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00:07 MinetestBot [git] Rui914 -> minetest/minetest: Localize digprop_err function 7f2cefa http://git.io/vCWaU (2015-10-12T02:05:11+02:00)
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00:35 Silcantar anybody here?
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00:40 nm0i Maybe.
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01:03 Clouds Could someone assist me please? I'm trying to use a formspecs button to open a different formspecs.
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01:35 JohnnyComeL8ly Hey, guys and gals, my sister has problems with the new 0.4.13 MT  when shaders are enabled blocks turn different colors; the "frame" for obisdian glass for example turns different neon(?) shades.
01:36 JohnnyComeL8ly Sorry... it was actually streak-free glass.
01:37 est31 which opengl version does your sister have?
01:37 JohnnyComeL8ly Just a sec.
01:38 Clouds Still waiting if anyone has time. :)
01:39 est31 Clouds, what precisely do you wonder about
01:39 est31 e.g. how to execute some lua code if a formspec button is pressed
01:40 Clouds yes im trying to use 1 formspec button to execute another formspec.
01:40 est31 or which lua code to use to show formspec
01:41 Clouds ik how to show a formspec i just cant figure out how to use the "name" part of the button to fetch another formspec
01:41 JohnnyComeL8ly Hey, est31, it is using OpenGL 2.1.0
01:42 Clouds example = "button[.25,9.5;2,1,1.5;home;Home]" how do i use home to open a different formspec
01:42 est31 JohnnyComeL8ly, well, I guess thats too old for shaders. perhaps there is an opengl 3.x driver around for that hw
01:43 JohnnyComeL8ly X4500 GMA
01:43 est31 Clouds, this might answer your question http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_mod​ding_book/chapters/formspecs.html
01:43 JohnnyComeL8ly I'll look into it.
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01:43 Clouds http://paste.ubuntu.com/12760605/ <--- if this helps any
01:44 JohnnyComeL8ly The thing is, est31, that It was working with 0.4.13....
01:45 est31 JohnnyComeL8ly, perhaps try to disable some shaders?
01:45 est31 perhaps that helps
01:45 est31 sorry but the guy who made the shader edits between 0.4.12 and 0.4.13 really didnt care about old hardware
01:46 est31 still doesnt
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01:46 Clouds Thats kinda strange since mt was designed to function quite well on older hardware
01:49 Clouds est31: that link did not help much....
01:50 est31 Clouds, that is the problem of behaviour like that. one of the few advantages of minetest is that it works on older opengl versions
01:51 Clouds Indeed
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01:56 JohnnyComeL8ly Well, let's hope a driver update fixes it.
02:03 JohnnyComeL8ly It works without the shaders, but I think that there should be FULL support for OpenGL 2.* devices at least until MT 0.5.*
02:04 JohnnyComeL8ly Btw, who is this guy?
02:05 JohnnyComeL8ly est31: You know, the one that made "shaders edits."
02:06 Clouds Johnny: its best not to state names when making a statement as such
02:07 Clouds est31: you wouldn't know how to start a new line when using textlist[] do you? The wiki does not go in depth on this.
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02:12 est31 Clouds, http://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modd​ing_book/lua_api.html#textlistxywhn​amelistelem-1listelem-2listelem-n
02:12 est31 that page is really useful
02:12 Clouds Thats alot est :)
02:12 est31 that part of the page is created from the minetest repo though
02:13 est31 automatically
02:14 Clouds Now to try and see if it will work via text document.....
02:16 Clouds I'm using textlist since it has a scrollbar but im having issues getting the text document to paste it in properly i have the new line start working its not putting the words on the correct line tho.....
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02:43 xfceKris I don't feel like looking it up. Is Minetest OpenGL?
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02:47 VanessaE_ can the [combine operator take more than two images?
02:47 AndroidKris dang crappy internet.
02:48 est31 xfceKris, yes
02:48 est31 no vulkan, and no directEEE
02:48 xfceKris sweet, so SimpleScreenRecorder will work quite well then. Good to know.
02:49 xfceKris Don't worry, I won't record on servers without permission.
02:49 xfceKris Promise
02:57 JohnnyComeL8ly Clouds: Gotcha: thanks for the tip.
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02:57 Clouds Np
02:58 Clouds Oops he left :3
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03:08 waressearcher2 its prohibited to record on servers ?
03:09 waressearcher2 I mean doing screen recording while playing on server
03:14 xfceKris A lot of server admins don't like it.
03:16 waressearcher2 so this is hot to get of their nerves
03:16 waressearcher2 how
03:16 waressearcher2 on
03:18 nm0i "plz don't ban me for griefing, I'm recording for youtube"
03:20 waressearcher2 its like free advertisement for their server
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03:24 xfceKris hah, nm0i, the griefing might get you kicked, but the recording included will definitely get you banned.
03:25 nm0i Mewbe I'm just wrong admin. I ban without talking griefers.
03:26 xfceKris I would to, but some just get kicked. Depends on the server I've noticed.
03:26 xfceKris well..the admin really.
03:27 waressearcher2 what happens on server stays on server ?
03:30 xfceKris dunno...
03:30 xfceKris maybe...
03:32 waressearcher2 but at least one can make screenshoots right ?
03:32 nm0i One should stay steaky.
03:33 waressearcher2 !g steaky
03:33 MinetestBot waressearcher2: http://www.urbandictionary.​com/define.php?term=Steaky
03:33 waressearcher2 !g One should stay steaky
03:33 MinetestBot waressearcher2: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089155/quotes
03:34 nm0i *Sneaky
03:34 nm0i >.>
03:38 waressearcher2 !g One should stay Sneaky
03:38 MinetestBot waressearcher2: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-couch​/201411/whats-the-best-way-deal-sneaky-people
03:39 nm0i !g cat pictures
03:39 MinetestBot nm0i: http://www.buzzfeed.com/exp​resident/best-cat-pictures
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03:55 swift110-phone Hey guys
03:56 waressearcher2 swift110-phone: so you are here
03:57 swift110-phone Yes i am how are you
03:57 swift110-phone So far in the game i have been collecting wood and my next move is to actually build a house
03:59 waressearcher2 swift110-phone: "So far", since when ?
03:59 swift110-phone Yesterday on my laptop
03:59 swift110-phone But a week or two on pc
04:03 waressearcher2 swift110-phone: you've been collecting wood all that time
04:03 waressearcher2 you have 1fps ?
04:03 waressearcher2 "swift" means "fast" after all
04:04 swift110-phone No
04:04 swift110-phone But i would play the game for a while and collect wood and walk/run around
04:04 swift110-phone Make tunnels in blocks
04:06 waressearcher2 from www.valvesoftware.com     "We are always looking for smart, talented, creative people who are solving interesting problems--people who will continue to make our products and our company the best in the industry. We're always hiring for all positions.", I wish they hire me as a cleaner or something
04:06 waressearcher2 they say "all positions"
04:08 waressearcher2 from that I can always work my way up to being a CEO
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04:19 Xeprione hello :)
04:23 swift110-phone Cool
04:24 Xeprione what's cool?
04:24 Xeprione tell me more :P
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04:36 Xeprione well, not gonna use hexchat anymore, due to high ping...
04:40 swift110-phone Why
04:40 swift110-phone Hexchat is nice
04:43 nm0i Its just fancy telnet client.
04:43 swift110-phone Well i like it
04:49 Xeprione well, it doesn't work as nice as it looks
04:49 Xeprione if you sent a message right now and i was using hexchat, i would recieve it 2 minutes from now
04:50 Xeprione whereas on the webchat, it's correct
04:51 swift110-phone Really
04:51 Xeprione really...
04:51 Xeprione anyways...
04:51 Xeprione what'ya all up to?
04:52 Xeprione I can't believe today was a good day
04:52 nm0i Still making stupid weather mod.
04:56 waressearcher2 nm0i: it sounds like you torture yourself
04:57 waressearcher2 one could understand why people hate working at EA but still work, they get paid, why people do stuff for open source if they don't like it
04:58 waressearcher2 why wolfenstain3d,doom and quake was good ? the creators themselve had fun making it
04:59 nm0i Why people listen to Death Metal.
05:01 nm0i Torturing mewself does not mean I don't like it.
05:02 swift110-phone Lol
05:23 waressearcher2 people listen to Death Metal because they don't yet know there is Justin Bieber
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05:34 Xeprione lol :D
05:35 Xeprione anyway, imma bail
05:35 Xeprione bye
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07:18 TheWild #943 - my opinion: no increase, no decrease; create a setting and it goes to minetest.conf
07:19 TheWild ok, ShadowBot not here; https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/943
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09:01 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy World Arthritis Day! 😃
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09:20 waressearcher2 JamesTait: are you a bot ?
09:21 waressearcher2 like that calendar bot
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09:22 JamesTait waressearcher2, sorry, I did not understand your command. Please issue a valid command, or "help" to get a list of valid commands.
09:22 * JamesTait struggles at this time on a Monday morning.
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09:24 waressearcher2 JamesTait: do you know audacity ?
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09:25 JamesTait I know of it, yes.  I've used it a little bit, but I'm no expert.
09:25 waressearcher2 say I have imported /tmp/1.wav and I edited that track and later moved the file to /tmp/audio/1.wav and now it says it can't find that file, is there a way to tell where the actual is ? I went to "file -> check dependencies" and it says one file is missing, and it says I should "restore them to their original location", but is there a way to keep
09:25 waressearcher2 the original file in its new location but instead tell audacity to look in new location for the file ? I don't want to move file back nor do I want to export and reedit it again there should be a way, its just a matter of changing location path can it be done by opening project file in text editor and edit path by hand ?
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09:28 JamesTait I have no idea, I'm afraid.
09:29 waressearcher2 or anyone else
09:32 nm0i Edit project file in text editor.
09:32 nm0i Change wavetrack filenames.
09:33 nm0i Also there is #audacity on freenode.
09:33 waressearcher2 I asked #audacity few days ago still no one answers
09:34 nm0i Well in wavetrack section for simpleblockfile tags there are 'filename' attributes, so just change them to new ones.
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09:44 wilkgr I am so frustrated.
09:44 wilkgr Oops - wrong channel
09:47 wilkgr It's just that my robotic vacuum cleaner broke. And it's only 1 year old.
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10:05 meldrian Hi there
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10:36 waressearcher2 meldrian: what are you doing for living ?
10:39 meldrian Iam a big ass youtube star, don't you know waressearcher2 ?
10:39 meldrian Millions and Millions... per hour
10:39 waressearcher2 meldrian: you still live in the attic ?
10:40 meldrian There was once a little bear that cared but no one cared about the little bear so no one cared about the bear that cared. Sad, right?
10:41 waressearcher2 meldrian: do you still call that "dirt" block an "earth" ?
10:42 meldrian I would say its the fault of the government, not the people but thats a really unpopular opinion and without the right meme and a TOR-Gateway I'll better be quiet.
10:43 waressearcher2 meldrian: what is that with your avatar ? bloody face ?
10:44 meldrian No one wants to build a wall / Mister Gorbatschov, tear that wall down!
10:46 waressearcher2 meldrian: you will have to face reality some day
10:47 meldrian In small saucepan, melt white chocolate over low heat. Stir until smooth, and allow to cool to room temperature.
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10:53 Calinou link of the day: http://devdocs.io/ – has Lua documentation
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11:04 meldrian ah come on, is that all you got? I've a nice tab open full of Mahatma Gandhi Quotes to answer all your permanent repeating questions :/
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12:56 comradmax when did ghandi meet gorby?
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13:00 comradmax forest fire still on: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/94061
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15:01 Xeprione hello :O
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15:03 Xeprione hello barrydk
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17:09 nanepiwo does cactus need light? i cant find anything in the code to suggest this but my cactus grows a lot quicker outdoors than indoors. in my indoors cactus farm only half are fully grown, seemingly random, and the others wont grow
17:10 nanepiwo huh seems like only default:cactus 0 0 works
17:11 nanepiwo (im using a replacer to check these...)
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17:18 nanepiwo #529
17:19 nanepiwo minetest_game#529
17:19 nanepiwo minetestbot?
17:21 Krock nanepiwo, only in #-dev
17:21 Krock And ther it's ShadowBot who does it
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18:27 comradmax i aint no xpert, but looks like "Darryl" may have set his crack-bot to a 2min interval: http://www.pasteall.org/61675
18:28 comradmax or 2sec
18:28 comradmax but that's cool i guess
18:31 Obani back
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19:00 kahrl comradmax: I'd make it log the IP address as well and then set up fail2ban to scan debug.txt and use iptables to temporarily ban bruteforcers
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19:31 kahrl comradmax: this may be useful: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/3247
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19:39 Fixer hi, is there any gravel in mapgen v7?
19:40 AndDT Fixer: On extreme survival I saw it deep underground
19:47 Obani I'll go for now
19:47 Obani bb
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19:49 MinetestBot [git] kahrl -> minetest/minetest: Fix how address is logged when a wrong password is supplied e0b57c1 http://git.io/vCReS (2015-10-12T21:47:56+02:00)
19:49 Xeprione hello
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20:23 Xeprione hey, can somebody suggest any cheap web hosting service providers that include a domain (.net preferably)
20:26 Xeprione with a monthly (not an annual) plan?
20:27 H-H-H godaddy
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20:31 Xeprione doesn't have a monthly plan...
20:31 Xeprione so i won't get that now
20:32 H-H-H i used to pay monthly
20:32 H-H-H was a while ago hough
20:32 H-H-H though*
20:33 Xeprione ok... it's just that i'm on a very tight budget right now, but if i could get hosting+domain for a month, i could extend it further
20:33 Xeprione but it isn't that urgent
20:39 comradmax kahrl: this is great, thank you!
20:40 Xeprione hello comradmax, what's up?
20:41 comradmax he made changes to the code to log IPs in wrong pass situations
20:42 Xeprione oh, well that's nice :D loving the open-source stuff so far :D
20:43 Xeprione btw comradmax, you know what the difference between those indie developers who make games for computers and those who make games for android and ios is?
20:43 Xeprione pc indie devs make it because they love to
20:43 Xeprione whereas (usually) android/ios indies make it to make a quick buck or two
20:44 comradmax that's unfortunate
20:44 Xeprione yet it has a valid point, doesn't it
20:45 Xeprione when was the last time you saw an open-source android game?
20:45 Xeprione apart from minetest
20:45 Xeprione and other games that are open-source and were on the pc prior to being on android
20:45 comradmax i have an ipad, when is mt getting ported?
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20:45 Xeprione hello swift110
20:46 comradmax ignore android, and any others like that.  is linux can exist, then there is light in our imaginations
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20:46 Xeprione comradmax: as soon as someone has the time to work on it and the money to buy anything running osx
20:46 Xeprione (because of xcode and stuff)
20:46 comradmax ignore osx
20:46 comradmax os-no-thanX
20:46 Xeprione can't
20:47 Xeprione in order to make an ios application or game, the developer needs xcode
20:47 Xeprione which is an osx exlusive
20:47 comradmax surgicalOS, installs directly on person's bone marrow
20:47 Xeprione it's like a dev kit for consoles
20:47 Xeprione just overprices
20:47 Xeprione overpriced*
20:48 comradmax i have wp7, and would also love to play mt on that.
20:49 Xeprione wp7?
20:49 comradmax i thought everyone knows about the great windows phone 7 os
20:50 Xeprione oh
20:50 comradmax mt stole the whole UI from wt7
20:50 Xeprione well, let's put it like this - i dislike me knowing about it
20:50 comradmax all those squares
20:51 Xeprione comradmax: squares were a thing long before transportation was...
20:51 Xeprione like automated transportation, that is...
20:51 comradmax i just realized something
20:51 Xeprione what?
20:51 comradmax bananas are great, but their skins are even bigger
20:52 Xeprione peels*
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20:55 Xeprione hey, is there anybody that could remake some of my old sprites (trying to make a remake of a game i made a few years ago)
20:56 Xeprione the project is open-source
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21:16 Xeprione probably the best feeling in the world (or second best, right after love) if having a roommate who works at a pizza parlor :O
21:16 Xeprione he bring pizza to our dorm every single night :D
21:17 swift110 cool
21:17 Xeprione swift110: no, it's not cool... it's way better :D
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21:26 luizrpgluiz hi :)
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23:51 Fixer gn
23:55 paramat Fixer gravel is in 5x5x5 blobs throughout the underground. however in 0.4.13 stable blobs were broken and appeared too small, and were also too rare. so if you can, use latest 0.4.13dev engine and game
23:56 paramat i might add a layer of gravel under seabed sand to make it more available

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