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00:00 Fixer good luck VanessaE
00:02 VanessaE go ahead :)
00:02 VanessaE I'm not gonna touch it, idk what I'm doing :)
00:04 VanessaE seems to me if you do  clamp((scene_color * fog * depth) + local_light)  it would produce the desired effect.
00:06 VanessaE (taking pilzadam's comment into consideration)(
00:07 VanessaE as for unloaded areas, how hard would it be -- honestly, because I don't know -- to compute the edges of the distant region and fill them with polys of some average color?
00:08 VanessaE (if and only if the average light along those edges is zero or something)
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00:08 Fixer i've noticed not loaded blocks only once as tiny patch in a corner, it should not be a big problem
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00:09 VanessaE it's a problem with large caves for sure, think "caverealms" mod.
00:09 VanessaE wb, Taoki
00:09 Taoki Thanks
00:09 VanessaE Taoki: opinions?  [10-29 20:04] <VanessaE> seems to me if you do  clamp((scene_color * fog * depth) + local_light)  it would produce the desired effect.
00:10 Taoki What is the desired effect?
00:10 Fixer ah
00:10 Fixer if you have fog, you will not see not loaded blocks iirc
00:10 VanessaE Taoki: black fog in the dark, light-colored if the area in question has enough ambient light, even if the object itself is already black (like obsidian)
00:10 VanessaE black fog in a dark cave that is
00:10 Taoki Ah. Don't think I've seen this before. Can you post a screenshot please?
00:11 VanessaE Taoki: no screenshot - just a theory.
00:11 VanessaE but the idea is to fix this:  https://forum.minetest.net/v​iewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=13511
00:11 Fixer oh, i'm wrong, there are visible even with fog
00:11 Fixer not loaded blocks*
00:11 Taoki Aha, I see now
00:11 VanessaE Fixer: yeah, the not-yet-loaded region has a bad tendency to end up closer to you than the fog/view range limit
00:12 Taoki Well I can only think of one way: Make fog black when the sky doesn't itself render. Minetest automatically disables the sky if you're inside a cave... or at least it should.
00:12 VanessaE this *also* needs fixed.
00:12 VanessaE Taoki: it doesn't.  it just tries to based on your view pitch.
00:12 Fixer lol
00:12 Taoki Try looking into a cave entrance then quickly back out; You'll see the sky fading in, as it's smoothly enabled / disabled.
00:12 Fixer i confirm
00:12 Taoki Ok. That's what needs to be fixed then, in my opinion
00:12 Fixer make a biiiiiiiiiiiiiiig cave and you will see a sky with the sun
00:12 Fixer on a horizon
00:13 Fixer seen it
00:13 Fixer and I think it was like that forever
00:14 VanessaE yeah, it's been this way forever.. and it's a thorn in the side of anyone who thinks good view rendering is important :)
00:14 Fixer flying deep at -1000 and this blue background is annoying
00:14 Fixer at nonloaded blocks
00:15 Fixer ah, MESE block has nice glow
00:15 Fixer btw, it is only me... or v7 mapgen caves are fissure like? it is very repeatable
00:15 VanessaE that's since been reverted.
00:16 VanessaE (the mese block glow)
00:16 VanessaE or has it?  hm
00:16 Fixer it was on a mese diamond
00:16 Fixer mese block has nice glow
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01:00 testacct hey, what version of minetest was most recent in march 23 2013?
01:00 testacct using celeron55's dungeon subgame, and the current version of minetest is painfully slow on my pc
01:00 testacct thought an old version would be good
01:04 Fixer hmm
01:04 testacct 0.4.5ish nvm
01:04 Fixer new version is slower for you?
01:04 testacct yes
01:04 testacct veryyy
01:05 Fixer you are not alone
01:05 testacct i remember the old days when it was fast af
01:05 Fixer i found between 0.4.4 and 0.4.13 there is 15% fps drop
01:05 Fixer yes
01:05 Fixer it was faster, it seems, played it since 2011
01:06 testacct me too actually
01:06 testacct same year
01:06 Fixer on celeron's server
01:06 testacct even 0.4.5 is slow wtf
01:06 Fixer lower your graphic settings
01:06 testacct that does not make sense now, because this ran really nicely on my old shit hardware
01:06 testacct i did
01:06 Fixer what calculator are you using?
01:06 testacct calculator?
01:06 Fixer i mean PC
01:06 Fixer *cough*
01:06 testacct optiplex 360, with 4gb of ram
01:07 Fixer looks pretty modern for me, what videocard?
01:07 testacct Pentium (R) Dual Core CPU 2.70GHz. 4.00 GB RAM. 64-bit OS. Onboard graphics.
01:07 Fixer ah
01:08 Fixer onboard ---p
01:08 testacct Yeah
01:08 Fixer onboard could be a problem
01:08 testacct I have a card but it does not fit in jt
01:08 testacct it*
01:08 Fixer must be AGP card
01:08 testacct I mean, there is so much stuff inside that I can't literally fit it into it
01:08 Fixer ah
01:08 testacct It's PCIE.
01:08 testacct It would work if it had room
01:09 testacct Maybe VRAM and overclocking will do the trick?
01:09 Fixer don't think so
01:09 testacct why not?
01:09 testacct works in mc :)
01:09 Fixer onboard is crap
01:09 testacct yeah
01:10 testacct my old pc ran it fine but that is broken now
01:10 Fixer CPU is good enough for MT
01:10 testacct yeah, same with ram
01:10 Fixer i was playing nicely on P4 2.8GHz on 0.4.4 iirc
01:10 Fixer with ATI Radeon 9600xt
01:10 testacct Let me try to fit it in again
01:11 Fixer now it is Core i3 + ATI Radeon HD6870, and it runs better, but not without problems like stutters and such
01:11 Fixer anyway i go sleep, have fun
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01:40 swift110-phone Hey
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05:29 RichardTheTurd Where can I get instant saplings from?
05:30 greeter well, you get saplings themselves from trees. they can be planted and eventually grow into trees (usually fairly quickly in my experience)
05:30 greeter i find the best way to get saplings is to just cut down the tree in question, a few usually drop off
05:32 RichardTheTurd I know. Im just having issues with them not growing
05:33 RichardTheTurd from the moretrees mod that is
05:34 greeter ah, i can't help you there. i haven't experimented with any mods yet
05:56 swift110-phone Hey
05:56 greeter greetings swift110-phone
05:57 swift110-phone How r u greeter
05:58 greeter i'm hanging in there. you?
05:59 swift110-phone Im great
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05:59 greeter that's good to hear :-)
06:02 swift110-phone Wyd
06:03 greeter i'm upgrading my operating system, deathly boring thing right now lol, and yet still oddly frustrating. you?
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06:16 swift110-phone Which os?
06:16 swift110-phone Relaxing
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06:17 OdinAllfather Anybody?
06:17 greeter ubuntu 15.04
06:17 OdinAllfather Umm ok
06:17 greeter greetings OdinAllfather
06:17 OdinAllfather Hello chatbot
06:18 greeter what's new?
06:18 OdinAllfather Just trying to figure where V and OneZ and all of my old MT buddies went
06:19 greeter ah, i don't know unfortunately, i'm rather new here myself
06:20 OdinAllfather Hmm there used to be a specific server they used but I can't recall it
06:21 greeter well, it's a pretty friendly channel. if they're irc users, feel free to hang out here to see if any of them drop by
06:23 swift110-phone Im relatively new as well
06:24 greeter i think i'll put on some coffee, brb
06:25 OdinAllfather Hmmm I guess
06:26 greeter it's going to be a long night lol
06:28 swift110-phone Ok
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06:41 AndroUser Im back
06:42 OdinAllfather Ok better
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09:00 TheWild hello
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09:36 TheWild I was thinking about kicking off the current crafting system.
09:36 TheWild at least from the core
09:37 TheWild I told once that it is too-specific and should rather go to Lua script.
09:37 TheWild Well, it is here right from beginnings of Minetest, definitely ripped from MC.
09:37 TheWild Why the hell you are ripping game-specific features but do not want to get engine-specific ones?
09:37 TheWild nevermind, that's not the problem I wanted to tell about. The problem is:
09:37 TheWild more mods introducing more blocks, then more crafting recipes (avoid conflicts!)
09:37 TheWild and we're ending up with a crafting hell: We want to craft a device and it requires
09:37 TheWild a speaker in first row, which requires a steel wire which requires... I don't remember - let's go to crafting guide.
09:37 TheWild Okay, iron ore here, plastic sheet here... To craft plastic sheet I have to...
09:37 TheWild Stack overflow!
09:38 TheWild Sometimes it have to write down on sheet of paper what I have to craft.
09:38 TheWild Is this really that bad or it is just me?
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09:50 TheWild is this fixed? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1091, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1654
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10:00 TheWild !ping
10:00 VanessaE ping timeout
10:00 VanessaE :)
10:00 TheWild even ShadowBot ignores me
10:00 TheWild hello VanessaE
10:01 VanessaE it's 6am, no one's hardly even here to begin with :P
10:01 VanessaE as for your crafting rant, it's not really that bad.  it's just you. :)
10:01 TheWild 11:00 here
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10:03 TheWild the two issues I wrote here seems to be fixed
10:04 TheWild 2 days ago I got "Connection timeout" or something like. (wow, it is finally implemented)
10:04 VanessaE better mention that in -dev then
10:11 CWz hello VanessaE
10:11 VanessaE hi hi
10:13 CWz Rip VE-MG
10:13 VanessaE yep.
10:27 nrzkt CWz, what is that ?
10:27 VanessaE an old server I used to run
10:27 nrzkt ok
10:27 VanessaE died when the 'mg' mod stopped working
10:28 CWz btw autorun doesn't animate the player
10:28 VanessaE long obsoleted anyway
10:28 CWz does VanessaE  still need suggestion
10:28 VanessaE no, not gonna launch anything new right now
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11:47 swift110-phone Good morning
11:48 Obani oy
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14:01 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello, y'all.
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14:40 WILLIAM1 Hi All.
14:41 WILLIAM1 Gabo
14:41 Telesight Hello all, Is it preferable to compile Minetest with LuaJit on Ubuntu server?
14:42 zat Telesight: preferable to what, LuaJIT is supposed to always increase performance.
14:42 Telesight To the normal LUa ...
14:45 VanessaE definitely preferable.
14:46 WILLIAM1 Help me
14:46 VanessaE help you what?
14:46 WILLIAM1 Gabo server
14:46 WILLIAM1 i no join
14:47 thePalindrome_ try deleting system32, that may help :p
14:47 VanessaE Telesight: LuaJIT is a just-in-time compiler for Lua, minetest passes mods through it for great performance increases
14:47 thePalindrome_ what is Gabo?
14:47 Telesight Ok; something like this I assume;  -DLUAJIT=1
14:48 VanessaE it's auto-detected.
14:48 VanessaE just install the appropriate dev package and compile minetest and it'll just find it
14:48 Calinou http://packages.ubuntu.com​/search?keywords=libluajit
14:48 Calinou install libluajit-5.1-dev
14:48 Calinou available on Ubuntu 12.04 and highe
14:48 Calinou +r
14:49 VanessaE that's the one :)
14:49 Calinou heh, the codename of Ubuntu 16.04 is Xenial
14:49 Calinou reminds me of final boss in Quake 3, Xaero
14:49 VanessaE meh, xaero wasn't that hard to beat :P
14:50 Calinou the game gets too hard for me after tier 2 in Hurt Me Plenty
14:50 Calinou have to finish it in Bring It On
14:50 VanessaE well I never did say what level I played on :P
14:50 Calinou I Can Win :D
14:50 Calinou I played that on OpenArena when I was younger, scoring "Perfect" every so often
14:50 VanessaE heh no, the next one above that I think
14:50 Calinou then it's Bring It On
14:51 VanessaE been years
14:51 VanessaE these days I rather suck at OA :P
14:51 Calinou I never tried Hardcore/Nightmare but it looks very hard
14:51 Calinou bots have no handicap in that skill
14:51 Calinou (in skill 1, they have handicap 50, in skill 2, handicap 70, in skill 3, handicap 90)
14:51 Calinou which means their stable health is 50/70/90, and they deal only 50/70/90% damage
14:52 Calinou I challenge someone to play the last level in Nightmare, with handicap 1
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14:59 JohnnyComeL8ly Guys, the other day, I was in #irrlicht, and one of the guys there said that Wayland support isn't a priority and that if I submitted a patch for that, then that would be good.
14:59 JohnnyComeL8ly The problem is that I don't know how to....
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15:04 thePalindrome_ I'm afraid I don't know Wayland either
15:05 JohnnyComeL8ly Ooh, strike one....
15:06 JohnnyComeL8ly Thanks for piping up, in any case.
15:06 thePalindrome_ I could find out more about it, if I had the time
15:07 thePalindrome_ how hard could it be? ;p
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15:27 JohnnyComeL8ly thePalindrome_: Yeah, I know, right.
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16:25 Calinou we can use XWayland for the foreseeable future
16:25 Calinou but it would be good to have native support
16:35 Calinou http://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/phoro​nix/latest-phoronix-articles/832080-intel-​broadwell-skylake-graphics-performance-for​-steam-linux-gaming?p=832086#post832086
16:35 Calinou post of the year
16:36 zat lmao
16:38 JohnnyComeL8ly I'll take a look at it.
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16:49 Ingar I'll run some benchies of my skylake vs my gtx 970
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17:16 CWz who own the Sea is my life server
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17:36 ElectronLibre CWz: I don't know, but you gave me an idea. Is there already somewhere a mod which registers a chatcommand so that players can see the "name" parameter and know who is the admin? Could that be worth being coded?
17:37 CWz that pretty simple to implement
17:37 Calinou we could have server_owner parameter
17:37 ElectronLibre Yes, that's why I wanted to know.
17:37 ElectronLibre Calinou: It's like "name" in minetest.conf. It's the admin's name.
17:38 Calinou see what I said in #minetest-dev
17:38 Calinou I think this is a pretty good idea
17:38 Calinou QuakeWorld has this too
17:38 Calinou so you can contact admins with issues, if they specified their e-mail
17:39 ElectronLibre If those fields are added it will be easy to create a chatcommand that sends the basic informations to players who need them.
17:39 CWz not sure how many admins are willing to do this
17:40 ElectronLibre If they use a dedicated email account they would. (IRC servers have that in their configuration files also, on all of the IRCds I've used so far)
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17:56 rubenwardy minetest.register_chatcommand("whois_admin", {func=function(name) minetest.chat_send_player(name, minetest.setting_get("name")) end })
17:57 rubenwardy simples
17:57 rubenwardy if it works
17:57 rubenwardy ElectronLibre
17:57 ElectronLibre I'm gonna test that but I think it lacks a proper sentence.
17:58 ElectronLibre However that's more or less what I had already thought about in my mind.
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18:05 ElectronLibre rubenwardy, it works : https://lut.im/KLACsnEWBK/1kinnHXpd6gnlQ9x.png https://gist.github.com/LeMa​gnesium/5e40bb8c34876e522ea2
18:06 Krock nerd_level++;
18:24 zat guys, check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUX0yMg4csY
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18:25 zat around 5:10
18:26 Inocudom OldCoder: Could you change my player skin on your servers to the one linked to here? https://forum.minetest.net​/download/file.php?id=4020
18:27 zat and: 9:00
18:29 Krock guys, check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0M9VK6x850
18:30 Krock zat, amazing graphics :)
18:30 zat not only the graphics
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18:31 Inocudom Bye.
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18:32 Krock That moment when you drink a beer, fall off your chair into a puddle of soda and accidently order a pizza.
18:34 Krock zat, that looks great! Changeable landscape and this without seeing any voxels
18:34 zat what you do is boxy though
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18:47 Ingar is there a flat worldgen?
18:47 Krock !mod flat
18:47 MinetestBot Krock: flatgen by Krock - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=8952
18:47 Ingar win
18:48 Krock !next
18:48 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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18:57 zat now we need a round planet
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18:57 zat how to make a round world in a voxel game?
18:58 Ingar modulo
18:58 zat I am sure I saw one that do just that somewhere around in Steam, I can't find it now.
18:58 zat module?
18:58 Ingar it's a math thing
19:00 zat so can round worlds be made with that? :S
19:00 rubenwardy remainder, basically.   a module b = the remainder after a / b
19:00 rubenwardy so 5 mod 2 is 1
19:00 rubenwardy 5/2 = 2
19:00 rubenwardy r 1
19:00 Ingar zat: basicly, you have the world 'warp' at the ssides
19:00 rubenwardy not round, but looping
19:01 zat that would be noticeable though
19:01 rubenwardy say x mod 5.  1 + 1 = 2, 2 + 1 = 3, 3 + 1 = 4, 4 + 1 = 0, 0 + 1 = 1
19:01 Ingar making it actually round takes some more doing
19:01 rubenwardy it would be seamless
19:01 zat I see only numbers LOL
19:01 rubenwardy you'd walk from -31,000 to 30,000
19:02 rubenwardy each time I'm adding 1 to the previous answer, zat
19:02 zat what happens around the center?
19:02 rubenwardy nothing
19:02 rubenwardy if you do it right
19:02 zat or if I fly super far
19:02 zat would I see the world round?
19:03 Glorfindel hey rubenwardy
19:03 Glorfindel thanks for trying to help me get your program working
19:03 zat no, that would require some... something
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19:07 rubenwardy you're welcome
19:07 rubenwardy Don?
19:07 rubenwardy O_o
19:07 alket what are recommended spec for a vps to host a DreamBuilder server ?
19:08 est31 VanessaE, ^
19:08 rubenwardy Glorfindel, does it actually say Irrlicht 1.8.something in the console when running it?
19:08 rubenwardy eg: Irrlicht Engine version 1.8.1
19:10 Glorfindel I'll check
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19:10 alket The inventory used by Carbon-NG and DreamBuilder give unlimited items in non creative mode, how to remove that ?
19:10 rubenwardy also, don't run install_irrlicht.sh again
19:11 alket but while keeping the cool inventory
19:12 rubenwardy There're two things that make me thing that it's my fault
19:12 Glorfindel oh I need irrlicht installed?
19:12 Glorfindel I don't know if I have that or not
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19:12 rubenwardy install_irrlicht.sh installs the dev version, don't run it again
19:12 rubenwardy just run sudo apt-get install libirrlicht-dev
19:13 rubenwardy There're two things that make me thing that it's my fault
19:13 rubenwardy 1. it works with 0.8.1
19:13 rubenwardy 2. It happens when resizing, not when the mesh is generated the first time.
19:13 Glorfindel bleh, I can't install anything right now, ubuntu is upgrading :\
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19:15 zat oh I want this one so bad http://store.steampowered.com/app/369580/
19:15 Glorfindel ok, so right now it says Exec format error
19:15 sfan5 !title
19:15 MinetestBot sfan5: NotGTAV on Steam
19:16 Glorfindel and then with sudo there is a syntax error
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19:17 rubenwardy continue here? https://github.com/rubenwar​dy/NodeBoxEditor/issues/79
19:19 Glorfindel that is not the issue I'm having
19:19 rubenwardy oh, lol
19:21 Glorfindel it doesn't launch ;)
19:22 Glorfindel like, I click on the .desktop file, and nothing happens, the ./bin/nodeboxeditor executable leaves the errors when I run it from a terminal
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19:23 rubenwardy coincidence that you were IRC'd me just as I was having a conversation with Don
19:23 Glorfindel oh lol
19:23 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?p=196770#p196770
19:24 alket so is there a way to disable "Give Me" in Unified Inventory
19:25 rubenwardy I have no idea how to do builds. What OS do you use, exactly?
19:25 Glorfindel ubuntu server 15.04 with lubuntu-desktop for gui
19:25 Glorfindel 32 bit
19:26 est31 alket, I think thats the creative priv
19:26 alket est31: I have it disabled
19:26 Glorfindel alket: but do you have the creative priv in the world?
19:27 alket Glorfindel: Im in singleplayer
19:27 est31 ah
19:27 alket just created a new world and hit start
19:27 est31 there is a check box when you start minetest
19:27 alket est31: yes, thats disabled
19:27 Glorfindel alket: type /privs
19:29 Glorfindel what privs do you have?
19:30 alket Glorfindel: basic ones
19:31 alket Glorfindel: i.imgur.com/D5BfWyS.png
19:32 Glorfindel you probably need to revoke some I guess
19:32 Glorfindel not sure which ones
19:35 alket why doesn't minetest provide linux binaries ?
19:36 PilzAdam alket, distros should do it themselves
19:36 PilzAdam though, we provide a PPA for ubuntu like systems
19:37 alket PilzAdam: yes I know, but its a game, many won't be available to get the latest version, also PPA for Ubuntu is unstable
19:37 alket + Microsoft doesn't provide the builds for windows :p
19:37 PilzAdam there is a stable and an unstable PPA
19:39 alket well anyway it could be very useful to provide binaries
19:40 PilzAdam do you understand what distros are for?
19:41 Krock alket, that's why the builds forum exists
19:42 alket PilzAdam: yes, but the world isn't perfect
19:42 PilzAdam arch is
19:44 Krock rofl
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19:49 Calinou we could have generic GNU/Linux binaries like most games do, with libraries bundled
19:49 Calinou it'd actually be useful
19:50 Calinou Blender does it very well, their binaries work literally everywhere
19:50 PilzAdam I doubt that it's worth the effort
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20:16 kahrl AFAIK Blender is actually quite painful for distributors for this exact reason
20:16 kahrl the sheer amount of bundled libraries
20:16 kahrl https://blog.flameeyes.eu/20​13/02/the-status-of-blender
20:23 Ingar pacman -S blender
20:23 Calinou Ingar, say that in #blender
20:23 Calinou get instant reprimand from Olson and JA12 :)
20:24 Ingar what did I do? I installed blender!
20:24 Calinou but it can often be out of date... but maybe Arch is so ahead of other distributions
20:25 Calinou Fedora 22 still has 2.75
20:25 Calinou while 2.76 is out
20:25 Calinou and Fedora is hardly the most out-of-date distribution
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20:25 Ingar 2.76 here
20:25 Calinou in a week we might get Fedora 23
20:26 Ingar it's one of the reasons for running arch, up-to-date packages
20:26 Ingar there's ofc plenty of reasons not to run arch :)
20:26 Ingar the arch minetest package runs fine :)
20:27 kahrl well, I'll be attempting an arch install in a few hours
20:27 Calinou https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/blender
20:28 Ingar kahrl: mke sure you ahve a second computer at hand with the arch wiki open
20:28 sfan5 but does it blend
20:28 Ingar (not kidding)
20:28 kahrl Ingar: it's in a virtual machine
20:28 kahrl and I have other people to help me
20:28 Ingar kahrl: instant win
20:29 Ingar might suck for blender though (OpenGL)
20:29 kahrl I'm not sure we'll get to that :P
20:29 kahrl https://www.twitchinstalls.com/
20:30 sfan5 I'd rather see twitch installs debian
20:30 Calinou I don't think Blender runs in VirtualBox at all
20:30 Calinou same for Godot
20:30 kahrl or LFS
20:31 Ingar LFS is awesome
20:31 Ingar but labour intensive to maintain
20:32 Ingar it's the way to go to become guru though
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20:47 Inocudom OldCoder: May I have the following skin as my player skin in your servers? https://forum.minetest.net​/download/file.php?id=4022
20:48 Glorfindel !tell rubenwardy I nbe working
20:48 MinetestBot Glorfindel: I'll pass that on when rubenwardy is around
20:48 Glorfindel er, got
20:48 OldCoder Inocudom, you do not read email, I take it
20:48 Glorfindel darn
20:48 OldCoder You should have received a notification that I had responded
20:48 OldCoder I responded to the in-game message BTW which my bouncer had recorded
20:49 OldCoder Please tell people NOT to do what you did and post in the forums
20:49 OldCoder If people I don't know do that I will respond negatively
20:49 * OldCoder really does not like that
20:49 CWz what?
20:49 OldCoder CWz, Hi
20:50 * OldCoder does not like to deal with skin requests, interact requests, "give me fly priv" requests, etc., in the forums
20:50 * OldCoder does not really do forums at all but has started to do MT forums to help out the community
20:51 * OldCoder does not like dealing with individual requests there. They take more time that way and clutter up the threads.
20:51 OldCoder
20:52 OldCoder Inocudom, this said, your skin should be operational in all of my worlds that share common skins
20:52 OldCoder If there are further changes, please email or use IRC
20:52 OldCoder
20:52 Inocudom OldCoder: Thank you.
20:52 OldCoder o/
20:53 OldCoder Inocudom, hm; I see two different skin links in your messages...
20:54 OldCoder If they are not the same image, I'm probably not going to make two changes in the same day
20:54 Inocudom They are the same skin.
20:54 Glorfindel !tell rubenwardy I *got* nbe to work I mean ;)
20:54 MinetestBot Glorfindel: I'll pass that on when rubenwardy is around
20:54 Inocudom OldCoder: They are the exact same skin.
20:54 OldCoder OK then
21:00 OldCoder Inocudom, I'm committed to IRL tasks for a few days, but will be pleased to work with proller and you to set up a Freeminer world
21:01 OldCoder Inocudom, note, too, that channels #freeminer and #freeminer-dev now exist at Codernet (irc.oldcoder.org)
21:01 OldCoder
21:02 Inocudom OldCoder: That is good news. I hope that proller will this opportunity seriously and realize that it could bring real life to Freeminer.
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21:02 OldCoder He has a real life too of his own as we all do
21:02 OldCoder So things need to be a step at a time
21:02 Inocudom OldCoder: I went and looked at those channels, but you were not there.
21:02 OldCoder The key is to build supportive communities
21:03 OldCoder Hm? I am there now; try again
21:03 OldCoder Did not have them in the bouncer yet
21:03 Inocudom I am hoping that your server can be the start of a supportive community.
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21:17 TheWild does the server process anything when nobody is logged in?
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22:22 Calinou http://cloudkickermusic.com/
22:22 Calinou new Cloudkicker album
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