41 VanessaE yep
17:42 VanessaE that's exactly what paramat had in mind
17:42 VanessaE super glow glass should also work
17:42 rubenwardy OpenGL is infuriating
17:42 VanessaE rubenwardy: what'chya programming?
17:42 Issue2035 superglow glass? is it not default
17:43 rubenwardy I'm trying to learn to do shaders
17:43 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rube​nwardy/27ec8bf88a6fa611a63a
17:43 Issue2035 infuriating since 1992 %)
17:44 rubenwardy updated to add more info
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17:45 Ingar issue is GLEW, not OpenGL
17:45 rubenwardy added all the code
17:46 rubenwardy the errors are in GLU
17:46 rubenwardy if I do #include <GL/glu.h> instead of <GL/glew.h>, the errors are the same
17:46 rubenwardy now has my source code: #https://gist.github.com/rube​nwardy/27ec8bf88a6fa611a63a
17:48 Ingar you hae a weird glu.h
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17:49 Ingar that windows ?
17:49 rubenwardy added the glu.h
17:49 rubenwardy no, lol
17:51 rubenwardy maybe: https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/​27ec8bf88a6fa611a63a#file-glu-h-L16
17:51 rubenwardy I use xubuntu 14.0
17:51 rubenwardy 4
17:51 Ingar * This file is part of the mingw-w64 runtime package.
17:52 rubenwardy ah
17:52 rubenwardy ffs, mingw
17:52 Ingar mingw-w64 != mingw
17:52 Ingar but, close enough ;)
17:53 rubenwardy how do I fix this?
17:53 rubenwardy I might just reinstall the OS :'(
17:53 Ingar donno what package provides it though, mine might come with the nvidia driver
17:53 alket oh World Edit black areas are still here :s
17:54 rubenwardy I tried setting up mingw earlier this year, and it did this
17:54 rubenwardy lesson learned
17:55 rubenwardy Don't trust online bash scripts even if they look okay, as they may have side effects
17:55 rubenwardy especially sfa_5's
17:59 Ingar hehe
17:59 Ingar if you want to setup mingw on windows, I have a pretty complete guide
18:00 alket nice /mapfix fixes it
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18:02 Issue2035 you can make /mapfix 1000 and go on a trip to mountains
18:02 Issue2035 it is very slow, once did /mapfix 200 on new redcrab, max_lag was over 200
18:09 Issue2035 was unable to reproduce tree shadow bug in git version
18:10 Ingar is that where the land gets very dark when you grow trees ?
18:13 Issue2035 yes
18:15 Issue2035 can i disable email notifications from forum? too much of them
18:16 Issue2035 i've deleted 2 pages, disabled it somewhere in control panel... yet no luck
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18:20 Ingar Issue2035: getting that all the time
18:20 Ingar (in git)
18:21 Issue2035 o.O
18:21 Ingar trying to make a sshot
18:21 Ingar so you can verify we're talking about the same
18:22 rubenwardy Ingar, I was trying to cross-compile to windows
18:22 Ingar Supertanker2: you supertanker, you here too? :)
18:23 rubenwardy Issue2035, I don't get email notifications from the forum
18:23 rubenwardy do you mean GitHub?
18:23 Ingar Issue2035: ofc, it's night on my map :)
18:23 Issue2035 forum
18:23 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/ucp.​php?i=main&amp;mode=subscribed
18:24 rubenwardy unsubscribe from all there
18:24 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959: I mean, edit your last post in the forum so that it contains which cmd you used to start the server.
18:24 rubenwardy http://new2.fjcdn.com/pictures/Et​+in+star+wars_64f05d_3765697.jpg
18:25 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: ok
18:25 Issue2035 thank you!
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18:27 Ingar Issue2035: is it like this http://ingar.satgnu.net/files/minet​est/screenshot_20151104_192435.png ?
18:28 Issue2035 Ingar: yes
18:28 Ingar that's a not-so-old git build
18:28 Issue2035 Ingar: if you can, please post about it on github or forum in bugz section
18:29 Issue2035 i get it on 0.4.13 on multiplayer server
18:29 Issue2035 but cannot reproduce in git in single player
18:30 Ingar Issue2035: I wonder if you'd get it if I shared you the map
18:31 Ingar and if there's a topi calready :)
18:32 Ingar *topic
18:32 whtemple1959 JOhnnyComeL8ly: it is posted to the forum
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18:36 Issue2035 i don't see any topics about it
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18:42 whtemple1959 JohnnnyComeL8ly: could a conflict or a syntax error in my conf file cause the server application to ignore it and move on?
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18:45 JohnnyComeL8ly I'm not sure.  paste it.
18:45 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959: ^^
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18:47 Ingar anything in the world files I should not publicly share ?
18:47 JohnnyComeL8ly whtemple1959, minetest.conf
18:48 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13104283/ in the map section I seem to have both mg & mgv6 instructions and I think maybe those to are in conflict with each other
18:49 JohnnyComeL8ly Maybe... try to do a minimal conf.
18:49 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: be right back
18:50 PilzAdam Ingar, auth.txt, maybe
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18:54 Ingar Issue2035: https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=13536
18:56 Issue2035 thanks
18:57 Ingar too bad the tower on that map hasn't been finished yet :)
18:57 Issue2035 water is so lazy in MT
18:58 Issue2035 does not flow in newly generated caves
19:00 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: a cong with only creative_mode = true and it still is not processed
19:04 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: if the auth.txt file and the worl.mt files can be edited is there another file where I can put the creative mode command?
19:07 Issue2035 craaaaaaaaaaaaaash
19:08 Issue2035 and log was turned off, ffffs, #0 EmergeThread::run was last one
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19:14 Issue2035 VanessaE: any advances on that fog problem?
19:14 VanessaE idk
19:15 Issue2035 VanessaE: your attempt failed, as I understand :)
19:15 VanessaE huh?
19:16 Issue2035 nvmnd
19:17 Issue2035 looking at new mapgen views made me sleepy
19:26 whtemple1959 JohnnyComeL8ly: I must go get my son from school I shall return before dinner
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20:20 JBB I cant login on the forum. I tried to reset the passwort and also tried to register the account again. nothing  worked. Kann someone help me please?
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20:52 Calinou JBB, what happens when you try to log in? what's your forum username?
20:53 Calinou your account is already activated by the way (if it's "jbb")
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22:31 AndDT Issue2035: I have Pentium-MMX 166 mhz :)
22:31 AndDT It was my first _own_ machine
22:31 Issue2035 cool
22:32 Issue2035 what is installed on it?
22:32 AndDT And I am from Ukraine too :)
22:32 AndDT Slackware 14.1
22:32 AndDT + freedos 1.0
22:32 AndDT Slackware on 20gb hdd in mobilerack
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22:46 Jordach oh baby
22:46 Jordach OH BABY
22:46 Jordach i shouldn't be doing this
22:46 Jordach (i've added experimental PBR support for my Blender models)
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23:11 Jordach http://jordach.net/Images/Screenshots/PBR.png

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