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01:11 STHGOM a one way filter on a digiline would be awesome
01:12 STHGOM but i dont know anyhting about digilines's code, tho
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02:13 swift110 horray
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02:30 swift110 hey phantombeta
02:33 phantombeta Hello swift110
02:33 phantombeta How are you?
02:39 swift110 i am great and you?
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03:44 swift110 cool
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04:25 wilkgr Is there any way how I can quickly fill a lot of deployers with a lava source in singleplayer?
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05:59 swift110-phone Hey wilkgr
05:59 wilkgr Hi swift110
06:05 swift110-phone How r u
06:05 wilkgr Good. And you?
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06:06 swift110-phone Great
06:06 swift110-phone What ya up too
06:07 wilkgr Umm... Talking to you...watching youtube videos
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06:16 swift110-phone Ok that's cool
06:17 swift110-phone I was just on my pc and had phone
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06:53 wilkgr Hi swift110
06:53 wilkgr storm :-/
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07:03 wilkgr Hi swift100
07:03 wilkgr swift110*
07:03 wilkgr Hello swift110-phone
07:05 swift110-phone Thanks
07:05 wilkgr For what?
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07:13 swift110-phone Just felt like it lol
07:13 wilkgr haha
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08:34 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Thursday, and happy Wily Werewolf welease day! 😃
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08:53 wilkgr JamesTait - was yesterday statistics day?
08:56 JamesTait wilkgr, possibly - I didn't check, because it was Back to the Future Day. 😉
08:57 wilkgr JamesTait - I was on time.is
08:58 JamesTait Hm, I didn't know about that.
08:59 JamesTait Yay, clocks go back on Saturday night! Extra hour of sleep!
08:59 wilkgr JamesTait - can't find what day today is though, that's why I logged on here.
09:01 JamesTait daysoftheyear.com - there are others, but they tend not to have something for every day.
09:01 wilkgr Thanks.
09:01 JamesTait wellcat.com is one. And someone put together a geek calendar that you can subscribe to as a .ics feed.
09:01 wilkgr lol
09:01 JamesTait But that didn't have BTTF Day on it, so I'm suspicious. 😉
09:02 wilkgr BTTF?
09:02 JamesTait Back to the Future. ☺
09:02 wilkgr oh
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09:07 wilkgr JamesTait - I just checked the site you gave, and it said it's nut day!
09:20 JamesTait That sounds about right - plenty of nuts here!
09:21 wilkgr nuts, as in the edible stuff or as in [removed]
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09:25 JamesTait nuts, as in crazy people! 😃
09:25 wilkgr Oh.
09:26 wilkgr Is there a "car day"?
09:27 JamesTait I believe so. I know there's definitely a "No Car" Day, or something very similar.
09:27 wilkgr Oh. Geez. Bad news for me!
09:27 wilkgr I know what Sept. 5th is though!
09:28 JamesTait Freddy Mercury's birthday? ☺
09:28 wilkgr Nope. Mine.
09:28 JamesTait "Car Free Day": https://www.daysoftheyear.c​om/days/world-car-free-day/
09:28 Ingar every day is "no car day"
09:28 * Ingar cycles to work
09:29 wilkgr Not here, Ingar, not in down under!
09:29 JamesTait It is when your office is at the bottom of the garden path.
09:29 Ingar well
09:29 Ingar thrid flat tire in a week today :D
09:29 Ingar *third
09:29 wilkgr 26th January: What day is that? It should be obvious.
09:30 wilkgr Ingar, I drive a Nissan Leaf which is frickin' electric! (No prius hybrids here!)
09:30 Ingar I have my reservations about electric cars
09:30 Ingar people tend to forget the electyricity also needs to be generated
09:30 wilkgr What?
09:31 wilkgr Yes, but:
09:32 wilkgr For petrol to be made, it first has to be refined at a refinery plant which requires electricity and also makes greenhouse gasses.
09:32 Ingar so you burn the petrol instead to generate electricty
09:33 Ingar which  actually needs more petrol than if you'd burn it in an engine directly
09:33 wilkgr Luckily, I use solar.
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09:45 wilkgr Ingar, I use solar to charge my car
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09:59 Ingar wilkgr: good to hear :)
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11:48 Ingar what's the best way to setup potential commits? a branch in the minetest_game repo, or fork it on github and start from there (from the github page, I assume the latter?)
11:53 VanessaE the only way you can do it is to fork and create a new local branch where you make your changes.
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12:18 Ingar VanessaE: ok thanks, I will.
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14:08 luizrpgluiz one uses the social network Diaspora here in IRC?
14:09 Ingar IRC _is_ the social network
14:11 luizrpgluiz hehe, I mean, use social network Diaspora, which is a social network open source decentralized
14:14 rom1504 and crappy
14:17 Ingar I'm on FB like anyone else
14:17 Ingar not that I want to
14:18 Ingar bu that's where some people are
14:20 rom1504 FB doesn't have any competitors really, diaspora is at most a twitter compatitor
14:20 rom1504 *e
14:20 Calinou Quitter is the Twitter competitor
14:20 Calinou and Diaspora is the Facebook competitor
14:22 * Teckla does not use Facebook  :|
14:22 Teckla Facebook = Evil  :(
14:22 rom1504 "wannabe competitor" if you want, but it's missing most of the functionnalities of FB
14:23 Calinou maybe it doesn't do coffee
14:23 rom1504 idk if it's evil, but it works, like google
14:23 Calinou idk? more like idc.
14:23 Calinou everyone knows there's something wrong with them
14:24 rom1504 no
14:24 rom1504 but sure, the centralized web is wrong
14:24 Calinou I want a big service to go down :)
14:24 Calinou (well, Facebook went down last month, look the drama it caused. I'm sure more than 1 person died due to that)
14:25 rom1504 but even if a pen is decentralized, I wouldn't switch my computer with facebook/google for a pen.
14:29 Teckla rom1504: Hopefully IPv6 will happen, and help decentralize things
14:30 Calinou IPv6 with NAT can still happen
14:30 Calinou and we can wait 10+ years for 100% of Internet traffic to use IPv6
14:30 Teckla Yeah, it'll take a long time  :(
14:30 Teckla And I'm sure cable companies and telecom companies will try to wreck it  :(
14:31 Teckla Because they want the control
14:32 Ingar FAcebook went down?
14:32 Ingar didn't notice :)
14:32 rom1504 ipv6 is not really needed for decentralization but yeah it can help
14:32 rom1504 it's not the harder part though, making decentralized software is
14:32 Ingar rom1504: decentralized can be used by terrorists!
14:33 rom1504 yeah, centralized too :p
14:34 Teckla rom1504: What is it exactly you'd like to see decentralized?
14:34 Ingar government
14:34 luizrpgluiz decentralized does not mean using terrorist but that your information is not sold to other companies
14:35 Teckla Ingar: Oh, I thought we were talking about networks and software here, heh
14:36 luizrpgluiz Inga spoke the truth, their information is controlled and also used by the government
14:37 Ingar luizrpgluiz: I'm a software an archist already, I wrote GPL stuff
14:38 luizrpgluiz for example minetest servers are decentralized and other VPS hosted on networks
14:39 luizrpgluiz Ingar: :D
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14:43 Calinou >an archist
14:43 Calinou is that an Arch Linux user? :)
14:43 luizrpgluiz Ingar: you are like my friend Lunovox, it does not use Windows and only uses open sources programs and decentralized too :)
14:43 luizrpgluiz Calinou: i am a user Manjaro Linux :)
14:45 Ingar Calinou: yep
14:45 rom1504 Teckla: the web
14:45 rom1504 I mean, the current usage of the web
14:46 rom1504 the web in itself can be decentralized
14:46 luizrpgluiz I use windows for some tasks, but Linux I use for everything
14:47 Ingar windows is basicly my Steam Machine
14:47 Ingar and mingw when required
14:47 Ingar but I do my "projects" on linux
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14:48 luizrpgluiz I and megaf are the only Brazilian here on irc
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15:03 * VanessaE looks at ShadoTessarGuest...
15:03 VanessaE sser*
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15:07 Ingar here's a branch where I ran vorbisgain https://github.com/IngarKCT/minete​st_game/tree/ingar/sound-footsteps
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15:08 Ingar (I ran vorbisgain on all oggs, not just the default mod)
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15:14 VanessaE Ingar: now make a pull request :)
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15:22 Ingar VanessaE: tbh, I want better dirt and grass sounds first :)
15:22 Ingar I just use the Internet as backup solution
15:22 VanessaE heh ok
15:23 Ingar and add leaves
15:26 Ingar it would also be nice if some people could test the gain adjustments too
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15:28 Ingar it's also a change that effects the feel of the game rather profoundly
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15:47 JBB I cant log in on the forum anymore
15:47 JBB resend passwort is not workin too
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15:50 JBB hi
15:50 MinetestBot [git] leotada -> minetest/minetest: Translated using Weblate (Portuguese (Brazil)) 37c1e20 http://git.io/vWcau (2015-10-22T17:45:48+02:00)
15:50 MinetestBot [git] rui914t@gmail.com -> minetest/minetest: Translated using Weblate (Japanese) 16d208e http://git.io/vWca2 (2015-10-22T17:45:48+02:00)
15:50 MinetestBot [git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Translated using Weblate (German) 1ac19c6 http://git.io/vWcaa (2015-10-22T17:45:48+02:00)
15:51 PilzAdam JBB, I relayed your request to the appropriate staff
15:51 JBB ok thanks
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16:00 Calinou https://lut.im/JngMYbykoT/suOFbR5ThmSaLEUf.png
16:01 Ingar Danse Macabre
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16:02 w_laenger hi
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16:04 w_laenger https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Opus
16:05 w_laenger l tested that, file sizes are a lot smaller than the .ogg file sizes
16:05 w_laenger How about using it for minetest?
16:06 w_laenger .opus sound files instead .ogg ones (ogg opus instead of ogg vorbis)
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16:07 Ingar Calinou: unvanquished uses it
16:07 Ingar erm
16:07 Ingar w_laenger: ^
16:07 Ingar Calinou: thanks for the barrel btw :)
16:07 Ingar I'll see what I can do with it
16:11 w_laenger and how about using ocl for perlin noise?
16:11 w_laenger http://nullprogram.com/blog/2012/06/03/
16:12 w_laenger there someone used it and it was ~200 times faster than using the single core cpu
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16:12 w_laenger http://www.drdobbs.com/parallel/a-gen​tle-introduction-to-opencl/231002854
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16:27 Ingar Calinou: fiing the seam is next to impossible though
16:27 Ingar it would mean redoing the texture
16:27 Ingar preferably both the uvmap and the texture
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16:35 nrzkt hmmm i experienced a strange bug on my server
16:35 Calinou we can't rely on GPU for map generation, since servers use it
16:35 nrzkt all glass like things are always shadowed
16:35 Calinou (OpenCL on CPU is slow, too)
16:35 nrzkt how can this be possible
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16:43 est31 there are servers with gpus
16:47 Calinou yes, Teslas
16:47 Calinou definitely not the average Minetest server
16:50 est31 true
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17:09 crazyR anyone know the correct way to make a node digiline conductive... so as to act like a digiline while keeping its shape?
17:12 VanessaE look at streets mod
17:13 VanessaE it has nodes that do that
17:13 VanessaE (specifically, the steel poles, whatever they're called)
17:36 crazyR thanks
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18:00 MinetestBot [git] RobertZenz -> minetest/minetest: Add more ways to pass data to check_player_privs c328478 http://git.io/vWCnf (2015-10-22T19:55:48+02:00)
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18:34 TheWild do we have an "eyedropper" functionality?
18:34 TheWild ^ creative mode ofc
18:35 VanessaE you mean like Sokomine's replacer tool?
18:36 TheWild mmm... not really. I mean I want to pick a block I'm looking at into inventory instead of searching through amount of pages.
18:41 VanessaE hm
18:41 VanessaE don't know of a mod like that
18:41 VanessaE that could be useful in fact.
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18:42 VanessaE (what I usually do for that is to dig the block, "Refill" it, and then re-place the one I took)
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18:45 TheWild I can empty slot and dig a block and then it goes to empty slot. However that would be nice to do without modifying existing structures.
18:46 TheWild me = minetest.get_player_by_name('singleplayer')
18:46 TheWild I wanted to check what aux1 is for
18:46 TheWild =minetest.after(2, function() minetest.chat_send_all(me:​get_player_control().aux1) end)
18:47 TheWild this unfortunately crashes minetest
18:47 est31 I guess ti requires a string?
18:47 est31 it*
18:47 TheWild good point, I was passing boolean
18:47 est31 do this perhaps instead minetest.chat_send_all(dump(m​e:get_player_control().aux1))
18:48 TheWild hah, thanks
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18:50 TheWild so, aux1 is the "use" key
18:51 TheWild is sneaking common in creative?
18:51 VanessaE I use sneak as a 'toggle' sometimes yeah
18:51 VanessaE i.e. alternate placement
18:52 TheWild I think about using shift + left click as an "eyedropper"
18:53 VanessaE well that would be easily doable in a register_on_punchnode I suppose
18:53 TheWild yeah
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18:55 TheWild okay then, when I catch an event from register_on_punchnode, how to properly forward it to node's on_punch? Should I return something from the callback?
18:57 VanessaE that I'm not sure about :)
18:58 VanessaE when doing stuff like that I have to do a lot of trial-and-error before I get it right
18:58 VanessaE but you can start by pulling the node def and getting the on_punch from there
18:58 VanessaE you should be able to just directly call it (if it isn't nil and the node isn't undefined)
18:59 TheWild ok, thanks
19:00 TheWild I'll just take a look how stuff already was done in creative
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19:05 TheWild https://github.com/minetest/minetest_gam​e/blob/master/mods/creative/init.lua#L99 - if not creative, why we're registering a dummy event?
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19:19 TheWild is this ok? https://github.com/beyondlimits/minetest_game/c​ommit/e80452385e4bf5c5662349923702ae9b111aef55
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20:34 swift110 hey guys
20:34 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello, swift110
20:42 rubenwardy <TheWild> https://github.com/minetest/minetest_gam​e/blob/master/mods/creative/init.lua#L99 - if not creative, why we're registering a dummy event?
20:42 rubenwardy what is the player runs /set creative_mode false?
20:42 rubenwardy **if
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20:44 TheWild Interesting that /set creative_mode true didn't update my gamemode at runtime
20:45 JohnnyComeL8ly I'll see if it is on another site. ;-)
20:45 TheWild also note that formspec is set once when player joins
20:45 rubenwardy weird
20:53 swift110 how are you JohnnyComeL8ly
20:53 JohnnyComeL8ly Better than I deserve.
20:57 JohnnyComeL8ly That is a phrase which I borrowed from a Christian friend... and it is the truth none the less.
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21:04 Calinou barrier01: https://lut.im/HUMbRzgSTy/CKq4XrAafpq2upYs.png
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21:10 LazyJ What effect, in game, does the liquids queue have?
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21:11 JohnnyComeL8ly Well, if it weren't there... MT wouldn't go to heaven. ;-)
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23:11 whtemple1959 hello, first thanks to Krock and VanessA for helping me get through some mod conflicts on my home server. now I have a question about the minetest.conf file. when I test on my pc single player and server mode a conf file is created in my .minetest folder. not so on my server. I created a conf file and then added the --config statement to the manual start of my minetestserver but still it does not sem to use the conf file. wh
23:12 est31 its not VanesaA its VanessaE
23:13 VanessaE ...sem to use the conf file. wh--
23:13 VanessaE you got cut off.
23:13 VanessaE that aside, you're doing the right thing though by creating and manually pointing to a config file
23:13 VanessaE that's how you're supposed to do it with a server.
23:14 VanessaE (it'll use minetest.conf if you don't, but that's bad practice)
23:17 VanessaE if it isn't using the file you specified, you probably just got the path wrong.  minetestserver --config /full/path/to/file.conf
23:17 VanessaE bbl
23:18 whtemple1959 VanessaE: I love my chubby little fingers...so since I have added /usr/games/minetest/textures/base/all and copied your wonderful textures to that folder why di your textures not appear when I join the server frrom my cliennt?
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