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IRC log for #minetest, 2015-10-09

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04:56 MinetestBot [git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mapgen: Use mapgen-specific names for constants in headers 7504cdc http://git.io/vCtkB (2015-10-09T05:51:47+01:00)
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08:54 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Curious Events Day! ūüėÉ
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09:05 Krock Let's start a pie eating event
09:06 waressearcher2 is there minetest day ?
09:07 Krock is there a microsoft day?
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09:23 waressearcher2 Krock: 1 january 2000 was microsoft day, have you forgotten ?
09:24 Krock waressearcher2, I didn't know what "years" are on that day
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09:58 kaeza Mornings
10:01 Krock hi kaeza
10:01 VanessaE hi
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10:02 Telesight Hello all, There is a setting: strict_protocol_version_checking = true ; is this really  neccesary to set this to true? 0.4.12 clients are not able to connect with this setting ...
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10:02 Krock set it to false and everybody's happy
10:03 Telesight Krock: No consequences ?
10:03 kaeza older clients may have some issues or missing features
10:03 Krock Telesight, if you ignore all outdated android versions what were blocked before then no
10:05 Telesight Ok if there are no real issues when setting to False, I will do that (makes some people happy ;-)
10:06 VanessaE doesn't it already default to false?
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10:07 Telesight Yes but I set it to True, So I will revert ...
10:08 VanessaE it's a good way to shoo-off any of those old-ass clients, too, like Krock said :)
10:08 Telesight Android will not make it anyway ;-)
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11:30 Krock 'DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf' is used when the characters can't be found in the other font files, right?
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12:10 * Krock tests 4D fractals
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12:23 comradmax post pics
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13:24 eye_mine hello everyone,I need help.I will register to form.minetest.net,and need answer an question:This question is to prevent usage by _ _ _s. (hint: rhymes with bats):,how to answer?
13:25 eye_mine I never know this rhymes.
13:25 Krock bots?
13:25 Krock dunno if it rhymes.. just try it
13:25 Krock Also, it's forum.minetest.net, not form.
13:28 eye_mine thank you ,I try it.
13:32 comradmax i have a forest fire, each frame is taken at 24hr intervals: http://tiny.cc/forestfire1
13:33 VanessaE wait, what the hell mapgenm is THAT?
13:33 VanessaE -m
13:33 VanessaE (it's interesting!)
13:34 comradmax it's v7, and whatever ethereal may be doing
13:35 comradmax (sorry for shaky cam, it's hard to aim the sattelites)
13:36 VanessaE ah
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13:37 VanessaE I'd love to start a new server based on mgv7 and paramat's biomes (paragen v7?) at some point.
13:37 Krock comradmax, that's amazing! I'd love to see this on multiplayer servers too
13:38 comradmax this is on a multiplayer server, name is Ultimate Freedom, check bottom of the list:)
13:38 Krock oh.
13:39 comradmax i run it from my computer
13:40 comradmax at 1st i thought i had an error with my colors.txt, and those trees just looked red
13:40 comradmax but no, that's fire
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13:49 Teckla Does Minetest server keep updating the world (such as the spread of fire) even when nobody is playing?
13:50 VanessaE sometimes
13:50 Krock as long the mapblocks are active, yes
13:50 VanessaE if you have world anchors active
13:50 VanessaE ("force loaded" blocks)
13:50 Krock you can forceload them, otherwise they get unloaded after a specified amount of time
13:50 Teckla That's interesting; thanks
13:50 comradmax i dont remember changing those settings
13:51 comradmax active_block_range = 1, is this related to what's on fire?
13:56 comradmax well, if i didnt change anything, then that fire is probably only spreading when there are players in its area
13:58 Krock with active_block_range you define how wide the fire is spread and with server_unload_unused_data_timeout you can define how long the fire is spear after the last player left the area
13:58 comradmax ah
13:58 Krock s/spear/spread
13:58 comradmax server_unload_unused_data_timeout = 5000
13:59 Krock players will time out after
13:59 Krock !c 5000 / 60
13:59 MinetestBot 83.33333333333333
13:59 Krock minutes
14:00 comradmax players do timeout often
14:00 comradmax regularly, that's the msg i see in the logs all the time
14:01 comradmax why does this cause players to time out? what's the server doing in this unload?
14:01 comradmax unload from ram?
14:01 Krock I'm not sure about this but I guess that setting also defines when a player timed out
14:02 comradmax hmm
14:02 Krock nvm.. just try it
14:03 Krock using julia 4D fractal http://imgur.com/LEJHjsb
14:04 comradmax looks like water columns and leaves inside the water
14:04 comradmax how is that possible:)
14:04 comradmax oh, because you are UNDER water
14:04 Krock hehe. lowered the water level and see some tres half standing in the water while others are on solid ground
14:04 Krock *trees
14:04 comradmax trees make oxygen, so all this makes sense
14:05 Krock but they need CO2 to make O2
14:05 comradmax is there any solution for those fireflies though?
14:06 comradmax the little white dots between the blocks sometimes
14:06 comradmax they're still there is AA=8x
14:06 comradmax is/with
14:07 Calinou screenshot?
14:07 Calinou I barely notice those with fsaa = 4
14:07 comradmax hmm
14:08 comradmax i'll try to take one at 8x when it's day
14:09 Calinou 8x is barely useful
14:09 Calinou only useful for screenshots really, for gaming 4x is enough
14:12 comradmax i cant get any fireflies at the moment even at 0, so idk what i was talking about...
14:14 comradmax but here is some of that fire from the ground: http://www.pasteall.org/pic/93952
14:20 Krock you can disable fire anytime by setting disable_fire = true
14:27 comradmax we dont need no water
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16:11 Glorfindel how do you make the client display brighter? stuff is nearly pitch black on this laptop yet on my desktop everything is plenty bright
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16:16 rubenwardy gamma
16:16 rubenwardy search in minetest.conf.example
16:16 rubenwardy I can't atm
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16:22 Glorfindel ok, thanks.
16:22 Glorfindel what should I set it to?
16:23 Glorfindel higher or lower?
16:23 Glorfindel oh the example should say right?
16:32 Glorfindel I can't find the gamma setting
16:35 Krock Ctrl+F helps
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16:42 Glorfindel yeah I searched for 'gamma' but no results were found
16:45 comradmax Glorfindel: https://github.com/minetest/minetes‚Äčt/blob/master/minetest.conf.example
16:45 Glorfindel ah, I was looking at the one on the wiki
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17:06 Glorfindel much better! thanks comradmax, Krock, and rubenwardy
17:06 Krock !next
17:06 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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17:10 TheWild glitching Minetest. Anyone considered areas mod vs sticky piston?
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17:18 Krock TheWild, I thought that mesecons checks for protected areas too
17:25 Calinou display_gamma = 1.0
17:25 Calinou Glorfindel, ^
17:25 Calinou this is the brightest you can get without modifying client or shaders
17:26 Krock mhm I'm still using 1.1 here
17:26 Krock *lowers*
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17:29 TheWild Krock: nope, it seems it does not check. I just tested it on some server and stole a chair from someone (no worries, I put it back). Well, now I can remove rival's shop advertisement ;D
17:29 TheWild btw, falling sand also does not check for protections
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17:31 Krock oh yeah every troll uses falling nodes :3
17:31 Krock what a bad behavior to fall down..
17:31 TheWild ;D
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17:58 Glorfindel Calinou, thanks, I changed it to 1.4 as I wasn't sure how bright 1 would be
18:01 Krock 1 would overheat your monitor
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18:11 TheWild technic mod - seems interesting but I can't find any instructions
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18:40 Glorfindel Krock, why did you have [off] at the start of your one message? keeps it off the public log?
18:40 Krock Glorfindel, why do you ask when you already know the correct answer? o.0
18:41 Glorfindel that was just my guess :P
18:41 Glorfindel I asked to make sure
18:41 Krock it was a good guess
18:42 Krock TheWild, there's a great video platform called Youtube.
18:42 Krock I'm sure you'll find your instructions there ;)
18:42 Krock !next
18:42 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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19:12 nm0i Would be redirecting stdout to syslog be sufficient on minetestserver for logging?
19:16 TheWild Krock: yes, I already landed on youtube but I expected something black on white
19:17 Krock TheWild, oh okay. Which capter do you want to know? ^^
19:18 TheWild many thanks for help, but I just figured out few machines on my own and I'm doing progress
19:18 Krock okay :)
19:20 TheWild node detector, node breaker, lava, water, chest, mesecon and I have automated cobble generator
19:21 Krock Oh god. Are you getting too less in your mining trips???
19:24 TheWild Sometimes, but right now I just have fun that my machine works. http://pasteboard.co/1fN7KMer.jpg
19:25 TheWild what other interesting stuff can be built
19:27 TheWild in creative mode the inventory frequently gets messed up, wouldn't /clearinventory be useful in such case?
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20:17 sfan5 nm0i: minetestserver is pretty verbose, not sure whether you'd want every single digging of a node in the syslog
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20:20 nm0i That's not what I've asked...
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20:23 nm0i I don't see problem, syslog-ng filter system can handle "extra" info if one does not like it (I like it, rotating logs to backup storage helps too).
20:23 nm0i Question is, is everything send to stdout identical to --logfile ?
20:32 Krock nm0i, no. verbose isn't visible in stdout, but in the logfile
20:34 *¬†Krock remembers https://forum.minetest.net/vi‚Äčewtopic.php?f=10&t=10576 again
20:39 nm0i Krock: Thanks
20:39 nm0i I hoped I'd be able to avoid making fifo-pipes
20:40 Krock !next
20:40 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
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20:43 nm0i !hug
20:43 shadowzone hey, xenkey
20:43 shadowzone not xenkey
20:43 nm0i Pff, no free hugs, bad bot.
20:46 Calinou hi shadowzone
20:46 shadowzone hi, Calinou
20:46 shadowzone !hug
20:51 Krock <3 MinetestBot
20:51 MinetestBot <3 Krock
20:52 Krock She knows my love.
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23:41 Danfun64 Is there a way to get more info in debug.txt?
23:42 VanessaE turn up your logging level
23:42 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/b‚Äčlob/master/minetest.conf.example#L614
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