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bleak_fire_ |
hey how do the mailboxes work? it looks like things just disappear |
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bleak_fire_ |
the ones that come with homedecor |
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VanessaE_ |
bleak_fire_: items placed there are moved into a hidden inventory |
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VanessaE_ |
that only the owner can see |
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VanessaE_ |
so it's like a one-way delivery slot |
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waressearcher2 |
I wish real ones worked that way |
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swift110-phone |
Yep |
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bleak_fire_ |
how do you get it |
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bleak_fire_ |
the hidden inventory |
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Telesight |
Hello all, How long does it normally takes for a server to be announced in the server list? |
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waressearcher2 |
Telesight: it happens automatically ? no need to register and ask for any server approval ? |
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Telesight |
I have this in my debug.txt: 2015-10-13 02:35:11: ACTION[ServerThread]: Announcing to servers.minetest.net |
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Telesight |
So it should be announced I guess ... |
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Telesight |
No, I have not read that I need to register somewhere. |
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Telesight |
I assume server anouncement is a matter of minutes, or am I wrong ? |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Ada Lovelace Day! 😃 |
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waressearcher2 |
!g Linda Lovelace |
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MinetestBot |
waressearcher2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Lovelace |
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waressearcher2 |
Linda Lovelace, the most famous porn star of all time, there have to be her day too |
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Telesight |
Do I need permission to announce a server on the serverslist? |
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VanessaE |
no |
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Telesight |
hmm it is not listed, server_announce = true |
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VanessaE |
try, server_annouce = 1 |
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Telesight |
ok |
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Telesight |
Does it take a while to be listed? |
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CWz |
sometime yes. |
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Telesight |
Ok ... |
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CWz |
But you might want to reconsider having it listed. I too am a server admin as well as an owner of a server. I personally don't like the majority of the traffic that comes from there |
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Telesight |
No I fully understand ;-) |
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CWz |
But sadly it's hard to get traffic just from the forum |
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Telesight |
Interact is off ;-) |
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Calinou |
we're not at QuakeWorld level yet as for the server list (strong language): https://lut.im/glF7C6WW9e/zctAty6p6NIGnLo6.png |
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Calinou |
same for the number of empty servers :D |
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Calinou |
(I draw lines just like my PHP teacher does. Using the GIMP pencil tool) |
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Telesight |
Do I have to force curl when compiling? |
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Calinou |
if you forced it once, then you don't need to pass the setting anymore for cmake |
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Calinou |
CMake remembers previous settings |
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Telesight |
I did this : sudo cmake . -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 -DBUILD_SERVER=1 |
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Telesight |
Not this: sudo cmake . -DBUILD_CLIENT=0 -DBUILD_SERVER=1 -DENABLE_CURL=1 |
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VanessaE |
unless you're paranoid like me and you $(rm CMakeCache.txt ; make clean) before you build ;) |
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Calinou |
you should not use sudo to run cmake, ever. |
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Calinou |
only "make install" requires sudo. |
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CWz |
perhaps you didn't install libcurl or whatever it's called |
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Telesight |
I installed this: libcurl4-gnutls-dev |
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Calinou |
should be ok |
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Calinou |
I prefer openssl variant though |
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Telesight |
I did not: -DENABLE_CURL=1 |
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Telesight |
is that necessary ... |
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CWz |
Telesight: what kind of server are you planing to start? |
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Telesight |
It is already running;-) |
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Telesight |
0.4.13 |
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Telesight |
But now I want to publish it ... |
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waressearcher2 |
Telesight: do you use vps or run it on your home PC ? |
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Telesight |
A small server in home. No VPS |
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CWz |
i am pretty sure most server on the list are selfhosted from home |
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rubenwardy |
There are a lot of small servers that don't last long |
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rubenwardy |
made my non-serious players |
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rubenwardy |
VanessaE and OldCoder have the have the most, arguably, stable server. |
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rubenwardy |
I know that VanessaE doesn't self-host, she hires a dedi server somewhere |
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VanessaE |
in Canada to be exact. |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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* OldCoder |
loves his server with fervor |
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* OldCoder |
would hug it if he could |
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OldCoder |
John of MT used to say |
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OldCoder |
Servers are the life's best pleasures |
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OldCoder |
It is doubtless they are treasures |
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CWz |
^ are you ok? |
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* OldCoder |
is about to drift to sleep deep sleep he does reap |
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OldCoder |
In these moments the subconscious comes to the fore |
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OldCoder |
A different OldCoder knocks on the door |
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OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
This one likes to rhymes all the times |
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OldCoder |
Zzz |
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CWz |
so subconscious OldCoder is like conscious Zeno`. |
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CWz |
Fun. |
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* CWz |
misses Zeno` |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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CWz |
I think back in the days of early, VanessaE also used a VPS |
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VanessaE |
yep, for a while I used Linode |
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VanessaE |
before that, self-hosted |
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CWz |
When Host a server i still have selfhost. |
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CWz |
^ Wow really broke the grammar on that one |
| 11:56 |
CWz |
self-hosting works good. if you have a decent connection to the Internet and medium-low traffic |
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rubenwardy |
I used DO, then decided to move to a dedi that was only slightly more expensive, but never did |
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CWz |
DO? |
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rubenwardy |
digitalocean |
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rubenwardy |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-34506790 |
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Telesight |
Well, still no server listing ;-( |
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rubenwardy |
That happened to one of the halls at my university |
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rubenwardy |
not the one I'm staying at |
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VanessaE |
shit |
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rubenwardy |
some idiot was deep fat frying when it caught fire |
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VanessaE |
everyone oik?? |
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VanessaE |
-i |
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rubenwardy |
then turned up the extraction fan to try and put it out |
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rubenwardy |
which caused it to be sucked up into the roof, and spread |
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VanessaE |
jeez |
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rubenwardy |
yeah, nobody was hurt |
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rubenwardy |
but the top floor is gone, and the rest are flooded |
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rubenwardy |
170 students can't go back there |
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VanessaE |
do they have some way to house them? |
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rubenwardy |
Yeah, the other halls are taking them. There are some spare rooms, and room sharing. |
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CWz |
Almighty lummox strikes again |
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VanessaE |
good |
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CWz |
VanessaE: so how is the activity on VE-Building so far? |
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VanessaE |
meh |
| 12:14 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worldmaps/Building_World/ |
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VanessaE |
..../index.html |
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VanessaE |
a little here and there but not really taking off like I hoped. |
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CWz |
hmmm |
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CWz |
VanessaE: could use miracle and assistance. |
| 12:16 |
VanessaE |
I meant this link: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worldmaps/Building_World/map.html#22/-2194.00000/-2756.00000 |
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CWz |
or VanessaE you can try to do what did. |
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VanessaE |
? |
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CWz |
*i did |
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CWz |
which was nothing |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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Megaf_ |
[12:47:09] -*- OldCoder loves his server with fervor |
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Megaf_ |
[12:47:19] -*- OldCoder would hug it if he could |
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Megaf_ |
I would hug my server if I could too |
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Telesight |
No, unfortunately no server listing ... with cmake curl is detected ... |
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H-H-H |
can anyone remember the name of the mod that shows the name of the selected item in hotbar like in MC ? |
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Telesight |
Server_announce is a http request isnt it, so maybe a firewall is blocking it .. |
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nyje_ |
Telesight, I had the same issue when i brought the Elektra's Creative server up... |
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nyje_ |
turns out it was due to 'illegal' characters in the server name etc. |
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Telesight |
ok |
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nyje_ |
i removed brackets & punctuation and it announced just fine after that... |
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Telesight |
ah is * illegal? |
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Telesight |
TThanks i will try now |
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nyje_ |
not sure, have not checked the code, but i went alphanumeric & whitespace only, and all is now well |
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nyje_ |
NP, hope it helps |
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Telesight |
I will report ;-) |
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TheWild |
so quiet, so I'll present something I had fun with many years ago: ttp://blockcad.net/ |
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Xeprione |
hello |
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Xeprione |
hey rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
hi |
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Xeprione |
you know what a nice feeling is |
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Xeprione |
? |
| 16:49 |
Xeprione |
nice, yet frustrating* |
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Xeprione |
when you code so hard, the IDE becomes unstable :D |
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AndDT |
And crashes with no changes saved? |
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Xeprione |
no, it actually didn't :D |
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Xeprione |
it said that it has become unstable and i should save and exit |
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Xeprione |
which i did :D |
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AndDT |
what ide do you use? |
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Xeprione |
vs2013 :D |
| 16:51 |
AndDT |
oh my |
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Xeprione |
AndDT, if you're gonna hate on me... don't... |
| 16:52 |
Xeprione |
there's a reason i'm using vs |
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rubenwardy |
that's why |
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rubenwardy |
I use Atom |
| 16:53 |
rubenwardy |
<3 |
| 16:53 |
Xeprione |
everyone that attends the school i'm going to, gets about 200 microsoft products (software only) for free |
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SylvieLorxu |
I'm so glad I dropped Atom and went to vim |
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rubenwardy |
I tried Vim |
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rubenwardy |
No thanks |
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SylvieLorxu |
Xeprione: Same here, but Linux is still simply better. Microsoft needs to pay me instead :P |
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AndDT |
:) |
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nm0i |
Why they don't give meth for free at schools :( |
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SylvieLorxu |
rubenwardy: I did modify my config a bit: https://notabug.org/SylvieLorxu/.config#vimrc |
| 16:54 |
Xeprione |
but SylvieLorxu since i use windows for gaming etc (don't want to use wine, and most of my games aren't supporting linux yet) |
| 16:54 |
SylvieLorxu |
I made it slighly more atomy |
| 16:54 |
Xeprione |
i am planning on installing linux alongside windows tho |
| 16:54 |
SylvieLorxu |
Xeprione: I only play Free Software games anyway, those tend to run on Linux :P |
| 16:54 |
Xeprione |
true |
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rubenwardy |
I dual Windows alongside Xubuntu |
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SylvieLorxu |
On that note, Unvanquished is pretty cool |
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Xeprione |
it's just that i use steam for my gaming habits :D |
| 16:55 |
SylvieLorxu |
http://www.unvanquished.net/ |
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rubenwardy |
I would ditch Windows, but 1. testing my programs for porting. 2. playing games |
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Xeprione |
exactly |
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Xeprione |
because windows is more known, people don't tend to release as many games on linux as they do on windows... |
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AndDT |
As for me it's more interesting to compile games (/me uses slackware) than play them :) |
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SylvieLorxu |
Gentoo here :P |
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Xeprione |
it's just how game development (for bigger companies) works |
| 16:56 |
SylvieLorxu |
I don't feel I'm missing out by not playing games from big companies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIXkRXYbKaI |
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rubenwardy |
a lot of games aren't even on desktop :( |
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Xeprione |
SylvieLorxu: you don't know what a good pc game is until you've played the original half-life :3 |
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Xeprione |
which isn't free (technically), but is worth the 10euros |
| 16:57 |
SylvieLorxu |
I did play that |
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Xeprione |
well? |
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Xeprione |
did you like it? |
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SylvieLorxu |
Companies don't make them like that anymore |
| 16:57 |
SylvieLorxu |
The original Half Life was actually good |
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Xeprione |
how about 2, 2e1 and 2e2? |
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SylvieLorxu |
2 was still pretty okay, but lacked the atmosphere 1 had |
| 16:58 |
SylvieLorxu |
The episodes were really too short to take seriously |
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AndDT |
2 was first half-life I ever saw |
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rubenwardy |
still though: http://store.steampowered.com/search/?term=#sort_by=_ASC&os=linux&page=1 |
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Xeprione |
btw SylvieLorxu you know what i recomend you? |
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Xeprione |
Black Mesa |
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rubenwardy |
half-life is on Linux |
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Xeprione |
http://store.steampowered.com/app/362890/ |
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SylvieLorxu |
Did they ever release that? lol |
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AndDT |
yup |
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Xeprione |
it's still in beta... |
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SylvieLorxu |
Source code or GTFO :P |
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Xeprione |
yeah, ok |
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AndDT |
it lacks few last chapters |
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Xeprione |
not gonna try to change the way you think |
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AndDT |
I wait for Underhell for linux |
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Xeprione |
just know, that money will always be a necessity... |
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SylvieLorxu |
That's completely unrelated |
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Calinou |
the GoldSrc/Source "SDK" (probably not full sourec code) are available, but under a non-commercial license |
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Calinou |
this probably does not include game logic |
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AndDT |
devs say they are porting it to source 2013 which runs on linux |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
(although if you pay, Valve says you can access their game logic.) |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
(probably under NDA.) |
| 17:00 |
SylvieLorxu |
RedHat sells Open Source stuff almost exclusively, they make 1.5 billion USD a year |
| 17:00 |
Xeprione |
so don't start thinking, that there are going to be AAA game-of-the-decade with source code available |
| 17:00 |
SylvieLorxu |
Open Source != No money |
| 17:00 |
Xeprione |
sells |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
Xeprione, Doom 3 is open source. :) |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
it's an AAA game |
| 17:00 |
Calinou |
Wolf:ET too |
| 17:01 |
Xeprione |
calinou, every rule has an exception or two |
| 17:01 |
AndDT |
iod3 on github |
| 17:01 |
Calinou |
(still played by hundreds of players :P) |
| 17:01 |
Calinou |
AndDT, I prefer RBDOOM-3-BFG |
| 17:01 |
Calinou |
has soft shadows |
| 17:01 |
AndDT |
Calinou: I play doom 1/2 via zandronum |
| 17:01 |
AndDT |
and zdaemon |
| 17:01 |
SylvieLorxu |
Oh, Doom 3 looks interesting |
| 17:01 |
Calinou |
Freedom with Odamex here |
| 17:01 |
AndDT |
Last releases of zdaemon runs nicely via wine |
| 17:01 |
Calinou |
why Wine? O_o |
| 17:01 |
AndDT |
odamex has no players |
| 17:02 |
AndDT |
because zdaemon is win32 port of zdoom 1.23b |
| 17:02 |
Calinou |
zdoom's proprietary :P |
| 17:02 |
AndDT |
um, no |
| 17:02 |
AndDT |
But it uses fmod |
| 17:02 |
Calinou |
it is derived from Doom Source License'd code |
| 17:02 |
Calinou |
not the GPL code |
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| 17:03 |
AndDT |
I'm not a pro in that licensing stuff |
| 17:03 |
Calinou |
I am :) |
| 17:04 |
Xeprione |
i'm happy i made this chatroom alive again :D |
| 17:04 |
Xeprione |
btw, does anybody use Gitter? |
| 17:04 |
Xeprione |
http://gitter.im |
| 17:04 |
Xeprione |
!title |
| 17:04 |
MinetestBot |
Xeprione: Gitter — Where developers come to talk. |
| 17:04 |
Xeprione |
my teacher just mentioned it |
| 17:04 |
Calinou |
proprietary :( better use IRC, or one of the libre hipster chat platforms: Rocket.Chat, Mattermost, Zulip... |
| 17:04 |
Calinou |
https://zulip.org/ |
| 17:04 |
Calinou |
this was recently liberated after acquisition by Dropbox |
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| 17:05 |
Xeprione |
who cares if it's propertary? |
| 17:05 |
AndDT |
irc one love |
| 17:05 |
Xeprione |
it's free |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
it's free, but it's not free. :) |
| 17:05 |
Xeprione |
so, what's the difference? you can't see the source code, big problem there... |
| 17:05 |
Calinou |
or, like we should say, it's gratis, but it's not libre. |
| 17:05 |
AndDT |
free as a beer |
| 17:05 |
AndDT |
but not as a speech |
| 17:06 |
Xeprione |
then tell me, what's not free (as in free speech) about it? |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
no source code, no ability to self-host, proprietary JavaScript |
| 17:06 |
comradmax |
i just puched a chicken, and it died, but so did the cow that was next to it |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
comradmax, in Minetest, death is contagious. :) |
| 17:06 |
Xeprione |
but Calinou do you really need it? |
| 17:06 |
Calinou |
it's a matter of "what if" |
| 17:06 |
comradmax |
Calinou: aparently:) |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
what if I want to host my own server, because I have no reliable Internet connection? what if it shuts down? |
| 17:07 |
SylvieLorxu |
^ |
| 17:07 |
SylvieLorxu |
Why depend on others if you don't have to? |
| 17:07 |
Calinou |
random startups often fail, and shut down their services without warning |
| 17:07 |
Xeprione |
first let it happen |
| 17:07 |
Xeprione |
then worry about it |
| 17:07 |
SylvieLorxu |
lol... |
| 17:08 |
SylvieLorxu |
"There's a wolf roaming around the streets, shouldn't we move it somewhere safe so nobody gets bitten?" "Nah, don't worry about it until it happens" |
| 17:08 |
Xeprione |
anyway, hey anybody wanna help me recreate some sprites from my old game? |
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| 17:08 |
Xeprione |
SylvieLorxu: that's pretty different... |
| 17:09 |
Xeprione |
it's like an oranges to apples comparisson... |
| 17:09 |
SylvieLorxu |
That's basically the same thing. You're choosing to take unnecessary risks |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
there are competing libre services, why not use them? |
| 17:09 |
Xeprione |
well, you can recover easily from one |
| 17:09 |
Xeprione |
whereas from the other... |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
also, IRC has been proven to scale well to hundreds (if not thousands) of users in a single channel. |
| 17:09 |
SylvieLorxu |
Or you can just make sure you don't have to recover at all :P |
| 17:09 |
Xeprione |
if it goes down, just switch |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
are there Slack rooms with 1,500 users that work well? :) |
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| 17:10 |
rubenwardy |
Just tried Unvanquished. Interesting, but confusing |
| 17:11 |
Xeprione |
ok Calinou, let's play some "what if"... what if you make something that has been done before (that is open-source), but yours is better (closed-source)... would you like it if nobody even tried it, just because of that one small thing? |
| 17:11 |
comradmax |
plz stop feeling the startup trolls by using their freshman year chat clients. IRC is all you need |
| 17:12 |
SylvieLorxu |
That's a silly what if |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
Xeprione, I would not make "closed source" software. :) |
| 17:12 |
Xeprione |
well, what if you did? |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
the only case where I might is when I'll be hired as part of a company... |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
but then I wouldn't have the rights on it |
| 17:12 |
Xeprione |
exactly |
| 17:13 |
Xeprione |
but isn't github a company? |
| 17:13 |
SylvieLorxu |
What if you use a proprietary chat system and it goes down. Would you like it? |
| 17:13 |
SylvieLorxu |
Like, this stuff makes no sense |
| 17:13 |
Xeprione |
yes, because then i could bitch about it |
| 17:13 |
Calinou |
you don't assign copyright to GitHub when you publish software to it |
| 17:13 |
Calinou |
in fact, you grant them a very limited license only |
| 17:13 |
Calinou |
(you could host proprietary software on GitHub; it's actually done quite often, even publicly) |
| 17:13 |
SylvieLorxu |
Well, that explains why you prefer proprietary clients, you like being in pain |
| 17:13 |
SylvieLorxu |
To each their own |
| 17:13 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013 |
| 17:13 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013/blob/master/LICENSE |
| 17:13 |
Calinou |
:) |
| 17:14 |
SylvieLorxu |
rubenwardy: It's not that confusing, it just needs more players :P |
| 17:14 |
Xeprione |
ok, let's stop it then... (thank Calinou, didn't know i needed that before i got it) |
| 17:16 |
Teckla |
Easy to use trumps *everything*, including, but not limited to, gratis and/or libre software. |
| 17:16 |
Xeprione |
exactly |
| 17:17 |
Xeprione |
it all depends on the end-user |
| 17:17 |
Xeprione |
so, let's just agree to treat this "issue" as something similar to the pc-console war |
| 17:17 |
Xeprione |
or the windows-mac-linux war |
| 17:17 |
Calinou |
there are ethics to everything, even about things you don't think about |
| 17:17 |
Calinou |
like... software |
| 17:17 |
Calinou |
the only ethical OS is GNU/Linux; neither OS X nor Windows are secure nor private |
| 17:17 |
comradmax |
Calinou: what os are you running for the daily? |
| 17:17 |
Teckla |
Calinou: Normal people do not care about "software ethics" |
| 17:18 |
Calinou |
comradmax, Fedora |
| 17:18 |
Teckla |
Only a minority of geeks |
| 17:18 |
Xeprione |
"Some like it small. That's fine, understandable. But I like it big" |
| 17:18 |
Xeprione |
http://img.pandawhale.com/123051-Neil-DeGrasse-Tyson-I-like-it-BGKE.gif |
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comradmax |
oh, snap, that's my boy! http://i.imgur.com/07toDcJ.png |
| 17:19 |
Xeprione |
:D |
| 17:19 |
comradmax |
and the one that started it all: http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0drutWPug1qkoo4k.jpg |
| 17:20 |
comradmax |
"Physics, son." |
| 17:23 |
Calinou |
700 posts on Phoronix forums! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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| 17:28 |
Xeprione |
hey Calinou |
| 17:28 |
Xeprione |
guess what |
| 17:28 |
Xeprione |
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I just found where I made an error in my code ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
| 17:29 |
comradmax |
does the code have anything to do with mt? |
| 17:30 |
Xeprione |
yes |
| 17:30 |
Xeprione |
both mt and my project are written in c++ |
| 17:30 |
Xeprione |
but that's probably the only thing in common :D |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
better rewrite them to Java |
| 17:31 |
* Calinou |
runs |
| 17:31 |
comradmax |
java was the best language before javascript took over the world |
| 17:31 |
* Xeprione |
follows Calinou |
| 17:33 |
Xeprione |
HURRY! http://www.pcgamer.com/free-steam-key-encore-giveaway-five-games-up-for-grabs/ |
| 17:33 |
Xeprione |
!title |
| 17:33 |
MinetestBot |
Xeprione: Free Steam key encore giveaway: five games up for grabs - PC Gamer |
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| 17:35 |
comradmax |
lol, you have to have fb account to get this:) |
| 17:35 |
Xeprione |
comradmax: it isn't rocket science to create one... |
| 17:35 |
comradmax |
it must have been rocket science to not get one |
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| 17:36 |
Xeprione |
no, it's just that i need fb to chat with friends :D |
| 17:36 |
Xeprione |
that don't use irc |
| 17:37 |
comradmax |
i understand |
| 17:38 |
Xeprione |
but seriously, who doesn't use facebook? |
| 17:38 |
Xeprione |
even my granny uses it (legit) |
| 17:38 |
* comradmax |
does not have a single social account, except random ones he makes/steals |
| 17:38 |
nm0i |
I'm vegan. |
| 17:39 |
comradmax |
random one for dev testing and what not |
| 17:39 |
Xeprione |
ok, ok, ok... |
| 17:39 |
Xeprione |
but why not? |
| 17:39 |
Calinou |
privacy, security... |
| 17:39 |
comradmax |
im fully commited to the google toilet tho, with all my gmail/drive/stuff |
| 17:39 |
Calinou |
and both Facebook and Twitter are proprietary :) |
| 17:39 |
Calinou |
comradmax, switch to DuckDuckGo, ownCloud ASAP ;) |
| 17:39 |
Xeprione |
i use onedrive :P |
| 17:39 |
Calinou |
you may be interested in https://github.com/10se1ucgo/DisableWinTracking |
| 17:40 |
Xeprione |
*grabs popcorn* |
| 17:40 |
Xeprione |
i use windows 8.1 |
| 17:40 |
Xeprione |
not 10 |
| 17:40 |
Xeprione |
i could use 10, but wont |
| 17:40 |
comradmax |
i have started to use DuckDuck here and there, but havent made the total switch off the google. i might try that cloud thing, havent actually heard of it:) |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
http://owncloud.org/ |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
you need a provider for it too (paid or gratis) |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
http://openmailbox.org/ has 1 GB gratis, along with e-mail |
| 17:41 |
Xeprione |
what if i told you... |
| 17:41 |
comradmax |
nice |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
of course you can rent a VPS and set it up yourself... |
| 17:41 |
Xeprione |
i have 1TB of storage on onedrive |
| 17:42 |
comradmax |
onedrive, that's the hotmail cloud? |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
it's owned by Microsoft indeed |
| 17:42 |
Xeprione |
microsoft's cloud service |
| 17:42 |
Xeprione |
yeah |
| 17:43 |
Xeprione |
got it with Office 365 |
| 17:43 |
Xeprione |
:P |
| 17:43 |
comradmax |
that's the best advice you gave so far |
| 17:43 |
Xeprione |
btw, did i mention my school is a ms partner? |
| 17:43 |
Calinou |
my uni too |
| 17:43 |
Calinou |
doesn't mean I use their version of Office... |
| 17:43 |
Xeprione |
i do :P |
| 17:43 |
Xeprione |
because my school doesn't use odt formats |
| 17:43 |
comradmax |
i've used office 365, it's a killer deal for startups |
| 17:43 |
Xeprione |
:D |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
we're taught Office and Adobe, that's great for a public school / |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
/s |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
and they do pay for the licenses |
| 17:44 |
comradmax |
i bought someone's uni Office for MAC for $50 :) |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
(but the students don't, on their laptops :D) |
| 17:45 |
comradmax |
Calinou: your public university paid for you to own your own copies of Adobe? |
| 17:45 |
comradmax |
is it the CC? |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
no, they paid for their copies of Adobe CS6 (they think CC is too expensive) on their computers. |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
their computers also still run Windows 7. |
| 17:45 |
Calinou |
thankfully, you can use your own laptop |
| 17:46 |
Xeprione |
all of the computers here use windows 8.1 |
| 17:46 |
comradmax |
are they all switching to 10? |
| 17:46 |
Xeprione |
and the slowest computers a have an intel core2 duo with 4gb of ram |
| 17:46 |
Xeprione |
but the fastest have an i7 with 16gb of ram |
| 17:46 |
comradmax |
wow core2 |
| 17:46 |
comradmax |
not even duo? |
| 17:47 |
Calinou |
I'm not sure if they'll switch to 10 |
| 17:47 |
Xeprione |
I SAID DUO! |
| 17:47 |
comradmax |
ah, you said duo, wtf am i reading:) |
| 17:47 |
Calinou |
those computers don't have a SSD, so they feel slow |
| 17:47 |
Xeprione |
the c2duo-s in the library computers only :D |
| 17:48 |
comradmax |
the advances in CPU speed have caused all software quality to decrease |
| 17:48 |
Xeprione |
yeah :D |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
I don't think software quality has decreased |
| 17:48 |
Calinou |
btw https://cloud.githubusercontent.com/assets/2623954/9098640/f15e22b4-3b7f-11e5-9496-12b6d811f0ea.jpg |
| 17:49 |
Xeprione |
btw, you know what my game blank runs on one of the i7-16gb computers? |
| 17:49 |
Xeprione |
about 3000fps |
| 17:49 |
comradmax |
win2k and word 98 ran faster and more stable than whatever i use now |
| 17:49 |
Xeprione |
whereas at home, it' about 450 |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
I could get 29000 FPS at glxgears once |
| 17:49 |
comradmax |
win7/8/10, any of the new offices |
| 17:49 |
comradmax |
lol |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
Office 2013 has never crashed for me, same for Adobe CC 2015 |
| 17:49 |
Xeprione |
well, these rigs don't have graphics cards in them |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
(forced to use it for uni... :() |
| 17:49 |
Xeprione |
except for the built-in ones |
| 17:50 |
Xeprione |
calinou, if it's free and better, don't complain |
| 17:50 |
Xeprione |
even if it isn't free in general, but is to you, still don't complain |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
I should complain. |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
it's not right :) |
| 17:50 |
Xeprione |
it's like complaining about a piece of candy that was given to you for free |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
public funds used to fund proprietary software... |
| 17:51 |
Xeprione |
it's not your money |
| 17:51 |
Xeprione |
you're not paying for it |
| 17:51 |
Xeprione |
take what they give |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
it's my parents' taxes :P |
| 17:51 |
comradmax |
lol |
| 17:51 |
Xeprione |
it's everybody's taxes |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
they probably pay $50k+ per year for all software licenses |
| 17:51 |
Calinou |
it's a lot of money |
| 17:51 |
Xeprione |
but it's not your money |
| 17:52 |
Xeprione |
the rich have their own rules |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
also I would rather learn free software at school, it would mean education would do what it's supposed to do |
| 17:52 |
Calinou |
teach concepts rather than tools, teach "do this however you want" rather than "don't share!!" |
| 17:53 |
comradmax |
Calinou: there are schools like that, but most ppl only dream of getting in. |
| 17:53 |
Xeprione |
they teach you with the "premium" tools, because they want to |
| 17:53 |
comradmax |
mit |
| 17:53 |
comradmax |
etc |
| 17:53 |
Xeprione |
wait, mit uses free software? |
| 17:53 |
Xeprione |
who would've known :D |
| 17:53 |
Xeprione |
but yeah, i dream of getting to mit :P |
| 17:53 |
comradmax |
yea, they have their own license and all:) |
| 17:54 |
Calinou |
MIT is known for publishing proprietary software too, even though the name of the dreaded "MIT license" |
| 17:54 |
Calinou |
(which really is the Expat or X11 license) |
| 17:54 |
comradmax |
mit is where you get copies of GNU |
| 17:54 |
Xeprione |
:D |
| 17:54 |
Xeprione |
mit is where you have to fall out to get successful :D |
| 17:54 |
Calinou |
there is a school in France that teaches mostly free software, but it's too far away |
| 17:54 |
Calinou |
also not very active IIRC |
| 17:56 |
* Calinou |
builds Urho3D every so often. |
| 17:56 |
Calinou |
NinjaSnowWar is fun :) |
| 17:56 |
Calinou |
(it's the demo game that's included with it) |
| 17:56 |
Calinou |
you're a ninja, throw snowballs at other ninjas to kill them |
| 17:56 |
Calinou |
can be played in multiplayer too |
| 17:56 |
Xeprione |
btw, calinou, what if... |
| 17:56 |
comradmax |
sounds like the original south park fps |
| 17:56 |
Xeprione |
what if you would only learn using free software |
| 17:56 |
Xeprione |
and then get hired to a company that doesn't use free software |
| 17:57 |
Xeprione |
how would you know how to use that software? |
| 17:57 |
Calinou |
learning on the spot :P |
| 17:57 |
comradmax |
they will teach your their soft |
| 17:57 |
comradmax |
no one uses the same stack |
| 17:57 |
Calinou |
also, yeah, it's their job. if they use private software, they should use private means of education |
| 17:58 |
Xeprione |
oh ok... i didn't know that, because i haven't had a job... |
| 17:58 |
Xeprione |
:'( |
| 17:59 |
Xeprione |
Calinou: best open-source license for software intended for non-commercial use |
| 17:59 |
Xeprione |
go |
| 18:00 |
Calinou |
none, because all open source licenses allow commercial usage. |
| 18:00 |
Calinou |
that said, you can discourage commercial usage by using GPLv3... |
| 18:00 |
comradmax |
how about http://www.wtfpl.net/ |
| 18:00 |
Calinou |
but in any case, you can't (and shouldn't) forbid it |
| 18:00 |
Xeprione |
that's a public license |
| 18:00 |
Calinou |
long essay on why: http://freedomdefined.org/Licenses/NC |
| 18:00 |
Xeprione |
hey, didn't cc not allow it? |
| 18:01 |
Xeprione |
like, in certain forms of the license |
| 18:01 |
Calinou |
they do, but I think it's wrong :) they should have scrapped it |
| 18:02 |
comradmax |
software cant be copyrighted, because thoughts cant be copyrighted |
| 18:02 |
Xeprione |
nope, gonna use that |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
(they considered scrapping NC with version 4.0 of the licenses, but ultimately didn't because they thought people would keep using version 3.0) |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
so I urge everyone to not use NC clause. |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
I've talked to dozens of persons about the issue; not all of them agree, but when they do, it's great :) |
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Xeprione |
i want my "game" to be fun to play, free, open-source, not somebody else's income and i want it to be something other people can learn from |
| 18:03 |
comradmax |
gpl |
| 18:03 |
Calinou |
then use GPLv3; it'll be good enough in preventing unethical exploitation |
| 18:03 |
Calinou |
since people won't be allowed to sell it without providing full source code |
| 18:03 |
Calinou |
(and likewise, they won't be allowed to sell it and forbid further distribution) |
| 18:03 |
Xeprione |
i don't want it to be selled at all |
| 18:04 |
Calinou |
even communists aren't against selling, you know :) |
| 18:04 |
comradmax |
Xeprione: you will have to sue |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
you can use DMCA |
| 18:05 |
Calinou |
as an alternative to lawsuits |
| 18:05 |
comradmax |
example: i put on super-proprietary license, and no source. someone decompiles and starts selling as their own. it's as clear of a violation as anything. the only way to prove that is to sue them and win... |
| 18:05 |
Xeprione |
well, at least if i don't allow any kind of selling, even if they do sell it with source code, i can still sue the shit out of them |
| 18:06 |
comradmax |
Xeprione: you still have to sue them tho |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
if you do forbid selling, I sure won't play your game anyway :) |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
and it wouldn't be open source anymore |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
this is open source: http://opensource.org/osd |
| 18:08 |
comradmax |
anything other than GPL is trying to sell lies to ppl who cannot do better themselves |
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| 18:08 |
Calinou |
there are valid reasons for picking non-GPL licenses |
| 18:08 |
Calinou |
broader compatibility, less complexity |
| 18:09 |
Xeprione |
Calinou, do you think id software would like me if i would sell doom 3? |
| 18:09 |
Xeprione |
if they forbid it, it isn't open source |
| 18:09 |
Xeprione |
that's what you said, right? |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
you're not allowed to because of the proprietary assets |
| 18:09 |
Calinou |
(the assets aren't "open source", which is quite bad too) |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
but... if you make your own standalone game based on Doom 3 source code, you can sell it, provided you follow the terms of the GPL. |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
(if you don't want to follow the terms of the GPL, buy an exception from id Software) |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
I think that ultimately, assets should be libre too |
| 18:10 |
Calinou |
but it's a separate concern |
| 18:11 |
Xeprione |
but hey, Calinou... guess what? |
| 18:11 |
Xeprione |
becuase this game is free, i won't get anything if you play it (except from knowing somebody played it) and neither will i lose something if you don't. |
| 18:12 |
comradmax |
the only way to win is not to play |
| 18:12 |
Xeprione |
i've made 4 games and only showed off 1 of them to a bigger audience (Pixel Bird, audience=mt community) |
| 18:12 |
Xeprione |
i make them just for the fun of making them |
| 18:13 |
Xeprione |
i don't care if people play them, i liked making them and that's what matters |
| 18:13 |
comradmax |
making a good game is like making a ferrari |
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comradmax |
its hard |
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Calinou |
I think people should not be forced to publish their software, but if they do, they should give them enough rights to not be dependent on the software author... |
| 18:13 |
Xeprione |
never said it was a good game |
| 18:13 |
Xeprione |
the journey was great, though |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
the GNU people never said everyone should always publish their software, even if 10-line-long :) |
| 18:14 |
comradmax |
i never said it wasnt, i am inspired to work hard on my skills to eventually make those ferraris:) |
| 18:14 |
Xeprione |
exactly :D |
| 18:15 |
Xeprione |
like right now, i'm remaking Pixel Bird in c++ to improve my c++ and OpenGL skills, so i can make a bigger game |
| 18:15 |
comradmax |
nice |
| 18:15 |
Xeprione |
right now, my main concern is c++ |
| 18:15 |
Xeprione |
opengl i've used when using java |
| 18:15 |
Xeprione |
btw, comradmax, you wanna see what the 3d artist in my team is capable of doing in one day? :d |
| 18:16 |
rom1504 |
10-line-long softwares are great :p |
| 18:16 |
Xeprione |
i bet you'll be impressed |
| 18:16 |
comradmax |
sure:) |
| 18:16 |
Xeprione |
rom1504: even better if they do awesome stuff |
| 18:16 |
Xeprione |
like break the computer it's running on |
| 18:16 |
Xeprione |
comradmax: sec |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
today I did 5 points on the Android 5 Flappy Bird |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
my best score |
| 18:16 |
comradmax |
lol, i never seen that game, but is that pretty low? |
| 18:16 |
rom1504 |
stop now or you'll get banned for cheating Calinou |
| 18:17 |
Xeprione |
https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/t31.0-8/11232719_490877231091836_1435835497589098531_o.jpg |
| 18:17 |
nm0i |
Done with modding weather. http://me0w.net/pit/1444759760 http://me0w.net/pit/1444759735 http://me0w.net/pit/1444759748 |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
comradmax, it's the one that's hidden as easter egg in Android 5 |
| 18:17 |
nm0i |
(Has sound, thunderstorm has lightning) |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
in "About this phone", tap the "Android version" box several times quickly |
| 18:17 |
Xeprione |
no, Calinou, it's a rage-game |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
you'll see a lollipop appear |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
hold it for a while, then release |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
the game will start (with randomly chosen mood and direction) |
| 18:17 |
Xeprione |
i use 4.2.2 (kitkat) |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
you mean 4.4.2? |
| 18:17 |
Calinou |
4.2 is Jelly Bean |
| 18:18 |
Xeprione |
not sure |
| 18:18 |
Xeprione |
then yes |
| 18:18 |
Xeprione |
yeah, 4.4.2, my bad :D |
| 18:18 |
Xeprione |
first it shows a rotating 2 |
| 18:18 |
comradmax |
very cool scene. but i dont believe it's created in "1 day" |
| 18:19 |
Xeprione |
he did |
| 18:19 |
comradmax |
unless 1 day = 24.9hrs |
| 18:19 |
comradmax |
or most of the model assets already existed before the day started:) |
| 18:19 |
Xeprione |
not sure |
| 18:19 |
Xeprione |
he told me he did it in a day, and i trust him |
| 18:20 |
Xeprione |
:P |
| 18:20 |
comradmax |
sounds like you're a pm, no offense |
| 18:20 |
Xeprione |
a pm? |
| 18:20 |
comradmax |
project manager :) |
| 18:20 |
Xeprione |
kind of |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
1 day = 24.0000000002 hours |
| 18:20 |
Xeprione |
i'm the manager, and also the lead-coder |
| 18:20 |
Calinou |
calculated using Intel processor |
| 18:20 |
comradmax |
lol |
| 18:21 |
Xeprione |
kind of the only coder, cause the other guy is russian and doesn't do shit regarding the project :D |
| 18:21 |
comradmax |
Calinou: where did you get an original pentium chip?? |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
no idea |
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| 18:21 |
comradmax |
im ukrainian, so i can totally relay to that |
| 18:21 |
Xeprione |
an original pentium chip? |
| 18:21 |
comradmax |
we dont do work |
| 18:21 |
Xeprione |
i have a pentium d |
| 18:21 |
Xeprione |
:P |
| 18:22 |
Xeprione |
comradmax: should i kick him out? :D |
| 18:22 |
comradmax |
no, figure out how to motivate him |
| 18:22 |
comradmax |
then your pm transformation will be complete |
| 18:22 |
Xeprione |
i've told him at least 13 times to at least show some enthusiasm, told him just to make a simple thing... |
| 18:22 |
Xeprione |
didn't |
| 18:22 |
Xeprione |
oh ok |
| 18:23 |
Xeprione |
i better start sending him rublas :D |
| 18:23 |
Xeprione |
a rubla a week :D |
| 18:23 |
comradmax |
ok, this is management gold, but i'll give it for free: give him a challenge. not a callenge for you, something that's a challenge for him. |
| 18:23 |
Xeprione |
ruble* |
| 18:23 |
Xeprione |
ok |
| 18:23 |
Xeprione |
i know what :O |
| 18:23 |
Xeprione |
a lua-cpp interface |
| 18:24 |
Xeprione |
like calinou suggested |
| 18:24 |
comradmax |
and tell him "comradmax called bs on the whole scene in one day story..." |
| 18:24 |
Xeprione |
ok :D |
| 18:24 |
Xeprione |
but doesn't matter, he made it |
| 18:24 |
Xeprione |
and i like it |
| 18:24 |
Xeprione |
but like i was saying, so one could code some of the game logic without compiling it |
| 18:25 |
Xeprione |
https://github.com/RagnarLaud/pixelbird2 |
| 18:25 |
Xeprione |
gonna upload the code in a sec |
| 18:26 |
comradmax |
is this your game? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.parktocube.PixelBird&hl=en |
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| 18:33 |
Xeprione |
no |
| 18:34 |
Xeprione |
omg, it's a ripoff (i think) |
| 18:34 |
Xeprione |
i made my game in 2013 |
| 18:34 |
Xeprione |
:O |
| 18:34 |
Xeprione |
but bye |
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* CWz |
wonder why some server owners put their names/usernames in their server names. Is it like a vanity plate of sorts? |
| 18:49 |
rom1504 |
if you join that server, then you belong to the owner |
| 18:49 |
est31 |
ha |
| 18:49 |
rom1504 |
(hmm, doesn't it work like that :p ?) |
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est31 |
CWz, for a long time, minetest was called minetest-c55. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Hello, y'all! |
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shadowzone |
hello |
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swift110 |
how are you guys |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm just dandy. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Man... some people have some interesting names.... |
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Xeprione |
hello |
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Xeprione |
who here lives in the states? |
| 20:42 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I live in a stable state... and I have a right frame of mind. |
| 20:42 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm kidding.... ;-) I live in TX |
| 20:43 |
Xeprione |
nice :D |
| 20:43 |
Xeprione |
well |
| 20:43 |
Xeprione |
our school just got a project... |
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Xeprione |
an exchange-student program... |
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Xeprione |
and we are given a chance to study in the states for one year, 100% free |
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Xeprione |
flight, living, all the works |
| 20:44 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Well, whatcha gonna do about it? |
| 20:44 |
Xeprione |
we also get money for other shit |
| 20:44 |
Xeprione |
what am I GONNA DO ABOUT IT? |
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Xeprione |
pass |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Groan... don't spend it on crap.... |
| 20:45 |
Xeprione |
but not rly, imma take a chance |
| 20:45 |
Xeprione |
i have to apply, write three essays... |
| 20:45 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
That's the spirit! |
| 20:45 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Well, that doesn't sound so fun, but it should be worth it. |
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Xeprione |
if i get to the semi-finals, i get asked questions and shit |
| 20:46 |
Xeprione |
it will be :D |
| 20:46 |
Xeprione |
because a lot of my close friends that visit estonia every year live in the states |
| 20:47 |
Xeprione |
im gonna have to ask the teacher that sent the email about it tomorrow |
| 20:48 |
Xeprione |
because i would have to fill out an ONLINE form... |
| 20:48 |
Xeprione |
but the email contained no links |
| 20:48 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
OH no. |
| 20:48 |
Xeprione |
and it's due 16th |
| 20:48 |
Xeprione |
:O |
| 20:48 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Those are intimidating to me... (not joking). |
| 20:48 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Where do you live? |
| 20:48 |
Xeprione |
in Estonia |
| 20:48 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
Oh, sorry. |
| 20:48 |
Xeprione |
find Finland, Sweden, Latvia and Russia |
| 20:49 |
Xeprione |
then you'll find Estonia |
| 20:49 |
Xeprione |
but anyway, imma play some cs |
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Xeprione |
bye |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
My dad's Slovenian but was born in US. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
He didn't know how to speak English when he came to school... the teacher had thought he was belligerent. |
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rubenwardy |
An auto test was failing because I forgot to return true to pass it, and so an undefined value was returned |
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rubenwardy |
thank you gcc for not warning me |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Well, you have to be 2% smarter than the object you're working with.... (My dad gives that proverbial statement frequently.) ;-P |
| 21:46 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
But, if you're using a binary blob... then you don't have the same responsibility... for there's no way to get the source code for it. |
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rubenwardy |
what I'm working on: https://cdn.pbrd.co/images/1m1YEm6o.png |
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Amaz |
Atom :D |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I'm not remotely familiar with C++. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Power to you, my friend. ;-) |
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rubenwardy |
It's a project to learn C++ UDP sockets |
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rubenwardy |
I'm aiming to make a 2D world made up of tiles which players can walk on, top down |
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rubenwardy |
the follow on from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTocos_0kFo |
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comradmax |
http://www.pasteall.org/pic/94124 |
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rubenwardy |
awesome |
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comradmax |
$1 |
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comradmax |
at the dollar store |
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