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| 00:03 |
est31 |
there is linux without gnu |
| 00:03 |
est31 |
just think of android |
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| 00:07 |
paramat |
naw lava is shallow in minetest, only -250 in mgv5/v7 and even higher in mgv6 |
| 00:10 |
greeter |
ok, so i was no deeper than -250 |
| 00:15 |
paramat |
probably deeper, depending on your route you might be very deep before finding your first lava cave |
| 00:17 |
greeter |
ah i see |
| 00:17 |
greeter |
i tried pulling up the debugging info, but i wasn't sure how to get the altitude from that, assuming it's even possible |
| 00:17 |
greeter |
ah, i think i see it now |
| 00:20 |
waressearcher2 |
is there benevolent dictator for minetest ? |
| 00:20 |
waressearcher2 |
like, how makes the last decision whether include feature or not ? |
| 00:21 |
paramat |
co-ords are (x, y, z) y is altitude |
| 00:22 |
paramat |
one of c55's roles is 'conflict resolution' though it rarely comes to that |
| 00:23 |
greeter |
i'm cutting down trees like there's no tomorrow, i feel like i'm on an episode of gumby or something |
| 00:24 |
est31 |
honestly there isnt much happening since c55 left |
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waressearcher2 |
torvalds also hasn't written code for linux kernel for years, but he still the main authority of what will be included in kernel |
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est31 |
minetest doesnt follow this style currently |
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est31 |
but c55 holds all the keys, so he has the last say ultimately |
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est31 |
its not though that he often makes use of this privilege. I don't know how its for the kernel, but I know that only torvald's copy is official, and that he pushes every single commit himself, even if he trusts his subsystem maintainers, and doesnt read every single line of code |
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est31 |
that isnt the case for minetest, here the coredevs have direct push access |
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bleak_fire_ |
hi |
| 02:43 |
bleak_fire_ |
i just set up a new server |
| 02:44 |
bleak_fire_ |
but bfeore i announce anything on the forum |
| 02:44 |
bleak_fire_ |
like i did last time |
| 02:44 |
bleak_fire_ |
wanted to know if others can help test it with me |
| 02:44 |
bleak_fire_ |
since i fixed what i did wrong last time |
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bleak_fire_ |
it's called "THE TERRARIUM" |
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Danfun64 |
Is there a way to spawn in an ordinary forest when starting an ethereal server for the first time? |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
set your static spawnpoint accordingly. |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
i.e. find a suitable forest and set the spawnpoint there |
| 02:50 |
Danfun64 |
how do you set a static spawnpoint? |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
in your minetest.conf, static_spawnpoint = -307,28,-426 |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
or whatever coords you want |
| 02:51 |
Danfun64 |
:P |
| 02:51 |
Danfun64 |
thank you |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
(on your server that is) |
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Danfun64 |
Ethereal can be beautiful |
| 02:57 |
Danfun64 |
but it gives really bad initial spawn points |
| 02:58 |
Danfun64 |
one time I created an ethereal server and the initial spawn point was a lava filled area with no escape |
| 02:58 |
est31 |
its more the engine'S fault than ethereal's |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
wow heh |
| 02:58 |
est31 |
its a lua mapgen, and there spawn point selection doesnt work |
| 02:59 |
Danfun64 |
so...what do you suggest I do, est31? Get rid of ethereal and similar mods? |
| 02:59 |
est31 |
no, you can set a static spawn point |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
do what I said.... |
| 03:00 |
VanessaE |
one caveat: |
| 03:00 |
VanessaE |
make sure 0,0,0 is a safe place to land as well |
| 03:00 |
bleak_fire_ |
is anyone trying to connect to my server and disconnecting? |
| 03:00 |
bleak_fire_ |
because everyone seems to be |
| 03:00 |
bleak_fire_ |
but is anyone here? |
| 03:00 |
VanessaE |
bleak_fire_: if you have lots of mods, you'll be getting lots of client crashes |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
from tablet/phone users etc |
| 03:01 |
est31 |
VanessaE, ? |
| 03:01 |
bleak_fire_ |
actually that was one of the issues i had last time, some tablets and phone users were crashing |
| 03:01 |
est31 |
too much nodedef RAM? |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
minetest uses around 400 MB of RAM to connect to my Basic server, for example. |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
on the client. |
| 03:01 |
bleak_fire_ |
honestly i cant understand how you can't play minetest with something that small but |
| 03:01 |
est31 |
ah yes that |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
and up to around 1.3 GB after you've been online for a while |
| 03:02 |
bleak_fire_ |
seems to be taking 1.2 GB for me |
| 03:02 |
nm0i |
Cool, I just need to add lots of mods to make tablet people gone then! |
| 03:03 |
Danfun64 |
... |
| 03:03 |
VanessaE |
android clients basically act stupid about the RAM usage - just outright crash instead of trimming down their usage (like throwing away excess mapblock data, or employing texture compression) |
| 03:03 |
Danfun64 |
android minetest needs more love |
| 03:03 |
VanessaE |
nm0i: well yeah pretty much :) |
| 03:03 |
VanessaE |
or just run Dreambuilder :D |
| 03:04 |
VanessaE |
that'll get rid of all but the highest-end tablets :P |
| 03:05 |
nm0i |
Sadly more than 1800 nodes defined will make server choke. =\ |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
1800? that's nothing. |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
Dreambuilder has over 16'000 :P |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
I would guess my Basic server has around 2000 odd. |
| 03:05 |
bleak_fire_ |
btw what is server_dedicated = false that was later added to my minetest.conf? |
| 03:05 |
* nm0i |
sighs |
| 03:06 |
nm0i |
I wonder how I got that regression... |
| 03:06 |
bleak_fire_ |
my server i think wound up with around 1400 inventory |
| 03:06 |
Danfun64 |
What is this "lite mode" for unified inventory? |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
I'm counting all the stuff that's hidden from the inv (i.e. stuff provided only by moreblocks table saw) |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
Danfun64: smaller inventory formspec, fewer features |
| 03:07 |
bleak_fire_ |
wait have to reboot server before anyone tries to join |
| 03:07 |
est31 |
unified inventory is usually very bload |
| 03:07 |
est31 |
bloated* |
| 03:07 |
bleak_fire_ |
better idea to put in the AFK i turned it off |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
meant for servers that cater to tablet/phone users |
| 03:07 |
est31 |
lite mode is a good compromise |
| 03:07 |
Danfun64 |
How do you enable lite mode? |
| 03:08 |
VanessaE |
unified_inventory_lite = true |
| 03:08 |
VanessaE |
and you can give individual users the\ full-mode by giving them the priv "ui_full" |
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bleak_fire_ |
is unified_inventory_lite the smaller menu with the smaller grid on the left side? |
| 03:08 |
VanessaE |
bleak_fire_: yes. |
| 03:09 |
Danfun64 |
What mod combination do you recommends for survival (with mobs and stuff) but caters to low-end/tablet users? |
| 03:09 |
Danfun64 |
Not too boring, but not too heavy |
| 03:09 |
VanessaE |
Danfun64: Nostalgia game :P |
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VanessaE |
(seriously though, don't try. "light enough for a phone" and "not too boring" generally don't go well together) |
| 03:10 |
bleak_fire_ |
it's back up |
| 03:10 |
nm0i |
Just wondering, should 2 core 2.5GHz Intel Xeon be sufficient for ">1800" blocks? |
| 03:10 |
nm0i |
And, say, 2-5 players. |
| 03:10 |
VanessaE |
more than sufficient if you have enough RAM |
| 03:11 |
Danfun64 |
"don't try". xD |
| 03:11 |
bleak_fire_ |
is the fact that it's creative mode make it harder for mobile users? everyone having 99 of everything |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
bleak_fire_: nope. |
| 03:11 |
Danfun64 |
is mt_nostalgia *seriously* the best compromise? |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
Danfun64: that was a joke :) |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
Nostalgia is barely more than development "minimal" game |
| 03:11 |
Danfun64 |
xD |
| 03:11 |
VanessaE |
maybe just a plain vanilla minetest_game |
| 03:12 |
Danfun64 |
no. |
| 03:12 |
VanessaE |
along with some server tools (maptools, gloopblocks, areas mod, worldedit, etc) |
| 03:13 |
Danfun64 |
plain minetest_game is boring. |
| 03:13 |
Danfun64 |
no offense |
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VanessaE |
none taken. most of us agree :P |
| 03:14 |
Danfun64 |
still can't think of a decent compromise? |
| 03:14 |
wilkgr |
Just wondering, why do I still get particles (on MegaF´s server) even though I have them disabed in settings? |
| 03:14 |
nolsen_ |
I wonder if there's a mod to prevent tor/proxies/abused IPs accessing your server. |
| 03:15 |
nolsen_ |
Because anyone could get Tor and abuse the servers. |
| 03:15 |
nm0i |
Use any BOPM |
| 03:15 |
est31 |
tor doesnt work |
| 03:15 |
nolsen_ |
BOPM is IRC only. |
| 03:15 |
nm0i |
And tor is udp-free |
| 03:15 |
nm0i |
Not really. |
| 03:15 |
est31 |
bc tor is tcp |
| 03:15 |
est31 |
and minetest is udp |
| 03:15 |
nolsen_ |
est31: Well, proxys still work. |
| 03:15 |
nolsen_ |
proxies* |
| 03:15 |
nolsen_ |
and VPNs |
| 03:15 |
est31 |
there is no way to defend from them |
| 03:16 |
est31 |
tor has quite public lists yes |
| 03:16 |
est31 |
but VPNs? |
| 03:16 |
nolsen_ |
an API to a Black list. |
| 03:16 |
nolsen_ |
Blacklist* |
| 03:16 |
nolsen_ |
Just ban the blacklisted IPs from a database. |
| 03:16 |
Danfun64 |
I'll take that as a "no |
| 03:16 |
nolsen_ |
like EFNet database, or DroneBL. |
| 03:16 |
Danfun64 |
" :P |
| 03:17 |
nm0i |
Blitzet BOPM had hooks for any protocol, IIRC. |
| 03:18 |
nolsen_ |
I don't think it will work for minetest. |
| 03:19 |
nm0i |
I don't see what prevents you from parsing minetets's log. |
| 03:19 |
nm0i |
And feeding IPs into BOPM. |
| 03:19 |
nolsen_ |
But how will it ban? |
| 03:20 |
nm0i |
iptables -j DROP |
| 03:20 |
nolsen_ |
iptables is linux-only |
| 03:20 |
nm0i |
Sooo. |
| 03:20 |
nolsen_ |
What if someone was running a server on windows? |
| 03:21 |
nolsen_ |
or OS X? |
| 03:21 |
nolsen_ |
That wouldn't work. |
| 03:22 |
nm0i |
If you want embedded into minetest solution, it is there. You just need to write it. |
| 03:24 |
bleak_fire_ |
VanessaE: did you say before that it's a good idea to set up a usable 0,0,0? (covering the ocean there in rocks now) is that just an arbitrary number to teleport to or is there a significance |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
it's the center of the world |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
sometimes the server will ignore static_spawnpoint and teleport users to then on sign-in |
| 03:26 |
VanessaE |
I don't know why it happens, so best to just make sure a user can safely land there and teleport away to somewhere more sane (like where your regular spawn is) via travelnet or some other teleporter mod |
| 03:26 |
bleak_fire_ |
cool |
| 03:26 |
bleak_fire_ |
i love travelnets |
| 03:27 |
bleak_fire_ |
pizza server is covered with my travelnets :) |
| 03:29 |
wilkgr |
I´m back to using 0.4.11. |
| 03:30 |
wilkgr |
Basically the only one that doesn´t crash... |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
ew |
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Danfun64 |
last chance for a good answer for my question... |
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Danfun64 |
...thanks anyway... |
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waressearcher2 |
!g · |
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MinetestBot |
waressearcher2: .g what? |
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RichardTheTurd |
I see that MinetestBot finally shut up |
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bleak_fire_ |
everyone seems to be timing out. anyone wanna help me out please? |
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bleak_fire_ |
i dont know what they're using |
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swift110-phone |
Hmm |
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bleak_fire_ |
but it would be great if a bunch of people here could try and connect |
| 04:31 |
bleak_fire_ |
THE TERRARIUM |
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bleak_fire_ |
as for memory use, i've been on for a half hour at least and it's only 1.3 gb according to procexp |
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bleak_fire_ |
nobody's here? |
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bleak_fire_ |
well i just logged off i have to go for a bit so |
| 04:56 |
bleak_fire_ |
please try and log on and let me know here |
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bleak_fire_ |
i can read debug.txt when i get back |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Mapgen: Add 4D fractal mapgen e62eac4 http://git.io/vc7HZ (2015-10-06T06:43:04+01:00) |
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bleak_fire_ |
i added unified_inventory_lite = true to my minetest.conf and it's still using the regular one |
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swift110-phone |
Hmm |
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bleak_fire_ |
i'm going to bed now, goodnight |
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Krock |
When you fold an A4 paper 50 times you would reach the sun |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Mad Hatter Day! 😃 |
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Krock |
moin |
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Krock |
Oh my god. There are three dead pixels. Rest in peace. |
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Krock |
They look so blood-red, I wonder what happened with them |
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JamesTait |
I remember a program that claimed to be able to unstick stuck pixels. Trying to recall the name. |
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Krock |
let's see. there's a program called undeadpixel |
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JamesTait |
I think it was this one: http://www.jscreenfix.com/ |
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ice10001 |
Hello |
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Krock |
Hi |
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Fixer |
hi |
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nrzkt |
hi |
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Krock |
October21, you're 15 days too early |
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nrzkt |
Krock => [] |
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Krock |
DOn't move me into that tiny box |
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October21 |
krock, u are right :) |
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Calinou |
https://github.com/SirCmpwn/TrueCraft/issues/45 |
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Calinou |
> I have pulled in some MineTest sound effects. |
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Calinou |
:) |
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sfan5 |
Calinou: >I don't know how to capitalize "Minetest" correctly |
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sfan5 |
/s |
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comradmax |
tried the 'fractal', does this look diff ? http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=93837 |
| 12:40 |
comradmax |
http://www.pasteall.org/pic/93836 |
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Krock |
I think it would be better to stretch the fractal mapgen along the X and Z axis to make it flatter |
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comradmax |
the main diff i think i see are the big drops under water |
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comradmax |
it's less flat than v7 |
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comradmax |
ubuntu is asking for a reboot for the 2nd time in a few weeks |
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Calinou |
kernel updates need a reboot, pretty much |
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Krock |
Lol. What's going with that TrueCraft game? Crashes whenever the client gets started |
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Calinou |
it's Mono... |
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Krock |
Yeah but I wonder why they didn't include a .pdb file to debug the stuff |
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greeter |
you know, this game is much more fun with sound |
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comradmax |
did you turn on your speakers? |
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greeter |
no, i installed them |
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Krock |
apt-get install speakers |
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comradmax |
gnu-speakers |
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greeter |
not all that far from the truth lol |
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greeter |
being new to the game i was wondering. is it just me or is gold pretty useless? |
| 13:21 |
Krock |
economy |
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greeter |
economy? |
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greeter |
so people trade it in multiplayer games? |
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Krock |
It's supposed to be a currency IMO |
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greeter |
ah ok... i've been building with it lol. i hope to eventually turn my whole house into gold |
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Krock |
heh. Steel is much more solid |
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greeter |
indeed, but i have a tendency of getting lost and gold is more noticeable |
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Krock |
/sethome and /home helps ;) |
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greeter |
oh? i'll have to look into those commands |
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Krock |
The mod unified_inventory also contains such a home function |
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greeter |
wish i had known that before going -100 blocks down in this mine lol. oh well, i'll know for the next time |
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Krock |
Be happy, you were able to enjoy the real conditions without teleportation |
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greeter |
true. i've never teleported in this game |
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Krock |
Protip: Use ladders in a 1x2 shaft when you mine vertical down, so you can let you fall and stop using the ladders |
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greeter |
hmm |
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Krock |
Because ores get more common in the depth |
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greeter |
i've noticed that. deep enough down, i see ores that never appear near the surface |
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comradmax |
!wik ores |
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MinetestBot |
"This page is an overview page over the ores found in Minetest." - http://wiki.minetest.net/ores |
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greeter |
i'll read it now |
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greeter |
yesterday though i had a blast digging down as far as i could go, in as straight a line as possible |
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comradmax |
you can kill yourself like that |
| 13:30 |
greeter |
only if you play with damage on :-P |
| 13:30 |
comradmax |
true |
| 13:31 |
greeter |
it's a curse getting back though. one mis-step and all of a sudden you've fallen back down 30 nodes |
| 13:34 |
comradmax |
just keep going down, what do you need on the surface anyway? find a cave and build your new house there :) |
| 13:34 |
Krock |
It's boring with damage off, where's the adrenalin when lava is flowing to you? |
| 13:35 |
greeter |
i might enable damage later, but i don't think i'm ready to survive in this game yet lol |
| 13:35 |
comradmax |
half of the fun for me is looking for my bones |
| 13:36 |
greeter |
after years of playing nethack i gotta get the story on this lol |
| 13:37 |
comradmax |
if you have crystal armor pieces, and die, you spend a lot of time looking for those bones |
| 13:38 |
greeter |
i bet |
| 13:38 |
comradmax |
i hear that it's possible to walk on lava with a full set of crystal |
| 13:40 |
greeter |
nice |
| 13:40 |
greeter |
ok in the ores section, it says that mese blocks start to occur at a depth of -1024. how does someone get that deep? i've never been past -350, i always run into lava |
| 13:40 |
comradmax |
avoid lava and keep going |
| 13:41 |
greeter |
hmm, sounds easier said than done lol |
| 13:41 |
Teckla |
I always liked Angband better than NetHack |
| 13:41 |
Krock |
greeter, I got down to -530m within ~4 days |
| 13:41 |
greeter |
i tried angband but i couldn't get into it. i suspect it's one of those things, like of like the great debate between vi and emacs or gnome and kde lol |
| 13:42 |
Krock |
use water buckets and dig the obsidian to continue mining |
| 13:42 |
Teckla |
I played a lot of Hack back in the day, perhaps I got burned out on it before it morphed into NetHack |
| 13:42 |
Teckla |
The myriad ways to insta-die in NetHack always bothered me |
| 13:42 |
greeter |
ah i see. maybe so |
| 13:42 |
greeter |
ha, some of those are are a real curse for sure |
| 13:43 |
greeter |
hmm, i wonder if the obsidian would make better windows |
| 13:43 |
Krock |
it does ;) |
| 13:44 |
MegafRemote |
greeter: What server you usually play? |
| 13:44 |
greeter |
i'm brand new to the game, just started yesterday, so i've just been playing locally |
| 13:45 |
MegafRemote |
I see, welcome to minetest then |
| 13:45 |
greeter |
thank you kindly MegafRemote |
| 13:46 |
MegafRemote |
greeter: so, you can go very deep, on my server there are people that built their homes at -2000+ deep |
| 13:46 |
greeter |
nice |
| 13:46 |
greeter |
i knew it must be possible, i just didn't know how |
| 13:46 |
MegafRemote |
just keep diging, not in a straight line |
| 13:46 |
comradmax |
use tnt to mine faster |
| 13:46 |
MegafRemote |
make a stair like dig for example |
| 13:47 |
Krock |
MegafRemote, and how do those guys farm trees? |
| 13:47 |
greeter |
i'll try that for my next mine. this one i'm still not totally confident that i'll be able to find my way back to the top lol |
| 13:47 |
Krock |
or any other things? |
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Megaf_ |
Krock: we have automated farms underground |
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Megaf_ |
I built an automated tree farm that plants the sapling, get he tree, craft items and plant the sapling again |
| 13:48 |
Megaf_ |
I built an automated tree farm that plants the sapling,(wait till it grows) get he tree, craft items and plant the sapling again |
| 13:49 |
Megaf_ |
greeter: well, feel free to go to my server, it takes for ever to login there, but once you manage to login there are plenty of stuff to do, and I'd be happy to give you a tour. No need to keep playing there afterwards, dont worry :) |
| 13:49 |
Megaf_ |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf_: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 0/11, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.13-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms |
| 13:50 |
greeter |
hmm. i'll have to give that some consideration for sure. i'm not sure if my internet connection could even maintain a connection to a remote server right now |
| 13:50 |
Megaf_ |
greeter: I playin using a slow 3G myself |
| 13:50 |
greeter |
well my internet speed is about average for canada, but i usually have around a 10s ping time |
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comradmax |
MegafRemote: no offense, but sounds like the tree farming is something you'd rather not do. if you automate how you edscribed, then it's basically a tree, and a box next to it, and once in a while the box gets an item to appear |
| 13:52 |
Megaf_ |
comradmax: I don't get it |
| 13:52 |
Teckla |
I built a home underground and brought some dirt down and planted trees |
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Teckla |
They grow, I harvest the wood, etc. :) |
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zat |
Teckla: repeat indefinitely and become a millionaire!! |
| 14:01 |
comradmax |
a mesenaire |
| 14:02 |
Krock |
^^ |
| 14:02 |
zat |
resourcenaire, what's the currency in Minetest? |
| 14:02 |
zat |
minecoin? |
| 14:02 |
comradmax |
no coins in vanilla |
| 14:02 |
zat |
...testcoin |
| 14:03 |
zat |
...mesecoin |
| 14:03 |
zat |
so, since there is no more MSN, what should mese become? |
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* comradmax |
hates getting kicked in the testecoins |
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Krock |
zat, if you install 'bitchange' you get minecoins |
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zat |
Krock: for real? wat, I was just joking. |
| 14:04 |
Krock |
I know but the funnything is they actually exist |
| 14:04 |
Krock |
there's also "Minegeld" (where geld = money) |
| 14:04 |
zat |
strange name |
| 14:04 |
comradmax |
!btc minecoin |
| 14:04 |
MinetestBot |
comradmax: Unknown currency. Supported currencies: BRL, KRW, SGD, DKK, EUR, SEK, HKD, TWD, GBP, JPY, CLP, CNY, NZD, RUB, ISK, CHF, THB, USD, PLN, CAD, AUD |
| 14:04 |
Krock |
It's Denglish |
| 14:05 |
zat |
CLP eh? |
| 14:05 |
zat |
!btc clp |
| 14:05 |
MinetestBot |
1 BTC = 167763.6900 $ |
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Krock |
!btc CHF |
| 14:05 |
MinetestBot |
1 BTC = 236.4800 CHF |
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zat |
watafac, BTCs are expensive |
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comradmax |
!btc usd |
| 14:05 |
MinetestBot |
1 BTC = 243.4000 $ |
| 14:06 |
Krock |
!c 236.48 / 243.4 |
| 14:06 |
MinetestBot |
0.9715694330320459 |
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sfan5 |
Krock: ping |
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comradmax |
diamonds are the closest MT has to a real currency. obviously if you mod up the ass, then anything is possible |
| 14:09 |
Krock |
sfan5: pong |
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sfan5 |
Krock: if i have a rear fan in a computer, do i point it with the logo outwards or inwards? |
| 14:10 |
Krock |
Depends how the rotors are mounted |
| 14:10 |
sfan5 |
... |
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comradmax |
there are airflow arrows on fans |
| 14:11 |
comradmax |
airflow and rotation arrows |
| 14:12 |
Krock |
My fans run clockwise -> air blows to where the logo is |
| 14:12 |
Krock |
^ sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
there is an arrow pointing up and one pointing left |
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sfan5 |
Krock: http://cdn-reichelt.de/bilder/web/xxl_ws/E910/COO-XPF120.R_01.png it looks like this |
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Krock |
ah I see. So it will blow to the "backside" of that image |
| 14:14 |
comradmax |
the arrow is pointing in the direction that air is moved |
| 14:14 |
sfan5 |
so i put the logo inwards because i want to get the air out? |
| 14:14 |
comradmax |
yes |
| 14:14 |
comradmax |
correct on both |
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greeter |
ooh, with the /sethome command i never have to worry about being lost again :-D |
| 14:14 |
Krock |
I thought the logo was on the other side, with all technical data |
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comradmax |
that's the 'sticker' |
| 14:15 |
Krock |
Ah okay |
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sfan5 |
thanks for the help |
| 14:15 |
sfan5 |
i should really know this myself but uhh.. |
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comradmax |
im surprised ppl dont konw about arows more |
| 14:16 |
Krock |
Sunno which arrows you mean |
| 14:16 |
Krock |
*Dunno |
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comradmax |
btw, i've see fans that flow opposite what you'd expect, only way to know was to look at the arrow or turn on and try |
| 14:17 |
Krock |
Rnning them in the opposide would be much more inefficient since the air wouldn't get pused correctly |
| 14:18 |
Krock |
Typo monster is doing its work again... |
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comradmax |
http://www.bcot1.com/IMG_1271b.jpg |
| 14:18 |
comradmax |
example |
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Krock |
uhm *takes a fan* actually, haven't noticed them before |
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sfan5 |
but |
| 14:19 |
sfan5 |
wtf is that left arrow supposed to mean? |
| 14:19 |
comradmax |
rotation |
| 14:19 |
sfan5 |
ohhhh |
| 14:19 |
sfan5 |
im dumb |
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* Krock |
writes it on a sign and sticks it on sfan5's head |
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Krock |
>:) |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
lol |
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comradmax |
sfan5: if you ever tried to stop a cpu fan with your finger, you start to appreciate direction arrows |
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comradmax |
DO NOT TRY |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
sfan5: It might help in making you not look so dumb if you didn't cuss. |
| 14:21 |
Krock |
It's easy to stop it... fromt he backside |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
It is easy to stop a CPU fan... you just apply pressure in the center, where there is a flat area. |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I don't recommend it, for I'm thinking it is bad to do so. |
| 14:23 |
JohnnyComeL8ly |
*bad for the fan, I mean. |
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Krock |
JohnnyComeL8ly, just disconnect it from the power source <.< |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
That works... sorta: the BIOS will start having conniption fits, depending on the settings. |
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sfan5 |
Krock: :< |
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comradmax |
what is fun about playing MT? |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
With adequate mods... everything! |
| 14:52 |
comradmax |
i have lots of reservations about any mod. you never konw if the developers inadvertently slowed somethign down |
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comradmax |
but that's not all |
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comradmax |
MT looks like butt. so the game itself must be super fun to make up for the visuals |
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comradmax |
so what i do in the game should be the reward |
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comradmax |
so to answer my own open question: the fun part is crafting/mining your way to some goal, like crystal armor, or gold block house |
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comradmax |
wondering what others would say, thanx JohnnyComeL8ly for yours |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
comradmax, you are welcome. Isn't a butt beautiful though? |
| 14:57 |
comradmax |
yes, it's a brazillian butt |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Unless it is fresh out of a diaper. |
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comradmax |
18+ butts |
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comradmax |
!g 18+ butts |
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MinetestBot |
comradmax: http://menbulgesbuttssports.tumblr.com/ |
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comradmax |
im not even gonna click on that |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
Me neither! |
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comradmax |
when bush was pres, "Mr.President, in a terrorist attack earier today, 3 brazillian ppl were killed". Bush starts crying, then stops for a sec, raises his head and asks, "Wait, how many are in a brazillian?" |
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sfan5 |
ಠ_ಠ|
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sfan5 |
this is not what !g is for |
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Teckla |
comradmax: The pure act of creation is fun for many people |
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Teckla |
Mining for your resources gives an additional challenge and enjoyment at overcoming it |
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comradmax |
Teckla: yes, i can see that actually |
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comradmax |
the building aspect alone for some ppl that is |
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Teckla |
Although I would agree that vanilla Minetest is a little on the... uh... well, it could use some excitement :) |
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comradmax |
MT can be used in many ways, and reading online, that's the phylosophy i guess. toys and games are not the same tho |
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comradmax |
farming/animals/pets is another angle i'd say is out there |
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comradmax |
one that is boring for me |
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comradmax |
the pets that is, but planting your own gardens could be fun |
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Teckla |
comradmax: What about NPCs that attack you making it more of a challenge? |
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comradmax |
mby i havent seen the good ones, but games i've played with mobs, the combat is worse than no combat |
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comradmax |
or mby i just got killed to easily |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
lol |
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comradmax |
part of the fun if figuring out what is fun about it |
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JohnnyComeL8ly |
I agree with the "NPC's are lame as of yet" opinion. |
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Fixer |
hi, after much pain in the *** did some small neat MT testing here https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=13360 (if you are interested) |
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Krock |
Yes we know, threads are needed |
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Fixer |
Krock: added two amazing graphs that are even better |
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Fixer: I understand the problem much better now... (no joke). |
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Krock |
Fixer, is it actually mgv6 you record there or the mapblock loading time? |
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Fixer |
actual mapgen, make fresh map and start walking immid. generating new blocks |
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Fixer |
no wait time |
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Fixer |
new map -> benchmark + walk |
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Fixer |
no wait time |
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Fixer |
i will test some multiplayer gameplay now |
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Fixer |
for stutters |
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Fixer |
that will be block load in MP |
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Krock |
Just saying that it also takes time to draw new from database loaded mapblocks |
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Krock |
On multiplayer servers you will notice that |
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Fixer |
yeah |
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Fixer |
my work is to get some data |
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Fixer |
and devs should think of the rest (if they want) |
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ADFENO |
Hi, I'm trying to create an accound on the development wiki, to help translate articles from English to Brazilian Portuguese. During the account creation, I'm asked to "select just the cat photos in the box below", but I don't see any image. |
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est31 |
Calinou, ^ |
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est31 |
ADFENO, type "/msg Calinou <email>" with your email |
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est31 |
he'll create an account for you |
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ADFENO |
Ok.: D |
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ADFENO |
Done. :D |
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Fixer |
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Calinou |
back |
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