Time Nick Message 00:20 waressearcher2 github down ? 00:24 VanessaE works for me 00:25 waressearcher2 https://status.github.com they had a small outage 00:25 VanessaE an hour ago, yeah 04:50 Niften Hi 04:52 Niften @MinetestBot 04:52 Niften MinetestBot 04:54 Niften Has anybody seen Menche recently? 10:55 wilkgr LazyJ 10:56 wilkgr linuxgaming.us responds with "Connection timed out". 10:56 LazyJ Yup. 10:56 LazyJ The server is moving. 10:56 wilkgr Oh... 10:56 wilkgr When will it be online again? 10:56 LazyJ https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=194171#p194171 10:57 LazyJ Later today, if all goes well. 10:57 wilkgr Thanks :D 10:57 LazyJ yw ;) 10:57 wilkgr It's evening here, so it would be tomorrow morning 11:00 wilkgr Ah well, I'm going to be on MegaF's server then... 11:59 Megaf_ LazyJ: Moving? Where to? :) 13:22 kaeza greetings 13:31 Krock meow 13:38 Calinou http://getgrav.org/ 13:38 Calinou whoa 13:42 SylvieLorxu Hmm, looks interesting 13:43 SylvieLorxu WordPress is cool, but developing themes for it is pretty horrible 13:43 Calinou PHP, a language designed by capitalists. there's $ everywhere :) 13:44 Krock ^ 14:04 Taoki Has anyone still seen RealBadAngel around this channel lately? 14:06 diemartin ~seen RealBadAngel 14:06 ShadowBot diemartin: I saw RealBadAngel in #minetest 6 days, 19 hours, 53 minutes, and 32 seconds ago saying "OldCoder, hi btw" 14:06 diemartin Taoki, ^ 14:06 Taoki Aha 14:07 Taoki And thanks 14:07 diemartin yw 14:09 nrzkt Calinou: like perl then 14:28 Sokomine anyone intrested in trees and their growing in mt? 14:31 swift110-phone How do u grow trees in mt 14:33 Sokomine there are a lot of diffrent ways. i intend to offer a common interface for that...a trees_lib 14:33 Sokomine that's what i'm currently working on. they grow (admittedly nothing special) 14:35 Sokomine a common function to register the nodes a tree usually consists of, and growing through a function, schematic or l-system 14:43 kahrl Sokomine: hmm, what will be the difference to biome_lib? 14:45 Sokomine biome_lib to my knowledge is for finding out where a tree or plant wants to grow or spawn. trees_lib aims at having a common interface for trees - no matter which growing method they use. i particulary want to be able to react to trees growing and to grow them inside lua voxelmanip 14:45 nrzkt kahrl: moretrees uses the three ways 14:47 Sokomine the other purpose is to have a more easy way to add trees - and also have one central place where i.e. features of the leaves can be changed for all trees present to a game 14:48 Sokomine for mg_villages, i had to copy an old version of the default trees in order to be able to grow them inside the voxelmanip area. the default trees are not very forthcomming with interfaces 14:49 Sokomine reacting to a tree growing in moretrees also didn't work well enough - plus it was limited to moretrees 15:09 swift110-phone Hmm 15:09 swift110-phone Is there a mod to make trees grow or a seeds package of some sort? 15:19 Calinou saplings. 15:21 Sokomine normal trees grow from saplings. if you want to define your own trees, my new trees_lib might be of intrest to you 15:21 MinetestBot 02[git] 04est31 -> 03minetest/minetest: Clear list rings when loading a new formspec 1341d896d http://git.io/vCGKi (152015-10-10T17:10:52+02:00) 15:21 Sokomine i don't think i ever understood list rings.... 15:31 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: Default/mapgen: Remove dunes biome. Sand for glacier seabed 1341c1e99 http://git.io/vCGPf (152015-10-10T16:28:49+01:00) 15:31 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest_game: New header image 'Minetest Game' 1370e8924 http://git.io/vCGPU (152015-10-10T16:28:40+01:00) 15:34 Calinou http://opengameart.org/content/transparent-shape-pack 15:34 Calinou lol 16:06 Krock \o/ Create your Minetest forum topic now and get a 1337X topic number! 17:31 Calinou https://namesmith.io/ideas/summary?keywords=open+source 17:31 Calinou lol 17:39 AndroidKris I need to blow something up. 17:39 AndroidKris badly 17:40 Krock use /giveme tnt:tnt 17:40 xfceKris not quite like that, I'm thinking in the form of an fps. 17:40 Calinou /giveme tnt:tnt -1 17:40 Calinou for 65535 TNT :p 17:40 Calinou xfceKris, firearms mod? 17:40 Krock Install a nuke mod and use the mese nuke instead of trying that way ^ 17:41 xfceKris Also, if I place and detonate more than ten tnt, it crashes...My pc can't handle it. 17:41 * xfceKris wonders if there are any good fps games in linux...like halo or mw2 17:41 Sokomine the extreme survival server almost feels like a shooter. at least when the stone mobs show up at night 17:41 Krock the tree trim mod is even worse than the TNT mod.. 17:42 Sokomine tree trim? 17:42 Krock Sokomine, the mod that cuts the trunks and leaves of a tree when the underst is mined 17:43 xfceKris like papyrus does. 17:43 Krock It does that with minetest.remove_node().. which is PITA for my graphics card 17:45 * Calinou joined #lua 17:46 Calinou "Pay no attention to Soni" good deal 17:46 xfceKris The tree trim mod or papyrus?> 17:46 Krock xfceKris, the tree trim mod 17:47 Krock maybe it also cuts papyrus.. don't know 17:47 xfceKris I wonder how papyrus handles it... 17:47 * xfceKris opens minetest default_games mod folder to hunt for it. 17:51 xfceKris papyrus uses code: after_dig_node = function(pos, node, metadata, digger) default.dig_up(pos, node, digger) 17:51 Soni Calinou, please don't ping me 17:51 * xfceKris downloads the tree trim mod to see if improvements can be made. 17:52 xfceKris Yeah Calinou, don't ping him, he's busy with stuff...and things. 17:52 Sokomine krock: ah, ok. wouldn't consider "trim" to be an appropriate name for that. sounds more like trimming a hedge...cutting off surplus leaves .-) 17:52 Soni she* 17:53 xfceKris correction....she 17:53 xfceKris my apologies 17:53 Calinou use "they" 17:53 xfceKris eh, gender rolls are lame. everyone is equal in my book. 17:54 Calinou gender trolls :) 17:54 xfceKris Plus the english language sucks. Most other languages have a "gender neutral" term for situations where you don't know the gender...english does not. 17:55 xfceKris Yeah, "they" is neutral, but it's also plural...not singular 17:55 Soni meh... Calinou this is why you shouldn't ping random people 17:55 Soni xfceKris, "you" is also plural 17:55 Soni (inb4 you try to argue it isn't) 17:56 Krock Sokomine, but it cuts the leaves :P 17:56 xfceKris Ah, but you is referring directly to whom you are speaking...not useful for a third party. 17:56 xfceKris you think Grammar is a MF game? 17:56 xfceKris lmao 17:56 xfceKris anyway. 17:56 Soni xfceKris, singular "you" is no different from singular "they" 17:57 xfceKris Krock. it doesn't need to cut the leaves, those break once the top node of the trunk is removed. 17:57 Soni singular "you" comes from plural "you", singular "they" comes from plural "they" 17:57 Krock xfceKris, you know, cutting them and calculating the dropped items it way easier to use ^^ 17:57 xfceKris I think that's why the mod has to use minetest.remove_node 17:57 Krock *is 17:58 Krock no, you just could use vmanip 17:58 Soni also singular "they" is old .-. 17:58 Krock they is plural, isn't it? 17:58 Soni exists since the 1800s 17:58 xfceKris instead of after_dig_node 17:58 Soni Krock, so is 'you' 17:59 Krock So if someone calls me "you" then I'm multiple times there? 17:59 xfceKris Not in that scenario 17:59 Krock ik, jk 18:00 Soni so if someone calls me "they" then I'm multiple times there? 18:00 Krock Yup. 18:00 xfceKris That's why us southerners say ya'll. It separates singular and plural forms of "you" 18:00 Soni we say things like "who left their phone here?" all the time y'know 18:00 Soni not "who left his phone here?" 18:00 xfceKris also, nobody that actually understands grammar would refer to a single person as "they"...it's a plural term 18:01 Calinou "Qui a laissé son téléphone ici ?" in French 18:01 Calinou it is gender-neutral 18:01 Calinou because "son" is for the phone, not for the person 18:01 Krock oh I see. Already wondered how to say that neutral 18:01 swift110 hmm 18:01 xfceKris Ah, but now we differenciate between they're, there, and their. 18:01 Krock Your correct. 18:01 xfceKris differentiate* 18:01 Soni xfceKris, tom scott 18:02 Soni .help 18:02 Soni .commands 18:02 Soni meh 18:02 Krock !help 18:02 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md 18:02 xfceKris Soni, who is tom scot? 18:02 xfceKris scott* 18:02 xfceKris fingers aren't listening to me today. 18:02 Soni !g tom scott gender neutral pronouns youtube 18:02 MinetestBot Soni: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46ehrFk-gLk 18:03 xfceKris word... 18:03 * xfceKris watches 18:03 Calinou excel... 18:03 Soni !g tom scott wikipedia 18:03 MinetestBot Soni: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Scott_(musician) 18:03 Krock "Oh hi fingers! Can you all hear me?" 18:03 Soni uhh wrong tom scott 18:03 xfceKris lmao Krock 18:03 Soni meh too lazy to figure out how to get the right one 18:03 Krock Soni, refer to lmgtfy.com or lmddgtfy 18:04 Soni !g Tom Scott entertainer wikipedia 18:04 MinetestBot Soni: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Scott_(entertainer) 18:04 Soni that's the right tom scott 18:04 Krock But Scott Joplin wrote the entertainer, not tom. 18:04 xfceKris Krock, what is lmddgtfy? I know lmgtfy. 18:05 Calinou Let Me DuckDuckGo That For You 18:05 Krock xfceKris, let me DuckDuckGo that for you. 18:05 Calinou the ethical replacement of lmgtfy :) 18:05 Krock grr. always those ninjas 18:05 Calinou Ninja Training! 18:05 xfceKris Ethical? 18:05 Krock privacy etc 18:05 Calinou https://github.com/KOBUGE-Games/ninja-training 18:06 Krock I think a typeracer link would be more helpful for the ninjas here 18:06 Soni tom scott is so cute and so hot and so amazing and yeah I have a crush on him .-. 18:06 Calinou http://10fastfingers.com/typing-test/english 18:06 Soni he's just so perfect 18:06 Calinou what's your score? 18:07 Krock I'd need a flat keboard to get the ultimative speed 18:07 Krock also, complete sentences would bemuch easier to write :( 18:08 Calinou Words per minute (WPM) 106 18:08 Calinou Keystrokes 542 18:08 Calinou (531 | 11) 18:08 Calinou Correct words 103 18:08 Calinou Wrong words 2 18:08 Calinou You are better than 98.32% of all users (position 2148 of 128207 - last 24 hours) 18:08 Calinou You are better than 98.32% of all users (position 2148 of 128207 - last 24 hours) 18:08 Calinou there :) 18:08 Krock pastebin for the win 18:08 Krock yes we got that already 18:08 Calinou ok 18:08 Krock congrats 18:10 Krock ou are better than 65.79% of all users 18:10 Krock at least something 18:10 Amaz You are better than 80.17% of all users :) 18:10 xfceKris The problem with me doing it is my daughter is on my lap, still got 53 wpm and 79.22% 18:10 Amaz Wow! 18:11 Krock *looks for a site with real sentences to write* 18:11 swift110 lol 18:11 xfceKris Krock, right? that slowed me down too. 18:12 Krock xfceKris, thing is: I need the half time to read and remember the word :P 18:12 Krock *cries* 18:14 xfceKris 64 wpm this time and 86.47% 18:14 Soni I'm guessing that works better on a mech keyboard 18:15 xfceKris I'm using a wireless logitech K350 keyboard 18:15 xfceKris sitting across the room... 18:15 xfceKris looking at my 39" TV Computer moniter... 18:15 Krock writing across the room... 18:15 xfceKris monitor* 18:15 Calinou my screen is 24", but I have a new 48" TV now 18:16 Calinou Logitech G11 18:16 xfceKris If I'm sitting at a desk, I see no reason for anything bigger than 20-24" myself. 18:16 xfceKris But I'm on my couch... 18:16 Calinou 25" would be ideal, but it's very rare 18:16 Calinou 25" 2560×1440 to be accurate :) 18:17 xfceKris that's a one inch difference from what you have now...How does that make a big difference? 18:17 xfceKris ^^not sarcasm, honest curiousity. 18:18 Obani * xfceKris wonders if there are any good fps games in linux...like halo or mw2 18:18 Krock !c (2560*1440) / (1280*1024) 18:18 MinetestBot 2.8125 18:18 Calinou it's tiny I know 18:18 Obani Try unvanquished or Xonotic 18:18 Calinou but would you go to 23" instead of 24"? 18:18 Obani It might be some of the bests :) 18:18 Calinou http://etlegacy.com/ 18:18 * xfceKris takes note 18:18 Calinou "Friends don't let friends revive nazis" 18:18 xfceKris thanks Obani 18:18 Krock Wow. about 3 times more pixels on Calinou's screen 18:18 Obani Also try thedarkmod for a good first person thief game 18:18 Obani Warsow is also a very good quake like 18:18 Calinou Krock, I'm only in 1920×1080. 18:19 Calinou I saw a 2560×1440 screen in 24" the other day 18:19 Obani xfceKris, also Urban Terror, as a Counter Strike clone 18:19 Calinou 370 € 18:19 Krock !c (1920*1080) / (1280*1024) 18:19 Obani afk (om nom nom) 18:19 MinetestBot 1.58203125 18:19 Calinou ehm no 18:19 Calinou 290 € 18:27 xfceKris I've got to stop trying to find games on Ubuntu Software Center 18:28 * xfceKris shakes head 18:28 Calinou it's essentially Debian packages 18:28 Calinou many games are not packaged there 18:28 Calinou like Stunt Rally 18:30 xfceKris I'm gonna venture a guess that less than 20% of installable software for *buntu distros is actually in the software center. 18:31 Krock remove a zero and the guess could be more exact 18:32 nanepiwo i feel like i made a stupid mistake here but dont know whats wrong 18:32 nanepiwo minetest.register_alias("paragenv7:grass","default:dirt_with_grass") 18:34 Calinou xfceKris, no, Debian has a lot of packages compared to other distributions 18:34 Calinou but other distributions are kind of catching up 18:52 xfceKris ETlegacy looks awesome...I LOVED Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory. 19:15 xfceKris so, I can't find that tree trim mod you were talking about Krock 19:15 xfceKris my google-fu isn't strong enough I guess 19:18 Krock !mod treecapitator] 19:18 MinetestBot Krock: TreeCapitator [treecapitator] by Hybrid Dog - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4772 19:20 xfceKris well then, You should have just said that it was meant to behead the trees.lmao 19:20 Krock xfceKris, just checked for all mods that contain "tree" or "timber" and selected the best one 19:20 Krock I saw the mod on a server but there were too many other mods, so I wasn't sure which one exactly 19:21 xfceKris word, Maybe I'll look into making an "improved one" as part of my "teach yourself lua by beating yourself over the head with it" regimen. 19:21 xfceKris "improved" one* 19:25 Obani xfceKris, still trying to find some good 3d games ? :) 19:26 Calinou write one! 19:27 Calinou http://godotengine.org/projects/godot-engine 19:28 xfceKris lol, I've got six tabs open for those games you guys mentioned, plus a Portal "non-clone" 19:28 xfceKris But sure, I'll take more suggestionss 19:28 Krock Minetest is a good 3D game 19:31 xfceKris I see what you did there Krock...I am unamused, stop doing it. 19:32 Krock Do you mean the kitten meat in my chests or the lava generated stone mountain? 19:32 xfceKris Why not both? 19:33 Krock But at least one of them I need to live 19:34 xfceKris The mountain, got to have the mountain to live...The kitten meat is questionable. 19:37 Obani xfceKris, as a clone of ace of spades, you have open spades 19:38 Obani xfceKris, do you know Cube Engine 2 ? 19:39 xfceKris nope 19:39 xfceKris !g Open Spades 19:39 MinetestBot xfceKris: http://gamejolt.com/games/openspades/46984 19:45 xfceKris Open spades is windows and mac only...no linux support. 19:47 Krock drink wine? 19:48 zat I just drank some and I am drunk 19:48 zat (really) 19:48 zat I came 19:49 xfceKris no, I drink beer. Hate wine (love the drink, hate the software.) 19:49 Krock rekt 19:49 zat I came 19:50 zat to ask 19:50 zat someone knows what is the name of that new minetest-like game Celeron is making? 19:50 Krock see his GitHub acc 19:50 zat I don't know it and am too drunk 19:50 zat xfceKris: name some good beer brands pl0x 19:50 Krock lie down and try again in 10 hours 19:51 zat no way, my father birthday is in 4 more hours 19:51 zat we were about to buy some Budweiser but then we went to another supermarket and they did not have it there 19:51 zat so I ended up buying some Peruvian one that was super cheap 19:52 zat no no, it is Bolivian. 19:52 Krock too dunk.. can't read.. hah! 19:53 zat that's basketbally 19:53 zat LOLCOPTER 19:55 xfceKris I like lagers and ales...check out the magic hat line, also there is a good selection of local brews at every Mellow Mushroom if you have one near you. 19:55 xfceKris zat^^^ 20:01 Calinou xfceKris, OpenSpades does support GNU/Linux. 20:01 Calinou I've used it in the past. 20:01 Calinou you need to compile it yourself 20:01 Calinou zat, Buildat 20:01 Calinou it's inactive for 1 year now 20:02 zat KIK 20:03 zat oh damn 20:03 zat Minetest needs an urgent rewrite I think 20:03 xfceKris Why so zat? 20:03 Calinou it won't happen 20:03 zat It can't be that I have to wait ten minutes to connect to a new server 20:03 Krock zat, please begin. 20:04 zat Krock: I will when if (!drunk && hastime) 20:04 Krock is that happening somewhen? 20:04 Calinou zat, tell servers to use less mods, or to use remote media 20:04 Krock (not saying that you're drunk all the time) 20:04 zat if I keep drinking the way I do it is near Infinity 20:05 zat Javascriptily thinking though 20:06 zat Calinou: I think that if you pretend to make a framework for sandbox games it should be in a lower level than Minetest is 20:06 Calinou in which way? 20:13 zat its inherent frameworkness restrict any form of inter-operational paradigm 20:16 nrzkt !server Appletree 20:16 MinetestBot nrzkt: AppleTree - Survival & Build | pts.epixel-game.net | Clients: 11/50, 9/11 | Version: 0.4.13-dev / epixel | Ping: 12ms 20:17 Krock It's grey, like the sky. 20:19 zat paradigm... you know 20:25 Obani xfceKris, nop 20:25 Obani OpenSpades is on LInux 20:26 Obani And also for cube2engine 20:27 Obani xfceKris, some games made with Cube2Engine http://redeclipse.net/ http://sauerbraten.org/ http://assault.cubers.net/ 20:28 MinetestBot 02[git] 04paramat -> 03minetest/minetest: Fractal mapgen: Fix mysterious bug 133a4bcf3 http://git.io/vCZiY (152015-10-10T21:27:44+01:00) 20:30 xfceKris would that mysterious bug be the one that causes servers to randomly kick people off? 20:30 Krock > Fractal mapgen 20:30 Krock > randomly kick people of 20:30 Krock Those things are so similar like water and stone 20:31 zat xfceKris: ever played Rise of the Triad? 20:31 nm0i Actually been thinking on "meteor shower" weather with random kick... 20:31 xfceKris lol, I know. I should have said /s/ 20:31 zat "I am freeeeeeee" 20:31 xfceKris !g Rise of the Triad 20:31 MinetestBot xfceKris: http://riseofthetriad.net/ 20:32 zat I am talking about the first one 20:32 zat circa 90s 20:34 Calinou Obani, AssaultCube is Cube 1, not Cube 2 20:34 Calinou they went with Cube 1 even when Cube 2 was available... 20:38 Out`Of`Control hi 20:38 Out`Of`Control is there a mod to seperate logs? 20:39 Obani Calinou, that's why it has so bad graphics x) 20:45 xfceKris Out`Of`Control: what do you mean? 20:47 Out`Of`Control xfceKris: split chat and other info 20:47 Out`Of`Control so chat is saved to other file, not debug.txt 20:48 xfceKris Oh, you mean chat, I thought you meant something else 20:48 xfceKris I have no idea, but I'm sure someone here might be able to help 20:49 Calinou I am on 60 channels! 20:49 Calinou on 4 networks 20:49 swift110 where can I get mods for minetest? 20:49 Out`Of`Control i mean debug.txt it gets too big 20:50 Calinou swift110, http://forum.minetest.net -> Mod Releases 20:50 Calinou Out`Of`Control, debug_log_level = 0 20:50 Calinou disables logging to debug.txt 20:50 Out`Of`Control i need it to see errors, just would like to split info into other file 20:51 swift110 cool thanks Calinou 20:51 Out`Of`Control some info like chat 20:51 Calinou use logrotate then 20:51 Calinou but if you're on Windows, you're out of luck 20:51 Out`Of`Control Calinou: what is windows? 21:02 bleak_fire_ Anyone know a server with Unified Inventory Lite, so I can take a look at it before I add it to mine? 21:03 bleak_fire_ I'm having problems with disappearing players and VanessaE suggested using it 21:03 bleak_fire_ it doesnt seem to work though, and i dont see anything relevant using grep, so i'm guessing i have an older version of unified inventory installed 21:08 Out`Of`Control bleak_fire_: i have it installed 21:09 Out`Of`Control bleak_fire_: Liberty Land 21:09 Out`Of`Control its a bit out of date too, I have recent one on test server can show you that one too 21:13 bleak_fire_ what do you mean "out of date"? 21:13 bleak_fire_ was it removed you think from the version of unified_inventory i have? 21:13 bleak_fire_ because i added it to the config and it still isnt using the lite layout 21:14 Out`Of`Control bleak_fire_: i have old one on Liberty Land server 21:15 bleak_fire_ ok 21:15 bleak_fire_ but was it removed from later versions of unified inventory? 21:16 Out`Of`Control no 21:19 bleak_fire_ i just connected to liberty land ad it looks like the regular unified inventory to me... 21:20 bleak_fire_ i thought unified inventory had a smaller box on the left side with the items to choose from 21:20 bleak_fire_ unified inventory lite 21:20 bleak_fire_ while regular unified inventory had the bigger box on the right 21:20 Out`Of`Control yes type /mods 21:21 Out`Of`Control its not lite 21:21 comradmax isnt 'lite' just a setting in the new UI? 21:21 bleak_fire_ that's what i was talking about when i was looking for a server with "lite" 21:21 comradmax it's not the name of the mod 21:21 comradmax it's a mode in ui 21:21 bleak_fire_ i know 21:22 Out`Of`Control bleak_fire_: sorry i misread you 21:22 bleak_fire_ but it doesnt seem to work in my config so i'm wondering if i have an older version of unified_inventory on my server 21:22 bleak_fire_ ok 21:22 comradmax probably, where did you getit? 21:22 bleak_fire_ Out`Of`Control do you know any unified_inventory_lite servers off the top of your head? 21:23 bleak_fire_ i had a server early this year which was short lived, and started a new one last week which i'm sure is permanent 21:23 Out`Of`Control bleak_fire_: try to find http://servers.minetest.net/ 21:23 bleak_fire_ before i announce 21:23 bleak_fire_ in the forum 21:23 bleak_fire_ i want to see if it works right first 21:23 bleak_fire_ because i did it the wrong way when i tried the first time 21:24 bleak_fire_ Out`Of`Control i can try each one and try and remember which one had the lite inventory 21:24 bleak_fire_ but it is just a config setting VanessaE told me that 21:24 bleak_fire_ it isnt working for me so that's just my guess 21:24 Out`Of`Control you get anny errors? 21:25 comradmax bleak_fire_: that setting is a recent addition to the code, you either had a diff version, or an older release of UI 21:25 bleak_fire_ oh ok 21:25 comradmax https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory 21:25 bleak_fire_ that's probably it 21:25 bleak_fire_ if i update it do you think it will break everything? 21:25 comradmax whatever you have, get rid of it, and try this 21:25 comradmax no, back up your existing mod dir 21:25 comradmax delete UI that you have, use the new one, rejoyce 21:26 bleak_fire_ ok so everyone will still have everything 21:26 Out`Of`Control i always test first localy 21:26 comradmax bleak_fire_: back up EVERYTHING, repeat other steps 21:27 comradmax ABB, always be backingup 21:27 comradmax ABBU 21:27 comradmax !g ABBU 21:27 MinetestBot comradmax: http://smallbusiness.chron.com/convert-address-book-abbu-file-csv-57969.html 21:27 Out`Of`Control backup your backup haha 21:27 comradmax interesting 21:31 comradmax for days this room was dead, i stepped away for half a day, and there is 1M new messages. 'you' is always plural, it is just used to refer to single individuals, not because it's also singular, but because the English language is inherently polite. 21:35 comradmax also kittens are cute, and so are adult cats 21:38 bleak_fire_ Nope, still shows up as full 21:38 bleak_fire_ not lite 21:39 bleak_fire_ does it only show up as lite for tablets? 21:40 comradmax try with a brand new user 21:40 * Krock found the cosine interpolation and is happy 21:43 comradmax Krock: for shading? like Phong? 21:43 Krock comradmax, nah. Just for a trivial noise calculation 21:45 bleak_fire_ hmm apparently lots of my stuff is old 21:45 bleak_fire_ didnt know they updated stuff so often 21:46 comradmax yea ppl go nuts for this game 21:47 bleak_fire_ hey it works for a non-admin user 21:47 comradmax it probably works for any new user 21:47 comradmax or no? 21:47 bleak_fire_ working for non-admin accounts i set up for myself 21:48 bleak_fire_ i mean i dont care it's other people having problems 21:48 bleak_fire_ plus it gets rid of settime etc 21:48 comradmax check the auth file, are there are privs set that have to do with UI? maybe the existing users have "full" somehow 21:49 bleak_fire_ no the existing users have the lite but admin has the full 21:49 comradmax oh, ok, so you got everything you set out to do 21:49 bleak_fire_ as do new users 21:49 bleak_fire_ set up a new test account 21:50 bleak_fire_ now to update the rest of the outdated mods 21:50 comradmax !next 21:50 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 21:50 bleak_fire_ lol 21:50 bleak_fire_ thank you 21:50 comradmax im usually a lot less helpful, but yw 21:52 comradmax Krock: are you trying to get rich playing the stocks? 21:52 Krock huh 21:53 comradmax price is a signal, and it has noise 22:09 bleak_fire_ i was late March 2015 that I had the server 22:16 bleak_fire_ is datastorage dangerous to update? 22:29 JohnnyComeL8ly Hello, y'all... is LazyJ here often? 22:31 A_Gal i have no idea 22:32 JohnnyComeL8ly Well, at least now I have some Idea... I didn't have a clue before. XD 22:33 JohnnyComeL8ly (That was just a playful jab... thanks for the answer at any rate. ;-) 22:51 * Jordach is busy finding holes within the forum avatar display system 22:51 Jordach there's a reason why i used to have a 128px sized picture 22:55 JohnnyComeL8ly Why's that Jordach? 22:55 Jordach i'm suspicious about something 22:56 Jordach when we first got phpbb, we had support for 128px images 22:56 Jordach it got changed to 64px for random reasons 22:56 JohnnyComeL8ly It is probably so that they can eek out the storage. 22:59 diemartin 128px doesn't make the file size much larger, unless you are using .bmp or such 23:00 Jordach but i have a theory, i'd like to test 23:00 diemartin and yet we allow animated .gif ... 23:00 Jordach *sits and watches gimp process frames* 23:00 diemartin also, o/ Jordach 23:00 Jordach 1) make a 64px image 23:01 Jordach 2) use the offsite avatar optiob 23:01 Jordach 3) replace said image with a higher res version 23:01 diemartin I want the optiob where you spell it option, please 23:01 diemartin <_< 23:01 diemartin does that even work? 23:01 Jordach maybe 23:01 Jordach am testing it 23:02 Jordach http://jordach.net/Images/BlenderStuff/test2.gif 23:02 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=332 23:02 Jordach notice the image source 23:03 diemartin so... not worky :/ 23:03 Jordach except higher resolution 23:03 Jordach for those goddamn high DPI machines 23:03 diemartin ... 23:04 Jordach i'm also suspicious that svgs are supported 23:06 diemartin I guess IE (and his PC) crashed 23:06 diemartin :> 23:20 bleak_fire_ hi 23:20 bleak_fire_ every minetest mod i updated is not being read by the existing world 23:20 comradmax open world.mt and change all that 23:20 diemartin have you enabled them? 23:20 bleak_fire_ it's the same folder name 23:22 bleak_fire_ found under /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game-0.4.13/mods 23:23 bleak_fire_ unsatisfied dependencies are all there 23:23 diemartin open world.mt and see if they are disabled there. try re-enabling them (by either manually editing the file or using the "Configure" dialog) 23:24 diemartin also, where are you storing mods? 23:24 bleak_fire_ there's nothing in world.mt other than gameid, backend, creative_mode, and enable_damage 23:25 bleak_fire_ i was having trouble when i set stuff up so i put everything in the global folder 23:25 bleak_fire_ some mods needed to be installed in the global folder iirc 23:25 bleak_fire_ but mods weren't generating if i installed them locally 23:25 diemartin no mod should be installed in the global folder 23:25 bleak_fire_ it's the only way i got everything to work... 23:25 diemartin is this a server or sp? 23:26 bleak_fire_ what's an sp? 23:26 diemartin singleplayer 23:26 bleak_fire_ server 23:27 diemartin if you don't intend to share mods across worlds, you can install mods into /worldmods (create if necessary) 23:27 bleak_fire_ i tried when i set it up but it wasnt working 23:27 bleak_fire_ and it's obviously too late now 23:27 bleak_fire_ every mod has the exact same folder name 23:27 bleak_fire_ in the exact same folder 23:27 bleak_fire_ but it isnt being found 23:28 bleak_fire_ example ERROR[main]: mod "nature_classic" has unsatisfied dependencies: "moretrees" 23:28 bleak_fire_ moretrees is what i replaced 23:28 bleak_fire_ same folder name 23:28 bleak_fire_ same folder location 23:29 bleak_fire_ wait it's only a few of them 23:29 bleak_fire_ for most of them, it cites "biome_lib" 23:30 diemartin ah, that used to be "plants_lib" (from plantlife IIRC) 23:30 bleak_fire_ well i renamed plantfile_modpack to plantlife since that's what it used to be 23:30 bleak_fire_ should i do a symlink from biome_lib to plants_lib? 23:31 diemartin have you updated plantlife to latest, and can find biome_lib somewhere? 23:31 bleak_fire_ plantlife was one of the ones i updated 23:31 bleak_fire_ yes biome_lib is one of the ones cited 23:33 diemartin bleak_fire_, do you have this? https://github.com/VanessaE/biome_lib 23:33 diemartin it was forked from plantlife recently IIRC 23:33 bleak_fire_ no 23:33 bleak_fire_ well the versions i was using were from march at latest 23:34 bleak_fire_ so i'll instlal that 23:34 diemartin well, try installing it. it provides what used to be the core of plantlife 23:36 bleak_fire_ OK, no dependency errors! 23:36 bleak_fire_ thank you diemartin 23:36 bleak_fire_ now to try the server 23:36 bleak_fire_ think i should do a /clearall or whatever it is? 23:36 diemartin bleak_fire_, glad to be of help. you are quite welcome 23:37 diemartin I don't recall if plantslib uses entities. if you see unknown objects, yes, run /clearobjects 23:38 bleak_fire_ uh oh missing acacia leaves 23:38 bleak_fire_ acacia wood 23:39 bleak_fire_ actually no thats not it 23:39 bleak_fire_ but my street signs are all weird 23:39 bleak_fire_ the text is where it's supposed to be but the signs are in all different directions 23:39 diemartin press F5 and it should show you the pointed node name 23:39 diemartin ah 23:40 diemartin blame me for that :( 23:40 bleak_fire_ what do you mean 23:40 diemartin teh random yaw bug strikes again. never got around to fixing it 23:40 bleak_fire_ i can go around the village and fix it for myself 23:41 bleak_fire_ what's the yaw bug? 23:41 diemartin dunno :P some users report seeing signs' text facing the wrong direction 23:42 bleak_fire_ it only happened after this upgrade 23:42 bleak_fire_ not too much of a pain to redo everything for myself 23:42 bleak_fire_ but can it be fixed? 23:42 bleak_fire_ or is it a "bug" 23:44 diemartin it can be fixed, but as I couldn't reproduce it, don't really know where to look 23:44 bleak_fire_ ok 23:44 bleak_fire_ i always do lots of signs and travelnets i'm big on that 23:44 diemartin but now that you mention it, my guess is there was some changes in the placement code that rotated the signs but not the text accordingly 23:45 diemartin sooo... expect something soon(tm) 23:48 bleak_fire_ hmm having a tough time reinstalling some of the sideways signs 23:48 bleak_fire_ if one is behind anothr 23:49 bleak_fire_ it's just doing the normal "on the building" way 23:49 bleak_fire_ though on poles it works 23:50 diemartin I don't quite follow. could you show me a screenshot? 23:53 bleak_fire_ it's going across poles but not out from sides of buildings anymore 23:54 bleak_fire_ connect to the server i noticed you and see 23:54 diemartin this will take a while 23:55 bleak_fire_ for you to join you mean? 23:56 bleak_fire_ i'm afraid to do a clearobjects, if i lose it all or not 23:56 diemartin for now, don't 23:57 diemartin it's kaeza in there, btw